Big Muff

Everyone seems to offer their version of the Big Muff these days. Some close to the original models. Others with new features and variations. It can be a real challenge to choose the right model for your setup. In this feature, I’ll share my experience and thoughts on the models I’ve played over the years, with David Gilmour’s tones in mind.

At the time when David Gilmour joined Pink Floyd, in early 1968, guitarists had only a few pedals to choose from. Like Hendrix, David would also employ the Dallas Arbiter Fuzz Face. A germanium transistor model between 1968-1970 and later, from early 1971, the silicon transistor model.

David got his first Big Muff around 1975. The pedal was used on the recording of Animals and subsequently on evey Pink Floyd and solo album since then. Read more about David Gilmour and the Big Muff.

Fuzz or Big Muff?

Big Muffs are often referred to as fuzz and although that describes the tone, a traditional fuzz and Big Muff are soundwise and technically two different effects. While fuzz pedals are based on a very basic two-transistor circuit, producing an uncompressed and raw tone, the Big Muff has a more complex cuircuit and a much more balanced tone with rich harmonics and sustain. It is perhaps more accurate to place the Big Muff in a category between fuzz and the more modern distortion.

In terms of recreating David’s tones, you’ll be able to cover all the fuzz tones with a Big Muff – at least the bright and aggressive silicon tones from Obscured by Clouds, Live at Pompeii and Dark Side of the Moon. However, a Big Muff will be hard to tame properly for those warm overdrive tones of the germanium fuzz David used for the early post Syd era up to Meddle.

I don’t recommend using fuzz to replicate the Big Muff tones. Although a silicon Muff can do a fairly good Animals tone, neither the germanium nor the silicon works that well for Wall and later tones. A good tip is to feature at least one fuzz and one Big Muff on your pedal board for a versatile setup.

Big Muff on the pedal board

I recommend placing Big Muffs first in the line of gain pedals (after wah and compression). This will allow the pedal to dominate the chain and tone when you stack it with boosters or overdrives.

Although Big Muffs doesn’t react to buffers as severly as fuzz pedals, they do prefer to be placed as far away from them as possible, to maintain the character and harmonics of the pedal.

Big Muffs also needs an amp with enough compression and a bit of mid range, to sound smooth and warm. Fender Twins and other scooped and uncompressed amps, will make a Muff sound like a very agry bee. Read more about choosing the right pedals for your amp here.

Vintage Big Muffs VS modern clones

Before you start searching Ebay for a vintage Big Muff you should keep in mind that unless you are very aware of what you are about do to, you can end up getting very disappointed. In most cases, you’re better off with a clone. Back in the early 70s Electro Harmonix were quite inconsistent with their designs and components. Add forty years and heavy abuse from former owners and it’s quite obvious that these pedals won’t sound as they once did.

It’s also a well known fact among collectors that there’s very little difference between the so called “triangle” and “ram’s head” models other than the chassis (and placement of the knobs). Aged parts and the inconsistency between circuits, means that two seemingly identical pedals will sound quite different to each other and you might very well end up with a “ram’s head” that sounds like a “triangle” or vice versa.

Visit The Big Muff Pi Page for all there is to know about the classic Big Muff models.

All pedals listed below were tested on typical Gilmour inspired setups, including Stratocasters and Hiwatt and Fender amps. Pleae note that the pedals may sound and behave differently on your setup. All scores are purely subjective.

Triangle, Ram’s Head, US reissues and clones

The triangle and ram’s head era stretches from the late 60s to mid 70s. These are known by their bright and aggressive tone, very little mid range, fat lower end and singing sustain. Ideal for combining with boosters and overdrives but some pedals might be a bit of a challenge on smaller amps and setups. The mid era OP-amps and current US reissues has a slightly darker tone, more gain and are perhaps not that suited for Gilmour’s tones, although some of the new EHX variations and spin-offs sports new features for a more versatile tone.

Electro Harmonix “triangle” Big Muff 1970
The first Big Muff model is considered by many to be the most musical of all. The pedal has a smooth and warm tone with rich sustain, fat lower end and a crisp attack. Its mild gain makes it easy to tame and ideal in a combination with a booster/overdrive. The “triangle” covers all of David’s Muff tones but you might want to add a hint of mid range for authentic PULSE tones.
Noise level: N/A
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 8/10
Gilmour tones: DG78/Wall/Final Cut/Gdansk/Rattle score: 8/10

Electro Harmonix “ram’s head” Big Muff 1973
Compared to the average “triangle” the “ram’s head” has an overall more aggressive tone with more gain and brighter top and that classic mids scoop. The pedal stands well on its own but a transparent booster/overdrive adds to its already monstrous tone. The “ram’s head” is ideal for Animals and Wall but a hint of mid range boost makes it incredibly versatile for any era. Personally I prefer the later “violet ram’s head” for a bit more gain.
Noise level: N/A
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 8/10
Gilmour tones: Animals/DG78/Wall/Final Cut/Gdansk/Rattle score: 8/10

Electro Harmonix Big Muff (transistor and op-amp) 1976
This late 70s model was produced both as a transistor and op-amp version. The transistor version is very similar to the “ram’s head” with a bit more gain while the op-amp pedals has a distinctly bigger character typical of the early 90s grunge bands. In essence both are perhaps best described as a mix between the “ram’s head” and the early 90s Sovtek models with an aggressive, almost boomy tone that’s a bit hard to tame.
Noise level: N/A
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 4/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 5/10
Gilmour tones: Wall/Delicate/PULSE score: 5/10

Electro Harmonix Pi US 2000 reissue
The current US model is somewhat similar to the late 70s red/black Muff although it has little resemblance of the classic Big Muff tones. It sounds boomy, with a saturated gain character and a rather choked sustain. Not the best choice for replicating David’s tones but rather for more modern sounding idie and stoner. It does stand well on its own but can be hard to tame with a booster.
Noise level: 7/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 2/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 2/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE score: 2/10

Electro Harmonix Little Big Muff Pi
The current XO version is not to be mistaken for the 70s model with the same name. The Little Big Muff Nano is more or less identical to the US reissue although with a bit more presence and sustain, which makes the whole difference. A bonus is the small pedal board friendly foot print. It stands well on its own but works nicely in combo with a booster/overdrive as well.
Noise level: 7/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 7/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 7/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE score: 5/10

Electro Harmonix Big Muff Pi with Tone Wicker
This one is very similar to the Little Big Muff featuring an additional tone toggle switch based on the more popular mods on the boutique market. The “wicker” mode adds more presence sustain and the tone switch allows the tone stage to be bypassed for an even more scooped mids tone and fatter gain. Doesn’t quite stand up to similar boutique models but definitely worth a try.
Noise level: 7/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 7/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 8/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk/Rattle score: 6/10

Pete Cornish P-1
The P1 is based on a “ram’s head” circuit with the characteristic bright crisp top, fat lows and tons of sustain. It stands perhaps best on its own but a transparent booster adds a bit more warmth and an overall smother tone. Personally, I find the pedal a bit too pristine and lacking some of that classic vintage Muff mojo. However, the P1 is preferred by Gilmour and obviously nails those classic Animals and Wall tones. A hint of mid range boost takes care of the Delicate and PULSE tones as well.
Noise level: 10/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 8/10
Gilmour tones: Animals/DG78/Wall/Final Cut/Gdansk/Rattle score: 8/10

Skreddy Pedals Rust Rod
Skreddy Pedals Rust RodSkreddy has a well earned reputation of making some of the best sounding Big Muffs on the market. Most of the previous models has either been based on a specific tone or different variations of stacking a Muff with a booster. The Rust Rod is based on that mid 70s Big Muff, with lots of gain, low end and a bit of mid range, allowing it to cut through more compared to most other Muffs from that era. It’s loud and uncompromised but it nails David’s Animals and Wall tones particularly well and even without a booster behind it. Despite the huge amount of gain, the Rust Rod is very silent and it goes very well on lower wattage bedroom amps. See my full review of the Skreddy Pedals Rust Rod here.
Noise level: 10/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 9/10
Gilmour authentic tones: Animals/DG78/Wall/Final Cut score: 9/10

BYOC Large Beaver
The Large Beaver is in my opinion one the better sounding clone of the classic Big Muffs. The current kit feature setups for both the “triangle” and “ram’s head” models as well as an additional 3-way tone switch allowing classic scooped mids, tone bypass and mid boost. Both models are very close to the originals with the same musical qualities and tone. A bonus is the true bypass switching and dead silent circuit. The “ram’s head” is perhaps preferred for David’s tones but the “triangle” easily nails most of his leads from all eras. Add a hint of mid range (or use the mid boost feature) for a Delicate/PULSE tone.
Noise level: 10/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 10/10
Gilmour tones: Animals/DG78/Wall/Final Cut/Gdansk/Rattle score: 10/10

Thorpy FX Muffroom Cloud
Thorpy FX Muffroom CloudThe Muffroom has already become legendary. Probably because Thorpy are known for making extremely high quality pedals but also because the Muffroom takes the Muff circuit to a new level and modernising it, which has never been done before. It sounds like a mix between a Triangle and Sovtek, with a moderate amount of gain and lots of low end and mid range. The details and clarity of this thing is impressive and it easily doubles as a dark overdrive and even a fuzz. My minor issue is that it sounds a tad too nice and clean compared to most Big Muffs but it’s perfect for a tidy setup or if you wish your Muff sounded more like a distortion. The Muffroom sounds best on its own and fits most bedroom setups nicely. See my full review of the Thorpy FX Muffroom Cloud here.
Noise level: 10/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 7/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 9/10
Gilmour authentic tones: Delicate/Pulse score: 8/10

Buyer's Gear Guide - Gilmourish PickElectronic Orange Pig Hoof
The Pig Hoof is a clone of the mid 70s “ram’s head” with smooth, warm gain and a typically deep mids scoop. The Hoof has an incredibly tight lower end and clear presence that makes it equally suited for both a stand-alone pedal (especially with hotter pickups) and in combo with a booster. Of all the “ram’s head” models I’ve tried this is by far the loudest but also one of the quietest. The Pig Hoof covers all of David’s tones, Animals, Wall and Island in particular and it also works incredibly well on bedroom setups. See my full review of the Pig Hoof here.
Noise level: 9/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 8/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 9/10
Gilmour authentic tones: Animals/Wall/DG78/Final Cut/Gdansk/Rattle score: 10/10

Electronic Orange Pig Hoof MkII
The Pig Hoof MkII is a milder version of the standard red label. The MkII is tweaked and adjusted for studio recording, with less gain and low end than most ram’s head models. The idea is to be able to get the classic tones without all the low frequencie rumble and nasty, uncontrollable feedback. The pedal also goes extremely well with boosters, either you want a clean volume boost or a bit more dirt for a bit of both worlds. An internal trim pot allows you to fine tune the gain stage and match it with your amp and pickups. A unique and versatile Big Muff tailored for all situations and setups. See my full review of the Pig Hoof MkII here.
Noise level: 10/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 9/10
Gilmour authentic tones: Animals/DG78/Wall/Final Cut score: 10/10

Buyer's Gear Guide - Gilmourish PickVick Audio 73 Ram’s Head
Buyer's Gear Guide - Vick Audio 73 Ram's HeadIt’s always great fun to try out pedals with a different twist on an original design and sometimes that’s even what you need, but with Big Muffs I always tend to be coming back to the basics. As the name implies, Vick Audio’s Ram’s Head is based on the early 70s Ram’s Head model. Known for its crispy top, saturated gain and fat lows, this model made its mark on some of David Gilmour’s most beloved recordings. The Vick captures the essence of those tones, with an incredibly well balanced tone and character. It’s also got an onboard switch for three different mid range modes, which comes handy when you need your guitar to cut through. Well made and a price tag that should suit most budgets. See my full review of the ’73 Ram’s Head here.
Noise level: 10/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 10/10
Gilmour tones: Animals/DG78/Wall/Final Cut/Gdansk/Rattle score: 10/10

MJM Foxey Fuzz
The Foxey Fuzz is one of the few clones of the Guild and early “triangle” era Big Muffs. Although similar to a triangle, the Foxey Fuzz is perhaps an even more aggressive violet ram’s head kind of Muff with tons of gain and lower end. You will have a hard time taming it for a bedroom setup but pair it up with a loud tube amp and you have one of the heaviest sounding Muffs on the market. Perhaps not the typical Gilmour Muff but it easily nails all those late 70s tones.
Noise level: 8/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 8/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 5/10
Gilmour tones: Animals/DG78/Wall score: 8/10

North Effects 22/7 Violet Ram
North Effects offers a wide range of clones similar to BYOC based on simplicity and classic designs. The Violet Ram is a clone of the mid 70’s “ram’s head” that had a bit more gain and bite. This is definitely not a smooth sounding Muff but it nails those Animals tones in particular. Tonewise it’s similar to the Jam Pedals Foxey Fuzz although a bit easier to tame. A great option for a budget setup. See my full review of the 22/7 Violet Ram here.
Noise level: 8/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 5/10
Gilmour tones: Animals/DG78/Wall/Final Cut score: 7/10

Skreddy P19
The idea behind the P19 is to capture David Gilmour’s lead tones from The Wall as you hear them on the album. The tone is unmistakably ram’s head with a saturated musical distortion but the P19 has more mids and an overall darker tone compared to most other ram’s heads. Imagine a Stratocaster into a loud Hiwatt stack and an old rusty Muff recorded with an SM57 and a bit of studio compression and limiting and you have the P19. An additional mids hump switch allows even a bit more mid range for brighter amps and bedroom setups. The pedal stands best on its own but a transparent booster or EQ will give it a bit more top end and sparkle. See my full review of the P19 here.
Noise level: 10/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 7/10
With smaller amps/bedroom levels: 10/10
Gilmour authentic tones: Animals/DG78/Wall/Final Cut

Gilmourish.Com score: 9/10

Buffalo FX Ram’s Head NOS BC239c
Finally a take on the classic ram’s head circuit that mananages to deal with some of the issues. The Buffalo RH is no doubt a ram’s head with an aggressive and saturated tone and that raspy top but this one’s also got a hint of mids and a perfectly balanced low end. It’s slightly darker than most ram’s heads but the sustain sings for ages and there are no choked or dead tones. Pair it up with a transparent booster like the Buffalo Power Booster for opening it up further and adding a bit more bite. Nails all of David’s Muff tones and fits even the most demanding bedroom setup. See my full review of the Ram’s Head NOS BC239c here.
Noise level: 9/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom levels: 10/10
Gilmour authentic tones: Animals/DG78/Wall/Final Cut

Gilmourish.Com score: 8/10

JMB Experience Classic 70s
As the name implies, this one’s based on the original Big Muff designs, with an emphasis on the ram’s head model. It’s fairly dark and with a hint of mid range, which perhaps takes it towards the typical triangle flavours, but like the ram’s head, the Classic 70s has lots of gain and a growling low end. This is an excellent all-round Muff, capable of covering both David’s 70s tones and the Sovtek era and it’s darker character makes it a great choice for bedroom setups and recording. Se my YouTube review of the Classic 70s here.
Noise level: 9/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 8/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 9/10
Gilmour tones: Animals/DG78/Wall/Final Cut/Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk/Rattle

Gilmourish.Com score: 8/10

Behringer VD1 Vintage Distortion
The VD1 is very similar to the current EHX US reissue with a boomy saturated character and sometimes a choked sustain. This one is more suited for modern tones and indie rock and nothing I’d recommend for David’s tones. Adding a booster smooths out some of the harsh overtones but of all Big Muffs I’ve tried the VD1 really needs a loud tube amp to really open up.
Noise level: 7/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 5/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 2/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE score: 2/10

Mooer Triangle Buff
As the name implies, this is a clone of the first generation Big Muff, the so called triangle model. Like the original, the Buff has a dark and warm tone, with just a hint of mids and a fat lower end. It’s not as smooth and dynamic sounding as some of the other clones, like the BYOC Large Beaver or Red Muck but it’s fully capable of producing all the classic tone and, IOM, much better than most of the current EHX models. An excellent choice for tight budgets and cramped pedal boards.
Noise level: 7/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 9/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 7/10
Gilmour authentic tones: Animals/DG78/Wall/Final Cut/Gdansk/Rattle score: 6/10

Sovtek Russian tone models

The Sovtek Big Muffs are recognised by their huge tone. Fat low end, a nice mid range hump and the sweetest sustain imaginable. Compared to the triangle and ram’s head, the Sovteks often works best alone, without a booster. Some of the new clones are modelled after the early Civil War and tall font green Russians, which are considered superior to the later Sovtek models. Other clones offer new features and variations on the classic circuit.

Sovtek “Civil War” Big Muff Pi 1990
The “civil war” model is recognized by its familiar exterior and larger than life tone. Although very similar to the late 70s red/black version the “civil war” has a boosted mid range, crisp attack and thunderous lows as well as an incredible sustain. Its mild gain makes it easy to tame in combo with a booster, although it operates very well on its own. The pedal is ideal for David’s Delicate and PULSE tones but nails pretty much everything from Animals to Gdansk.
Noise level: N/A
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 8/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 9/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk/Rattle score: 10/10

Sovtek “Green Russian” Big Muff Pi 1994
The early so called “tall font” versions of the green russian is identical to the “civil war” while the later more common “bubble font” has a bit more gain and an overall nastier sound. The pedal is easy to tame in combo with a booster although it operates very well on its own. It’s ideal for David’s Delicate and PULSE tones but nails pretty much everything from Animals to Gdansk.
Noise level: N/A
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 8/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 9/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk/Rattle score: 10/10

Sovtek “Black Russian” Big Muff Pi 1998
Due to inconsistent circuits and vague transition periods the early big box Black Russian is essentially identical to the “bubble font” Green Russian with same mid rangy growling gain. The later slightly smaller box version however is closer to the US reissue and not that suited for replicating David’s tones.
Noise level: N/A
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 8/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 7/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk/Rattle score: 7/10

Note: As the early triangle and ram’s head Big Muff the Civil War, Green Russian and early Black Russian are hard to tell apart due to inconsistencies in the production and often overlapping designs and component values. See The Big Muff Pi Page for more details on each version.

Buyer's Gear Guide - Gilmourish PickElectroc Harmonix Green Russian
Buyer's Gear Guide - EHX Green RussianThe Green Russian is a faithful reissue of the early 90s Sovtek Big Muffs and the Civil War and green models in particular. Like the originals, the Green Russian has a fat low end, a hint of mid range and fairly moderate gain. Of all the Big Muffs, this is probably the most versatile for most amps and Electro Harmonix has done an impressive job recreating the tone in a smaller footprint. Regardless of the budget or price, this is easily one of the best Muffs on the market today. See my full review of the Green Russian here.
Noise level: 10/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 10/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk/Rattle score: 10/10

Electro Harmonix Bass Big Muff Pi
This Big Muff from the current EHX line is surprisingly close to the old Sovtek models and the green in particular. Tons of gain, massive lows and a pronounced mid range makes it a great option for David’s Delicate and PULSE tones. A featured toggle switch allows you to switch between bass boost, classic Muff tones and an effect mix control.
Noise level: 9/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 7/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 7/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk/Rattle score: 7/10

Pete Cornish P-2
Presented by Cornish as an upgrade of the P1 the P2 has perhaps more similarities with the late 70s red/black models and the Sovteks with a boosted mid range, thunderous lower end and tons of gain. Of all the Big Muff models this one sound best alone. A bit hard to tame perhaps and personally, I find it a bit too boomy and dark.
Noise level: 7/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 3/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 7/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE score: 5/10

Buyer's Gear Guide - Gilmourish PickBuffalo FX Patriot
Based on the Civil War Sovtek Big Muff, the Patriot has a well balanced low end, rounded top and creamy mid range. Compared to similar clones, like the Box of War, the Patriot has a more open sounding character, with a focus on the higher mids, which adds to the sweet singing sustain. The pedal is loud and has a lot of gain but the noise level is surprisingly low. This is probably as close as you’ll get to David’s PULSE lead tones. The pedal sounds huge – both on large tube stacks and bedroom setups. Highly recommended! See my full review of the Patriot here.
Noise level: 10/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 10/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/ Pulse score: 10/10

Vick Audio 1861
Buyer's Gear Guide Vick Audio 1861The 1861 is based on the early 90’s Civil War Sovtek Big Muff. Like the original, this one’s got a smooth and slightly darker character, compared to the 70s models, with a hint of mid range. Like the other Vick Audio Muffs, the 1861 has a 3-way toggle for adding more mid range that allows the pedal to cut through more. Compared to some of the other Sovtek clones out there, including the Green Russian, the 1861 has slightly less low end and more mids. Recommended for mids scooped amps in particular. See my full review of the 1861 here.
Noise level: 8/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 10/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk/Rattle score: 8/10

Custom Pedal Boards Muff War
Buyer's Gear Guide - CPB Muff WarThe Muff War is based on the first generation Sovtek Big Muffs, the so-called Civil War model, from the early 90s. This was David Gilmour’s main Big Muff unit during the 1994 Division Bell/Pulse era and again during the recent Rattle That Lock tour. Like the EHX Green Russian, the Muff War goes a long way in replicating those huge tones, with a fat low end and a hint of mid range. Looking for mini pedals? This is possibly the best mini Muff out there!
Noise level: 8/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 10/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk/Rattle score: 8/10

MojoHand Colossus
Based on the early Sovtek models, the Colossus lives up to its name with a huge tone, thunderous lows and endless sustain. Like the Civil War, the Colossus has a boosted mid range that can be further sculpted with additional controls. The pedal stands well on its own but a mild, transparent booster will bring out the attack and top frequencies. An excellent choice for David’s Delicate and PULSE tones. See my full review of the Colossus here.
Noise level: 10/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 7/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 8/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk/Rattle score: 8/10

EarthQuaker Hoof Fuzz
The Hoof Fuzz is based on the early Sovteks and the green in particular. It has that familiar fat mid range, saturated gain and rich sustain but the Hoof also got a bit more presence, which makes it a great deal more versatile. An additional mid range control also allow you to sculpt the tone even further. The pedal stands well on its own but handles boosters equally well. Ideal for David’s Delicate and PULSE setups, but doubles nicely as a fuzz for the earlier tones as well – especially for those bedroom setups. See my full review of the Hoof Fuzz here.
Noise level: 8/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 8/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 10/10
Gilmour tones: Pompeii/Dark Side/Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk/Rattle score: 8/10

CostaLab Custom Muff
The Custom Muff is perhaps best described as a mix between the triangle and early Sovtek models. This no frills Muff features the classic three knob configuration and a tone that ranges from vintage overdrive to full blast fuzz. The Custom Fuzz works equally well as a stand alone unit or in combo with a transparent booster for a bit more presence and bite. This is one of the more versatile Big Muff models that tackles everything from Dark Side of the Moon to PULSE. See my full review of the Custom Muff here.
Noise level: 10/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 8/10
Gilmour tones: Pompeii/Dark Side/Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk/Rattle score: 8/10

Wren and Cuff Box of War
The Box of War is, as the name implies, a faithful recreation of the legendary Sovtek Civil War. The tone is huge, yet fairly mild with fat lower end and rich sustain. Although very close to the original, the BoW is not as open sounding and dynamic as the Patriot (Buffalo FX). The Box of War stands well on its own but you can also combine it with a mild, transparent booster for a bit more presence. Highly recommended for Gilmour’s PULSE Comfortably Numb tones and a bonus for a cool looking box!
Noise level: 10/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 9/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 9/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE score: 9/10

Jam Pedals Red Muck
This is an unusual combination of the warm mild character of the “triangle” and the fat lower end and creamy sustain of the Sovteks. The Red Muck may appear a bit thin and flat on its own but opens up for a wide range of tones in combination with a booster. Ideal for David’s Delicate and PULSE tones and highly recommended for bedroom setups. See my full review of the Red Muck here.
Noise level: 8/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 10/10
Gilmour authentic tones: Delicate/PULSE score: 8/10

Blackout Effectors Musket
The Musket isn’t really a clone of any particular model although is has strong similarities with the late 70s red/black Muff and the early Sovteks. The additional pre, mids and focus controls makes the pedal incredibly versatile and suitable for more genres and styles than any other Big Muff. The focus control adds more presence and sustain allowing the pedal to cut effortlessly through the mix. Its also probably the best Muff model for bedroom setups and it manages to maintain its character on even the lowest levels. The Musket covers all of David’s lead tones from all eras and stands equally well on its own and with boosters. See my full review of the Musket here.
Noise level: 9/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 10/10
Gilmour tones: Animals/Wall/Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk/Rattle score: 9/10

Top Tone Drive Gate DG-1
The DG-1 is perhaps best described as a mix between the Cornish P1 and P2. Like the P1, there is an unmistakable ram’s head flavour, with moderate gain and a nicely balanced low end. Add a hint of mids and you got the DG-1. Although perhaps best suited for the 80s and 90s Gilmour tones, the DG-1 easily cover all eras from the late 70s Animals to present. It also stacks nicely with boosters and other mild overdrives, for more saturation and sustain. The closest you get to the real Conish pedals? Possibly. See my full review of the DG1 here.
Noise level: 8/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 9/10
Gilmour tones: Animals/Wall/Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk/Rattle score: 9/10

VFE Fiery Red Horse
The Fiery Red Horse is similar to the Royal Beaver and Musket, packed with features for different tones. The pedal is based on the early “triangle” era circuit with additional controls for choosing between different clipping stages, mid range modes and voltage for adjusting the overall gain. This is an incredibly silent pedal with a classic warm and mild tone but perhaps just a bit too mild. It really needs a booster behind it to open up and to get enough gain. Still, it’s a great sounding option for a wide range of Gilmour tones.
Noise level: 10/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 5/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE score: 6/10

MojoHand BMP-1
Part of Mojo Hand’s limited edition vintage series, the BMP-1 is a clone of the so-called tall font green Sovtek. It’s on the brighter side compared to the WnC Box of War and Buffalo FX Patriot but it has a bit more gain and a nicely balanced low end. The pedal stands best on its own but the low noise level allows a transparent booster to beef it up a bit. The BMP-1 sounds great for David’s later Floyd tones and PULSE in particular. If you’re a Sovtek fan then don’t miss out on this little gem!
Noise level: 10/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 8/10
With smaller amps/bedroom levels: 8/10
Gilmour authentic tones: Delicate/PULSE score: 8/10


Technically, these aren’t Big Muffs but rather based on or variations of a similar circuit. Lots of new pedals in this category is popping up allowing some of that classic Big Muff flavour to shine through in a more modern and versatile package and tone.

