• Electro Harmonix Triangle Big Muff Pi review

    David Gilmour - EHX Triangle Big Muff Pi

    To celebrate their 50th anniversary of making pedals, Electro Harmonix recently released the pedal that’s surely been their biggest success – the Big Muff Pi. Obviously, I had to check it out. Here’s my review of the Triangle Big Muff Pi.

    The Triangle got its name from the original 1969 layout of the pedal, with the three controls forming a triangle on the large chassis. Read more about its origins and history on the Big Muff Page.

    David Gilmour is perhaps best known for using the so-called Ram’s Head Big Muff (named after the ram on the logo). He got his first Big Muff just prior to recording Animals and it’s pretty much been his main distortion, or fuzz, unit ever since. Including on the recent Rattle That Lock tour.

    In the mid 90s, his setup featured a (Civil War) Big Muff made by Russian company Sovtek, after EHX founder Mike Matthews moved production to Russia for a brief period. The pedal was a huge part of David’s PULSE tones and it was once again featured on the Rattle That Lock tour.

    So what about the Triangle? David did use one during the summer months of the extended On an Island tour in 2006. Including the filming of the Royal Albert Hall shows that got a DVD release. It is seen laying on top of the Pete Cornish pedal board in loop with a TRex Replica delay. Possibly used for Echoes and the organ/guitar duet jam.

    Read more about David Gilmour and his Big Muffs here.

    A few months back EHX released Green Russian. A faithful reissue of the early 90s green Sovtek tank. To be very honest I was surprised over how good it sounded and it’s been one of my favourite Big Muffs ever since. Read my review of the Green Russian Big Muff here.

    The Triangle is housed in that same Nano-sized chassis, with a grey finish and letters paying tribute to the original pedal. Like all classic Big Muffs, it features controls for gain, tone and level and the pedal runs on either 9V battery or adapter.

    This is a loud pedal. In fact, it’s one of the loudest Big Muffs I’ve ever played. I started with all the controls at noon, with the Reeves Custom 50 amp fairly loud, and it felt like a wild horse trying to run me down!

    I’ve had the chance to play a couple of original Triangles and they all sounded different. Some of the clones I’ve been using sound more like a Sovtek – very dark and tamed. I’m guessing EHX didn’t try to reverse engineer a specific pedal for this one but rather capture the essence of those early Big Muffs. Perhaps leaning towards a Ram’s Head.

    Compared to the Green Russian, the Triangle has a much more scooped mid range. There’s a lot more gain on tap and noticeably more low end. Did I mention that it’s loud?

    The volume control seem to produce unity level around 11 o’clock and at that setting, you get all of those fuzz-like harmonics. Turn the volume up higher and the pedal starts to drive the front end of your amp. It sounds more compressed and the pedal soon get that familiar violin-like smooth sustain.

    The low end and gain can be hard to control on certain amps and you might find it a bit too aggressive with hotter pickups but you can easily roll back the gain below noon and still get a nicely saturated tone, with lots of sustain and character.

    The only thing I could put my finger on is that it sounds slightly gated with the gain setting set high. Perhaps it’s a result of how it interacted with the amp settings I used but chords sounded a bit choked. Hard to hear but more a sense I got when I was playing.

    Personally I prefer using Big Muffs with less gain and low end for recording as they’re easier to tame and record without too much hiss and rumble but I’m sure EHX didn’t have my studio setup in mind when they designed this beast.

    So, the big question is – is the Triangle capable of replicating David Gilmour’s tones? I plugged into my old Deluxe Electric Mistress (yes, David used the ’76 model) and to my ears at least, it got me very close to those early 80s Wall tones.

    That low end rumble and the throaty, almost hollow sounding tone just came pouring out of the speakers and I love how you really need to work with the pedal to control the feedback and make that a part of your tone.

    The Triangle might be a challenge on the more mids scooped amps, especially if you’re trying to replicate David Gilmour’s tones (read more about choosing the right pedals for your amp) but regardless of how close this actually is to the original Triangle, this one should appeal to every Muff and Gilmour fan.

    I’m not going to start a debate over clones here but EHX offer some serious competition with this new line of Big Muff reissues and it’s about time. A huge applause to EHX for finally embracing their Big Muff heritage! Now, we can only hope for a Ram’s Head…

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106 Responsesso far.

  1. Maciek says:

    Hi, Bjorn.
    If you would have to choose only one Muff from between: Triangle, Russian and Ram’s Head, one that does it all, when it comes to Gilmour tones, especially these form 80’s to nowadays, which one would you pick up?
    Greetings from Poland.

    • Bjorn says:

      None of them does it all as they’re all different with different qualities but if you’re asking for my favourite it would have to be the Green Russian.

  2. Ricardo Filipe da Costa Lopes says:

    Hello Bjorn. Today EHX released a reissue of a Rams Head Big Muff (V2). I hope you can review it soon. Best regards.

  3. Berke Y says:

    Hi Björn,

    What do you think about the funky fill distortion sound of Echoes from Gdansk record? Is that Triangle+Trex or G2-Delay? I’ve read your articles about Gdansk and “Classic tone: Echoes”. You’ve written it as G-2+Delay. Wondering what would you say?

  4. Alejandro Díaz Rodríguez says:

    Hey, can i use this pedal with a bass?

  5. David Austin says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    I’ve had a BYOC Large Beaver (Rams Head variant) for a number of years now and love it. With my Laney Cub cab and head, MXR carbon copy and electric mistress, I can get some great Animals/Wall tones.

    When I saw your review of the new EHX Triangle (and the Green Russian), I was torn. Should I get it, do I need it or do I just want it?! Well, picked one up today and it’s great! Yes, they are very similar and I didn’t really need it but I am genuinely glad I got it. It’s different enough to keep and I think it’ll replace the BYOC, for a while at least.

    I was surprised at the gain on it. It has quite a bit more than the BYOC (I thought the Rams Head would trump the triangle on the gain front), and sustains forever. It’s brighter and smoother (less aggressive maybe?) than the BYOC I think and waaay louder!

    I think overall the BYOC is a better bet purely because of the mids selector which obviously allows you to cover more ground and cut through in a live situation but I’m loving the triangle for now! My strat needs some new strings so dug out the tele and have been playing the solos from Dogs; it sounds so good!

    EHX have done a great job on this pedal. Totally agree with you that it sounds really authentic is up there with the best of the clones.

    Now, do I want/need a Green Russian?! Probably not, but it’s not gonna stop me lusting after one!

    Thank you for all your work on this website; it’s been my go to for all things Gilmour for years now and you’ve done a stellar job!


    • Bjorn says:

      Hi David! Well yes, the old BYOC and EHX Triangle are a bit different. I would say that the BYOC is more mellow, less gain and lows and over all more in the overdrive territory. The EHX is much more aggressive but probably more authentic as well. At least compared to the original Triangles I’ve played. I like them both for different purposes. The Green Russian is perhaps closer to the BYOC, with a tad more mids – which you can dial in on the BYOC as well – but the same gain structure.

    • Michael McGinnis says:

      I have a green Russian and I love it. Sorrow and on the turning away sound so good with it. Running d allen echoes pickups that were so generously gifted to me(forever grateful) and the tones I get are just amazing.

  6. ruodi says:

    The first thing that I thought was – no, please, not the black Stratocaster! My second thought was – is it affordable? ;-)

  7. Tom says:

    Hi there ! I’m a long time reader of your website (I made 90% of my gear with it for ten years now) and a follower of your bands, and albums. I can see that we’ll have some new things in 2019. Can’t wait !

    Anyway, I’m gonna ask for your clear-sightedness. My favorit David’s tone, definitly, is on the Is There Anybody Out There tour 1980-81. I’m looking for that swirly and flangy tone. I’m getting closer and closer year after year. But it still miss ONE great piece. The muff and the booster. I’ve tried some but I need your help on that last buy. Here my setup : (Fender Classic Player 50 (SSL-5, and 60’s handmade pickups + Laney L5 Stack + Deluxe Mistress 1999 + TC FLashback + ProCo RAT (T-Rex fueltank isolated), I’m just playing for my homestudio (no gig planned yet), and it’s okay if I have to pay for good pedals.