JHS Muffuletta
JHS MuffulettaThere’s been a few attempts at making the “ultimate Muff” and you can argue whether or not they succeeded. The Muffuletta is the latest addition and rather than using one circuit and allowing the user to dial in different Muff tones from that, the Muffuletta feature circuits for each model. It not only sounds authentic but they’ve also managed to recreate much of the characteristics and mojo of each model – good and bad. The Ram’s Head and Triangle in particular, sounds very nice but the Sovtek can do a pretty good job replicating David’s Pulse tones as well. This is probably the most versatile Muff on the market. See my full review of the JHS Muffuletta here.
Noise level: 10/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 9/10
Gilmour authentic tones: Animals/DG78/Wall/Final Cut/Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk/Rattle score: 8/10

MojoHand Iron Bell
MojoHand designed the pedal not to be a Gilmour-in-a-box but rather to capture the overall tone and being a tool for getting the tones you want from each period. You might have a hard time getting the early fuzz tones but the Iron Bell nails most of the stuff from Dark Side to present and especially the 80s and 90s tones. It has lots of gain, a fat lower end and an overall midrangy character. Tonally, it fits somewhere between a RAT and early Sovtek. Perhaps not the pedal for Muff purists but definitely one of the more versatile Muffs on the market. See my full review of the Iron Bell here.
Noise level: 8/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 5/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 9/10
Gilmour authentic tones: Animals/DG78/Wall/Final Cut/Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk/Rattle score: 8/10

Wampler Pedals Velvet Fuzz
No doubt aimed at the Gilmour fans the Velvet Fuzz is kind of a fuzz meets Muff meets Rat. It’s designed to capture the tone of a fuzz or Muff into a Marshall, which is very much what you get with a Rat or Cornish G2 but the pedal seems to fall between two chairs and doesn’t quite make it up there with other “stacked” pedals like the P19 and Iron Bell. A mini toggle switch allows two differnet modes – “tight” sounds like a very smooth Big Muff with lots of mid range and comression. Lovely sustain and nice attack for your Gdansk tones. The second mode “big” sounds too compressed and chokes up even on the cleanest amp and pickups. The Velvet Fuzz stands best alone and works best on brighter amps and smaller bedroom setups.
Noise level: 9/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 6/10
With smaller amps/bedroom levels: 8/10
Gilmour authentic tones: PULSE/Gdansk score: 6/10

BTMB Royal Beaver
The Royal Beaver looks overwhelming but it’s easy to operate and extremely versatile. In addition to the standard volume, gain and tone controls the pedal feature controls for three separate gain stages allowing setups for several models including “triangle” and “ram’s head”. Last a 3-way tone mode switch allows for classic mid scooped tones, tone bypass or mid boost as featured on the Large Beaver. The Royal stands well on its own but a booster brings out its full potential. It should be mentioned that although the RB allows a wide range of tones you’re basically tweaking around a typical “triangle” circuit with perhaps some limitations for the purists. See my full review of the Royal Beaver here.
Noise level: 10/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 8/10
Gilmour authentic tones: Animals/DG78/Wall/Final Cut/Gdansk/Rattle score: 8/10

Buyer's Gear Guide - Big Muff Deluxe PiElectro Harmonix Deluxe Big Muff Pi
The Big Muff has always been EHX’s most successful pedals but the company has failed to keep up with the explosion of boutique and clone models, that often offer a greatly improvement on the original circuit. Apparently, EHX decided to do something about this and designed a Muff packed with all kinds of features. The result is one of the most versatile Big Muff models on the market, with the capability to reproduce almost any Big Muff model from the late 60s to present, with impressive accuracy. If size and simplicity is your concern, then look elsewhere but the Deluxe is worth checking out if you want one Muff that can pretty much do it all. See Kit Rae’s extensive review here.
Noise level: the pedal feature an onboard noise gate
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 7/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 8/10
Gilmour tones: Animals/DG78/Wall/Final Cut/Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk/Rattle score: 8/10

Electro Harmonix Germanium 4 Big Muff
Contrary to what its name implies this is not a Big Muff but rather a germanium fuzz with a overall much milder and warmer tone. Its two separate channels allows for either a classic germanium overdrive or a typical late 60s Fuzz Face-ish tone and you can combine the two for a result much similar to combining a fuzz with a Colorsound Powerboost. A great option for David’s 1968-71 tones but not a recommended option for classic Big Muff tones.
Noise level: 7/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: N/A
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 5/10
Gilmour tones: Saucerful/More/Atom Heart/Meddle/Pompeii score: 6/10

Note: Electro Harmonix has a wide range of spin-off models like Metal Muff, Micro Metal Muff, Pocket Metal Muff, Muff Overdrive, English Muff’n, Double Muff and Deluxe Big Muff… did I forget someone? I wouldn’t recommend any of these for David Gilmour’s tones. In stead, check out the Tone Wicker or Bass Big Muff from the EHX catalog.

Pete Cornish G-2
The G2 isn’t really a Big Muff but rather one of Pete Cornish’s more unique designs. It has a strong reference to the germanium Fuzz Face and LM308 RAT with a creamy fat distortion, lots of sustain and mid range. The pedal is perhaps more versatile than a Big Muff, suitable for a wider range of musical genres and playing styles. The G2 stands well on its own and maintains its tone and character on even the lowest levels, making it ideal for bedroom setups.
Noise level: 7/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 8/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 10/10
Gilmour tones: Dark Side/Live 8/Gdansk/Rattle score: 8/10

Buyer's Gear Guide - Gilmourish PickBuffalo Evolution
Buyer's Gear Guide - Buffalo FX EvolutionAlthough David Gilmour is perhaps mostly associated with the Big Muff, he also use distortions like the RAT and Pete Cornish G2. These have more mid range and an overall more saturated character. The Evolution is based on the G2, with much of the same character but Buffalo FX has addressed some of the issues as well, like designing a more linear gain stage and an overall warmer sounding character. The result is an incredibly versatile distortion, with a tube amp like tone, sweet singing sustain and a very low noise level. See my full review of the Evolution here.
Bedroom setups: 10/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk/Rattle

Gilmourish.Com score: 10/10

TopTone Drive Gate DG-2
The DG-2 is loosely based on the Pete Cornish G2. Not really a Big Muff but closer to the classic RAT with a warm, creamy germanium tone and tons of sustain. Compared to the Cornish, the DG2 is actually noticeably quieter and even a bit smoother. An excellent choice for a versatile setup and for bedroom setups. See my full review of the DG2 here.
Noise level: 9/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 8/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 9/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk/Rattle score: 9/10

Vick Audio V-2
Vick Audio V2The V-2 taps into the Cornish G2 territory but unlike the TopTone G2 and Buffalo FX Evolution, the V-2 sounds closer to a Muff, rather than a Muffish Marshall. There’s lots of gain, mids and low end here but what sets it apart, is less compression and more harmonics. The V-2 can easily cover David’s more current lead tones, produced by the Cornish G2 but also double as a Muff and even a fuzz, with some tweaking. The V-2 sounds best alone, without a booster, and works equally well on smaller bedroom amps and bigger stage rigs. See my full review of the Vick Audio V-2 here.
Noise level: 9/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 8/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 9/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk/Rattle

Gilmourish.Com score: 8/10

Feel free to use the comments field below and share your experience, recommendations and tips!

1,157 Responsesso far.

  1. CLEMENT says:

    Hi Bjorn !

    I have a BYOC large beaver ram’s head (Nice pedal !). I would like to ‘boost’ it (before on the chain) and for that I thought of the Past FX TDY? I have a Butler tube driver, but not suitable for playing in a bedroom (I want to sell it for a PastFX TDY or other)
    Is this a good idea, do you have another pedal to do the job? (I thought Buffalo pedal also – very good pedal :-) )

    (amp: Cube head 15W)

    • Bjorn says:

      Why do you want to boost the Large Beaver? What do you want to achieve by doing that? I think these are important questions because in most cases, a Big Muff can easily stand on it’s own. Boostong in front will add more gain. Boosting after, like Gilmour does, will add more tone, EQ and compression. The TDY is an axcellent clone of the Tube Driver and IMO much more suited for smaller amps, bedrooms etc.

  2. Bjorn – thanks so much for all of your wisdom you share with us! Based on your advice I’m running a MIM strat with CS69/SSL5 into a Vick 73RH into a TD-X, into Laney L5T combo trying to get some Gilmour lead tones. I still don’t feel like I’m “there” with muff tones. Question: where do you typically set your guitar volume? Ordinarily I try to make between 7-8 on the guitar my “normal” volume. This way I have room Bothe roll it back for more clean tones, but also room to push more. I wonder if your suggested Muff settings, etc. may differ quite a bit from my setup if I’m starting with different signal level from my guitar? Thanks!

    • Bjorn says:

      Thanks for your kind words! For me it starts with the amp and how you set it up. This will be your platform for how much you can adjust the guitar volume and how you should set the pedals. What’s your amp settings?

      • Bjorn, I started with your recommended settings and tweaked them a little for my guitar and room.

        Clean channel
        Bright mode
        Bass a touch below 3:00
        Mids at 4:00
        Treble 8:00
        Tone around 11:30
        Volume around 10:00

        Thanks again!

        • Bjorn says:

          OK, I like to have my guitar volume around 8.5-9. Lower than that takes away some of the dynamics and gain. At least on my guitar. Your amp settings looks fine. You may want to try using the gain channel as well, for more mid range. Try using the same settings and set the gain around 8 or as high as you can without getting overdrive. Other than that I would try to just tweak the Big Muff. I’m not sure what the “problem” is but it seems to me that we’re talking nuances here. Keep in mind too that volume plays a huge role in David’s tone, which is something that’s hard to achieve in a bedroom.

  3. John Ugolotti says:

    Hey Bjorn! I’m thinking about getting the P19 fuzz. I’m a huge fan of the guitar tones on the wall and have been using a rams head reissue pedal to try and nail those tones but it seems to be too loud for my bedroom setup. Would you say the P19 is the best alternative to getting those wall tones? Thanks!

    • Bjorn says:

      Could be. Depends on what amp and pickups you use.

      • John R Ugolotti says:

        I’m using a strat with seymour Duncan SSL-5 pickups fed into a Hiwatt T-5 and Marshall cabinet with my second amp either being a Bugera V5 or my little fender amp. Thoughts?

        • Bjorn says:

          It should work very well I think. Keep in mind though that the P19 has a lot of gain as it is a stacked effect.

  4. Canaan Perry says:

    The Moen Fuzz Moo is a pretty cool, under-the-radar Big Muff type pedal. The tone knob does something different though and there are more mids available — especially when compared to the 2000s-era NYC Big Muffs with their cavernous scooped mids.

  5. Eric says:

    Hey Bjorn,

    I’m currently looking for an affordable pedal that can recreate that Ram’s Head Big Muff tone, I’m torn between the EHX Green Russian/EHX Ram’s Head and the Mooer Triangle Buff.

    What would you think would be better to recreate Gilmour’s Ram’s Head Muff.

    Thanks a lot,

  6. Dom Biesen says:

    Hello Björn
    I would lire to have the 3 muff on my pedalboard
    The triangle
    The rams
    The Russian
    Please what is from your point of view? The current ehx reissue or the current byoc kit ?
    Thanks in advance

    • Bjorn says:

      I think the new EHX reissues are great and hard to beat.

      • dbiesen says:

        Hello Bjorn
        Thanks for your prompt anwser. I agree the price of the new EHX is very attractive. But Im looking for the best tone and the price is not a problem. The best tone are the EHX or the Byoc clone? Thanks

        • Bjorn says:

          I think the EHX are better than the BYOC. One of the first Muffs I ever owned, was a first generation 3-knob BYOC Triangle. It sounds amazing but the EHX has much more of that vintage mojo. They all do. Maybe, if you look at brands like Wren and Cuff etc you may find pedals that are better but IMO that’s more about taste. These three from EHX is as close as you can get to the originals but other clones out there may offer other nuances that might please you better. Qualitywise, I wouldn’t hesitate on the EHX.

  7. Tony says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    Any thoughts on the RYRA Tri-Pi Muff?

  8. Luc says:

    Hello Bjorn, it’s been a while since I wrote on here. I hope you are well. I need your advice on Big Muff. I am hesitating between the new Green Russian and Ram’s Head Big Muff Reissue. I love the Pulse tone and also Animals, The Wall. I have two combo amps. One is a Laney Cub 12R clone with a 12 inch Celestion Greenback. This one has EL84 and it’s a dark amp. My other amp is a Marshall Origin 20 with a 10 inch Celestion VT-Junior. This one has EL34. I like the Marshall a lot. It’s a great pedal platform amp. This amp is bright. Which Muff would go well with both amps. I am a bedroom player. I play Strats with noiseless single coil pickup in the bridge position.

    • Bjorn says:

      I’d go with the Green Russian. Like them both but the Green Russian has more compression and mid range, which fits a wider range of amps.

      • Luc says:

        Thank you very muck Bjorn, I just ordered a Mooer Triangle Buff. It was on sale, a great deal. I will try this one out. I have a lot of ODs, I probably will be able to make it sound good. If I can’t make it sound good. I will go for the Green Russian. I have a Mooer Black Secret that I like a lot. Thank you again and take care. Cheers! :0)

  9. Patrick says:

    Hi Bjorn, not really related to the Big Muff, but I saw some great quality pictures from the Jan 1977 rehearsals in the Animals part of the site.
    I’m collecting these kinds of pictures, and especially the one which shows dave’s guitars is far better than what I already have. Is there any way you could send me the full pictures, without the numbers on? Thanks in advance

    also, thanks for this fantastic site. Because of you I bought the Mooer E Lady the Blues Driver and the Laney Cub Head, and I absolutely LOVE all of them !

  10. Walter H. says:

    Hello Bjorn here’s wishing you well!
    I’m not an EHX fan at all. I’ve tried several different models and sold them all. They feel to me like what they are, an inexpensive pedal. Just not my thing. If I want to try another Green Russian type of pedal, what do you recommend? I’m not rich as in a Cornish, but a better built version then an EHX. What would you choose?
    Thanks again for the greatest info site out there! I’ve learned so much and Spent so much reading all the articles…?
    Thanks for all you do for all of us…?
    Walter H…

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Walter, I don’t agree that the EXH reissues sound like inexpensive pedals… whatever that means. I think EHX has done an amazing job replicating the tone of their old classics and the Green Russian in particular. There’s two reasons why EHX pedals are cheap. They use cheaper parts and they sell thousands of each model. That keeps the prices down. Smaller companies have higher costs and some companies, like Cornish, also has a brand. Anyway, tone is a matter of taste. The Buffalo FX Patriot is by far my favourite Sovtek clone. It’s no longer made but I haven’t come across any better. Check out the Wren and Cuff Box of War and the Red Muck from Jam Pedals as well. Both very close to those early Sovteks.

      • Walter H says:

        Bjorn thanks for the reply. I never said the EHX Pedals Sound inexpensive ?Reread my comments please…
        What I said is Exactly what you said they use cheap parts and high volume to keep prices down. With that being said I don’t buy JOYO pedals either due to my experience with their quality.
        I will look into the two that are available that you wrote about.
        I do like Jam pedals and own a Ripple per your recommendation already…Every pedal company has a target audience I’m just not an EXH fan…

        • Bjorn says:

          Ok, I misunderstood your comment then. I see your point and that’s my issue or main concern as well about mass produced pedals. Anyway, I like both of the pedals I mentioned. The Box of War is perhaps a bit darker sounding, while the Red Muck has a tad more vintage flavour, with a blend of the triangle and Sovtek.

          • Walter H. says:

            ? Thanks Bjorn.
            I respect you and surely did not wish to offend you in anyway. You always help keep me motivated to play better during these crazy times…
            Stay safe, Stay well. ?
            Walter H.

  11. pan says:

    Hallo Bjorn,
    at first thank you for this massive load of information. I have a Fender mexican Strat classic series 50’s, marshall sv20c. My pedals are the dunlop fuzz face mini, tc flashback 2 x4. A short while ago I bought the ehx big muff pi

    now I have problems to get the Gilmour sound with the muff, especially with the bedroom setup. I’m not very happy with it. Do you think, I should send it back and take another one? I imagine the large beaver is a good choice, but the version with the two muffs inside is not available at this time. I would also take the vick audio 73 ram’s head, but this pedal is a little bit expensive for me. I also found a colorsound clone from aion electronics:

    or is a tc spark booster better, or maybe the boss bd2?
    what can you recommend to me, to get more gilmour sound?

    • Bjorn says:

      The current Big Muff Pi isn’t that suited for David’s tones, as you’ve experienced. It’s quite aggressive and aimed at a more modern type of sound. It always depends on how you set the amp, but the SV20c is an excellent pedalplatform if you keep the gain low for a fairly clean tone. Be careful with the treble too. To be honest, I think the EHX reissues are great and the Green Russian in particular. They did an amazing job at capturing the tone of those early 90s Sovteks. For overdrives I’d check out a BD2 or something similar. It depends on what tones you’re looking for and how you want to use the pedal – boosting or overdrive.

  12. Joel Lamb says:

    Hi Bjorn, thank you for all the effort you’ve put into this great site.
    Do you have any recommendations for an overdrive to stack with a Green Russian reissue? I’ve tried a blues driver, super phat mod and a mojo mojo. They all sound good with my ram’s head reissue but don’t do it with the green Russian.
    I have a small setup with an orange micro terror and 12 inch speaker.
    Thank you for your time.

    • Bjorn says:

      Thanks! The Green Russian is a fairly dark sounding Muff so it often work better with a brighter sounding boost or at least a more transparent one. I’m often using the BD2 but the MojoMojo has a bit too much mid range and compression for my taste… for boosting. It might be an issue with too much gain as well. The Micro Terror doesn’t have all that much headroom and stacking pedals will create more gain and compression so I would try to set the amp as clean as possible and see if the Green Russian could work on its own.

  13. Emilio says:

    Please, if you could afford for only one of the Electro Harmonix reissues, which one you would choose: Ram’s Head, Green Russian or the Triangle?

    • Bjorn says:

      Green Russian. IMO it’s the most versatile and the one that fits most amps.

      • Emilio says:

        Thanks Bjorn. Please, one more question, regardless of the price, what would you chose: Pete Cornish P-2 or Green Russian reissue?

        • Bjorn says:

          I think you get more tone for the buck with the Green Russian. It’s a superb clone of the early 90s Sovtek. You can’t really compare these two. They’re no doubt similar but the Cornish is more pristine sounding, with a slightly different Muff character. Keep in mind too that EHX are selling thousands of their pedals, while Cornish are making only a few and the high price also reflect a brand.

  14. Chris says:

    Bjorn, do you have any experience with the sovtek deluxe muff? I currently have the green Russian (got it after I sold my original black box sovtek) and it’s fantastic. Aside from the typical gilmour lead tones, I also use my muffs to play punk/doom/grunge stuff and although the GR and RH both work fine for that, it would be really nice to have the added tone options, especially the interactive mids controls and wicker switch. Thinking about getting it, but I’d be going in blind as no shops near me stock them.

    • Bjorn says:

      As far as I know it’s based on the same circuit as the Green Russian with more options and features. I like it. It’s easy to dial in the classic tones and add whatever you need for different amps, guitars and musical styles.

  15. HPayne says:

    Apologies if you already covered this but…any thoughts on the Tru-Fi Pedals “Floyd Fuzz”?

  16. Caden W says:

    Hey Bjorn! love the page, i got a question for you though, i recently got an EHX Big Muff Nano, and im tryna figure out how to get that great round tone in most of the Solos from the wall, my fuzz tone right now seems abit wild and angry, and goes all trebly when i play higher notes,

    Again love your Page

    P.S. your page is so good that im on it instead of focussing in class


    • Bjorn says:

      Thanks for your kind words Caden! Teh Big Muff nano has a very bright tone. What amp and pickups do you use?

      • CadenW says:

        i use a PRS S2 Vela (has some seymour duncan saturday night pickups i installed ages ago), and in terms of an amp, i got a Line 6 Spider 240v, with a clean tone, im thinking of getting a better amp one day, but thats what i got right now

        • Bjorn says:

          OK, I think the combination of your fairly hot humbucker pickups, the amp and the saturated Big Muff is just too much for David’s tones. You can definitely dial in some smooth clean tones and set the pedal with low gain but I think you’ll have a hard time getting THE tone. I’m just being very honest here. It’s been a while since I used the Spider but the best approach would be to set up a clean tone, with a bit of mids boost and the treble rolled back a bit. The Big Muff nano is very hot so you probably want to set the volume to unity level with the amp, roll back the tone and keep the gain around noon. See this feature for some tips on choosing the right pedals for different types of amps. Hope this helps.

          • CadenW says:

            oh okay, thanks dude, ill probably get a strat eventually, this dudes tone is my end goal lol, anyways, thanks for the advice :)

  17. Eden Bell says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    I have to say I really love this site! You have built quite an extensive archive with the wealth of knowledge you continue share on all things Gilmour. no doubt you’ve put so much time into it and helped so many people, so on behalf of the many I just want to say a huge thank you to you for that.
    That said, I would like to pick your brain if I could and I will be happy to make a donation for your time.
    The thing is I would like to accurately replicate the solo tone from Comfortably Numb off The Wall album. The gear I have is a Roland JC40 and an Exotic sp compressor pedal so I’m wondering what the best Muff (and also any other pedal I would need to put in the signal chain) would be. I figure there’s no one more qualified to ask on this subject so I would greatly appreciate any and all advice you can throw my way.

    Kind Regards,
    Eden Bell

  18. Eden says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    I’m totally blown away not only how much information you have pumped into your website but also the wealth of knowledge/ wisdom you share. I can’t thank you enough for that.
    That said, I have a Roland JC40 and I’m really chasing the Comfortably Numb solo tone so wondering if you could recommend a particular Muff pedal and also any others to add to the chain that would help me nail it.

    Cheers, Eden

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Eden, apologies for the late reply. Thanks for your kind words! The JC40 might not be the best Muff platform as it is very clean. The Muff usually prefer a bit darker and grittier amps. Between all the models I guess the EHX Green Russian will work or, perhaps one with a mid range boost, like the Vick Audio 73 Ram’s Head. Check out this feature too for some tips on choosing the right pedal for different types of amps.

      • says:

        Hi Bjorn, all good for the steady reply mate, crazy times out there at the moment, I’m just glad your well. Thanks heaps for your reply and guidance mate, you’ll be happy to know I decided to purchasethe 73 rams head by vic audio (as It was the more tweakable option of the 2) I received it today and have to say I’m happy as with how it sounds!
        Thanks again for your guidance you certainly know your shit sir!

  19. Daniel says:

    Hey Bjorn! I’m definitely going to buy one of these 3, but I don’t have anywhere local to try them. I mainly play with humbuckers, and some single coils. I play through an EVH 5150 III 6L6. Do you have any suggestions? Thanks!

  20. masini says:

    Amazing Website !!!!!! Thank you so much !!! Great !

  21. Merchant McArtor says:

    I loved your reviews of the Green Russian and the Ram’s Head! I’m planing to by one of them and I am a guy who likes to play doom metal every now and then. Which one would fit better for doom metal?

  22. Ale says:

    Hi! What do you think about Walrus Jupiter v2? It’s a muff based fuzz. I don’t know if it’s based on a specific muff or if it’s a Walrus Audio’s muff interpretation

  23. Martin says:

    Hi Bjorn, i recently got a pedalboard from my brother, whar order would you give to this pedals to get a PULSE tone?
    Guitar: Fender Stratocaster Japanese
    Amp: Fender Blues Junior III
    – MXR Reverb
    – Boss Digital Delay DD-7
    – Boss Digital Delay DD-3
    – Big Muff Pi
    – Digitech Bad Monkey
    – SP Compressor
    – Rocktuner Tuner

  24. Patrick Sommer says:

    I haven’t seen the Ram’s Head Reissue in this list. What do you think about that one? i mean this one. Or is it just a Pi reissue in another housing?

  25. Shahzad Malik says:

    Hi Bjon!!! I am a new guitarist and recently read almost all your posts on Pedals for Amps. All in all I have Hughes and Kettner Matrix 100 Amp head. Based on your suggestions I purchased Electro Harmonix Triangle but it is sooo noisy with my Yamaha VFM611 guitar with Seymour Duncans both at Bridge and Neck. Previously I used MXR Badass as distortion and it has no noise so maybe MXR Fuzz will go best with my Amp. I was reading on your page today and you have not reviewed a single Fuzz Pedal from MXR, is there a reason. There are lots of different models and I believe one of them fit Gilmour. Could you please look at MXR Jimmy Hendrix series + Brown acid for me and let us know if they are good for Gilmour sound or if they are made for Jimmy Hendrix sound only. Thanks and regards Shahzad.

    • Bjorn says:

      The Triangle is nosy but that’s the nature of those vintage style fuzz circuits. You’re adding a ton of gain to the setup and that will be noisy. A fuzz pedal from MXR would behave much in the same fashion. The trick with fuzz is to use a clean amp platform or, a hotter amp and less gain on the pedal. Between the EHX reissues, the Green Russian has the least gain and least amount of noise.

  26. Stratophile says:

    HELP! Does anyone know a source for overdive tone pots for the EHX Germanium 4 Big Muff Pi?

  27. Steve says:

    Hey Bjørn. Great article. The Muffuletta v the Thorpy for a deep low end blues sound on a Gretsch.
    Also how would a Green Russian go with a Thorpy or is that just too much.
    Appreciate your thoughts as I’m about to enter the Muff domain.

    • Bjorn says:

      The Muffuletta has a lot of great tones so you might want to check that out. Very versatile. I wouldn’t stack two Big Muffs. Way too much gain and noise.

  28. Humberto Cavalcante says:

    Do you know this fuzz “Analog Design Audio Model 1 – Clone Do Pete Cornish P1”? Pedal built by the company Analog Design Audio, located in Greece and led by Builder M. Koutroulis. I am thinking of buying it

  29. Seth Nayle says:

    Hello, Bjørn

    If I may make a suggestion, Wren and Cuff The Caprid, the big box and the little foot versions. I would love to see those two compared. The big box as I know, the circuit board and most of the circuits are an exact replica of the big muff, all the way down to the solder lines but I do believe it is discontinued. I would also love to see a demo of the Tru-Fi Rams Head Floyd Fuzz. It sound pretty true to the Gilmour tone and then some. Gilmour used the Alembic F-2B preamp for his Yamaha RA-200r, there is a clone of that called the Frog FX-1 Ruggedized. I’d love to hear how it would sound in before and after fashion. Also, ThoropyFX is releasing a pedal called the ‘Camoflange’ it is what I feel to be the only true heir to the EHX 70s Electric Mistress. The Camoflange has 3 more knobs including Treble, Harmonics, and Blend. It sounds just as good, if not better than the original. As a bonus, it’s completely analog. There’s very limited reviews on all of these pedals. It would be nice to see demos of Gilmour tones for these pedals.