    So I was going to order the Pig Hoof MK II, and the Banana boost, to buckle the buckle but I don’t want to miss that shot. I’ve read all of your muff reviews, and that’s why I’m confused. What would be your choice if your were me in that case, for home studioing, and to get that The Wall live tone ?

    Thanks a lot. Funny that I feel like I grew up with your website. I’m a young adult now, and I still there waiting for your reviews. And killing my bank account, like all of us haha. Thans for all Bjorn !

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Tom! Thanks for all the kind words! Yeah, the site’s been around for a while now… I feel old, ha ha!
      Obviously tone isn’t just about the pedals. That’s pretty much my mantra on this site. With the right know-how you can make pretty much anything sound like Gilmour but that takes a bit of experimentation and experience. You should be able to get very close with what you have so I would start with the amp settings and just go from there. The MkII and Banana are great but none of them are designed for smaller bedroom amps. You might find that thet really do need a bigger amp, with a bit of volume to really open them up but they should do fine on smaller setups to. Don’t forget the new EHX Green Russian though. Not actually Wall material but definitely well worth checking out for David’s Muff tones in general.

  8. Vico says:

    Would you recommend EHX Triangle Muff reissue or Mooer Triangle Buff?

  9. Vico says:

    What would you recommend electro harmonix reissue or mooer triangle buff?

  10. KEITH says:

    So glad to see Matthews reissue the first pedals I ever played through, I hope he keeps going! On a similar note, and you may know this, but while in Sam Ash last week I saw that Wazacraft, in conjunction with Boss has reissued the CE2 at the incredible price of $99.00! I didn’t have time to play it yet, but will hopefully get to it this weekend! I hope it truly is the same circuit, and is tuned to sound exactly like the original! And if a real CE2 can be had for under $100, I’m there!! Hope you, your family, and your many friends, and readers are all doing well, and I will be around more now that IveI mostly recovered from an August 29th major back surgery, that required a 12 inch incision, 4 rods, 12 screws, and pieces of bone from my hip to fuse 7 vertebrae into one solid piece. Hopefully this, my 3rd back surgery since 1977 will be my last.
    Peace, lots of love, and Gear, Gear, Gear!!!

    • Bjorn says:

      Good to have you back Keith and to hear that the surgery went well! We’ve missed having you around :)

      • KEITH says:

        Has anyone played the wazacrWaz/Boss CE-2? Because of my back, I could only go into the shop to say hello, and didn’t get a chance to play through it. It looks correct, but looks can decieve! If it is the real deal, I can probably get one for $75-80.00! That sounds great to me. If you know anything about this pedal Bjorn, or anyone else, please let me know so I can snatch one before they’re gone, or the price goes up.
        Peace y’all, KEITH

  11. John E says:

    I have a Triangle on the way. I’m anxious to gig with it. Great demo video, Bjorn!

  12. John E. says:

    Bjorn, how do you like the Triangle compared with the Russian? I had a Russian in the 90s. It was a big pedal that came in a wooden box. The packaging was very cool. It was a gnarly sounding pedal that didn’t want to be tamed.

    • Bjorn says:

      I’ve answered that in the comments on this thread. They’re two different pedals I think. The Triangle is more vintage sounding, more raw and wild sounding. The Green Russian has a slightly more tamed tone, more mids and compression. I like both for different applications :)

  13. Stuart says:

    Hi Bjorn, just discovered your amazing site and see how much work you put into this and understand your passion for music is huge and your knowledge and presentation of equipment is fascinating. Have a classic and acoustic guitar but the time has come to buy a Fender stratocaster. Question: Lets say that the price is not a question, but the acoustic tone is important, would you go for a new one, or older version, cheaper Squire and rebuild, Japanese, Mexican or strictly usa, signature or classic, love the spec of David Gilmore’s black, would be nice to have something valuable or has this nothing to do with the sound and play-ability, A acquaintance of mine in Skien Dan Riis plays a good guitar, Family?

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Stuart, thanks for the kind words! Very sorry for my late reply. No, I don’t think we’re related :)
      See my guide to buying new guitars here. You’ll find tips and what to look for. My personal opinion has always been that it doesn’t matter what sort of brand or model you buy as long as you feel comfortable with it. There are lots of opinions and debates on this out there but it all comes down to taste and preference. My best tip is to try a bunch of different brands and models to get an idea of what’s available. Good luck!

  14. Gergely Riba says:

    Hey Bjorn, have you seen the official release video of this product?
    I think the intro of the video which is a CN solo is the best sound I ever heard. I have the Buffalo Ram”s head, the V-2 by Vick Audio but never could reach this perfect sound with my expensive boutique pedals. Now in this video I can not believe what I hear by a common reissued pedal…

  15. simalex says:

    hey all:

    i just got a triangle. i am in love. i heard all the vids and so i know that triangles are their own thing, but it’s still different when you plug one in, and find that yes, the triangle *really does* have its own muff sound.

    it’s like, clearer or more transparent than a pumpkins style op-muff, but it also has tons of viscous, heaviness to it. backing off the guitar’s vol seems to take me into more “muff fuzz overdrive” territory.

    my current set-up goes as follows:

    jazzmaster -> tubescreamer -> deluxe muff -> triangle muff -> deluxe reverb

    i’m using the deluxe muff as essentially a graphic eq w/ fuzz, for a lead boost. i’m still very much in the tinkering phase, but there are some **searing** lead sounds to be had this way.

  16. Chris chaney says:

    I raised my master some and it helped but, still what causes that volume drop is it the already hot pickups into a compressor although gilmour uses it that way. I cant even explain how monstrous a sound it is with the blues driver and the muff together the manual actually shows how to use driver like a booster a crunch British blues etc thank you so much for recommending it. You are a smart man.

  17. Chris chaney says:

    Im using emg dg 20 pickups as long as my compressor is of everything sounds killer then i turn on my compressor and its like i lost my hearing i even turned up output didnt help.

  18. Chris chaney says:

    Hey, i got my blues driver sounds awsome through my dsl 40cr this is the order guitar into compressor into blues driver into green Russian is that right or should muff go before blues driver. My biggest problem is when i turn on my dyna comp my volume drops incredibly so its unusable what am i doing wrong?

    • Bjorn says:

      Whether a booster should go first or last depends on what tones you want. First adds more gain. Last adds more tone and volume. Keep in mind that your amp has a good ammount of compression and when you add two dirt pedals on top of that it gets very compressed. I wouldn’t add a compressor in addition to that. It will kill what’s left of the dynamics in your tone. If you do though, roll back the sustain a bit and increase the volume. That should solve the volume drop.

      • Chris chaney says:

        Thank you, it worked and you have been kind to help me so much some of your answers i had already thought about but you made my judgements valid. When i first saw your site years ago i thought another guy like me who didnt here pink floyd til eighties and nineties. I get so angry sometimes when people say Rodger was floyd no he wrote lyrics, played bass and his voice although unique was not like gilmour’s who was more a natural singing voice. If you take out gilmour floyd would not be floyd. Then i heard another brick in the wall part 2 in 1979 at six years old i was floored and had never heard anything like it then i saw david playing dogs of war solo on mtv and my life was changed forever as i had just started playing guitar weeks earlier.

  19. Alireza Rowshan Nahad says:

    Hi Bjorn
    About that gating effect on the high gain settings, I believe that either the input signal is so much big or the pedal has so much gain that causes such gating effects like this.
    Moreover when such pedals like Big Muffs and Fuzz Faces are being preceded by a Pedal with a buffer in bypass mode (like BOSS) this effect can be had even with just a little hot pick ups.
    Yours Ali

  20. Bo says:

    How do you like it compared to the vick audio rams head ?

    • Bjorn says:

      Two different sounding Muffs. The Triangle has a more vintage flavour, more low end and overall a more aggressive tone. The Vick has more gain but the mid range booster makes it more versatile I guess.

  21. Toni says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    My beloved amp is a Victory V50, it’s a two channel head, 50/15 watts with valves: 4 x 12AX7, 1 x 12AT7, 2 x EL34. I love the amp, the one and only snag is that I don’t know which muff would fit with it. I tried a Jam Pedals Red Muck, but it got lost in the mix within the context of rehearsal though I tried to push the mids and give an extra punch with several boosters and/or overdrives. I guess it’s just the sort of amp as you have already explained in an other one of your entries but unfortunately I haven’t got a clue where fits my amp in your explanation and what muff would suit him well.