  30. Andy says:

    Hi, Bjorn! Thanks for your contribution! Could we expect review of a new EHX Ram’s head reissue?

  31. Daniel says:

    Hi Bjorn !
    It’s never enough thanking you for all your work and effort :)
    I had a question concerning the Buffalo FX TD-X, how does it compare to the buffalo power boost ? By having the Evolution I’m looking for adding one of these two .
    I have a Big Muff Pi , but that easy to balance with the rest of the pedals.
    Would you consider a pedal switcher on your pedalboard ?
    Cheers , Thanks !

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Daniel! Sorry for my late reply. The TDX, or Tube Driver, is slightly more amp-like, with a bit of mids and compression although very open sounding. Much like an old Plexi really. The Power Boost is much more transparent, with very little mid range and compression. Two different sounding pedals although they cover much of the same tones.

  32. Robert W Horton says:

    Hello bjorn,
    I’m running single coils into a fender twin reverb bf.
    When playing using my clean tone along with my muff and powerboost I need some mid boost. I have both a boss ge7 and a ts9. Using either pedal for a mid boost is it best to place it before or after my muff and powerboost pedals.
    I basically want an always on mid boost pedal. Either my ts9 set on clean or ge7. Should I place my eq before or after my od and fuzz pedals? I want my ts9 for just the mid boost but want to hear my muff and powerboost tones most dominant. Want the ts9 to color my tone as least as possible but still getting the mid hump.
    Rob h


    I would like to suggest a review of Dazatronyx Big Fuzz.

  34. Frank says:

    Hi Björn, i have bought the last BM Rams Head and i think it really nails the sound of the wall. Especialy comfortably numb and young lust. But – why hasn‘t David played young lust on his tours ever. And why is Animals behaved like the redhaired stepchild by the Floyds?
    Any opinion?

    • Bjorn says:

      I have no idea. Young Lust has never been a song the band has focused on and Animals, although very much a Gilmour album in terms of the arrangements, is a Waters concept. No artist can ever please every fan :)

    • Robert W Horton says:

      I agree about animals. It’s my favorite floyd album. The wall in my opinion is just ok but animals kicks but. Gilmour really shines with his tele, colorboost and rams head.
      I think after the breakup with Roger, floyd wanted to stay away from waters main albums, animals and the wall. Probably brought back very bad memories from working with roger being so controlling. But they have to perform the walls big hits for the fans. (Roger does animals songs in concert all the time. I saw Roger in Miami Florida twice doing animals full album tour. Was the best show Ive seen out of over 200 concerts and seeing floyd twice in 94. The animals album cover came to life in the arena. The pig n power plant rose from the audience. Omg.
      Or maybe they weren’t allowed to do those particular songs due to a court order.
      Roger battled with the band in court it was a real blood bath from what I researched.

      • Bjorn says:

        Roger has the rights to the Wall concept but Floyd are allowed, like any artist, to perform the songs. They had to do Another Brick in the 80s and 90s as it is undoubtedly their biggest hit but Run and Numb was initially written by David for his 78 solo album, so they’re as much his as Roger’s. Roger doesn’t own Animals other than writing credits and royalties on the songs. David has stated many times that he’s very proud of Dogs but I don’t think he feels that they represent him and his contributions to the band, although he wrote much of the music. Animals is very much a Waters album.

  35. Harold Reid says:

    Hi Bjorn. I find myself these days without a proper fuzz/muff pedal and think it’s time to correct that. Do you still recommend these days the Electronic Orange Pig Hoof MKII?

    • Bjorn says:

      The MkII was design to fit my recording setup. It’s got less gain and low end compared to the MkI or your average Ram’s Head. It needs a booster after it I think, which was the initial idea too. As you probably know, Muffs depend on having the right amp so on a loud Hiwatt or Marshall, the MkII will sound like a monster. For a bedroom setup or a more scooped amp, you probably want to go for a Sovtek/Green Russian style Muff.

  36. Fred Markert says:

    Bjorn, You are my guru about all things Gilmour. Your info is more accurate than anything I’ve found anywhere on the web, and your extensive knowledge and experience is truly remarkable! That’s why I’d like your opinion on what muff to get to nail the Comfortably Numb tone on PULSE? I have a Hiwatt Little D amp on order (although they’ve changed the name) and the proper Strat and pickups. I currently have an original BuffaloFX Patriot but I’m wondering if there is a better pedal to nail the PULSE tone? I don’t care about brand or price, I just want to nail the PULSE tone as closely as possible. Which pedal would you suggest as the best for that?

    • Bjorn says:

      Thanks for the kind words Fred! David used a Civil War Sovtek Big Muff often combined with a bit of compression and a clean set Tube Driver for a bit of tone shaping. The new Green Russian from EHX is really great and you’d have no problems nailing the tones with it. To my ears, the closest I’ve come is the Patriot from Buffalo FX. It’s a tad darker but the sustain is amazing and it has that slightly nasal throaty tone :) Check out my review of the Patriot here and more about David Gilmour’s PULSE setup here.

  37. Kyle says:

    Hi bjorn, it’s me again. Will you review/discuss the reissued big muff rams head in your YouTube channel??? Also, I’m not sure how to combine the reissue and the dallas arbiter fuzz face together along with the glove OD overdrive to get more Gilmour like sounds since I just got the Reissue rams head today…

    • Kyle says:

      The only thing that happens when I do is either a certain combination of those pedals is either it gets really loud and sounds like a microphone screeching or it cancels out the signal and I can’t hear the guitar. I think this might have to do with true bypass in the big muff ram’s head but I’m not sure…

    • Bjorn says:

      The review is up :)

      • Mikky Whalan says:

        Hey Bjorn, What settings would you recommend For The Wall earls Court tones on the Rams Head Reissue? I set up .y amp clean but not bright but enough to cut through the mix
        With my Squier Strat with a dimarzio FS1 cheers

  38. Robert W Horton says:


    Good day bjorn,
    Just purchased and received my new electro hormonics rams head big muff reissue,
    My reviews,
    Awsome sound and hormonics.
    Looks sounds great when playing.
    So damn noisy. Even with humbuckers so freaking noisy. I’ve tried switching placement and wires with other pedal but no matter what I do all other pedals no noise at all. This one loud hiss n hum no matter what I do or where it goes. It’s the noisiest pedal I’ve ever owned.
    My question,
    is this normal or is this pedal defected? I have four other big muffs all reissues and never had this much noise.
    Going to exchange for a different one. If same issue occurs might try the muffletta or another
    Clone instead or just stay with my pi, sovtek which I already own but love the gilmour tone especially with animals album era, so really kinda need the ramshead version tone type.
    Your thoughts please bjorn?
    Thank you very for reading my post.
    Rob h.

    • Bjorn says:

      I haven’t had the chance to try it yet but my experience with Rqm’s Heads is that they have much more gain compared to a triangle and Sovtek, so there will be more noise. I’m not sure how they did the new circuit or exactly what ram’s head specs they used but I suspect that it will be the noisiest of the lot. Whether or not your pedal is faulty I can’t tell.

      • Robert W Horton says:

        I don’t think the pedal is faulty, just noisy.
        When I compare to my deluxe big muff pi with the gate off its almost the same noise. Just a tiny bit more but I guess that’s due to the higher gain ramshead.
        I’m glad you mentioned that to me. Makes me feel better about the pedal cause I really like it just not the noise lol.
        Plus when I turn my guitar away from my pedalboard the noise changes it dissipates a bit when standing in certain positions so it’s not the pedal. I’m going to keep it and look for a really good gate for it. any good recommendations on a noise gate/reducer pedal. the cheap one I have now doesn’t even work because the feedback hum is so much lol. Need one that works like the one in my deluxe muff pi.
        Thanks for your feedback bjorn. :)
        Rob h

        • Robert W Horton says:

          Wish it was a deluxe ramshead with a gate like my nyc pi and sovtek. That would’ve been perfect. Maybe next year lol.

        • Mikky Whalan says:

          The Xvive has a really good noise gate for about $20 – $40 Usd

        • Charles says:

          The TC Electronic Sentry is very good, the Boss NS-2 is also + has a mute switch witch can be useful for someone who doesn’t use a volume pedal, but the Electro Harmonix Silencer is just as good but costs much less. The MXR Smartgate is not up to standard as the previous 3 pedals I mentioned. I do in fact own each of these pedals in various rigs. The MXR is on $*!+ duty on the reject board.

    • Robert, mine is the same, yours doesn’t have a defect. Enjoy it regardless, its inherent in the circuit, as Bjorn says.

  39. John E1 says:

    Anxiously awaiting your review of the just released Ram’s Head reissue. Also, the Boss DD-8. I was ready to get the TC Flashback 2 when the DD-8 came out. I’m a fan of Boss and EHX, and I prefer buffered pedals, so the DD-8 will probably be on my pedalboard soon.

    • Bjorn says:

      EHX promised to send me one so I’ll have the review up ASAP.

      • John E1 says:

        That’s great! Thanks, Bjorn.

        Like so many others around the world, you’re site is very much appreciated. Thanks for all the time, effort, and money you put in to providing this great resource!!

        And, a GREAT BIG THANKS to David GIlmour!! He has surpassed every other guitar player when it comes to the amount of attention poured over his playing.

        I remember when Dark Side of the Moon first came out. There was nothing else like it at the time. There were so many great “new” sounds coming out from so many bands. Rock n Roll was an exploding,explorative art form. Pink Floyd were audio and visual pioneers before light shows were commonplace. It should be noted that psychedelic drugs played a big part in the art form exploding. It was hip back then, even fashionable, to tune in, turn on, and drop out. Today is boring in comparison. Or, maybe I’ve just turned into my Dad and become an old fogey. Lol

    • Shawn says:

      Yes I second the motion for the reissue Ram’s Head!

  40. christophe guy says:

    what do you think of the electro-harmonix announcement of the release of the big muff Ram’s Head PI bjorn???

  41. Ap says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    Looks like EHX released a reissue of the Ram’s Head. We might be in for a treat! Are you considering getting one?

  42. Kory says:

    I’m sure you’ve already seen the news, a rams head reissue from ehx.

    You’ll have a review asap for us right?

    I had the green russian. Got rid of it for the triangle. Was about to get a green Russian again then ehx drops the news of the rams head reissue.

  43. JDR says:

    So, Electro-Harmonix just reissued the Ram’s Head Big Muff. The demo seems to indicate it’s pretty convincing for Wall-era tones.

  44. Kareem Monzer says:

    Hey Bjorn!

    Let me start off by saying that I love your website! Talk about a niche offering…

    I found it very interesting that you say the best big muff depends on the type of amp the player has. I’m currently debating between the Green Russian and the Triangle. My amp is the Orange Dark Terror, which is quite dark sounding and bass heavy naturally.

    Which one would you recommend?

    Thanks in advance!

    • Bjorn says:

      Thanks for the kind words! Between the two I’d go for the Green Russian although I guess you might find both of them a bit too dark on your Orange.

  45. Dave says:

    Hi Bjorn, thank you for the excellent guide, I thoroughly enjoy reading the articles on your website.

    I’m thinking of getting one of the new EHX Big Muff pedals, either the Green Russian or Triangle, which one do you think would be better through a Fender Blues Junior?

    Do you think there will be a Ram’s Head version soon from EHX?

  46. piazzi says:

    I have been playing a Sovtek Deluxe Big Muff Pi these past few days and I really like — really really

    I can’t wait to hear your take on it and, hopefully, your demo of it

  47. Pierre-Yves COTE says:

    Hello Bjorn. I just can’t imagine the amount of time that you put in to answer all the questions and add/update all the information on this site. Thanks for sharing all this with us. I did not know under which section I should put my question so I’ve put here.

    I have been buying pedals for a while and would like your input as to what should go on my pedalboard given the amps that I have. I have read your section on “know your amp” and I am aiming for the Gilmour/Waters sound era sound. I have the following:

    Strat rosewood neck, PU are Fat 50, CS 69 and SSL 5.
    Amps are Fender BJ USA with the Cannabis Rex (your recommendation) update; DR Z Maz Sr 38 (Celestion V30, and G12H Vintage Series 70th anniversary Special Ed.).
    Pedals are: Boss CS-2, J. Rocket The Dude, Boss BD-2, Vick Audio Ram ’73 (your recommendation), RAT, Boss Chorus CE-2, MXR 1974 Vintage Phase 90 CSP-026, Boss RT-20, Eventide Time Factor, TC Electronic HOF, Eventide Mod Factor.
    Of the board I also have an MXR ’76 Vintage Dyna Comp custom shop, TS808, Purple Fulltone ’70 fuzz and an MXR 1974 Distortion +
    I would be willing to shop for another amp such as the Peavey Classic 20H or the Laney Cub 15 (so something with enough power but also easy to carry) if need be for a better sound however I suppose that I would have to change my pedals so I would like to start with what I have. For the sound I am shooting for, am I missing something else? Which pedals should be on my board? Thanks again!

    • Bjorn says:

      Thanks for the kind words!
      I guess all of your pedals will provide typical Gilmour tones but for authenticity for the Waters/Gilmour era, you might want to reconsider typical 80s effects like chorus as David didn’t use that in the 70s. I guess it also depens on the amp. I’m not that familiar with teh Z but pedals like the Dude, which is based on the Klon, is something I’d consider using as an EQ on the BJ for a bit more mid range. Try setting it clean, with unity gain placed after the other dirt pedals.

      • bryan herward says:

        Might not be glamorous, but I’d get a Radial BigShot ABY so you can use both those amps together…I paired a Blues Junior (C Rex as well) with a Marshall DSL15 combo and it went a long way towards getting the bigness out of a smaller rig. Plus, the bottom end and frequency response is so much clearer…plus…wet/dry rigs, chorus or leslie sim on just one one amp….it goes a long way toward replicating the effect of 2 Hiwatt stacks and 2 RA200’s/Dopplas..etc


    Hi Bjorn. I´m using Top Tone DG1 – Top Tone Shine Boost – E-lady – Flashback delay in a clean Fender Bassman to play Comfortably Numb but I don´t like the result. What do you think in using this boost after th DG1? Can you give some advice? Thanks a lot!!!!!

  49. Andrew T. says:

    Hi! I’ve got a VintageFX Colordrive 2 and I’m running a Fender Blues Jr. VI. I’d like to get a decent Gilmore tone and I figured I’m half-way there with the Colordrive 2. I wonder if the nano version of the big muff pi would be a good economical way to get a decent GIlmore-ish tone. If not, are there other more moderately priced muff-style pedals you’d recommend? I’ve heard good things about the Tru-Fi Floyd Fuzz. What do you think? I’m trying not to completely overhaul my setup.

  50. Edvin Strandberg says:

    Hi Björn! I’ve got an Orange Micro Dark and I wonder if it’s possible to use that amp for Gilmour tones and what Muff would work best with it?

    • Bjorn says:

      Those Orange micro amps doesn’t have that much headroom so you might find it a bit too agressive but thry the EHX Green Russian. It’s fairlhy mellow for a Big Muff and compliments Marshall and Orange very well.

  51. John Thompson says:

    Hey Bjorn,
    Awesome website!
    What big muff do you think would be suitable but for the ac15, or is it too difficult to get gilmouresque muff tones out of the amp?

  52. Walter H. says:

    Hello Bjorn, as always a great post on a great site.
    You have helped my create some incredible tones so far, Thank You.
    With your guidance I’ve purchased a Laney Cub 12 R to replace a solid state Fender and it is breaking in nicely and sounding better every day. I replaced the V1 tube with a JJ 5751 Gold Pin preamp tube so far to clean up the gain and grit a bit. An old SRV trick I understand. I’ll be replacing the other preamp 12AX7 tubes next to smooth it out a bit more.
    I’m now ready for a Muff style pedal.I use my Vick Audio Tree of Life for boost and a Svisound Overzoid+ for gain, growl and to push the amp.
    I know there is a lot of variables but what Muff with that Laney amp would you like? I like the tones of the Newer EHX Green Russian but I don’t know if it will sound warm and creamy as you say or sound like a fart another Bjorn quote.
    I’m open to your suggestions. You said that the Laney Cub12R was a Marshall like a JTM or Plexi but not quite. There are so many choices I was hoping to get a very good match on the first try.
    Looking forward to your remarks, Walter H…

    • Bjorn says:

      Thanks for the kind words, Walter! The Green Russian would work nicely. As I’ve commented on before, Muffs needs a bit of volume, compression and mid range to get that smooth violin sustain. A bedroom doesn’t allow much volume but increase the mids on your amp to compensate. The Green Russian has a bit of mids and a smoother gain compared to most Muffs.

      • Walter H. says:

        Bjorn, One more question please. Any input on the JHS mod Green Russian vs the std? Is it worth $55.00 more in your opinion? Sorry I forgot to ask last night.
        Walter H.

  53. John Dandry says:

    Hi, have you reviewed the new EH triangle Muff yet?

  54. Patrick Rogan says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    Not sure if this is the best way to reach you because it is such an old post but I have a Laney Lionheart l20T and I’m wondering which fuzz to get. Out of the Vick Audio 73 Ram’s Head, Buffalo FX Patriot, Electroc Harmonix Green Russian and Electronic Orange Pig Hoof which one would you recommend to combine with my amp for the best tone?

    • Bjorn says:

      All of them really but it depends on how you set the amp and what pickups you have. The Lionheart can handle pretty much anything but you need to have the mids pretty high, at least at 3 o’clock or else vintage style fuzz and Muffs will sound thin and drown in a band mix. The Pig Hoof is probably the most mids scooped so as much as I love that one, I’d probably go for a Green Russian or a Patriot MkII. Both fits the amp very well.

  55. Philip Cornelius says:

    Hey bjorn, im using a fender strat into a fender deluxe reverb and having trouble deciding between this pedal or tve buffalo patriot. I know the amp is mid scooped so this pedal obviously has the mid hunp needed. Would tha patriot be worth it maybe if stacked with a ts9 or would it best to just get this one? Thanks

  56. Dominique Vermoet says:

    Hey Bjorn,

    First of all, thanks for all of the amazing info on this website, its been super interesting to read!
    I’m currently using a Fender Super Champ X2 > Line 6 Pod HD500 > Full drive 2 mosfet and while the sound is pretty decent in a bedroom, I wanted to change things up and sell the pod and replace some of the features with individual effects. I’ve read about fender amps not working well with big muffs because of their mids and was wondering if you could make it work if you combine it with a compressor and/or EQ pedal? All this time I’ve mainly played bluesy stuff a la John Mayer and the full drive 2 has been pretty great for that but it definitely lacks that big sustained Muff sound.

  57. Tim says:

    Hi again Bjorn,

    I had no idea that Buffalo had also released the Patriot MkII. In your opinion, is there much of a difference between the original Patriot and MkII? I see it has the 2 added controls on the outside (mids and lows). Which one would you choose? Thank you, Tim

  58. Tim says:

    Bjorn, I really loved that sorrow video you did with the Buffalo FX Patriot pedal a few years back. I know there’s a lot of variables in capturing that badass sustain harmonic feedback sound in my bedroom when I’m concerned also about neighbors and loudness. I use both Fenders and Gibson’s and a mesa boogie lonestar with your suggested settings. My current chain starts with MXR 1974 Phase 90, then Effectrode PC-A, then Vicks Audio 73 Rams Head, then EHX Deluxe Electric Mistress, then Boss DD-2. Do you think a Buffalo FX Patriot would have a sweeter feedback harmonic sound then the Vick 73 rams head or should I be using an overdrive in my chain (if so, what overdrive do you like?). I also commonly substitute an EHX Soul Food, OCD Fulltone and Buffalo Evolution in my chain. Obviously nothing comes close except my Vicks 73 Rams Head in capturing the song sorrow. Thank you Tim

    • Bjorn says:

      That feedback sounds very Pulse to me. Not to brag but it does and it’s basically just my Reeves/Hiwatt and the Patriot with a bit of delay. I may have been using some modulation but that’s not important. I did play VERY loud but you should be able to find that sweetspot with less volume. Anyway, the Patriot reallt capture that throaty and fat Muff sound David has on Sorrow from Pulse and the tone of the feedback just came very natural. You can’t get that with a ram’s head or triangle. Close but not the same feel and tone.

  59. Joel says:

    Hi Bjorn, thank you for sharing your knowledge on Muff pedals. Have you tried the Vick Audio Triangle and how do you think it compares to the VA 73 Rams Head? Thanks, Joel

    • Bjorn says:

      Actually I haven’t. I would imagine though that the Ram’s Head is brighter and slightly more aggressive sounding.

  60. Ken Tong says:

    Hello Bjorn, thanks for this comprehensive website for Gilmour’s tone. I am more than joyful to learn from you.
    I am looking to build a Big Muff Triangle or Russian diy. I learnt from you that BYOC is an excellent choice. I wonder if you ever try a Big Muff from They also have Big Muff kit which has several mods and even an add-on PCB for active tone control. What do you say?

  61. Chris says:

    This site is just epic! Thank you for putting this together! I have several Muffs- a Rams Head clone, a Triangle, a vintage black Sovtek, and an Op Amp. I use mostly the Triangle, the Ram’s Head and Sovtek for Gilmour tones in combo with the various mod pedals. Usually I can dial in everything from WYWH on, more or less. But which, if any of these pedals, would be best for getting close to some of the earlier tones, particularly DSotM? Thanks! PS- I’m adding an EHX Crayon to the mix. Wondering if that might help too!

    • Bjorn says:

      Thanks for the kind words Chris! The triangle would perhaps be the closest to a fuzz. You could use any of these but I think I’d go with the triangle and without boost as that would sound more compressed and “modern”.

  62. Frank Bizzoco says:

    Hey Bjorn! I am in the market for another big muff after my BYOC triangle died. No loose wires or anything, it just stops working, and starts working when it wants, and I cant have that lol. So I was curious on your opinion; My setup is SSL5 bridge pickup, and an orange Crush CR60. From what I have read, you have very little experience with Orange amps, so I’ll just say it is solid state, but reacts very well when pushed loud like a tube amp. Also it is a darker sounding British amp with a pronounced mid range. I was looking at the Vick audio violet rams head, or the EHX Triangle reissue. Or even just wait for EHX to come out with a Rams Head themselves. I know a lot of those old rams heads can sound like triangles, and vice versa, so a triangle reissue could suffice. Also from what I have heard, a violet rams head is a brighter sounding muff to counter act a darker amp. Dont know how true that is because I cant test one. Thanks again for all your hard work. Between you and Kit Rae, there is just a plethora of info that i just get lost in reading, and it always helps my tone. Oh and i play mostly Animals/Wall Gilmour tones.

    • Bjorn says:

      Thanks for the kind words, Frank! Are you sure it’s not just the bypass switch? Happened to mine. I guess the ones that are closest to the BYOC TRiangle is the Vick Audio 1862 and EHX Green Russian. They’re not triangles, but have that same slight overdrive dark character. The other ones you mention are very bright and aggressive. Might not be the best choice for a solid state amp.

      • Frank Bizzoco says:

        Thanks, Bjorn I’ll look into the bypass switch. It really is a great sounding pedal otherwise. Green Russian I have heard nothing but fantastic things from everyone also.

  63. Michael says:

    Can a peavey 5150 handle a big muff for gilmour tones?
    Also how would a peavey classic 30 compare to a hiwatt?

    • Bjorn says:

      I have very little experience with the 5150 so I can’t really answer that. The Classic 30 is much more of a Marshall kind of amp. Darker, more compressed and mid rangy compared to a Hiwatt. Great amp for Gilmour tones tho and a good platform for most pedals.

  64. Nicholas Quek says:

    Hey Bjorn,

    Thanks for all the great work you’ve done on this site :) Love your content.

    I had a question regarding muffs for rhythm. I currently have a Skreddy P19 which I love to death. I’m currently on the hunt for a more raunchy muff that would be good for rhythm sounds. It would be awesome if they sounded great at lower gain too :)

    Currently I’m looking at a Ram’s Head style muff, am I headed in the right direction vs. the P19?

    I use a PAF-equipped LP, along with a 15W Laney amp.The other drives in my signal chain are a Snouse BB2, Barber Direct Drive (big box), Skreddy Screwdriver Mini Deluxe, and of course the P19.

    Best regards,
    Nicholas Quek.

    [something which I’m looking for might be akin to Ernie Isley’s tone on Back to Square One (which might not even be a muff tbh) would appreciate your wisdom.]

    • Bjorn says:

      I would definitely look into the EHX Green Russian. It’s great for overdrive and rhythm tones, as well as pretty heavy leads. A Ram’s Head would be too aggressive for PAFs if you want overdrive.

  65. Nik says:

    Hey Bjorn,
    You mention many amps but not Mesa Boogie (as far as i know). Problem is i don’t feel safe to match it with any distortion or fuzz pedal cause on both distortion channels is already breaking up very quickly (very little headroom) and i don’t know if the clean channel is a good match for such pedal. Any ideas?

    • Bjorn says:

      I often use Mesa Dual Rectifiers on stage while travelling. The clean channel is not as middy and compressed as a Hiwatt or Marshall but it’s great with most pedals. I often roll back the treble quite a lot and boost the mids and bass to around 3:00. The gain about 2/3 of the master depedinding on speakers and pickups. Obviously this varies depending on what Mesa you’re using. Some are more Fenderish than others. See this feature for some tips on choosing the right pedals for different amps.

  66. Mike says:

    Also what muff would you recommend for the wall budget between $80 $200

  67. Mike says:

    Hey when I cranked my amp the Moore triangle buff sounded worst than at lower volume

  68. Kareem says:

    Hi Bjorg,

    What do you think of the new AC Noises Esplora Pedal for Gilmour tones?

  69. Michael says:

    What settings do you think could work on a hiwatt maxwatt g40 12r?

  70. christophe guy says:

    what do you think of as an alternative to the big muff green russian of the TC Electronic Honey Pot Fuzz??
    Thank you bjoern

  71. Michael says:

    Hey what settings do you recommend for the Moore triangle buff

  72. Chaz says:

    Bjorn how about the EHX Big muff Russian new reissue or the M1? If you had to pick ! Thanks

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Chaz! Sorry for my very late reply. Been busy recording a new album :)
      Two very different sounding Big Muffs. The Russian has a darker tone, with more mids and a hint of compression. The M1 has much less mids, similar to a ram’s head.

  73. Steve says:

    Hi. Wondering if you have tried the OneControl Baltic Blue? Any comments?

  74. Michael says:

    Hi I am just wondering the big muff settings sustain 70 volume 50 60 and tone 30 40 the tone is it backwards like the rat or was it set like the modern muffs

    • Bjorn says:

      It’s for the modern Muffs. Keep in mind though that settings depends on your specific pedal, pickups and amp. David’s, or any other setting that’s suggested, might not apply to your rig.

      • Michael says:

        But I mean as in the tone was it setup like turn to the left all bass and right all treble or left treble and right all bass? Also I am using a squire Strat with stock neck and middle a dinarzio fe1 a mxr Dyna comp block a Moore triangle buff an ibanez ts mini Infront of the muff a boss ce2w boss dd3 joyo classic flanger based of an electric mistress and a mxr phase 90 but I have more pedals
        A vox vt 40x set to a British amp I get pretty close to 1971 1983

  75. Marek BILEK says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    I am little bit in trouble to find good fuzz sound of david gilmour.
    I have tried already the green russian but its not what i am looking i am thinking to try buffalo patriot or iron bell mojo fx or even something else what will get close to the sound as a ampli i have katana 50 and i never play gigs or anything like that its really for bedroom set up.
    Thank you for help

  76. -phil says:

    Thought I would chime in re: Swollen Pickle. I recently acquired one and have been experimenting with it. There’s a lot of tone shaping capability in it for sure. Also, there are two trim pots on the inside of the pedal for even more tweaking. So a total of five(5) tonal / character shaping controls in addition to volume(loudness) and distortion(sustain). The jury is still out on it as I still need to spend some time with it before actually putting it in my rig for show-time. I posted to this forum and mentioned it to Bjorn. So far I a/b’d it with my EHX Green Russian Reissue and also my Moen Fuzz-Moo (Ram’s Head style BMF). I can get it to sound pretty much like either one of them and this is with somewhat limited time doing so but I plan to experiment further. A very versatile fuzz. I picked mine up used for $50 in mint condition.

  77. Kevin Langford says:

    Hi Bjorn!
    Looking forward to your review of the Sovtek Deluxe Big Muff…looks interesting.

  78. Ben says:

    Love the Vic Audio Ram’s head pedal so versatile. Not only for Gilmour but many other uses. My review:

    Question for Bjorn regarding Fuzz, have you tried the Way Huge Swollen Pickle fuzz pedal? I tried one today and it was quite a scream.


    PS: been saving up for a Fender black strat and Laney amp for the Gilmour sound.

  79. John says:

    Hi- Since I also play lots of Bass I was leaning towards a Tone Wicker (based on other reviews) but after your Green Russian review I’m questioning it.
    I’ve never owned a Big Muff & like most am trying to keep a budget (don’t want to buy 3 Muffs). At this point I feel like I should start over & dig deeper – sure would be nice if I could line up several of them in my studio & try them on both my rigs – guitar & bass.
    Any recommendations for the best guitar/bass muff?
    Thanks, Dru

    • Bjorn says:

      I think you’ll be very pleased with either the Bass Muff or Green Russian. They’re very similar so it really doesn’t matter much which you choose. I think both are better than the Tine Wicker and all of the more modern pedals. What you want is enough low end so that the bass doesn’t lose its character. A bit of mids also helps the tone to stay focused.

    • Krish says:

      Try a way huge pork and pickle

  80. Ryan says:

    Hi Bjorn! I’ve recently been trying to chase the comfortably numb solo tone. Im using a Vick 73 rams head, Vick Overdriver, e-lady, and nova delay, all running into a Mesa boogie Mark iv. My problems are that when all used in conjunction with one another, it rounds rather dark and muffled. Is the problem a lack of mids? It sounds better when I turn the Overdriver off. I just can’t seem to get close. Also, the e-lady sounds way too dominant. I’m open to any ideas haha

    • Bjorn says:

      If it helps turning off the Overdrive then that’s probably what you should do. Keep in mind that you probably have a different setup than David did so his approach might not apply to you. The Vick Ram’s Head also has a lot of gain so to my ears it’s better used alone. The ELady or the old Mistress is dominating. It’s just it’s nature. Of you listen to live recordings from the 10980-81 Wall tour you can hear it all over the place. On the album he used a Muff only and the signal was split between a Hiwatt and Yamaha rotating speaker cabinet for a hint of modulation. Your amp is not as bright and mid rangy as David’s Hiwatts so you would have to use settings that applies to your amp and not his. I could go on and on but tone is very subjevtive and depending on the rig you have.

    • Kirk says:

      I use an E-Lady and the Sovtek Green Russian reissue running into my Mesa boogie Mark IIC so I am aware of your problems. I ended up using a Boss LS-2 line selector pedal and run the e-lady and a Boss GE-7 eq pedal into it, through the amp effects loop which also includes a Flashback II for some delay, that way I can mix to the proper levels and also add some eq. I run my boogie with the mid and bass (shifted) at 5 and treble and presence control at 7. I run my stock American Strat through a Boss CP-1X compressor, muff then straight to the amp. With the proper settings I can get pretty close to the desired tone. Expensive way for three songs off our set list but the compliments are well worth it IMO!

  81. Is very hard get a gilmour tones without a Big Muff. But if you don’t have one, a good distortion pedal can bring you nice solo tones. I use Mooer Black Secret to play some David solos. But in specific songs, Big Muff is definitively hard to beat! Especially Ehx Green Russian. My advice? Get one! But keep a good distortion pedal in your set to.

  82. Greg Kala says:

    HI, Bjorn!

    Thanks for all of the guidance! Sorry, but I’m confused about which Electronic Orange Pig Hoof is better for bedroom playing. If I’m reading correctly, you seem to indicate they both work at bedroom levels. I know you had the MK II created for your tastes and studio work, but do you think the red or the blue Mk II is generally preferable for us bedroom players? Thanks! Greg

  83. Mike says:

    I am about to buy my first muff.
    I have a question, which one do you recommend? Electronic Orange Pig Hoof MkI or new EHX Green Russian?

    • Bjorn says:

      Depends on your amp. The Pig Hoof has lots of gain and low end but a very scooped mid range. Can sound thin on Fender, Vox etc. The Green Russian has a bit more mids and compression. Two very different sounding Muffs.

  84. Matt Rubenstein says:

    Hi Bjorn. Thanks for such an enjoyable and informative website. I would like your opinion on a Big Muff choice. I use a Carvin Strat type guitar with three low output single coil pickups. Both of my amps are Fenderish Rivera amps. I also have an excellent “booster”/light overdrive that I would use after the muff which has a tendency to smooth out the grit of a muff a bit but doesn’t choke it at all. The overdrive is by a company called Gizmo Audio and it is called the “sawmill”. This overdrive also seems to increase touch sensitivity. I’m not necessarily looking to nail a particular era of Gilmour, just looking for a muff that would sound great with this setup for Gilmourish leads. I was looking into the EXH Green Russian, the Vick Audio Ram’s Head, and the Vick Audio Violet Ram’s head. Thanks!

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Matt! Sorry for my very late reply. I haven’t tried your amp so I can’t really tell and normally I’d recommend other distortion pedals for Fender-ish amps but I guess the Green Russian would be your safest choice. It has a nice and warm character, with a bit of compression and mid range that should work nicely with your amp.

  85. Thomas Redmond says:

    Just wondering, have you used the Way Huge Swollen Pickle? I’ve gotten a lot of Big Muff tones out of it but it also can turn into a nice vintage blues fuzz (like an 108 tone) since they’re at least 7 knobs all together on the pedal. I haven’t found another fuzz to replace its versatility or footprint. My question is, would you consider it more of a muff or more of fuzz?

  86. Randy says:

    Hey Bjorn! I have two questions:

    1) I’ve a Fender blackface Vibroverb and stuck an Effectrode Tube Drive in front of it. The TD is a lot like a Fender hot rod style front end but with tons more gain on tap: dialed back it’s lightly dirty while cranked up it’s pretty grungy.

    I’m considering getting the Vick Audio ’73 Ram’s Head but I figured I’d ask you about it first…? I’m looking to get some credible Wall tones. Is there a Muff that would work better with my setup or is that a safe bet? Although my amp has miles of headroom and is pretty scoopy, the TD makes it the exact opposite.

    2) Also I was wondering if you had plans to try out any of the new Tru-Fi Floyd Fuzz muff clones? Dan from That Pedal Show tried the Ram’s Head variant on TPS recently and said it was his favorite Ram’s Head at the moment.

    Thanks a lot!

    • Bjorn says:

      I haven’t tried the Tru-Fi so I can’t comment on it. My experince is that Fender amps are often better paired with more mid rangy pedals, like a Rat, OCD or similar. Muffs tend to get too bright and scooped. The new EHX Green Russian or a Vick, with a mids boost, are perhaps your best choice.

  87. Ryan says:

    Hey Bjorn! I’m in the market for a muff, so what would you recommend for a good animals and wall era fuzz between the Vick 73 rams head or the new ehx triangle muff?

    • Bjorn says:

      Depends on your amp. The Vick has a mid range booster switch that’s handy on the more mids scooped amps. The triangle is the more vintage sounding.

  88. Charlie says:

    So EHX just released a triangle version similar to the Russian reissue. Which do you think are better for bedroom players (Strat -> Fender Princeton)?

  89. Michael says:

    Hello, Bjorn. EPICALLY great Gilmore tone, etc reference site. Thank you very much for all the effort you’ve put into everything.

    My question is (and perhaps it’s been answered and I missed it) what Big Muff “substitute” do you recommend for Fender owners? I own a HRDv, one of the most popular combos on the planet. Out of all the countless mass produced, boutique, and inexpensive clone pedals available, there’s gotta be something that’s voiced “decently enough” in a way that compensates for the lack of mids in Fender amps. I believe I remember reading somewhere on this site that your opinion was if you owned a Fender amp, that essentially a Big Muff shouldn’t be part of the signal chain….at least of course pertaining to getting Gilmour’s tones. I’m not looking to necessarily “nail” the tone, but at least get very close. I find it hard to believe there’s no acceptable substitute, regardless of the fact it’s a Fender amp.

    There’s gotta be some sort of “Mid heavy, Muff like” pedal that is voiced in a way as to compensate for a scooped mid amp like the Fender HRD. What pedal(s), in your opinion, would best suit my requirements for a proper Muff like tone?

    Thanks for your time.

  90. Liung Yit says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    What do you think about ELECTRO HARMONIX mod. BIG MUFF TRIANGLE (xo ultimate edition)?


  91. Rob says:

    Dear Bjorn, I think your work is great, but it really needs to be upgraded with some Stomp Under Foot reviews. Matt is one of the best muff expert, and his muffs deserve attention. Specially the 73 RH (which I owned) and the Civil War, which I proudly have in board right now. The 73 RH was way better sounding than the Cornish P2, and the CW is really amazing.
    Also, if you could you should try the Arc Effects Shepherd and the Castledine V2.


  92. Ignacio Olmedo Godoy says:

    Hi Bjorn

    Thanks for all the work invested on the page.

    I’m interested in the new Green Russian Big Muff, but when I heard the many different reviews, I notice a “lack of force”. So, I’m searching something like the ram’s head, but I have a pair of questions:

    – Do you have experience with the Chicago Stompworks ram’s head clone? (Moose Pie)
    – I know than in Comfortably Numb’s solo in Gdansk, Gilmour use a Pete Cornish pedal, but, to have that exactly tone, do you recommend the ram’s head (or something similar) or the green russian?

    Much thanks for your time.

    Best Regards from Chile

    • Bjorn says:

      Sorry for my late reply. It depends on your amp, pickups and how you use the pedal. The Green Russian is certainly capable of producing heavy tones, with lots of grit and sustain so I warmly recommend it for David’s tones but again, depends on what gear you have with it. Keep in mind too that it comes down to taste. Compared to some of the other Muffs, the Green Russian and the early 90s Sovteks have less gain so if you’re looking for something with a more fuzz-like character, then you might want to look elsewhere. I haven’t tried the Chicago.

    • Silvio says:

      I hope to do something useful by publishing this video. What do you think about it ? how do you feel the triangle compared to the other video muffs? greetings (a curiosity: having already a vick audio 73 ram’s head, which of these four would you put alongside in the pedalboard?)

      • Bjorn says:

        I hope to have a review up very soon of the triangle. It sounds very promising I think and I have very high expectations based on what they did with the Green Russian. The Green Russian is probably the one that’s least similar to your Vick.

        • Silvio says:

          So do you recommend putting green russian next to the vick sound 73 ram’s head? I was undecided between the green and the triangle reissue. However, in my opinion the nano big muff (in the video) has been underestimated. In my opinion it sounds really good) Greetings

          • Bjorn says:

            Well it all comes down to taste. I can’t tell you how you will appreciate these pedals and how they’ll end up sounding with your gear.

  93. chris gala says:

    Big day with the release of the new EHX Big Muff Triangle. I look forward to your opinion. I wonder why they chose the Triangle over the “Ram’s Head” version to reissue.

  94. Steph says:

    Any plan to review the new Electro-Harmonix Op-amp Big Muff?

  95. Gertjan Vosters says:

    Bjorn, i’m stuck between the Vick Audio Ram’s Head and the EHX Green Russian muff. Which one do you think works best? I’m playing a strat with a SD SSL-5 in the bridge through the Laney Lionheart L5 Studio(with aan very nice 12 inch Celestion Blue <3) thanks in advance

    • Bjorn says:

      I love them both! The Vick is perhaps the most vintage sounding, close to the ram’s head, and it has a 3-way mid range booster. The Green Russian is probably as close as you’ll get to David’s 94 Muff tones, with the old Sovtek Muff. Both works nicely with the Lionheart.

  96. piazzi says:

    thank you very much for doing apiece on Electro Harmonix Green Russian Big Muff

    I got and am amazed at how well I can use it

    what amazes me is how well rounded and warm it sounds even on higher frets with humbuckers

    I only wish that its gain knob had a more gradual gain increase. It immediately hits me with a lot of gain, but that’s Ok

    and the price!

    it’s only 100 dollars canadian — so much value for so little money

  97. Jesse Malone says:

    Hi Bjorn — love this site, extremely helpful demos and great playing. In your opinion, how do the Buffalo FX Patriot and the M-1 pedals compare in terms of singing, soaring, liquidy sustain?

    • Bjorn says:

      Thank you! I think both has a very smooth character and lots of sustain. The Patriot is, as the original, slightly darker, with more low end and perhaps a tad less gain. The M1 is based on the tone you get from stacking a ram’s head Muff with a booster and overdrive. As a result, the tone is slightly more compressed but also brighter, with more gain. I don’t know. Depends on the amp, pickups and your taste I guess :)

  98. Liung Yit says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    I’m looking for a well balanced big muff with devastating mid, bass and highs range.
    What do you propose to buy ?


  99. moogbadger says:

    The Green Russian reissue really does sound lovely! It’s somehow crunchy and smooth at the same time. And it sounds ‘big’ even on my little Vox Valvetronix amp. I was inspired to get one when I noticed that Stuart Braithwaite of Mogwai was using one recently at a gig I attended in Manchester, and ‘Gilmourish’s’ seal of approval on top convinced me. It’s well worth checking out. Not only does it sound lovely, it’s also hard to get a ‘bad’ sound out of it, with all the knob positions being usable to a greater or lesser extent.

  100. Frank says:

    I have a “small” black box Russian Muff, I think from the late ‘90s. Do you think can be used to emulate Gilmour sound? Have you ever tried it? Thanks

  101. Yit Liung says:

    …… very good:

    0. T-PEDALS mod. MUSHROOM: custom muff based on “triangle” circuit modified for better dynamic and low- gain distortion but still capable of sustained tones ( custom section)


    2. T-PEDALS mod. T-FUZZ

    ….. very interesting electronic system sound instrument.

  102. Nick L says:

    Hello Bjorn! Thanks for all the great info! I am back to playing through Plexis (I love the classic vintage Marshall sound). My Tube Driver sounds amazing through a Plexi but most big Muffs, like you mention, sound a little too aggressive. Would a lower gain muff like the Pig Hoof Mk 2 work better with a Plexi than higher gain Muffs? I play Teles and Strats, all single coils. Thank you again.

    • Bjorn says:

      Depends on how you’ve set the amp. The MkII is quite bright so it might be a bit too bright for a Marshall. I usually set my Silver Jubilee like Billy Gibbons, with the mids and bass cranked and the treble and presence rolled all the way down and it works nicely with most Muffs. I think the EHX Green Russian would be a better option. It has a nice headroom and a slightly dakrer character.

      • Ed Tweedy says:

        Hi Bjorn ,

        As a Gilmour fan I am truly grateful for this site . You are very talented and knowledgeable and I hope for the best in your new endeavors.

        This is my first time posting and I am hoping you can help guide me in the right direction before I waste hard earned money on gear that will be counterproductive in achieving my long term goals.

        I am a Gilmour fan , so much that I started playing 2 years ago and I have literally hit the ground running . I started with the an acoustic and made the jump to electric last year .

        Because of my very limited knowledge on amps , pedals , how they work etc… I have spent countless hours on your site,as well as instructors and you tube educating myself .My short term goal is to be able to play solos in the pulse , Division bell ,era with “Marooned ” “Coming back to life ” high up on the list .

        I started with a MIM strat and recently put emg dg 20 “s and had the strings changed to boomers into JHS pedals ,Pulp n peel , Charlie Brown , I just ordered muffuletta and finally into a Boss Katana 50 .

        So far the pickups and pedals are a good improvement on the tone but it does not seem quite there yet .I am hoping the muffuletta is the missing piece but was told to switch the boss to either a Roland Jazz Chorus or a Fender for better results . Will the JHS pedals match up well with these amps or am I suddenly heading in a wrong direction . I am really trying to pinpoint that smooth “Muff” tone with some bite to it .

        Would really value your expert opinion .

        Best Wishes !

        • Bjorn says:

          Hi Ed! You’re tapping into the biggest and most difficult topic and it’s always hard to provide a good answer. The main reason is that tone is subjective. I’m sure what I like, does’t apply to you. And vice versa. I’ve written about this throughout this site and I recommend that you read through a couple of features first and let me know if you need more input after that. This one for some general Muff tone tips, this one for knowing which pedals to choose for your amp and this one for some amp setup tips.

  103. Baris says:

    Hello Bjorn,
    I’m looking for Gdanks 2006 solo tone especially Echoes’ and CNumb’s last solo tone. This crying screamy and mealy tone enchants me. Which pedals do you recommend for this tone?

    I’m using Marshall style amp now and I will buy a Hi-Tone amp with 2×12 Eclipse cab.
    I have Seymour duncan 805 > Truetone Jekyll n Hyde > JHS Muffuletta > Boss blues driver ( Keeley mod ).
    I am really happy with this setup and I can get almost all eras Gilmur tones but I can’t get Gdansk crying mealy solo tone and I need your help.
    I am looking for Toptone DG2, Vick Audio Tree of life, Byoc large beaver, Blackout effectors Musket, Stomp under foot Violet rams head.
    For your opinion, which one can be the best one for this job? Or do you have a better advice?

    • Bjorn says:

      The Muffuletta should do the job but keep in mind that the tone you describe is a combination of David’s Stratocaster, his Hiwatt amps and the Muff or G2 that he used. Volume is also crucial because once you drive those amps, the Muff will sound much more compressed and smooth. You can compensate that to some degree by either adding a booster, EQ or perhaps swapping the Muff with a more middy and compressed pedal like the OCD or Tree of Life but it won’t sound exacltly the same. That nasal character is a Muff and a very hot Hiwatt.

  104. Dan says:

    Hi Bjorn!
    I was wondering if you had tried out the new op amp big muff reissue yet? If so, what did you think? Thanks.

  105. Lui says:

    Wow! Perfect score for the Green Muff… I just bought one for 80 bucks… I really didn’t need it, but such a great buy

  106. Brian T says:

    Has it ever been determined what his early muff was? 73#18 style? Violet? 73″47″?

  107. Raphaël says:

    Hi Bjorn!

    First of all, I’d like to thank you for all the fantastic work you’ve done for so many years! Gilmourish has always been my Bible to improve my David’s tone!
    As I’m a big fan of Pulse era, I purchased the Buffalo Patriot a few years ago. I must say I totally agree with your comments : I love this pedal!!
    Today, I plan to diversify my sound with a more “Ram’s Head-ish” tone.
    Your BigMuff buyer’s gear guide is very helpful but it doesn’t include the Buffalo M-1 for which you posted a very enthusiastic review in September 2016. How would you compare it with the Vick Audio 73 Ram’s Head?

    I’m looking forward for your reply!
    Thank you again for all your work on!!

    Best Regards from France!


    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Raphaël! Thanks for your kind words! Sorry for my late reply. The M1 is kind of based on that stacked tone with a Ram’s Head paired with a Powerbooster. Compared to a stand alone Ram’s Head, it’s slightly more saturated and smoother. It’s a matter of taste but it’s a really cool pedal. The Vick is fairly bright and it has a lot of gain but the added mid range boost makes it very versatile.

  108. Hey bjorn. I would like to hear your wise advise on a dilemma I’m facing. Here’s the thing: I own two Marshall amps, a jcm 2550 connected to a 2×12 orange cabinet loaded with vintage 30’s celestion speakers, and a 25 watts Sl5, so than means lots of mid range coming from them. That said, following your reviews I bought a Byoc large beaver triangle which I find, as you mentioned on its review, a bit too smooth compared to gilmour’s lead tone when he uses his ram’s head. I also have to mentioned that currently I have a fat’s 50s pick up fiitted in my fender strat bridge, so if not mistaken I guess that means even less aggressiveness from that pedal. Because of it I feel like there’s something missing in my pedalboard to achieve David’s legendary bigg muff tone, and because of that I wanted to ask you, having into account the gear mentioned above, which pedal would you buy if you had to choose between a BYOC large beaver ram’s head and a vick audio 73 ram’s head, which one would be more suitable?

    • Bjorn says:

      Always hard to give an exact answer when I haven’t played your rig but you’re right, the combination of the mid range boosted Marshall and the SSL5, will make certain pedals sound darker and more compressed. You can compensate to some extent by lowering the mids on your amp and making sure that you get the most headroom in your clean tones but those modern Marshall amps are not meant to sound like a vintage Fender :) A Ram’s Head in general is noticeably brighter and more aggressive sounding compared to a Triangle. The Vick has got a lot of gain so you might want to consider the BOYC for your Marshall, which has less gain and a more open character.

  109. ChrisD says:

    Hi Bjorn, have you had a chance to try the Big Green by Arc Effects, i was curious of your thoughts on it….and again thank you for everything you do for us….Chris

  110. Silvio says:

    Hi bjorn. I think this video can help those who have not yet understood which pedals are good for different types of amplifiers. Here in particular we can hear the difference in the sound of a big muff used on a twin fender amp and on a marshall, as we can hear the same difference if we use a sd-1 boss. Greetings.

  111. Silvio says:

    Hello Bjorn , new big muff EHX : Op amp big muff reissue 1978 !

  112. Really grateful that this is all here one of these days I’ll have to show you everything I build according to your website I’m at about 13 pedal strong

  113. worldofbachman says:

    This is SO USEFUL, thank you. I’ve been finding manufacturers and reviewers coyness about what each new fuzz is cloning maddening, and it’s great to have these two pages on Muffs and Fuzzes to work out what pedals are supposed to be sounding like.

    A question:

    I’m have the Nano Big Muff and the EHX Green Russian Reissue, but I’m interested in the Musket. Can that give me the tones of both the EHX pedals?

    • Bjorn says:

      Thanks for the kind words! I would say that the Musket is closer to the Green Russian, with a slightly more modern flavour. Not as much low end but you go a few extra controls to shape the tone. Very versatile and great sounding pedal. Whether or not you should go and get it as you already have the two other is up to you to decide :)

      • worldofbachman says:

        I definitely prefer the sound of the Green Russian Reissue, which I got just a week ago. The Nano Big Muff sounds fizzy and brittle in comparison, but I guess things that are louder and bassier often sound ‘better’ even if they’re not as useful… I think I’ll just have to get the Musket from somewhere where it’s returnable and make the comparison myself, but your response has made me decide it’s worth a try, so thank you.

        • worldofbachman says:

          So I got a Musket and I’ve got to say, as versatile as it is, it doesn’t sound much like either of my EHX Big Muffs. Great sound, and probably more ‘usable’, but might not be what I’m really after. I’ll keep it for a while to see if I get used to its differences, but I can’t quite justify owning three!

          Does the ‘Pre’ control work the same way as a booster in front of the pedal? It didn’t come with any instructions! (Maybe there’s some on their website…)

  114. Alex says:

    First off, excellent work on your site. The attention to detail and information is second to none. In your opinion, do you think a Green Russian would pair well with a fender hot rod deluxe 3? And if so, what pedal(s) would you recommend in combo with the Green Russian as a booster/overdrive? Thanks and keep up the great work.

  115. Maurice says:

    I did not like my Mooer Triangle Buff to much. But I tried it lately on 12v (which can be done according to manual), and the sound is much smoother and better. Makes the difference, on my pedalboard now.
    Great site!!!

  116. Ryan Leone says:

    Bjorn, what transistor muff model/clone does the best job of emulating the op-amp/ic muff model/clone or are they just too different? I sold my swollen pickle and would like to get a best of both worlds, which, I know is impossible (though green carrot pedals offers a two in one enclosure that would work.) Is it better to try say a ram’s head to emulate an op-amp muff or an op-amp to emulate a ram’s head or other transistor muff? Any info would be greatly appreciated and if there is any way of donating money to you let me know.

    • Bjorn says:

      EHX just released a reissue of the late 70s op-amp so check out that one. You’ll find a Paypal donate button one the blog and contact pages. Thanks!

      • Ryan Leone says:

        No problem; for you to reply to every single comment is amazing and should be rewarded with more than just a thank you. That said, thanks for the reply. And as far as the ehx new op-amp muff I’ve seen it but I’m thinking about getting the eqd hoof and just seeing if I could get that to be an all around versatile muff.

  117. Markus says:

    Hi Bjorn

    First of all, thanks a lot for all the work you’ve put in here. This is a really great website and I’ve learned a lot.