    Big thanks!

    • Bjorn says:

      The amp should provide a nice platform for your Big Muffs but the pedals doesn’t have a lot of compression and mid range, so unless you boost it further, you will probably drown in the mix. You can obviously compensate on the amp, by boosting the mids, or add an EQ. David boosts after the Muff, to get a bit of compression and mid range character and not so much gain or volume. It’s just the nature of Big Muffs so if nothing seem to work, then you might want to check out pedals like a Rat or OCD.

  22. Chris chaney says:

    Which is your favorite bjorn, the triangle or the green Russian muff. What are the differences.

    • Bjorn says:

      I like both but I guess the green is my favourite. It has a bit less gain, more mids and an overall more controlled character.

  23. Brad Roller says:

    I actually think it sounded best set up like a fuzz face. It was actually very very convincing. Not many muffs ive tried are able to get all the harmonics like a FF. listening to Animals closely, and live recordings from that time, it sounds almost as if David set his muff up similar to his Fuzz Face. I guess that makes sense considering it was a new beast to him. Seeing as how similar they sounded I always wondered why he gave up his FF and ability to control with the guitar volume. Don’t get me wrong, I know a muff has some things a fuzz doesn’t but when you listen to those animals bootlegs, it sounds VERY close to his dark side tones from the previous tours.

    • Bjorn says:

      I’ve been using the Triangle a lot lately and it’s really grown on me. Always hard to pin down the exact tones on a recording but I’m very happy with what I hear when I crank everything in my studio :) David’s Animals board did feature a DA FF so he might have used it for some stuff. Hard to tell. They did play Money as an encore at least. Hard to tell why he decided on using the Muff instead but I would assume that he probably found them more reliable both in how the performed and sounded. This was also a period when new pedals emerged all the time and Floyd were all about experimenting and trying new things. If you listen closely to the Animals tour in particular, he must have had the tone control on the Muff set pretty high. Probably around noon or maybe even higher, which adds to the Fuzz Face character.

      • Brad Roller says:

        The triangle muff is the only model I don’t have. Im gonna have to get one. As for him setting the tone control high, ive found this to get me the best animals tour tone on my rams head muff from byoc. It seems that later on into the wall he started toning it down some and pushing the master a bit more to get a bit smoother tone. Another reason for dropping the fuzz could be as simple as “holy shit something new” and just using it because he was tired of using the same thing all the damn time lol we are spoiled in all the endless possibilities of pedals and models but for him it must have bee exciting

      • Frank Bizzoco says:

        This is my favorite tone. That 77 tour. Dogs in particular. Also Pigs. It has eluded me, until just reading your comment that the tone knob seems like it is more ro the right than on other tours. My BYOC Triangle just died, and it seems like a perfect time to pick up an EHX triangle. Unless I want to use the Vick audio v2 for the time being, and wait for EHX to reissue the rams head. It would only make sense that they eventually will. Triangle capable of recreating those Animals 77 tones coupled with a mistress?

  24. Rob says:

    you still play with Tortex Pitch Black Jazz 1mm, Bjorn? haven’t got a new favorite since?

  25. Chris chaney says:

    Just one more thing your site is great, i got into david the same as you i was about sixteen or so when delicate sound of thunder came out and i love that era of floyd and david. I have emg dg 20 pickups in my strat and to me the songs like yet another movie those deep cuts but, the solos are unreal and i think his best on that dvd/cd.

  26. Chris chaney says:

    Yes, it is as close as you can get i am about to get a blues driver next maybe that will cover the shine on type tones i saw david with pink floyd in birmingham alabama sunday may 1st 1994 on the division bell tour will never forget it.

  27. Lucas Maciel says:

    Hi Bjorn! Try to make a review of a pedal! Deep Trip Muffasaur! It’s from Brazil! They make superb fuzzes here in my country! Thanks!!!