    I got an EHX Nano BMP last year but I’m a bit disappointed because I don’t get the smooth singing lead sounds out of it. I am playing a Standard Mexico Strat and a Standard Mexico Tele through a VOX AC15C1. I already tried many different settings and combinatios with my other pedals (Maxon OD808, BOSS BD-2 and MXR Carbon Copy Bright) but I am not able to reach the sound I’m dreaming of. The EHX Nano BMP always sounds much too aggressive, except for very low volumes.

    Now I’m thinking about buying either the Vick Audio 73 Ram’s Head or the EHX Green Russian BMP. Would this make sense to get a smoother sound? Which one would you recommend to get smooth lead sound with my bedroom setup?

    Looking forward to your answer!

    Thank you and best regards from Germany

    • Bjorn says:

      The current BMP has a much more scooped and more aggressive character than the 70s models and the 90s Sovteks. It’s just the nature of the pedal. You might want to check out the Green Russian reissue, which is considerably smoother and easier to set up for Gilmour’s tones. Be sure to check out this feature too for some tips on how to choose the right pedal for your amp.

      • Markus says:

        Thanks for your feedback, Bjorn! I already got the Vick Audio 73 Ram’s Head in the meantime and it works much better with my setup than the EHX Nano BMP. I figured out a setting to get a much smoother sustain: Guitar > Keeley Compressor Plus > VA 73 Ram’s Head > Boss BD-2 > MXR Carbon Copy Bright. It’s not really Gilmour’s sound but quite goods in its own way. I think I will have to look for new pick-ups in the long run.

  118. Seth Heaster says:

    Bjorn, I don’t know what to do. I have a modern reissue of the Big Muff. I have tried boosting it with a BD-2 before it, after it, not at all-everything. I’ve tried a ton of different settings on each and I just can not get a smooth, tight muff sound. It sounds super square wave and muddy. What do you recommend?

    • Bjorn says:

      Yoy’re pretty much describing the tone of that pedal. It’s very different from the early 70s ram’s head and mid 90s Sovteks that David’s been using over the years. What sort of amp and pickups do you have? Check out this feature for some tips on how to choose the right pedals for your amp and check out the Big Muff tone guide too.

      • Seth Heaster says:

        I run stereo. One side is a Peavy VT Classic. It’s a 50 W 2×12. That is more quiet than the other one because it’s my “rotary speaker”. The other is a Fender Stage 160. I play quite loud (volume on the Fender pushing 8) so I can get the warmth that you suggested. The pickups are the stock pickups in my MIM Fender Standard Stratocaster. I plan to upgrade them to Custom ’69s though I’m the future. I have read pretty much all of the articles on your sight to get as much information as possible. (By the way, fantastic sight. I think I suggested it before, but please do an article just on delay. How to use it like Gilmour, how to use it with reverb or how to imitate reverb, and specific settings for certain songs. That would be fantastic) Thanks so much for the help Bjorn!

  119. Hello Bjorn,

    I’ve been really loving your gear reviews. A couple questions:
    My current rig is Stratocaster/Tree Of Life/EP Booster/Diamond Halo/Echosex/MXR Script Phase 90/65 Deluxe Reverb Reissue

    I’m looking into the Effectrode PC-2A for compression.

    And I’m looking into something heavy, along the Muff lines. I’m looking for the creamiest “fuzz” type sound. The Analogman Sun Face and Sun Bender were not right. Is the Vick Audio Rams Head my best bet? Or maybe a Rat set right?

    Do you have any comments on my signal chain order?

    And, do you have a recommendation for David Gilmour music books? I much prefer standard notation to tab.


    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Jesse! I don’t think a Muff will be much better than what you’ve already tried. Fender amps and fuzz pedals doesn’t go that well together if you want David’s smooth and compressed tones. You’re probably better off with a Rat or OCD for those high gain tones.
      I’m sure you can track down most of the Floyd albums in tab books. Not sure if they still print them but EBay or Amazon is a good place to start.

  120. Romain says:

    Hi bjorn, thanks for your answer last time. I want you to see alh pedals. It’s a french fan of David Gilmour who builds pedals for nail David’s tone for a cheap price (nearly 120 euros). He reproduce the ram’s head, tube driver, color sound and many over… You should see that, it’s realy cool !

  121. Dimitris says:

    Vick Audio offer a full list of 4 different Muffs…
    Can’t get them out of my head!
    Pig Hoof, or Vick Audio Ram’s Head?

    • Bjorn says:

      Depends on what you’re looking for and how well your amp can handle scooped pedals. I would say the Pig Hoof for authentic mid 70s tones and the Vick for a more versatile and easier to set up version.

  122. Jeff Knudson says:

    Just curious if you ever did a “cheap” Gilmore pedalboard build guide for bedroom warriors

  123. Pouzi says:

    Hi Bjorn! Was wondering how you would compare Buffalo FX’s Patriot to EHX’s Green Russian? Cheers!

  124. Baris says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    Did you try Stomp Under Foot violet rams head? Ä°f yes, what do you think about it for Gilmourish sound?

  125. Andrew says:

    Hi Just watched your new EHX Green Russian re issue review, Brilliant and very helpful thank you.

    Have you heard the TC electronic Honey pot Fuzz and do you have an opinion on this pedal?

    Trying to decide between the two.



  126. Kirk says:

    Hello, not sure if you have been asked this before but have you’ve checked out the Nano Big Muff? I seen one on Guitar Center’s site.

  127. Daniel Contarini says:

    Hello Bjorn, I would really appreciate your help. I have a Fender Strato and a Fender Super Champ XD amplifier, and I want to buy a Muff but I have doubts about which one to buy because I know I need one that has more mids due to Fender. My current setup: MXR Dyna Comp, Tube Screamer, The Rat, OCD, Fat Boost, RT20, Elec Lady, Flashback delay, D-seed delay. I would also like to know which loop switcher you use or recommend. Thank you very much! Congratulations on your incredible work!

    • Bjorn says:

      Thanks! Not sure if a Muff would be the best option for your amp. They often sound bright and harsh on Fender amps. I think you’d be better off with the RAT and OCD for distortion tones. Having said that, I think the Vick 73 or 1861 with the mid range switch would be the best choice.

      • DANIEL CONTARINI says:

        Thanks for your kind reply. It´s a honour talk to you. I decided to keep my Rat and OCD like you said. Do you have some settings for them? I feel they´re very harsch and don´t have that “violin like” tone (maybe it´s my settings). I´d like to know also how would you use my setup (Tube screamer, OCD and Rat), in terms of boosting, and what of them would you use for distortion and for overdrive. Thank you very much!!

        • Bjorn says:

          Well, settings are tricky because it depends on the whole rig. Not just the pedals. A good starting point is to set the volume to unity with the straight signal from the guitar to the amp. I usually keep the tone around 9 or 10 o’clock and the gain set for whatever I need. But before you start though, always make sure you got the best platform coming from your amp. I use tube amps and like them clean but not too clean. A hint of breakup from the tubes makes them much better suited for pedals. Mid range and compression will often make pedals sound smoother but try to crank the volume control as well. The OCD sound much smoother with the volume set around 1 or 2 o’clock but it’s very loud too :)

  128. Francesco C says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    How much until the review of the new green russian?
    I surprisingly found it suitable for all the era, especially in combo with Mistress or Chorus.

    • Bjorn says:

      I’ll try to have it up by the end of the week.

      • dami11e says:

        Hi Bjorn

        This is great news. Very much looking forward to *your* review of it–many of the others don’t go as in depth as I would (personally) like them to.

        You mentioned in a previous comment that there appears to be a difference in the circuit–will you be able to address that in the comments of the video, if not the video itself? I can’t seem to find any information about the difference between the circuits.

        Really looking forward!

        • Bjorn says:

          I’ll have the review up within a day or two. The circuit is new, designed earlier this year, based on the tall font Green Sovtek, which is more or less identical to the Civil War. They did an amazing job!

  129. Meadowser says:

    Hi Björn, i’m having some trouble to decide what Muff clone will sound right with my setup, i’ll pair the pedal with Vick’s TreeOfLife and MooerEleclady along my Fender HotRodDeluxe.

    I’m really divided between the Vick’s ‘73 and the Pig Hoof clones that seems to have much more aggressive tone.

    All the best, Meadowser

  130. Gabriele says:

    Hey Bjorn! I just saw that BYOC has come out with a smaller, cheaper version of the Large Beaver, named Lil’ Beaver. It hasn’t got the tone switching knob (which is now 4-way on newer versions of the Large Beaver), but it still sounds great and identical to vintage Muffs in demo videos.
    Did you ever try one? What do you think about it?

  131. Ara says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    I’m thinking about getting the Power Booster to pair it with my Vic’s 73 Ram’s Head and/or B-FX Patriot and the Fire Bottle just for tone enhancement.
    I’m assuming I can use Power Booster with Vic’s 73 or B-FX Evolution that I use for clean drive. I use the TC Electronics Spark for clean boost, I would imagine Power Booster would be a much better replacement for the Spark!
    On the Fire Bottle review, do you literally mean first before Compressor or right after compressor? I have the Effectrode PC-2A.
    I’m also using the BK Butler Tube Drive for adding Midrange to my Fender amps and have it set for open smooth rhythm. would you recommend Fire Bottle for that and set the Tube Drive for light distortion solos.?
    I know there’s many ways to set them up, but I would like to know how would you set up and use these pedals in which order, to get the most sweet spot tone that they’ve been designed for.

    • Ara says:

      Hi Bjorn,

      I can summarize my question above as follows…

      If you had the following pedals playing through DG Strat and Fender Deluxe Reverb and Hod Rod Deluxe, which effect would be best to use each pedal for and in what sequence.

      My current chain setup and effect usage:
      – Pure Tone Dual Pro Buffer
      – CostaLab Compressor
      – BK Buttler Tube Driver (Mid-range Clean Boost)
      – Buffalo FX Evolution (Clean Drive)
      – VIck’s Audio 73 Rams Head (light distortion/Drive)
      – Bufallo FX Patriot (Muff, Sorrow Intro)
      – CostaLab Chorus
      – TC Elec Flashback X4 (Tape, Tube, 2290 Delay, Stereo Echo)
      – Boss RC-3 Looper

      Thanks a bunch,


      • Ara says:

        Forgot to mention…

        I’m planning to get:
        – Buff-FX Power Booster to replace mt TC Elec Spark for transparent boost
        – Fire Bottle to either replace Vic’s Audio 73 or use it for heavier distortion effect somewhere between Vic’s 73 and Patriot.

        I would truly appreciate your thoughts and your insights on where the sweet spot is on each pedal and how would you use them if you had my “set up”.


    • Bjorn says:

      The Fire Bootle is designed for passive single coils and to be placed between the guitar and the first pedal. The Powerbooster will work nicely with your pedals. Compared to the Spark Boost, it’s got more of that vintage flavour and a wider range of tones, from clean boost to near fuzz.

  132. Sylvain Vaillancourt says:

    hi Bjorn what advice for a big muff/fuzz
    my gear
    Fender american deluxe
    fender blues jr.(Eminence Cannabis Rex.)
    BOSS CS-3
    ibanez ts-808
    Okko Diablo Plus
    boss DS-1
    boss HM-2
    boss CE-5
    TC Electronics Flashback
    Thanks you. Sylvain

    • Bjorn says:

      I would look into one of the Vick Audio models, with the 3-way mid range switch, which comes handy for your amp. You’ll find reviews here on the site.

  133. CLOUET Romain says:

    Hi bjorn,

    Do you think the big hoof is a good combination with an OCD fulltone, Buffalo power booster and a Dr No evil mother fuzzer ? I have a actually an big muff tone twicker… Thank you

    • Bjorn says:

      I would go for the Buffalo. The OCD has too much gain. I haven’t tried the Dr No so I can’t really tell about that one.

  134. Clive says:

    Hey Bjorn, i’ve searched the net and cant quite get an answer to my question, I’m sure you or the dedicated readers here will know…. I’m about to build a Big Muff, I can go for the Civil War or Rams head (or even the VRH) BUT what I’m looking for is the sweetest, less fizzy least /fuzzy, creamiest, least harsh, least aggressive and least raspy muff (and I don’t care too much about masses of gain, I’m going into a beautiful Laney Lionheart 5W combo – bought after your recommendation!) which of all the muff’s do you think would fit this? Thank you!

    • Bjorn says:

      At the moment I’m using a Vick 1861 with my Lionheart L20 and it sounds amazing. Spot on, to my ears at least, to what you are describing. It’s a clone of the early 90s Civil War model.

      • Clive says:

        Thats Great Bjorn, thank you for the quick reply. I’d love to be able to buy one of the Vick pedals, but money says I have to build my own :( so I think from what you’re saying; its the Civil War that is sweeter and creamer will meet my needs then? Thank you!.

        • Bjorn says:

          Yes, I’d go for the CW.

          • Clive says:

            Interesting, looking at the Gear for the ‘new’ pompei gig the CW was used for Sorrow and the RH for comfortably, which to my ears is sweeter and less raspy than sorrow, I appreciate their setup could be very different but If I had to choose based on those two songs and their sounds I’d have chosen the RH!

            • Alexis says:


              I own the 73 Ram’s Head and the 1861 from Vick Audio too, and the 1861 is clearly the smoothest of them.

              If money is a concern, I can suggest the new EHX Green Russian Big Muff, I A/B’d it with the 1861 and they sound practically identical to me, except that the EHX has a bit more volume and is just a tiny bit darker in tone.



              • Clive says:

                Alexis, You’re a star, thank you for contributing and advice! To have someone who owns both is perfect. My mind is made up thanks to your input…I’m going for the Civil War!

              • Phil says:

                It’s probably due to the Civil War’s gain set to 100% and the Ram’s Head’s to maybe like 65, that you get the impression the CV sounds more raw. Comfortably Numb was colored by the Mistress though, so not sure how you could judge by that :P

                • Bjorn says:

                  The CW has less gain than the Ram’s Head so the setting differences makes up about the same amount of gain. There are distinct tonal differences between the two though. The Mistress will make Muffs sound a tad brighter and smoother.

  135. Elia says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    what do you think about Big Creamy Muff by Hedgehog Stomboxes?


  136. Kevin McCann says:

    Hi Bjorn! There’s a new EHX Green Russian Reissue out and I was wondering what is your opinion on that one. People claim they sound just like the original Civil War V2/Tall Font Green versions.

  137. Sheila says:

    Hello Björn

    many thanks for your wonderful site!
    I’ve been using the BYOC triange for a few years now with
    my band and I’m very pleased with it.
    I use it with a Peavey Classic 30, a Strat (SSL5+2xSSL1)
    and a Tele (“vintage” low output humbuckers).
    I don’t use any booster as the mid filter on the BYOC
    does wonder to tweak the tone I want, at least for our
    music style.
    We recently wrote songs that need more bite.
    I don’t like that much distortion boxes and I prefer by
    far the sound of ram’s head Big Muffs for nastier sounds.
    Any advice about the model that would suit well my taste
    and rig? The BYOC ram’s head seems to be a good choice…
    Could a ram’s head with a booster be tweaked and tamed to
    sound like a triangle Muff?
    Best regards,

    • Bjorn says:

      Depends on how much top end and harmonics you want. The ram’s head is the brightest sounding of the Muffs but your might also want to check out pedals like the Rat or the Buffalo FX Evolution for vintage tones but more grit and mid range.

      • Sheila says:

        Thanks for your help! In fact, I already have a Rattler+ and a modded DS-1 but every time I had one of them on my pedalboard next to the BYOC Triangle, I did not use it. Compare to the BYOC, the sound seems to me much less defined, less complex… I decided yesterday to uninstall the BYOC and bring back these two distortions so that I can no longer compare. I must admit that they did the job very well but still, there is this thing with the Muff…
        Also, I carefully read your review on the Evolution and listen to the demos, I found the sound pretty impressive. It seems richer than the Rattler but this might be only my impression…

  138. Elia says:

    Hy Bjorn,
    recently Electro Harmonix have a new product.
    It’s the Green Russian Big Muff.
    What do you think?
    Now with my guitar and other effect, i use a Bass Big Muff.
    Do you think that the Bass big muff have the same sound like the Green Russian Big Muff?
    I would buy it, but I do not know if it is the same.
    Thanks so much!
    Best regards

    • Bjorn says:

      I haven’t tried yet but from what I can understand it’s a new design based on the original so-called green Tall Font. It’s not the same as the Bass Muff.

  139. george says:

    The Wren and Cuff Box of War. A funny thing happened. I bought a box of war over a year ago and didnt like it. Ive been trying to move it on for a year and nobody wanted it, even really cheap. Id tried it a few times and just gave up. Watched Pompeii and thought, ok, one last try. Plugged it in yesterday and now it sounds great and it kicked my rams heads, so its no longer for sale. It just nails the gilmour sound, (stray from playing that though and its still a box of bees) Weird. Putting a vick overdriver after it works too, or just alone.

    I guess you could say I became comfortably numb.

    hahahaha And now theres a new version in a regular size, and im stuck with trying to fit the huge one on the board

  140. Hi Björn! I see you’ve got Costalab’s Custom Muff on this list, but i feel curious about how you’d compare it to their Sun and Moon Drive.

    Best wishes, Johan

    • Bjorn says:

      Haven’t tried the Moon so I can’t really comment on that. The Sun and Custom is very similar, with strong ties to the early Big Muffs. I guess the Custom is slightly brighter, with more of that vintage vibe to it. The Sun is darker, has more harmonics and it sounds great on lower volume as well as when you crank it.

  141. Pete W. says:

    Bjorn, here is another muff you should check out from ZenZero.

  142. Ara says:

    Hi Bjorn… I recently purchased Vick’s Audio 73 Rams Head, to get the tones that you have played in its review. I have tried your review settings with +/- of each setting, but I can’t even come close to creamy tone in your review which was the main reason I purchased pedal for.

    Pedals BEFORE: Pure Tone Dual Buffer (ON), Effectrode PC-2A (ON), B.K. Butler (ON/OFF), CostaLab Chorus (ON/OFF) Buffalo Fx Evolution (ON/OFF Clean Drive).
    Pedals AFTER: Buff FX Patriot (OFF), TC Elec. SPARK (ON/OFF).

    Any advise on pedals, settings, or ON/OFF, to get your review tone?

    • Bjorn says:

      What’s your amp and pickups?

      • Ara says:

        Sorry, forgot to mention that. I have DG Strat with Fat 50 neck, custom shop 69 middle, SSL5 bridge.

        I’m playing through Fender Hot Rod Delux on 3.5 and Special Edition Delux Reverb on 4.25, and Flashback X4 using either one of Tape/Tube/2290 delays.

        With ONLY Effectrode PC-2A Compressor ON and 9 vol/12 Tone/9 gain settings on Vick’s 73 Rams Head through X4 delay. I get somewhere between fuzz/distortion decent tone. Any other settings, is like few dozen angry bees flying around!

        I’m using the Buff FX Evolution and Petriot for clean drive and fuzz/distortion. I wanted to get clean creamy overdrive/sustain tone from the Vick’s 73 like in your demo.

        Note: The new model does not have the Pie logo on it, everything else is the same.

        Thanks again!

        • Ara says:

          Correction… I meant 9 Sustain on Vick’s Ram’s Head setting.

          • Ara says:

            I would like to add as FYI… the tone knob on Strat is at 10 and normally I get my tone with volume around 7, but with Vick 73 R’sH, bounce buffer and Effectrode Compressor, I can only go around 5 on Strat volume.

            I also use – mostly for solos – B. K. Butler TubeDrive to boost/equalize the midrange with gain 12, Hi 2, Low 12, and barely engage the tube around 8, few clicks after engaging the tube. I’ve also changed its tube to Old Sylvenia AU7A… color tube which makes the BKB somewhat tame able in bedroom setting.

            I also have CostaChros -which I love madly, that I have before Vick 73. But either ON or OFF it does not make much difference.

            Thanks a million…!

        • Bjorn says:

          Sorry for my late reply. I don’t really like to suggest settings because they can be very misleading. Unless you the EXACT setup as me, it won’t work. Not to mention how the gear sound in different rooms and environments. Based on what you write, your setup and settings looks fine. However, your amp is far from a Hiwatt, which is what David and I are using. Fender amps has less mid range and compression, which makes a Muff often sound brighter and less smooth. Check out this feature for some tips on how to chose the right pedals for your amp… hope you get some tips there :)

          • Ara says:

            Thanks Bjorn… I’ve read your write up many times and appreciate your through knowledge and explanation.

            I can move the 73 Ram after my Effectrode compressor – before BK Butler. Would it better to move the ChorsLab after it as well?

            I love my dual buffer which makes a huge difference in my tone. Would you recommend just use the front-end buffer only and not the back-end one.

            Thanks as always…!


            • Bjorn says:

              I would place the Muff after the compressor and the chorus after all of the gain pedals. Buffers are best placed first so that they can drive the signal through the pedals into the amp.

  143. Tom says:

    Hey Bjorn, did you heard about the new EHX reissue of the Sovtek Green Big Muff? I’m sure it will be an interesting pedal

  144. Victor says:

    Do you have any experience with the OneControl Baltic Blue Fuzz? It supposedly sounds similar to early big muffs.

  145. Christopher Hockey says:

    Hey Bjorn, I bought the Red Muck but it doesnt have enough bottom end or sustain for me. What would you recommend instead? Really looking for as much bass and as much sustain as possible

    • Bjorn says:

      The MojoHand Colossus has tons of low end and gain so I don’think there’s any other Muffs that’s as extreme as that one. Check out the Buffalo FX Patriot if you want something between the Red Much and Colossus.

  146. John says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    Have you ever tried the JHS 73′ Rams Head. I’m thinking about getting one and am interested in hearing your thoughts if you’ve tried it out.

    • Bjorn says:

      I haven’t tried it but I really like the RH circuit in the Muffuletta so if they’ve used the same approach, then it’s definitely worth checking out.

  147. Francesco C says:

    Hi Bjorn,since you named also cheap pedals like the Behringer, can I suggest one for you to try? I don’t know if you know the Moen Fuzz Moo, I got one and there are many demos on the net. I found it very similar to the Green russian for pulse tone and incredibly cheap for its sound. I’d like to have your opinion.

    • Bjorn says:

      Thanks for the tip!

      • -phil says:

        I 2nd the Moen Fuzz Moo (the older through-hole construction version) they have a newer version that’s in a smaller MXR size enclosure which I have not tried so I can’t tell you that they sound the same. I did contact the seller and was told that Moen has discontinued production of the older style Fuzz Moo and they confirmed that the newer one used SMD construction. I was interested in getting one of the older units because I had read that they were based on the Ram’s Head version of the BMP. My intention was to use it as a test bead for experimentation and socket some of the components to tweak it to my liking. Btw, I also have an EHX Green Russian reissue and have to say it has exceeded my expectations. It’s a really nice BMP and I have to give kudos to EHX for producing this version. I really like it. Back to the Fuzz Moo, I received one just a few days ago for about $42 shipped. Upon inspection of the circuit board I can verify that it is in fact built to the Ram’s Head spec “ballpark values” as out-lined on Kit Rae’s website. Additionally, they have used very good quality film caps and 5% resistors. I see no need to do anything to it but play through it. It sounds really good. Compared to the reissue Green Russian, the Fuzz Moo has a little bit more bite and a slightly (very slightly) more aggressive nature to it but is easily tamed with the tone control. I play in a Floyd tribute band “Texas Floyd” in the Dallas / Fort Worth area. I’ve been using the Green Russian reissue lately but am going to put the Moen on my board for the next gig as well. Great site Bjorn, an awesome resource for all things Floyd. Keep up the good work!

        • Bjorn says:

          Thanks for the kind words and for sharing!

          • -phil says:

            I have played several gigs with the big-box original version Moen Fuzz Moo and it is in my opinion a very good take on a Rams Head Muff. I still like my Green Russian Reissue though. Not necessarily better just different. Both of them have enough mid-range character to get the job done but as I had mentioned before the Moen seems to have a little bit more bite for lack of a better description. They did a good job with it.

            Just yesterday I came to own a Way Huge Swollen Pickle which looks to be a highly tweakable Big Muff with a lot of tone shaping capabilities.

            The video my wife took at one of our gigs doesn’t have the best audio quality though I could tell from the performance that the “tone was in the zone”.

            We’re playing again this weekend so maybe some good ones will show up.

            Will report back!

  148. Lou Sutil says:

    My favorites are the Thorpy of course and the Deluxe Big Muff… I actually replaced the muffaletta with the DBMP on my board… I definitely wouod like to know more Rams Head settings for the delixe big muff… I visited Kitrae’s website but he only has 1 violet rams head setting… sounds pretty good…but anybody out there have more rams head settings for the DBM? Thanks

  149. James Bettes says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    A poor man’s option if someone can pick up a small box black russian cheap enough and have some good soldering skills, is to version mod it to be more like the Ram’s Head. The Muff circuit is quite simple and schematics are easy to come by. All I had to do was change about a dozen (plus or minus) components to match the values of the Ram’s Head. Cost about $10 in parts and an hour or two of soldering. I didn’t change the transistors and don’t know how much difference that makes (but the gain factor was pretty close to the specs for RH transistors. While I have no frame of reference for exactly how a Ram’s head should sound, I do find it removed the boominess that made the small box Black Russian less usable for earlier Gilmour stuff and sounds much better (to my ears and on my setup) for reproducing Gilmour’s tone.

    I will soon acquire a BYOC Big Beaver or a JHS ’73 Ram’s head and will post back with comments when I can compare the two. At any rate for the DIYers it is a simple (and reversible) process.

    There is even a sight that has a schematic of the Ram’s head version that the author of the site feels most closely resembles Gilmour’s. Just search ‘Big Muff pages Gilmour’s Ram’s Head schematic’

    I’d put the link but don’t know what your policy is on that.

    • James Bettes says:

      I made it to the music store today and compared it to a JHS ’73 Ram’s Head. Overall the sound was pretty close (close enough to not be able to justify buying the JHS). However, when matching the amount of fuzz/breakup in the lower register, the high end of mine broke up more than the Ram’s head (clone), which stays much cleaner in the highs (perhaps a key to Gilmour’s tone). Going to experiment with the value of the coupling caps to get that dialed in and I think it’ll be pretty much exact. When I find the perfect formula I will post a recipe if anyone is interested.

    • Bjorn says:

      Feel free to post links :)

      • James Bettes says:

        Hi again Bjorn,

        I’m ordering a BYOC Large Beaver and will post some links for comparison when I get it built.

        So a question on Triangle vs. Ram’s Head builds: I am big on David’s wall tones and later. Which build (Ram’s head or triangle) would you recommend for a slightly darker sounding HIWATT Custom 50 (1×12 bulldog combo Biacrown era) that tends ot have a bit of a darker tone than some HIWATTS? I was thinking Ram’s head but after reading more on it (and that you prefer the Triangle) I now am wondering if the Triangle might be a better fit with my rig. I also pair it frequently with a Boss Blues Driver (which tends to be bright enough to break glass, even on my darker amp) but I plan to mod that soon to tame some of the brittleness (although won’t be changing values, only upgrading quality of some of the caps).

        Cheers again,

        • Bjorn says:

          I think I’d go for the Ram’s Head. I do like the triangle but the ram’s head has that aggressive character needed for that period. It also har a bit more gain and top, which I think will go nicely with your amp.

  150. Tyler says:

    Hey Bjorn, what do you think about joyo pedals. I’ve been using their voodoo octave and it sounds great to me. I don’t know how it stands up against the muff as I’m not that familiar with its sound. I would love to hear your opinion on this. Thanks!

    • Bjorn says:

      I haven’t tried the Voodoo but based on the reviews I’ve heard it sounds very much like a silicon fuzz, although the ram’s head logo sugguests that it is a Muff but I don’t think it is. I’ve tried a couple of the Joyo pedals and they all sound very good and considering the price I think it’s well worth checking out some of them.

      • Tyler says:

        Thanks for answering! What settings would you recommend for it? I’m using a Marshall 100DFX combo and a Jay Truser strat (not the best rig but it gets the job done).

        • Bjorn says:

          Again, I haven’t tried it so I can’t really tell. Depends on how the pots are set up and how much they offer. Usually, fuzz pedals tend to sound best with the volume slightly above unity for a bit of boost and depending on how hot the pedal is, I often keep the gain somewhere between 60-100%.

  151. Michael says:

    Hello Bjorn, first off your insight and knowledge is unbelievable! …Thus I visit your sight regularly. I’m building my rig off theses two ingredients: the Gilmour signature Strat (finally able to get it!) and a Morgan AC20 amp. This is a bedroom setup and I would be grateful for some direction – which muff would you recommend? And for that matter, your opinion for boost and compression? A very sincere thank you!

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Michael, thanks for your kind words! I haven’t tried the AC20 myself but as far as I know, it’s based on the old Vox amps. Perhaps not the ideal amp for a Muff… at least not with Gilmour in mind. I think I’d I’d go for one of the Vick Audio models, which has the mid range boost option that’s needed for Vox amps. You might also look into something a bit more versatile, like a Vick Audio Tree of Life, Fulltone OCD or the a RAT (or clone). They will give that classic tone, with more compression and mid range, which will suit the amp perfectly. I’d prioritise a delay and perhaps an overdrive before a booster and compressor.

      • Michael says:

        Thank you Bjorn. Already putting our advise to good work with the RAT, and it sounds amazing!! Could you recommend a good compressor, booster, and overdrive that might pair well with my Strat and Morgan amp as well? Sorry for the questions it’s just that your insight is spot on!! And by the way thanks for the various videos your playing is excellent!

  152. Adam says:

    Hi Bjorn, I’m looking to buy a Big Muff and I’d like to hear your opinion. There’s only a few select pedals I have in mind because unfortunately, living in Canada there’s not many Canadian sites that have wide selections of pedals, and with the exchange rate, the shipping costs on non-Canadian sites get expensive pretty quickly. I play a Strat with custom wound pickups that have specs similar to the pickups on those relic Black Strats, and my amp is a Blues Jr II. I’m mainly interested in getting the tones Gilmour got in the 70s, so that’s why I was interested in getting something like the Vick Audio 73 Ram’s Head, but considering the exchange rate to order from US sites, and with the shipping costs and everything, that’s a bit out of my budget. The pedals I had in mind were the Mooer Triangle Buff, North Effects Red Ram, and any of the current stock EHX Muffs, like the Tone Wicker, Bass Big Muff, Little Big Muff, or any of the other current EHX models.

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Adam, Fender amps are not ideal for a Big Muff because the pedal needs quite a bit of compression and mid range to get that smooth fat tone. Still, the Blues Jr is your best option within the Fender family. I really like the North Effects stuff but do also check out the EHX Bass Muff. It’s very close to the old Sovtek circuit and by far the best sounding of the current EHX series.

      • Adam says:

        Thanks for the reply. Do you have any recommendation for which North Effects pedal would be best for my setup? The Red Ram caught my eye as it’s meant to be a clone of the original Ram’s Head, but I also saw your review here of their Violet Ram, but you only gave that a 5/10 for small combos/low volume. Do you have a reccomendation between these two for a Blues Jr? Or maybe I’d be better off with the EHX Tone Wicker, Bass Big Muff, or the Mooer Triangle Buff?

        • Bjorn says:

          Between all of these I’d go for the Bass Muff. Thing about ram’s, violet and triangle is that they don’t have that much mid range and the tone is fairly bright, which can make them sound pretty harsh on small Fender amps. Ideally I’d go for something a bit more verstaile that a Muff but the Bass Muff is probably your best choice.

  153. Johan says:

    Hi Björn!
    All do we love the tones from PULSE, my favourite being Comfortably Numb in particular. I’ve read your setup-guide on what pedals David might have used on the tour, and one thing always strikes me, the fact that he’s using a Sovtek B-M boosted with a Tube Driver (Volume Boost).
    For many of us that’s a fact, but i got a bit confused over the fact that the Sovtek seems listed as the dominating distortion unit for that particular song.

    Because whenever i hear that heavenly solo, a Muff never comes to my conclusion. The tone sounds so silky and creamy, nothing that i’ve heard out of a Muff before. But the pedal is still boosted slightly, so do you think that makes up for it? Also, do you think the tone is achieved by massive compression from the pedals and the amps? Maybe also from the electronics on David’s guitar?

    Cheers from one of your yellow-blue neighbours in the east! ✌

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi, it’s the combination of the Muff, the Hiwatts and loud volume that’s the key to David’s smooth Muff tones. The Hiwatts has the compression needed to smooth out that square wave Muff and the mid range to add the much needed presence. The fact that he playes loud, will also make the tubes and speakers produce even more compression and mid range. On lower volume and amps with less compression and mid range, like a typical Fender, Muffs will sound thinner and perhaps even a bit harsh. The Tube Driver is placed after, much like an EQ and he doesn’t really boost that much but rather use the TD like a tone enhancer, adding a bit of mid range and presence.

  154. Alexis says:

    Hello Bjorn!

    Any chances you’ll get your hands on the new Vick Audio 1861? They say it is based on the Civil War Big Muff.
    I’m looking for a CV Big Muff to nail the PULSE tones and I know you love the Patriot, but between the TD-X, Evolution, Boss CS-2 and Vick Audio 73 Ram’s Head, the gain section of my pedalboard starts to be cramped! :D
    So if the 1861 and Patriot are fairly similar, the friendly footprint of the Vick Audio effect could be my choice.



  155. Brand new to your site today (courtesy of That Pedal Show recommendation) and enjoying it immensely! This is an incredibly comprehensive list of Muff tones and therefore very useful. Only one downside, after reading my inner gear addict is once more awakened…

  156. Don says:

    I really should’ve just took your word for it , but I had to buy both and compare.The Mooer Triangle Buff is much, much smoother than the Big Muff Pi Tone Wicker. I tried a half-dozen times to convince myself otherwise, but after many hours of playing and trying every conceivable setting, the Mooer won every time. Time consuming testing, but at least I don’t have to wonder anymore. Mooer products have really blown me away everytime I use them.

  157. Lui says:

    Best soundig Muff on the list is the Thorpy without a doubt. And the best bang for your buck is the Deluxe Big Muff… it says you can recreate almost every other muff tone with impressive accuracy… I don’t know aboht that though… I’ve been able to get triabglr and rams head tobes oh and also some sovtek tones but Kit Rae’s website only has about 4 conparisons… I wish they would put more deluce big muff settings so people can see how versatile it is!
    For the price it is the original and in many ways the best sounding one if you find the sweet spot… but the active EQ on the Thorpy is very hard to beat… you can keep as much low end and add high wnd and keep both… unlike the tone knob that either makes it darker or brighter… but the deluxe muff has a bass boost that adds tobs of low end! And also the attack knob is amazing! It blends your original signal to add your original attack… makes it great to play chords or just keep everything clear and articulate. The muffetta I did not like… the rest are all ok, they are great pedals… except the Velvet Fuzz… it sounds great on its sweet spot but I have found that many pedals sound different , not very constant. Also, it only has the Gilmour tone, you can’t do many other fuzz tones.
    Buy the Thorpy if you have the money and already own other original Big Muffs, if not but the Deluxe Big Muff, you will be impressed.

  158. I’ve used a Wampler Velvet Fuzz for a while. I think it gets much closer to the Eric Johnson sound than the Gilmour sound. I wish it had a working tone knob. As it is, the tone knob is much more of a decoration than something that really shapes the sound.

  159. Mathias says:

    Hi Björn,

    Thanks for many hours of reading.

    I really want to nail the tone in Marooned. I’ve tried many combinations on my set-up but I can’t find the right tone.
    Do I really need at Fuzz or Big Muff? Hope you can help.
    EJ strat + fender 57 deluxe amp. + Pro Co RAT and TS808 + T-Rex Replica.

    Kind regards Mathias

    • Mathias says:

      ..Sorry. -What I think i’m trying to ask you about is if I should try either a Buffalo fx TD-X or the Evolution as you recommend. Thanks.

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Mathias! For the recording of the song, David used his red Strat with the EMG pickups into a combination of a Hiwatt and Fender Bassman. Effects were a compressor, Tube Driver and delay. I would go for something similar, like a Fulltone OCD or Boss BD2. I think the OCD will be the closest, given your amp. A Muff, fuzz or, in your case a RAT, is a bit too much for this song.

  160. Alex says:

    Hi Bjorn! First of all, thanks for all your hard work, and making life much easier for us, “D” fans. Tnx my friend. I have just one question for you. Should you recommend me to buy buffalo fx patriot (in small box) for Pulse and Delicate sounds? Is less box, less sound in this case? I can buy it for about 150 euros. Do you think it’s fair price for that kind of pedal? Do I need some kind of booster? You said that it’s the same circuit, but I just wanted to check if it’s sonically different. I trust you. Greetings from Belgrade. Thanks.

  161. Nicholas says:

    Hi Bjorn! Happy New Year! Thank you once again for taking time to answer all our questions and what not. I’m days away from ordering a Big Muff Clone but am stuck once again when it comes to which one to get. I’m looking at the Jam Pedals Red Muck, the Buffalo FX Patriot, the Buffalo FX Rams Head and the Vick Audio. The thing is, I live Cyprus so I have all Jam Pedals readily available at music stores here, so I can easily go and pick up a Red Muck tomorrow, after having tried it and bargained a price and I don’t have to pay any postage or anything… If I want to buy one of the other three, I have to order them from the US which means expensive postage. Do you think the three I’ve mentioned are significantly better than the Red Muck so that it would make sense to get one of those or would the Red Muck cover all my needs (to be able to have a Muff Clone to cover all of Davids Muff tones)? In other words, is it worth ordering a pedal online and waiting for it to arrive and all that hassle or is the Red Muck fine? I use a Fender Strat with a Peavey Bandit amp but am looking to replace the amp at some point in the near future. I have a Boss Blues Driver and a Tube Screamer as overdrive pedals. Thanks for replying in advance!

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi, first of all I’m not sure of your Bandit amp is the ideal amp for a Muff. You mention that you will replace it and I’m sure you can get some decent tones with some tweaking but I wouldn’t expect a Muff to sound as smooth and big as with some better suited amps. All of the Muffs you mention sound great so it’s more a matter of nuances and which Muff voicing you prefer. The Red Muck is kind of a mix between a triangle and Sovtek, which will provide some musical and smooth tones.

      • Nicholas says:

        Thanks for you reply! I will be going abroad to study very soon and so will either buy a Laney Cub or a Blues Jr to have in my room. My main concern is if the Red Muck will be able to get The Wall, the Final Cut and Animals tones. Also, do you think that the tube Screamer or the blues driver would be better to boost a muff?

        • Bjorn says:

          For Muff tones, I’d go with a Cub. And yes, the Red Muck will get you there. for boosting I’d go with a Tube Driver or somthing similar, like he Boss BD2. A Tube Screamer has lots of mid range and compression, which often makes a Muff sound choked and too dark.

          • Nicholas says:

            Will do! Thanks for the advice. I went and tried the Red Muck yesterday and played around with it for a while and it really is a great pedal. I am going to buy it on Saturday. What did you do to get Floyd tones out of it?

  162. Sutil says:

    Very dissapointed how the Fallout Cloud is rated… 8 out of 10 is not bad, but relative to the other pedals rated here, it seems a little biased.
    The Thorpy pedal is defintwly hands down the best sounding pedal on this list…. but oh well, what do I know?

    • Bjorn says:

      Says who? All my reviews are subjective and based on my opinions alone. I’m sure not everyone agrees but I can’t give a pedal full score just because someone claim it’s the best. Tone is subjective and that’s why I always tell everyone to cross reference my reviews with others to get more opinions.

  163. Manolo says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    I really enjoy your reviews! I was wondering what you think about the Dirty Beaver Rams Head. I’m considering buying it but I’m not sure. You should make a review on it. I would really appreciate it.

  164. Jack says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    What a great site you have. I have a few questions for you.
    I’m building a new pedalboard with a lot of varieties of pedals.
    my setup is Fender with DG 20, Dunlop Wha, Boss CS-2, Soothsayer, Buffalo TD-X, Bad Monkey, Drybell Vibe, Mooer Fanger, Nova Delay-1, Boss CE-3, Boss RC-3, Fender Twin red button. I am a living room player.
    I’m looking for a good Muff for the Gilmour sound DSOTM/PUlSE/GDANSK.
    I know I come close with the Soothsayer and TD-X .
    But stil I am looking around for a good Muff that go with my Fender Twin.
    The Musket and the Costa Lab sounds and seems good or are there better choises.
    So what is your advice.?
    What do you think of my setup?

    Greetings Jack

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Jack! As you may know, Fender Twins and Muffs can be a challenge as Muffs often need a bit of mid range and compression to sound smooth, and the Twin doesn’t have much of either. A Sovtek model, like the Buffalo Patriot, might be your best choice but I think you’re better off with the Soothsayer. To be very honest…

  165. Paul Cousineau says:

    Hello Bjorn

    Thank you so much for all your effort in posting such great information .

    Based on your recommendation I have recently purchased a Blackstar HT 20 head. I love it very much . But I have a problem with my Vic audio ram head.

    Before I played it in a very little cheap amp with 8 inch speaker and it sounded really good to me . Now I’m having trouble getting the same bite and Throughty character. I’m playing at bedroom level maybe I should have gone for the Ht 5 instead? Or maybe that my cab is not the right one . My head is connected to a Peavey 4 x 12 cabinet . I’m thinking of getting something smaller do you think it would help?

    Any comment would be appreciated thank you very much .


    Hull Quebec.

    • Bjorn says:

      What sort of amp did you have? Have you replicated the setting from your old amp? The Blackstar has a typical Marshall tone, with lots of mid range and compression, which can make some Muffs sound bright and too aggressive. Try back down the treble and mids on your amp and experiment with both the clean channel and gain channel, keeping the gain low on the gain channel. You probably want the master volume lower than the channel volume but again, experiment.

  166. Aaron says:

    Hi Bjorn! Fan of your work for ages now. Wondering if you might be able to suggest a Muff/clone/kit to me as I have a knack for picking the wrong one. Started with the slim black Russian (kept the wooden crate) and now I’m on a Little Big Muff. My Strat is an all stock (except for the block) MiM 50’s Classic, amp is a ’65 DRRI and I have a Soul Food or an MXR Wylde OD at my disposal as well. Ideally I’d be looking at something in the same price range as a Soul Food… I know you’re likely a busy fellow but I’d really appreciate if you could point me in the right direction.

  167. Trevar says:

    Hi Bjorn, about to step out of the modeling amp world and into tube amps. Going to most likely pick up a Fender Blues Jr. and swap speaker to a Cannabis Rex or a Thames. Was hoping you could steer me into the right direction with pedals with that amp, as I am seeing most stores don’t carry a lot of these. Looking into: Compressor- undecided, Univibe- Drybell Vibe Machine, Phaser- MXR Phase 90 script, Muff- maybe 73 Rams Head or Electronic Orange Pig Hoof, Boost- TopTone Shine Boost, Tube Driver- Buffalo FX TD-X, Mooer ElecLady, and Analogman EHX Deluxe Memory Man. Will these choices work or are there better options for my setup? Using a Strat and Tele and strictly a home player. Finally should those pedal cover most of Floyd and Bjorn territory or is there something I am missing or do not need? Muff choice has got me the most confused. Thank you in advance for any wisdom!

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Trevar, for the Blues Jr I’d go with the Cannabis. The amp is very bright so for David’s tones, you’d want to tame that top end a bit. The Thames would be all too bright. Your choice of pedals should go nicely with the amp. Muffs often sound bright and harsh on Fender amps, although they do sound better with the Blues Jr. I’d look into a more versatile distortion, like the Fulltone OCD, Buffalo FX Evolution or similar. The TD-X, as an overdrive goes nicely with the Blues Jr.

  168. Jesse says:

    Could you tell me what you think of the Stone Deaf Fig Fum? Also what do you think of the Vick Audio Violet Ram’s Head clone? Will that do as good as the Pig Hoof?

  169. Richard says:

    Hi Bjorn. It’s haunting me; what do you think/know that David is using during Sorrow at the Strat Pack concert? It sounds very crunchy, I would say the G-2? Thanks, Richard (Looking forward to your new album by the way!)

  170. Chris says:

    Hey Bjorn,
    As mentioned in all the replies, you have created a great review of pedals here. I am a huge Pink Floyd and smashing pumpkins fan, and love the Pulse, and Siamese Dream albums tones. I have owned several different muffs as well as other fuzz pedals. I am very close to making the jump on the Vick audio 73′ rams head for starters, to hopefully get the range of Floyd I desire, but I’m still up in the air about the Smashing Pumkins Siamese Dream sound. Billy Corgan used the mid 70’s op-amp circuit big muffs. These are hard to come by, and seem to tend to be plagued with issues requiring them to be in the repair shop. I have found a couple “clone” type pedals that seem pretty accurate, but just wondering if you have had the opportunity to try them out for yourself. The first is DAREDEVIL PEDALS ’77 IC OP-AMP FUZZ V5 CREAM/VIOLET. Really good video by Chicago music exchange and accurate sounding pedal, but I came across another, Wowpedal “Hello Meow”- Analog. Opamp. Fuzz. Big Muff Pi Fuzz. The tone in the video seems pretty accurate, but the video is short, there is no narration, and there is very little info to be found on the company. I like this pedal as well due to its size. It’s smaller like the Vick Audio (MXR size) which is ideal for me as I am trying to minimize the pedalboard I use and the smaller the pedal without compromising the tone characteristics the better.

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Chris! The OP-amp Muff has never been a favourite of mine, so I don’t have much experience with trying different clones etc. I know the Sovtek Muffs are probably your closest match and, as you probably know, a lot of the early 90s grunge bands used these. There are lots of great clones out there, like the Buffalo FX Patriot and you might want to check out the Skreddy Rust Rod as well, which is somewhat similar to the OP-amp and Sovtek. The Vick will come close but it’s a ram’s head and the overall tone is brighter, with less low end.

  171. Jack says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    As first what a great site you have.
    I’m looking for a muff, my setup is: Fender strat EMG DG20, Dunlop wah, Boss CS2, Columbus Dist., Buffalo TD-X, Bad Monkey, DryBell Vibe, Boss C3, TC Nova Delay, Boss RC 3, Fender The Twin Red button.
    Bedroom settings.
    Now my question what for Muffs would you advise For DSOTM/ Delicate/ Pulse sounds ?

    Greetings Jack

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Jack, sorry for my late reply. I usually recommend something differnt for Fender amps, as their lack of compression and mid range, can often make a Muff sound bright and harsh. The Sovtek Muffs works OK, so check out the EHX Bass Muff and other Sovtek/Civil War Muff clones. You might also want to look into more versatile pedals, still with a Muff flavour, like the Rat, Buffalo FX Evolution etc.

  172. Velanga says:

    Hi Bjorn! I’m having a little problem with volume and I wonder if you can help. At the moment I’m using a Fender Stratocaster 70’s reissue with stock pickups into a Hartke GT60 and I recently bought a Ibanez TK999OD to run as Gilmour’s Tube Drive and a CostaLab Custom Fuzz. The volume between the TK999OD and the Amp it’s pretty easy to match, but when I turn on the CostaLab it just get TOO loud. If I turn the TK999OD with the Custom Fuzz, sounds amazing, but the volume blows the roof off. The GT60 has a Effects Loop in and out, at the moment I’m plugging booth drives in front of the amp. How do I control the volume between clean, TK999OD and the Custom Fuzz?

    • Bjorn says:

      Is the fuzz placed after or before the Ibanez?

      • After. One Thing that I’ve noticed it’s that this Costalab is freaking noisy. I figured it out that somehow, the volume knob was replaced with the distortion know, so I was turning down the distortion and turning up the volume, that’s why the volume was SO loud. But I still having issues with that muff. I don’t know if all the muffs are that loud or there’s something wrong with mine, but it captures so many noises and make it impossible to leave my hand of the guitar neck without turning the volume off.
        I didn’t find any article about amps FX output. Do you use it?

        • Bjorn says:

          But you’re using the TK to boost the fuzz? Keep in mind that stacking two or more gain pedals will create some noise, depending on how much gain each pedal has. It’s just the nature of things. The TK also has a lot of mid range and compression, which is not ideal for stacking. Try using a more scooped and cleaner pedal for boosting, like a TC Spark Booster, BD2 or a Powerbooster clone.
          Check out this feature for some insights on the FX Loop.

      • The fuzz is placed after the OD. I finally figured out that the knobs are miss placed, so the Volume is the right knob and the distortion it’s in the left. But it`s still so freaking noisy and I don’t know if is it normal or the pedal have some king of issue. When I turn the Fuzz on I feel like I woke up a wild beast, I have to immediately turn the guitar volume down and only turn it up if I`m sure that I’ll play right after. Two more questions….do you use the Effects loop on your amp and any chance that you’ll do the settings and setup from the Rattle That Lock album and tour?

  173. Chris says:

    Hey Bjorn, ever have a look at the Daredevil Pedals Black Yorba Fuzz? Handmade in Chicago IL and based on the green, “bubble font” Sovtek. Only demos online are in the stoner rock/metal realm, but it looks like a good bet and for cheap (they’re going used on Reverb for < $100 USD).

  174. Nicholas Love says:

    Hello Bjorn! Quick question for you… I’ve been through a lot of Muff clones before finally getting a RH-X and a Patriot. I’m now fully converted to Buffalo FX. Probably my favorite thing about their muffs is how powerful but articulate they are. Steve seems to have a phenomenal understanding of how to maintain tonal clarity even under high gain. I’m always looking for new muffs, of the ones you’ve tried, are there any others that share these characteristics?

    • Bjorn says:

      I’ve always been a huge fan of the Electronic Orange Pig Hoof. It’s been my main Big Muff for years. It’s got that same huge character but lots of harmonics and nuances as well. It’s very scooped though, which can be a drawback on some amps. I also think Skreddy makes some amazing stuff and the Rust Rod is, for me, right up there with the best.

      • Nick Love says:

        Thanks for the tip! One of my favorite Muff tones is the solo on Your Possible Pasts. I’ve had some trouble getting that tone with many of the mids-boosted muffs, so I think the Pig Hoof should be the next stop because the scoop may be just what I need to get this sound. I am using a strat into a Laney Lionheart 50 and I usually just use a muff and a Nova Delay.

  175. Dimitri says:

    HI Bjorn! Thanks for your amazing site. I love all the great info. I was wondering why no Stomp Under Foot stuff is listed at all on this page? They make really goof muff clones.

  176. armand says:

    Hello you don’t talkie-walkie about noise level for the buffalo fx evolution.
    Have you got news about the buffalo fx m1for guilmour sound ?

  177. ronnie says:

    hi Bjorn i been reading your review on clone pedals trying to get the sound of vintage pedals i have a couple of good boutique clone pedals like big muff rams head russian green muff that i purchased on reading your reviews that you recommend im very happy with this pedals they work very well but i have couple of vintage pedals 1974 rams head 1990 civil war 1994 russian green muff 1978 electro harmonic deluxe flanger now since 2 years i have been trying the clone pedals v vintage pedals and to my taste the sound that i get from the vintage pedals is a level higher but clone pedal will always be on my pedal board but if i want david gilmour sound to be the closest match il go with my vintage pedals if one day you have the chance to see the wall theatre experience it is a group hear in canada quebec i recommend thanks for reading

  178. Eric says:

    Hi Bjorn. Do you know when you will be doing a demo of the Buffalo M-1. In pursuit of a muff/fuzz, and really interested in this pedal. Thank you Eric

  179. jj says:

    Bjorn, perhaps this has already been asked & answered but I couldn’t find it in any of the comments. What is your opinion of Wren & Cuff’s Violet World? What score would you give it, assuming you’ve tried it? Thanks in advance for your time!

  180. Regan says:

    Hi, curious to know your thoughts on Basic Audio’s Tri Ram Muff? : )

    • Bjorn says:

      Haven’t tried it :)

      • Nick Love says:

        To Regan – I have that muff. I think it’s overall very good. Pretty articulate, but it can be dark compared to others. Also, INCREDIBLY loud. I have to set my RH-X at about 70% to match the Tri Ram Muff at about 30%. I think it’s a good pedal, but not maybe the best available at that price point. My main complaint is that is seems to lack a certain harmonic sweetness that other clones I’ve played (VA 73 Ram’s Head, TopTone DG-1, Blackout Effectors Musket, Buffalo FX RH-X) have.

  181. Jacob Allen says:

    Hey Bjorn! I thought I would stop by again to ask you opinion on how you feel about the EQD Hoof vs the Mojo Hand Iron Bell.

    I have been building a board for the last couple years. It’s sort of a hybrid between Jimmy Page and David Gilmour’s style. I had been sold on the Iron Bell for my muff tones, and bought the pedal. It sounds great! Now I’m near the end of my journey and I recently heard the samples of the Hoof. I bought a Tone Reaper to cover some tone bender tones and I know that the Reaper and the Hoof play nice because they are packaged together. In your opinion, is the Hoof much better than the Iron Bell or do you think I should just stick with the Iron Bell? I tend to like Gilmour’s later tones (90s, Pulse, Island) if that helps any. Thanks again for always answering my questions with thoughtful responses.