  28. Troy says:

    Hey guys, let’s not have a civil war about it! ;D

  29. Chris chaney says:

    I believe that a civil war version is coming soon that would complete the circle somewhat

  30. Chris chaney says:

    Will this pedal work well with my new marshall dsl 40cr i have the new green russian and it does well. I find the new dsl 40 cr takes pedals better than the old dsl because of some changes they made what is your opinion

    • Bjorn says:

      The DSL series is great! A bit of classic and modern Marshall in one amp and they can handle pedals very well. I haven’t spent enough time with it to say that the Triangle works well with it but in general, I would say that Muffs often sound too aggressive with Marshall due to the amp’s boosted mids, compression and less headroom. But, as always, it depends on the amp setting and your pickups.

  31. Ken says:

    Great post Bjorn! Would you consider doing a Youtube segment on tones from David’s deep cuts such as No More Lonely Nights or rare tracks from About Face/David Gilmour albums? Keep up the great work my friend.

  32. Silvio says:

    Hello. I wanted to ask you, considering the broad mid-range, how sound is similar to the vick sound 73 ram’s head or are they very different? Greetings

    • Bjorn says:

      I don’t thin the Triangle has much mid range but it has a lot of gain and output. The Vick has a mid range booster that allow a bit more mids.

  33. Armin says:

    Hi Bjorn! Great review as always!

    How would you say this pedal compares to the BYOC Big Muff triangle version?

    • Bjorn says:

      Thanks! They’re definitely in that same tone family but the Triangle is much more aggressive sounding I think. More gain and output. The BYOC is warmer and more balanced I guess.

  34. louisnd says:

    Thanks for the review! I think I’ll stick with the Russian for now – and wait for the “Ram’s Head” if there is ever one made. I previously owned the nano and switch to the Russian – less agressive pedal I think.
    But I think its really cool that EHX finally decided to reissue the (almost) whole line of classic Muff.

  35. Scott S. says:

    Hello Bjørn,

    Very informative review as always, sounds terrific. Frankly, you make everything sound fantastic. I noticed you just hang your e906 down in front of the speaker. I’m curious when your are recording, this video for instance how loud are you running you amp?

    • Bjorn says:

      Thanks! Yes, it’s hanging there for conveniance :) Makes it easy to just turn everthing on and recording without having to worry about placement each time. I play at about band level I guess. Quite loud but the mic can handle it. Ideally I think that Muffs and heavier fuzz and distortion often sound better if you allow them to breathe a bit so whenever I record for albums, I use a SM57 about 4″ off the cab.

  36. Keith M. says:

    Sounds great Bjorn! I’ve been using the Royal Beaver and the DG1 for years, are these re-issues worth the up-grade? as always thank you for all you do for us and best of luck with your new project!

    • Bjorn says:

      Well, I can’t reallt answer that. It’s all about taste and my taste might be very different to yours :) I love the BYOC and RB but the Triangle does sound quite different from what you get from those pedals. Much more gain, grit and output. It’s a much more aggressive and perhaps vintage sounding pedal.

      • Keith M. says:

        Well Bjorn i kinda expected that answer… while i’ve gotten used to those pedals with my rig i guess it’s time to go for it and try something different! with you recommendation i’m sure i cant go wrong! Thanks again your always one i can count on!

  37. Arya Boustani says:

    Thanks Bjorn. I was counting days for your review to come out. Using Reeves Custom 50, which one do you think is going to give THAT sound for Gilmour tones (if I have to choose between two)? I’m playing on 90s Fender with ’69 neck and and SSL5 bridge pickups. Also do you know when they recreate the old pedal, does it mean they stick to the circuitry values or also they try to find vintage capacitors, etc. I think some of those vintage components are not perfect and end up have more complex tone as a result.

    • Bjorn says:

      For the Reeves, or Hiwatts, I would say that the Triangle is pretty dead on the Animals, DG78, Wall, Final Cut era while the Green Russian is close to the Pulse tones. You can use each for each era though…
      I’m no expert on the technical stuff or how they created it but from what I understand, EXH has studied a couple of original circuits and picked the best features from each. It’s by no means reverse engineered but more an attempt to capture the essence of the early Muff.

      • Arya Boustani says:

        Thanks a lot Bjorn. I definitely have a better idea now.
        Which Big Muff while close to David’