    • Bjorn says:

      They’re two different pedals. Obvisouly, both are based on the Big Muff circuit but the Hoof has a more vintage flavour, with more of those fuzz harmonics, less mids and compression. The Iron Bell is kind of a mix between a Muff and a Rat, which is what you get when stackig a Muff with an overdrive. A bit more modern sounding compared to the Hoof.

  182. gabriel tate says:

    Will you be reviewing the new Buffalo FX M1 pedal? I am going to buy one. I can mail you mine to review if you will mail it back. Im in the US

  183. Nicholas Love says:

    Hello! I have another question, this one pedal related. I have a Laney Lionheart and a Mesa Boogie Lonestar Classic combo. I love the Mesa for it’s cleans and pedal friendliness, but I’m currently using a 73 Ram’s Head from Vick Audio, which, to me, is a dark sounding muff. The Lone Star Classic is also a very bassy amp, so when i run the two together I get a very boomy muddy sound compared to when I run it through the Laney. Of the muffs you’ve reviewed, which one would be the best for a dark amp? You described the Skreddy P19 having a “hollow throaty” sound. Would that be the best one to get more definition and a have a less muddy character? Or would the Blackout Musket be a better option with it’s focus controls? Thanks so much and keep up the great work.

    • Bjorn says:

      I don’t have much experience with the Lone Star but I use the Vick 73 with the Lionheart, which I run very dark, and it sounds really nice. To me, the Vick is a bright Muff, with a scooped tone and lots of top end, which is the nature of most Ram’s Heads. You could try the Blackout Effector Musket, which has a very cool presence control or the Skreddy Rust Rod, which has a nice upper mids boost.

  184. Fran Henarejos says:

    Hi Bjorn
    I have a vick audio 73 ram´s head and a Boss BD-2 but i cant make it sound good, sounds too saturated and noisy even when i turn down the guitar volume.
    what can i do to make the muff sound better?

    btw i love your site :D

    • Fran Henarejos says:

      I Have a Fender MIM Stratocaster and Vox vt80

      • Bjorn says:

        Sorry for my late reply. The Vox amps aren’t that suited for Muffs. At least not for replicating David’s tones, as you need quite a lot of mid range. I would use either the flat or boosted mids mode on the 73 and be careful with the amount of gain. It shouldn’t be set any higher than around 60%. Try to set the amp as clean as possible and roll back the treble if you get any harshness. If it doesn’t work, you might want to consider a more versatile pedal for your amp, like a Rat or OCD type of pedal. Check out the Overdrive and Distortion Buyer’s Guide for more.

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Fran! What amp and pickups do you have?

  185. Hrvoje says:

    Hi Bjorn, I bought recently new JHS Muffuletta after I read review on your web site. So thanks for all info and review. Just want to know which settings you prefer and which mode you think is most useful to replicate Dave’s Muff sound? I would appreciate for all your suggestions and tips. I will combine it on strat with Dave’s pickups, and till few days I had only Marshall amp, and now I purchased Hiwatt head with 2×12 hiwatt cab ( purple Fane speakers ). Thanks for all! Regards from Croatia.

    • Bjorn says:

      Although Dvaid used a Ram’s Head Muff for the Delicate period, I think I’d use either the Sovtek or JHS modes, which has a bit darker and mid rangy flavour. Settings depends very much on your pickups and how you set the amps, but a good start is to set the volume to unity with the amp, tone around 10-11 o’clock and the gain fairly moderate.

  186. Andrew says:

    Hi Bjorn!
    Really excellent site and article!! Incredibly informative. I’ve been a big fan of David’s tones for years, and it is a sound I aspire to capture, and a massive part of that sound is the Muff. I’ve owned a few Muffs over the past few years, but never been able to crack the particular sound I was after. Closest I’ve gotten was probably the Little Big muff, which like you, I prefer to the current standard big muff, which I really didn’t like at all. Too boomy and dark and choked sounding with probably too much gain for my taste. I also currently use a Maxon OD808 which I really love, and I’m considering trying their OD9 overdrive too. But anyways back to the main topic. I’m esentially looking for a more articulate and controlable muff with a tighter low end, really clear midrange with great detail, and definition, and crispy top end like a ram’s head (I guess that is my main reference for good muff tones). So I guess what I’m after is a ram’s head with a tighter, clearer sound with more clarity, and definition on each note. Not looking for anything dark, boomy, or remotly choked sounding. I primarily play a Standard Strat with EMG SAs (best tone upgrade I’ve made yet, love them). My favorite Gilmour sound(s) is probably the wall period and the post-Roger era studio and live albums, especially the late 80s stuff. from what I’ve read so far it seems like the Drivegate DG-1 might be up my alley, but I’m not sure… so many muffs out there!! Lol Any suggestions or replies would be super appreciated!!
    Thank you! :)

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Andrew… What sort of amp do you use?

      • Andrew says:

        Fender Blues Junior III

        • Bjorn says:

          Sorry for my very late reply, Andrew. Although the Blues Jr has more mid range and compression than most Fender amps, it can make Muffs sound pretty bright and harsh. Especially models like the Ram’s Head, which has a very scooped mid range tone. The best Muffs for Fenders that I’ve played, are the Vick Audio 73 Ram’s Head, which has a mid range booster or, the Mojo Hand Iron Bell, which is kind of a mix between a conventional Muff and a more modern distortion. You could also go for something a bit more versatile, like the Buffalo FX Evolution.

  187. David Du says:

    hi, bjorn, I heard Electro Harmonix Germanium 4 Big Muff has 4 Ge tube, so it’s more like a fuzz pedal rather than a big muff, so could it be the good pedal for DG’s fuzz replacement?

    • Bjorn says:

      I guess so. Closer to the early pre-Dark Side era.

      • David Du says:

        got it
        but the best way should get a real fuzz face with Ge tube, right?

        • Bjorn says:

          Depends on what type of germanium tone you want. I think the AnalogMan Sun Face NKT275 is the closest you get to the classic Dallas Arbiter Fuzz Face from the late 60s but there are a million variations on that tone. The EHX Germanium Muff does a nice job.

  188. Hershel says:

    Hi Bjorn, I was wondering if the tc electronic spark would be a good booster to accompany either the Vick audio Rams head or the JHS muffuletta and if so what would would be appropriate eq settings?
    -Thanks, Hershel.

    • Bjorn says:

      I don’t think neither of those needs boosting as you can either choose a mode or setting that has more mids and gain. Still, the Spark is a nice clean booster, which should fit nicely. Which EQ mode you should use, depends on your pickups and amp. Scooped pickups and amp, would require a bit more mids to get that silky smooth tone.

  189. Diogo Martins says:

    by the way, since I’m buying via to Portugal, does anyone know if I’m going to pay for customs with the Brexit going on?

  190. Diogo Martins says:

    Hi Bjorn, unfortunately I had to sell my Musket :( so now I’m thinking about getting one of the much praised (and much cheaper) Vick Audio muffs, but I cant decide which one to choose. I’m trying to get the tones from all eras, but keep asking myself “will the ram’s head be too agressive and bright to do pulse? and is the black russian too mild for the wall?”, is the triangle a compromise in between? I really need your help on this one, my rig is fat 50’s/stock/ss-5 strat into cub12 combo

    Thanks a lot

    • Bjorn says:

      The ’73 should be able to give you some nice Pulse tones on that rig. You might find that with the mids booster in flat or boosted mode, will get you very close :)

  191. Eddy says:

    Hi Bjorn. I’m using an Electronic Orange Pig Hoof. I’m overall satisfied with the pedal. You’re review was very accurate. It’s noisy though. What can I do to lower the noise? Thanks, Eddy

    • Bjorn says:

      Roll down the gain. The Pig Hoof has a lot of gain and low end, which creates the tone, but also some noise. How much, depends on how well your rig is shielded and how much headroom your pickups and amp have. Be careful with combining the Hoof with compressors and boosters, and always run the amp as clean as possible.

  192. Diogo Martins says:

    Hi Bjorn, I noticed you don’t recomend the muffuletta for Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk/Rattle tones, was it a mishap or do you have a specific reason for it?

  193. KEITH says:

    Man, I am so sad that you haven’t laid your hands on Stu Castledine’s V2, which if you have any faith in my opinion at all, I swear mine is the closer to what I hear on Animals than any Muff I’ve played, or heard. Unfortunately, there are NO GOOD CLIPS THAT SOUND ANYTHING LIKE THE PEDAL SOUNDS. I understand that it’s hard for people to get excited about a pedal they hear in poorly done clips, where the people obviously aren’t Muff players, or Gilmour fanatics, but I assure you, the pedal is very, very close to the perfect Violet Ram’s Head. If you ever get an hour with one, you’ll be delighted . I hope that you get the chance to review the V2, as I’m certain you’ll love it as much as I do!

    Peace to all, Thanks for the updated guide Bjorn, KEITH

    • Bjorn says:

      Cheers, Keith :) Well, you know what I’ve said… If Stu sends me one, I’ll make an awesome review :)

      • KEITH says:

        Yep, I’m still disappointed that Lindy spaced on me after he said he’d send you the pickups. I need to remind him, but having been broke, and my health issues having taken front seat the past 18 months or so, I haven’t talked to Lindy, or been by his ship since he said he’d send them to you Christmas before last! Maybe Stu would be easier to get a review unit from, he’s not quite as forgetful as Lindy has always been. It’ll give me something to work on!
        Peace, Doctor told me yesterday that he believes the treatment will make me the energetic, ready to go guy I was 4-5 years ago, about 3 months to go!

        Thanks for everything, Keith

        • Bjorn says:

          That’s great news, Keith! Hope everything turns out well. No worries about the reviews. There’s tons of stuff out there that I want to review for you guys, and as much as I want to check out Lindy’s and Stu’s stuff, I’m in no position to buy all these things myself. I’d go bankrupt within a week LOL! I’m sure something will turn up eventually :)

  194. David Du says:

    hi, bjorn, how are you!
    I just brought a Bass Big Muff Pi, and have no time to try it yet. And I would live to ask your advice about the pedal chain as: Keely c2->BBM->Tube Driver (12AU7)->DM2(3005 Chip)->maz18. Any advice? Thanks


    • Bjorn says:

      That seems like a good start :)

      • David Du says:

        Thanks, what do you think if I use 12AT7 on a overdrive Tube Driver? or it’s more suitable for a boosting TD?

        • Bjorn says:

          Depends on how much headroom you want. A AT7 is somewhere between a 12AX7 and AU7. I did use a AU7 at one point and got a very nice clean boost from that, but on a Hiwatt, which has lots of headroom, the pedal didn’t work that well for overdrive.

          • David Du says:

            Thanks Bjorn, I tried AT7 on overdrive TD, it’s more smoother, and not that aggressive than AX7.Thansk for your guide!

  195. Andrew says:

    Wren and Cuff makes a number of Big Muffs, in addition to the Box of War. I looked at a number of muffs, already having the Mojo Hand BMP1 and wanting to get more variety. I settled on the Vick ’73 Ram’s head. Looking forward to trying it out.

  196. Carmen says:

    Are you familiar with the ‘Wren and Cuff The Caprid’? It’s supposed to be a combination of all for Big Muff models that were released over the years. Here is what they list as the features-Original “3003″ style circuit board
    All carbon composition 1/2 watt “brown-tone” resistors
    Mullard “tropical fish” capacitor clipping sections
    Standard 2.1mm center negative DC jack (Boss-type)
    True hard-wire 3PDT bypass switch
    Extra heavy duty enclosure built to take a beating
    On/Off slide switch like the original units

  197. JJ POu says:

    Hi there!

    I really like your reviews and your “Gilmouristic” point of views :)

    I have a question, have you tried the Way Huge Pedals (from the Dunlop Company)?

    Thank you very much & greetings from Spain

    • Bjorn says:

      Thanks! I’ve tried a couple of them… The Green Rhino is a Tube Screamer, with a few different upgrades or improvements. The Pork Loin is a Tube Driver/Powerbooster type of overdrive and the Sollen Pickle is a nice take on the Big Muff.

  198. Alessandro Borges Cordeiro says:

    Hi Bjorn, Congratulations again for your great site!

    I Have, between my gain pedals, a Vick Audio 73 Ram’s Head, a TopTone DG 1, a TopTone DG 2, a Mooer Black Secret and a Dunlop Germanium Mini FuzzFace.
    I need to make better use of the space of my pedalboard, so I thought I only use three of them. Thinking of a versatile setup which, in your opinion, should keep in pedalboard?
    I can replicate fuzzface tones with Vick Ram’s Head or the DG 1?
    what do you think works best as distortion: the DG 2 or mooer Black Secret?

    Note: my overdrives are the BK Butler TD, OCD, TS 808 and Mooer Blues Mood.


    • Alessandro Borges Cordeiro says:

      I forgot to tell: my amps are Fender Blues Deluxe, with Jensen C12N Speaker and Bugera V5 to play at home. My Guitar is a Fender Stratocaster American Deluxe With N3 pickups.

    • Bjorn says:

      Whether or not it is versatile depends on what tones you want. A Muff isn’t that suited for replicating germanium tones, which have more of that overdrive character. The Vick 73 and DG1 are somewhat overlapping, while the Black Secret and DG2 are very similar as well. If you want to save space, I’d keep only two of these, choosing between the best sounding Muff and Rat style pedals :)

  199. Josh says:

    Hey Bjorn! Hope all is well! Thank you again for your unbelievable site! I was hoping that you might provide some of your wisdom with deciding between a few muff options-between the vick audio 73 rams head, the Bjorn modded VA 73 rams head or the Skreddy P19-what would you recommend for Animals era big muff sounds? I am playing a fender strat through a reeves custom 12 with a vintage purple speaker. Do you think the Skreddy would be best as it is a stacked pedal or do you think one of the vick audio options with a booster?

    Thanks so much again!

    • Bjorn says:

      Sorry for my late reply. Thanks a lot for your kind words! I haven’t played a Muff on the Reeves 12 but all three would go nicely, based on the specs. The Vick Bjorn modded, is tweaked to better fit my setup, with a tad more top and less gain but the 3-way mid range switch makes it really versatile. The P19 sounds very much like a Muff paired with a booster behind it, creating a very smooth and compressed tone. For your amp, I think I would go for one of the Vicks, as the P19 may be a bit too mid rangy.

  200. Greg says:

    I watched both reviews on the Pighoof and the Vick Audio 73 Ram’s Head and both sound amazing. It looks like you prefer the Vick Audio but the tone you achieved with the Pighoof in your video playing Mother is exactly what I’m looking for. Can you get the same tone or sound with the Vick Audio Ram’s Head? Thank you for all you do! I refer to this site frequently.

    • Bjorn says:

      Thanks for your kind words Greg! What amp are you using?

      • Greg says:

        Don’t have it yet but I’m going to order either a L5 Studio or L5t-112.

        • Greg says:

          I’m honestly not too thrilled that they’re made in China now though.

          • Jonathan Thomas says:

            Hi Greg, I’ve owned two UK L5t-112’s and I currently own a China L5H Studio…honestly, you’ve got nothing to worry about. I much prefer the little head for versatility in featured. I run mine through a load box and a Torpedo CAB and it sounds incredible. You won’t regret it.

        • Bjorn says:

          You won’t get them to sound exactly the same. The Vick has more mids, and a 3-way mid range switch for even more, and an overall more saturared tone. The Pig Hoof has a more scooped tone, with an overall more vintage flavour. The Lionheart can take both so it depends more on what type of voicing you want.

  201. Lozo says:

    Hi Bjorn!

    First, I have been reading and searching for informations on your website for a few months now, and I have to say it’s really awesome. Such a great ressource about DG’s tone and gear. Keep up the good work!

    I have a question: have you ever heard about the brand called “Wren and Cuff”? They make replicas of Ram’s Head (Caprid) and Sovtek Civil War (Box of War) Big Muffs. If yes, how do they compare to the Pig Hoof and Patriot for instance? If not, maybe you could ask them to send you one of each so you can test them :D That could be interesting. The very few reviews I could find were very positive.


    • Bjorn says:

      Thanks for your kind words! I’ve tried most of their pedals. Really great stuff. At that level, it doesn’t really matter what brand you choose. Most clones are really good so what’s more important is whether or not your amp can handle a Big Muff. If it can, then you need to decide on what type of Big Muff you want. Triangle, Ram’s Head or Sovtek? Most clones out there are either based on a specific pedal, reverse-engineered, or, based on different modifications on the circuit to emulate a certain Big Muff tone. Read more in the Big Muff Tone Tutorial and the Knowing what pedals to choose for your amp feature.

      • Lozo says:

        Thanks for your answer!

        Well, I have a little cheap transistor amp atm (since I study abroad and play at my place with low volume or headset most of the time, I don’t want to make noise for the neighbours) but plan to buy a proper tube amp when I’m back. Of course I would want to try some models first (including the Laney L20T-212 thanks to your review) and chose what type of Muff I want based on that. If the amp I chose has enough mids, I’ll definitely go with a Ram’s Head clone.
        I also plan to buy a Two Notes Torpedo Live, so no problem playing the amp at home.


        • Bjorn says:

          Well, I would decide on the amp first and then the pedals. Your current setup won’t go that well with a Muff but if you do decide to go for a new amp, you may want to consider one with more compression and mid range. The Lionheart is great but there are lots of different alternatives out there.

  202. Chad from Dallas says:


    I have a quick question. I am looking at trying either the Skreddy P19 or Mojo Hand Iron Bell. From what I have read from your reviews and many others, they are both pretty versatile at covering Gilmour tones, as well as better as stand alone pedals. I am playing through a TC Electronics G-system for effects and a Mesa Lone Star. I have also learned through you that Muffs often don’t sound good through mid scooped type amps and have been using a Soothsayer for this reason. I just keep getting drawn to a Muff though! Do you think either of these would be a good fit and if so would pick one over the other, based on what I have?
    Also, did you get my pics I sent of Davids board at MSG a few weeks back?


    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Chad! Very sorry for my late reply. Yeah, I saw those pics! Awesome stuff! Thanks! Both of these pedals should work nicely… or at least better than most Muffs on a scooped amp. The P19 has the smoothest tone, with more gain and mids hump but it can be a bit too aggressive. The Iron Bell is really great and it tends towards a hint of that Rat tone as well.

      • Chad from Dallas says:

        Thank you Bjorn. I got my Iron Bell a few days ago. Not sure if it will replace the Soothsayer or not, but it does sound very cool indeed! Thank you for the reply. I am greatly looking forward to the new Air Bag album. I am going to pre order it tonight!


  203. Paul Booth says:

    would you be so kind as to review the akai drive 3 switch? it has fuzz face and big muff clone all in one.

  204. Ben Ferwerda says:

    Hi Bjorn!

    Which muff do you think would best get me Pompeii tones all the way to Pulse era Gilmour? I used to have a Sunface Fuzz and a muff but pedal real estate has made me look for one pedal that can cover both bases. I play a Strat through a Fender HRD III. As always your opinion and suggestions are highly appreciated!

    • Bjorn says:

      I would go for something versatile, like a Rat, Buffalo FX Evolution or the excellent Bad Angel from CostaLab (review coming soon). They’re all capable of covering a lot of Davids tones and they also work nicely with a Fender, adding a bit of that needed mid range.

  205. Luciano says:

    Hi Bjorn, i’m thinking about buying the EHX germanium Big Muff, not only to play Gilmour songs, but also other 60’s tunes. As you’ve said in this post, that pedal will allow me to get some early Gilmour tones. However, if i want to cover more ground, using the overdrive channel as a power booster/tube driver, should i buy what type of big muff ? And should i place the “real muff” before or after the germanium muff ? My guitar is a Les Paul with p90 and my amp is a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe.

    • Bjorn says:

      The Germanium Muff might be a better choice if you’re looking for something versatile and slightly different than a regular Muff, which doesn’t really lend it self that well to blues and milder tones. You may also want to look into a germanium fuzz for even more accurate 60s tones. Mind that the Germanium Muff do sound very different from a rams head or triangle Muff so if you’re looking for something to cover as much ground as possible, you might want to consider getting one of each or, something like a Rat or the Evolution from Buffalo FX, which can give you a bit of both.

      • Luciano says:

        Thanks Bjorn. So i think i wouldn’t be able to do what I planned (overdrive channel from Germanium muff as overdrive, distortion channel from Germanium muff as a 60’s germanium fuzz and use another muff for “real muff tones”). Maybe a Rat style pedal would be a better option. In this case, which overdrive\booster do you recommend to match a Rat and a 60’s germanium fuzz at the same time ?

  206. Mark says:

    hey bjorn! I’m really looking for those pulse tones in my strat with DG-20s, and I was wondering if I should get the stomp under foot civil war or save up more to get the tube driver…

    • Bjorn says:

      As I’m sure you know, the Civil War is a Big Muff distortion/fuzz, while the Tube Driver is an overdrive. Two very different sounding pedals so it depends on what tones you want. You probably want both if you want to cover the Pulse tones. What kind of amp do you have?

      • mark says:

        I’m looking for a new tube amp also, but as of now I have a fender… should I get another fender like a blues junior or a Marshall or maybe something else? and what I meant was I already have a Nano big muffins a boss SD-1 but I wanted either the SUF to replace the muff, or the TD to replace the SD-1. I will eventually get both, but I just wanted to know which was the better choice first! thanks!

        • mark says:

          Nano big muff** that was autocorrect on my phone…

        • Bjorn says:

          Ive always considered a high gain overdrive to be more versatile than a Big Muff or distortion, so Id get the TD first. As for the amp – Fender and Marshall are the two opposites so I guess my best advice would be to take your guitar to a dealer and sit down for a few hours and just try a bunch of amps. Hear how some have more mid range, while others might have more headroom. Decide based on which you think suits your playing, tone preference and environment the most.

  207. Emi says:

    Hi Bjorn! this is an amazing site! I just can’t stop reading!
    I have a question, I have a Laney cub 12r amp, I want to buy my first Muff. I play on my small bedroom, with low volume and with headphones at late night. Is it ok if I go to the “Electro Harmonix Deluxe Big Muff Pi”? will it sound good and at that low level?
    I have a Fender Strat Standard Mex with the default pickups.

    • Bjorn says:

      I haven’t tried that one on the Cub (only a Lionheart and Reeves) but it’s very versatile and I would assume that you can dial in pretty much anything you want and need for the amp.

  208. Dave Spingler says:

    Hi Bjorn, love your site! I had a question regarding the Vick 73 Rams Head. How would you rate it in terms of noise when using single coils? I mean, I see above you have it as 10/10 for noise – does this mean that you found it to be relatively quiet in comparison to other muffs as far as white noise/buzz/hum/hiss (or however you want to describe it)? I ask because I recently acquired one used and it may be the noisiest muff I’ve personally used. I currently have a mid-90s green russian and a newer nano big muff, both of which are practically silent compared to the Vick, even using standard single coils and a booster (which raises the noise floor even more on the Vick). The thing is, I’m even only running the Vick with the sustain at 9 o’clock and it’s still noisier than the other two at 1 or 2 o’clock. Somehow this seems wrong and I’m thinking of sending it to Mike Vickery for him to check out and make sure that it isn’t something wrong with the pedal. I just wondered what kind of noise you’ve experienced with your own Vick using single coils and boosters.

    • Bjorn says:

      Hmmm… Noise isn’t always easy to explain. I have three different 73s and they’re all very quiet. Now, when I say quiet, I mean that the circuit is quiet. There’s hardly any noise coming from the pedal. However, the 73 has quite a lot of gain and it’s fairly loud, so you will experience more noise from the gain, compared to a triangle or Sovtek, which has less gain. More gain and loudness also mean that the pedal will amplify any noise that’s in the chain, which might be coming from the single coils, other pedals, powering etc. Placement of the pedal can also be an issue. Too close to a power source can create some low frequency hum. Next to a pedal with a special circuit, buffer or hardwire bypass can also cause some noise. Ask Mike for advice but I’d start with trying to eliminate as many sources as possible.

      • Dave says:

        Thanks for replying, Bjorn! The pedal is noisy by itself or in a chain, with an isolated power supply or with a one spot, and when in a chain doesn’t seem to be affected by anything else in the chain that’s not turned on, regardless of buffer or not. Different boosters when engaged naturally amplify the existing noise a lot or only a little depending on the booster (my bb preamp for example makes it much, much worse than my spark booster). I hear you on the Sovtek, but I will say that the Vick is nowhere near as loud or high gain as the nano big muff, but the noise is at least double or triple on the Vick even at very low sustain settings and this is what makes me think it’s the pedal. Same power supplies, same guitars, amps, etc and the Vick is a white noise machine when not playing (and it is still a little noticeable even when playing). I really love the sound of the actual effect, and it is really frustrating that it’s this noisy. I have been in touch with Mike and he’s willing to take a look at it, but by the time I pay for shipping there and back, I will have been better off getting a brand new one in the first place; not to mention if he wants to charge for any repair that might be needed. I guess I’ll send it to him anyway and hope that it’s a fixable problem and not some “nature of the beast” sort of thing where he sends it back saying it’s all good. I’ve owned several muffs over the years, but this is the first non-electro harmonix one I’ve taken a chance on. Mike said every muff he’s tried with single coils has been noisy, but this just hasn’t been my experience over 20+ years of playing (noisier than with humbuckers, yes, but not so much that it is as obtrusive as the noise produced by the Vick). I heard so many good things about the Vick, including your review and I felt confident that it would be at the very least as good as any EHX muff I have or have tried (and the actual distortion effect is in fact a lot better and more musical to my ears); now I’m not as enthusiastic. Thanks again for the reply.

  209. David Du says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    How are you!
    I just reviewed this post, and have an question about BD-2 and Tube Driver, that as you said.”the Boss BD2 could easily cover for a Colorsound Powerboost but it’s really a close resemblance of the Tube Driver and it works just as good as a booster as an overdrive”, and I have a TD as a booster, should I employ BD-2 as well? it seems similar as your comment.

    • Bjorn says:

      They’re very similar so it’s more down to whether you need a booster and a dedicated overdrive, which I think makes a more versatile setup :)

      • David Du says:

        Thanks Bjorn, I have a TD for overdrive, and one TD(12au7) for Boostering, and I just employed a ep booster, so I don’t know if it’s good enough for copy DG’s tone.

        • Bjorn says:

          The EP booster you mean? He’s never used a booster as such but the EP is great for adding a bit of life and punch to your amp, and it also has a tad mid range, which goes very well with David’s tones and for boosting overdrives and Muffs.

          • David Du says:

            yes! now here is my chain: Guitar-> boos cs3->tube dirver(OD)->tube driver(booster)->ep booster->tc nova delay->Laney irt studio (Clean Channel), any suggestion?

  210. Mark says:

    Hi Bjorn! I have a bedroom setup with a Dynacomp, a boss sd-1, a EH nano big muff, a TC electronics nova delay, a boss CE-2 , and a small fender amp. I also have a red strat with EMG DG-20s. I’m in love with the PULSE and Delicate tones, and I really want something better than my current big muff. The Sovtek Civil war muff was the first one that came to my mind to get, but I soon found out they are way too expensive. How do you feel about the Stomp Under Foot Civil War muff? I can’t find a real AB comparison on YouTube, and that’s the main way I find out how good clones are.

    • Bjorn says:

      My favourite Civil War Muff is the Patriot from Buffalo FX. It’s as close as you’ll get. The SUF is great too and worth checking out. Keep in mind that Big Muffs are moody beasts and how they ultimately sound, depends very much on the amp. Fender amps might not be the best choice for a Muff. Especially for those DG tones. You might want to consider a pedal that’s a bit more versatile, like the Evolution from Buffalo FX or something similar. If you’re really desperate to get THE tone, then you might want to consider getting an amp with more mid range and an overall darker tone.

  211. Lui Sutil says:

    No Thorpy Muffroom Cloud?

  212. Marc says:

    Great site seems to be finished or is it still going?

  213. Outlander2053 says:

    Hey Bjorn, I live in the Netherlands and i’ve been looking around for the Buffalo FX Patriot for a while in my own country but it seems like it’s only sold in the usa. How did you get yours?

    • Bjorn says:

      Check out the order form on their page or simply send them an e-mail and ask for the easiest way to order. They’re located in France, BTW :)

  214. Brian says:

    Hey Bjørn! I just purchased the Vick Audio 73 Rams Head and I must tell everyone that my 7 year search for the perfect Big Muff is over. I’ve tried dozens of models and just last week bought the newer Deluxe Big Muff from EHX on a great open box deal but then the Vick came up for auction so I’ve gotten the chance to A/B the 2 and there really is no comparison. Kudos to Vick Audio for such a spot on version that’s miles better for basically the same cost. It’s a shame that EHX is falling behind with the Muff and the Elec. Mistress and being upstaged by others for two of their flagship pedals. I find that the Vick is great on its own and really needs no boosting at least in a bedroom situation.

  215. Lui Sutil says:

    No love for the Swollen Pickle? “Sorrow” right there… And yeah Bjorn , you gotta talk about the Muffroom Cloud, you just gotta!!!

  216. Paul says:

    Hi Bjorn a have just recently found your website and was blown away by the info on here. After reading your section on muffs I tried driving mine with different pedals. I ended up with a great live sound using a bad monkey into little big muff into a boss dd 3 delay I could not believe with a tiny amount of drive how amazing the muff sounds. Cheers for all the info. P,S could you tell me what he used on obscured by clouds mainly The
    gold its in the. CHEERS PAUL.

  217. Jamie says:

    Hey Bjorn do you have any experience with the wren and cuff caprid? I’m curious how it compares to the Box of war

    • Bjorn says:

      The Caprid is a ram’s head type of Muff, with a fairly bright tone, scooped mids and an overall aggressive tone. The Box of War is a clone of the early 90s Sovtek Civil War Muff, which has much more mid range and an overall warmer tone.

  218. Pete W. says:

    Hey Bjorn,
    Skreddy is coming out with a dynamic mids enhancer. Looks like it will be awesome after a muff.

  219. Marc says:

    Hi can you help me i got a blackstar I’d core and Fender deluxe stratocaster with seymour Duncan ssl 5 in the bridge and ssl 1 in the neck and middle I got patriot but it does not sound very good can help with the settings or can you
    Recommend me with pedals for the amp I am useiing thanks

  220. Diogo Martins says:

    Hi Bjorn, it can never be reinforced enough how amazing this site is and to thank you for all the dedication and time given to us Gilmour fans :D

    Now, I’m a massive On An Island fan and that Castellorizon tone just give me the shivers, unfortunately I’m on a very very very, very tight budget, so I was wondering if the Germanium 4 Big Muff could be used as a rather poor man’s G2 as they both are germanium Big Muff-ish distortions or should i be better served with the Mooer Black Secret instead? I’m playing with a Squier Std w/ SSL-5 (bridge) and Fat 50s (neck) into a Laney Cub 12r combo.

    Thanks in advance!

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Diogo! Thanks for your kind words! Much appreciated :) A Big Muff is very limited, I think. They sound like a Muff and little else, so if you’re on tight budget I would suggest something a bit more versatile. The Black Secret is an excellent Rat clone and it does a very good job doubling as both a Muff and a G2 :)

      • Diogo Martins says:

        Thanks for replying, Bjorn :D
        The thing is, I already have a Musket, so the Big Muff part is already covered, but what I was affraid of was that the black secret would have too much gain to stand in as a creamy germanium overdrive, or am i just talking nonsense?

        • Bjorn says:

          It should provide overdrive tones as well but if gain is your concern, then check out the Mooer Hustle Drive, which is a clone of the Fulltone OCD. It’s capable of warm overdrive and saturated distortion.

          • Diogo Martins says:

            Yes, when the time came i chose the blues mood over the hustle drive because it could be used as a booster as well, but hustle drive it is i guess…
            thanks Bjorn, keep up with the good work!

    • Lui Sutil says:

      Nooooooo! Don’t get the Germanium!!! Get the Delixe Big Muff, or a velvet Fuzz.

      • Diogo Martins says:

        I got the Hustle Drive instead, although obviously its nowhere near the germanium OD, i can squeeze some nice Gdansk tones out of it, it filled that missing spot between my Blues Mood and my Musket :) But you think that the Deluxe could replicate the G-2 (or at least do a convincing impersonation)?

  221. Joaquim says:

    What Pete Cornish pedal do you think I should get?

  222. Noah says:

    Hi Bjorn, Great site. I spend way too much time on here! I just sold a few pedals and since I have some money to spend…how about a new muff. In your humble opinion, where is my money best spent…original Sovtek Civil War Muff, Buffalo Patriot, or other. I currently have the Stomp under food Red Army, and a Noel revu, but I can’t quit looking at the original Sovtek pedals. Do you think the originals are worth a few extra bucks? I typically play through a cranked Laney Cub w/ a black strat replica. I have a BK Tube Driver and Buffalo Powerbooster available to boost when needed. Thanks!

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Noah! Thanks for your kind words! Those old Sovtek pedals are getting very pricy so you have to decide if you think they’re worth it :) I’d much rather spend my money on a good clone. My favourite Civil War clone is the Buffalo Patriot. It nails that dark and throaty tone, with a nice mids boost and lots of sustain :)

  223. Arya Boustani says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    Nice to see you back. It’s probably hard to imagine how many hundreds of people are worried about you not showing up for a few days! Hope all is well. Thanks for getting back to me in the other thread.
    I’m still muff searching. Kinda obsessed!!!
    I just heard a couple of reviews of Noel Pedals The Cornet and Cornet Revu and they sound amazing!!!!

  224. Bernie says:

    Hi Bjorn I have a Blackout Effectors Musket which I like but I know DG favours the Rams head Muff pretty much on everything. Can the Musket replicate the tones of a Rams head, is it just a matter of scooping the Mids with an Eq for example ( as you know the Musket has quite a loy of Mids) Thanks again for your help.

  225. Hershel says:

    Hi Bjorn, great guide as always, what is your opinion on the caprid by Wren and Cuff?

  226. HRVOJE says:

    Hi Bjorn, i have problem with setup on my Russian Big Muff to create lead tone. I read all of your rewievs and I understand its a noisy pedal, butt its too dark anyway and hard to control on lower volumes ( my rehersal volumes ). What is you advice, what to do to get to similar lead tone as David’s? I dont want to buy another pedal, if I can jet close with this one. I am playing right now on JTM45 butt have also and Hiwatt SSD103. By your rewievs I think that maybe Vicks clone pedal is something I should think about if There is no answer for My Big Muff. Thanks

    • Bjorn says:

      The Russian Sovtek Muffs has a nice amount of mids, which will help them cut through, but they can sound fairly dark in darker amps, which your JTM45 is. You might want to pair it with a transparent and brighter sounding booster, like a Powerbooster of some sort (Vick Audio Overdriver or Buffalo FX Powerbooster). A ram’s head Big Muff , has a brighter and more fuzz-like tone. The Vick also got a mids boost feature, which will help it cut through.

  227. Arya Boustani says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    I’m buying a pre-assembled BYOC Large Beaver Triangle version. I know for Triangle sound it is your (or one of your) favourites. I was wondering if the difference with Ram’s head (let’s say Vick Audio 73’s Ram’s Head) is mostly frequency shaping that more or less can be achieved with a downstream EQ pedal or an EQ adjustable booster pedal, or it actually sounds different by means of response to picking, dynamics, chords, etc. something that can’t be achieved with a downstream (or upstream) pedal tweaking. So basically if you like to have the whole range of flexibility of both pedals, two separate pedals are needed (or a multi circuit pedal like Muffuletta).

    • Bjorn says:

      It’s two different tones and you can’t get that with just an EQ. The triangle is saturated and smooth, with a fat low end and rolled off top. It responds incredibly well to single coils, producing an almost fuzz meets overdrive kind of tone. A ram’s head has less gain and low end, but sounds much more aggressive and fuzz-like.

      • Arya Boustani says:

        Thanks Bjorn for your feedback. I got my BYOC Large Beaver triangle yesterday. I was wondering if you could share your setup (upstream / downstream active pedals that work in conjunction with BYOC Large Beaver triangle) and set variables for the BYOC triangle pedal, and wether it works well with buffer upstream of BYOC. I’m still working on setting variables but I found I get overwhelming amount of gain (output volume knob is only at 9 o’clock!!!) and sustain sounds too compressed anything above 12 o’clock and kind of chokes downstream tube driver. As a rescue if I reduce the sustain to let’s say 9 o’clock, sound becomes dull and looses its high end, and in that situation even the tone knob doesn’t quite help. I like the idea of having a mild muff sound just to smooth out my downstream tube driver that is set at over drive (rather than boost) even further, and add intricacy of muff overtones and character without sounding too dull and loosing too much top end. My Black Russian Big Muff does that very well and I thought if I can make my BYOC get to that point as the starting point (mild muff sound with a good sound definition) and then I build upon that for more muff character, etc. I guess DG uses Cornish P-2 upstream of tube driver set at overdrive so if I assume P-2 is sort of close to a mild muff, I’m trying to create that sort of scenario.
        Thanks a lot.

        • Arya Boustani says:

          Hi again. Just wanted to give an update. I opened up the BYOC triangle. Soldered a few areas and found out the EQ selector was soldered to the opposite side of the board so I think the order is reversed (far left -> bypass, etc.). I found a setting that seems to be working ok with some upstream, downstream adjustment. It is definitely smoother than my Sovtek (late black) muff and more usable mid-range but also less DG muff character. I know you mentioned Buffalo FX Evolution to get a more versatile pedal. I assume B FX Ev. has even less muff character than BYOC triangle. Perhaps it’s also smooth but also there is B FX Patriot which is probably not as smooth as BYOC triangle but right out muff character. I found out that some of the articulations can hide under the blanket of smoothness of BYOC muff unless I reduce the sustain, increase the tone to brighten it up, etc and even then it is still not quite there. So if you like to pick one muff with as close character as it can be to DG muff sound, but being sort of smooth with singing sustain while allowing subtle articulations to come out, which one is going to be that?
          Thanks Bjorn, and sorry for multiple posts on this issue.

          • Bjorn says:

            As I’ve said, it depends on how that Big Muff sounds on the amp you’re using it with but, without any consideration to the amp, I would say that the Evolution is great for On an Island type of sounds, while the Patriot is dead on the Pulse era. David, as you know, is more associated with the ram’s head than the triangle but the triangle is a great alternative nevertheless. I have always loved the triangle for its smooth and warm tone. It has a musicality and harmonics than none of the other muffs has. Regardless of what Muff you’re using, you should always experiment with the settings and hear how tweaking the controls will change the character of the pedal. Drive it hard and it sounds smoother and more compressed. Roll back the volume, below unity, and you’ll get more harmonics and more of that fuzz character.

        • Bjorn says:

          This is always hard to comment on because the total amount of gain you get, also depends on how hot your pickups are and the amp settings. A hot driven amp, which is also producing a bit of compression, will make your pedals sound darker and perhaps even muddier. A Tube Driver sounds great boosting after a Muff on some amps but it can sound quite muddy on other amps.
          My experience with most Muffs is that they can handle buffers pretty well. The triangle Muff has a scooped tone and can therefore benefit from a booster with a hint of mids, placed after it. As to the actual settings – this depends entirely on the circuit of the pedal, what you combine it with and its settings and the amp. My best tip is that you experiment and find the best settings that matches your amp and the total amount of gain you want.

  228. Lui Sutil says:

    The velvet fuzz is Gilmour in a box! Can’t believe it’s so low rated … True that is kinda dark… But makes it fatter and makes my ssl-5 more useable…
    Probably the best circuit on this list… Then the deluxe big muff sounds pretty darn good!
    I’m not for nostalgic imperfections in sound… If the russian muff doesn’t sound that good… Then it doesn’t and it shouldn’t be rated that high… Calling it’s imperfections part of their mojo… Ugh.

  229. I’ve just got a Mooer Triangle Buff (without even testing it…just with the info I read here!) and it is great!

    For solos, I tried a Boss-SD1 in both configurations, before and after the Mooer and before (as booster) I thought it worked so much better, killer tone. After the Mooer, I really didn’t like, not even close to a Gilmour Sound IMO.

    Best config so far for me:

    Mooer configs:
    Volume 55%
    Tone 60-65%
    Sustain 70%

    Boss SD-1 (as booster)
    Volume 50-55% (just a little bit more than 12h)
    Drive 55%
    Tone 50%

    Thanks Bjorn for this site, helped me a LOT!

  230. Hey Bjorn, I know it’s hard to keep up with all these things, but I’m specifically interested in your thoughts about Thorpy FX’s Muffroom Cloud? Many thanks for your time.

  231. Helmut says:

    I don’t know, if this is ok – but I could offer a brandnew Vick audio Ram’s Head, which I purchased from Atlantic Guitar – if that helps. Maybe Bjorn can give you my E-mail-adress, if you are interested. Bjorn, if this comment is not okay and against the board-rules, please skip it!

  232. joao bicudo says:

    Hi Bjorn!

    I live in Geneva Switzerland and I’m some troubles to buy a Vick Audio 73 Rams head because Switzerland isn’t in EU! That’s the answer that I received from the international seller witch is Atlantic Guitar in Scotland! It doesn’t make sence!!! Probably they aren’t interested in selling pedals… I wonder if Vick Audio EUA knows!? ?

    Never mind, do you think the EHX Big Muff Deluxe with all it’s range of capabilities is something to consider?


    Joao bicudo

    • Bjorn says:

      Contact Vick directly and share your issue. I’m sure they can help.

      • joao bicudo says:

        I will !

        Do you think the EHX Big Muff Deluxe with all it’s range of capabilities is something to consider or it’s just a waste of money? My muffs are EHX Bass Big Muff and a Mooer Big Buff.
        I’m pretty sure Vick Audio 73 Rams Head is much better! ;)


        João Bicudo

        • Bjorn says:

          Depends on what amp you have. The Deluxe is great and you can tweak it for a wide range of different tones but all Muffs are very sensitive to what amp you’re using. The Bass Muff is a great version of the early 90s Sovtek Muffs, which should work nicely on most amps.

  233. Alfredo Martínez says:

    Hi Bjorn, congratulations for this space you have created for Gilmours fans, sure your experience and knowledge are helpful when making a decision before buying guitars, amps or effects. I am in search of big muff and still do not know which is the most conveninte for my guitar Fender Stratocaster with standard seymourduncan SSL-5 pickups and amplifier Fender Hot Rod DeVille 212 III â„¢.

    I was thinking about the possibility to buy a Noel Cornet, you’ve tried this? or you have a better suggestion.

    Best Wishes,


    • Bjorn says:

      Thanks for your kind words, Alfredo! Glad you enjoy the site :) I haven’t tried the Noel Cornet but from what I know, it’s a clone of the early Sovtek Muff, which should go nicely with your Fender amp. You might also want too look into one of my favourite Sovtek clones, the Patriot from Buffalo FX.

  234. Gabriel says:

    Hey! What are your thoughts on the Wren and Cuff Caprid? Is is worth the buy or are there better clones?

    • Bjorn says:

      I’ve only tried it very briefly, which is why I haven’t included it in this guide (I will try to explore it more for a future update). It’s really well done and captures the ram’s head tone perfectly. I guess most of the clones out there are very good. There are small nuances between them so it depends on whether you want more or less gain, boosted or cut low end or mids etc. My all time favourite is the Pig Hoof, which, compared to the Caprid, has a bit more of everything :)

  235. Matt says:

    Hey Bjorn, first of all, thanks for this crazy good resource you’ve made here. I was wondering what your opinion on the JHS Muffuletta is. I’ve seen other comments, like the one above, that you reviewed it, but I can’t seem to find the review. I was recently told about it and got a chance to demo it, and liked it quite a lot, both because of the sound and the various options which would allow me to get a fuzz tone for other heroes of mine along with David. I’m looking to replace my EHX big muff which I got two years ago, which just isn’t cutting it. The only other fuzz I’ve liked is the Wampler Velvet Fuzz. Just looking for an opinion on if the JHS is worth the leap. Thanks!

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Matt, I haven’t posted the review yet, so no wonder you didn’t find it :) The Muffuletta sounds great! Highly recommended!

  236. Saul HUDSON says:

    Hi Björn,

    Meanwhile your review of the JHS MUFFULETTA, i rellay thinking of buying a good Big Muff for emulating Gilmour tone of different eras. What is your advice : Vick Audio 73 Ram’s Head ? Buffalo FX Ram’s Head NOS BC239c ? Buffalo Evolution ?
    I love the three !!!!!

    Thanks again man, your website is amazing !


    • Bjorn says:

      Thank you, Saul! The Muffuletta is really great and well worth checking out. For vintage tones I’d go for the Vick ’73… between the ones you mention :)

  237. Helmut says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    are Vick Audio pedals available in Europe? I’d love to order a V3 or V1 Ramshead, but couldn’t find a dealer in Europe.
    Would the Electronic Orange Pig Hoof be a substitute for the Vick Audio 73 Ramshead?
    Thanks, Helmut

    • Bjorn says:

      I think Atlantic Guitars is the distributor for UK but not sure who stocks them. Send a request to Vick Audio and ask :)

      • Helmut says:

        Atlantic Guitar has no option for shipping outside UK and they didn’t respond to my E-mail yet. I will send a request to Vick Audio.
        Best Wishes!

  238. joao bicudo says:

    Hi Bjorn!

    I play a Strat with ssl5 and cs69’s tro a hiwatt t20!

    Do you think Viky Audio 73 Rams head will go along with my amp?

    Joao bicudo

  239. Jason says:

    Sold a few things last week and finally bought a Muff. Thanks for the Vick Audio suggestions Bjorn. I did end up picking up the V1 Triangle. Mike was a super nice guy to talk to, shipping was quick, and this thing sounds AMAZING!! You were right on how low the noise of the Vick Audio muffs are. VERY quiet.

    I kinda want to try his Black Russian next, but I really wish Mike made a Green Russian clone with the attention to detail and solidity he puts into his builds.

    Thanks again!!

  240. Chris Githmark says:

    Hi Bjorn. I really enjoy your site, you do such a great job with the reviews and I always look forward to hearing you play.

    I have recently “cleaned house” on my pedal board and am selling off pedals that have not earned a right to stay. I am playing a Strat with CS69 pups in the middle and neck and an SSL5 in the bridge out of an Egnator Tweaker 15 set to model a very clean sound, somewhere between a Fender and an AC30 I suppose. While I am happy with my delay (DD-20), modulation (DEM, CS-2, MXR EVH Phase) I am struggling with the overdrive and muff tones. I built a BYOC triangle and I think it is too noisy (I am sure due to my poor build skills, not the circuit design). I also built a BYOC Classic Overdrive (TS 808 clone) that I actually do like and plan to keep.

    I am looking for low noise and bedroom suitability. The Buffalo stuff looks really good, although pricey. I would appreciate your advice on the 2-3 pedals that you think would round out my setup. I am not seeking a specific tone from any period; I just want it to be Gilmourish.

    Many thanks,


    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Chris, well since you mention Buffalo, I strongly recommend their Evolution for versatile distortion/Muff tones and the TDX for boost/overdrive. They’re hard to beat and, although a bit pricy perhaps, you get a pair of gain pedals that will cover almost anything you want to play.

  241. Saul HUDSON says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    I saw that and … Waouh ! What do you think of it ?



  242. Nathan says:

    Hey Bjorn I recently bought the eathquaker devices hoof fuzz and the mooer triangle buff (based of this pages recommendations) and I love both of them, despite the triangle sounding a bit similar to the us reissue though (at least how I was using it). But I’ve always been unable to get much attack from my sound when using a fuzz pedal. I’ve tried using the Dunlop tortex picks for a better punch and it worked a bit better but I still couldn’t get the same kind of punch that I see you getting in your videos. I’m using a Strat with cs69 pickups into a boss cs3 and a few other pedals (both fuzz pedals included) into an h&k tubemeister 5 with a 1×12 h&k cab. I’m not sure if I would need a booster for more treble or if im just not picking hard enough or at the right angle but the attack just never shows through for me and the fuzz overthrows any attack i could get from a clean tone. Any idea how I could get that punchy attack when using a fuzz from my bedroom setup? Great article btw, helped me decide 2 great fuzz pedals.

    • Bjorn says:

      Sorry for my late reply. I’d drop the compressor and see how that works. It will only smooth out the attack. Also, try increasing the mids on your amp a tad.

      • Nathan says:

        Thanks for the advice. After trying it with more mids and without the compressor it worked quite well. My problem was that I wasn’t playing loud enough to get any solid attack. The extra midrange realy helps. Thanks!

  243. Jason says:

    I’ll just say that all Muff-type pedals rock for the most part. I’m tempted to just buy one instead of building one and the tone of the Vick ’73 RH from your demo blew me away, which is weird, because I’m usually a triangle kind of guy. Haha.

    Have you tried either of the Vick Audio Triangle’s?

    • Bjorn says:

      Actually, I haven’t. Love their ram’s head though. One of the first Muffs I played, and are still using, is the old BYOC 3-knob triangle. Sounds very dynamic and musical.

      • Jason says:

        Your demo of their Ram’s Head sounds amazing, hence why I’m looking into the Triangle. I had a 4-knob BYOC Triangle and loved it, but it broke (I still need to troubleshoot it) and I’m looking at buying something this time instead of going the kit route.

  244. Ben says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    Have you had the opportunity to try any Stomp Under Foot pedals? I’d be interested to know what you think of them. I’ve just bought one of their Rams Head muffs off eBay and I have to say that it sounds great! Huge and dynamic! Easy to dial in DSOT/Pulse/Gdansk tones, with or without a booster, in my case a TC Electronic Spark Booster.

    Happy Muffing,


  245. Heshan says:

    Hi Bjorn. Firstly, I’m a big fan of your site, and being a huge Gilmour fan, I base a lot of my pedal-decisions on what I read here :) Thanks for all the great reviews/advice and everything else

    I am commenting here because I’ve always wanted to buy some sort of Big Muff pedal, and I think now is the time. Based on the descriptions of the various versions, here and on Kit Rae, I believe a Rams Head version is what I need. Something like the BYOC or the Vick Audio

    The main idea is to get a Gilmour-like lead tone – not an exact replica (which is impossible of course) but the idea in my head is for a smooth sustaining sort of lead tone. However, I probably won’t be adding more fuzz pedals into my pedalboard for a while, so I’d like the Muff I get to be versatile

    Is the Rams Head Muff a versatile pedal? Can it go from a great smooth lead tone to a raunchy sort of raw sound, kinda like what Jack White gets out of his Muff. I ask because I think Jack uses the new NYC Reissue model, which I hear kinda sucks for the Gilmour-type lead tone

    I’d love to hear your opinion. Based on my location, it is a bit hard to get a huge selection, and definitely impossible to demo in person. So my choices are between the BYOC/Vick Audio Rams head clones, and a new EHX Big Muff Reissue or a Little Big Muff


    • Bjorn says:

      Hi! Thanks a lot for your kind words! Sorry for my late reply. I need to know what guitar, pickups and amp you’re using to be able to suggest a versatile Muff :) Let me know…

      • Heshan says:

        Thanks for the reply! :) Ah yes I forgot to mention anything about my rig. I currently play through a Vox AC15 and a Fender Telecaster (with standard single coils)

        I also plan on getting a Fender (or Tweed clone) kind of amp and I play an Ibanez with dual humbuckers as well, so it’ll be great if the same pedal works well with this sort of rig too, but the Vox/Tele combination is my main one

        Waiting to hear your suggestions :)

        • Bjorn says:

          Hi, again, sorry for my late reply. Been to London to see David at Albert Hall :) An AC15 and Tele isn’t the most ideal setup for replicating David’s Muff tones. Big Muffs needs amps with boosted mids and preferably something less twangy than a Tele to get that smooth violin tone. A ram’s head or triangle might work, depending on how picky you are, but I would suggest a Sovtek style Muff, like the Buffalo FX Patriot or the current Electro Harmonix Bass Muff, which is great! You might also want to consider something a bit more versatile and easy to set up, like the ProCo Rat or the similar Buffalo Evolution.

          • Heshan says:

            Lucky you, haha! Thanks for the reply. Yeah I guess it isn’t the ideal rig for Gilmour sounds. I already have a Whiteface RAT but I wanted something more fuzzy. I hadn’t thought about a Sovtek Muff, I’ll check em out. Cheers!

  246. Hey Bjorn,

    Please could I make a request for you to review the new JHS Muffaletta –

    I’ve requested (here that JHS sends you a pedal for review, hopefully they’ll sort it out ASAP!

    That thing looks and sounds good, covers all the major Muffs from Triangle, Russian to Rams Head, all analoge too! Can’t ask for more than that.

    Be interested to hear what your thoughts are on it as I reckon it could be a game changer for us Gilmour fans!


  247. Carlos says: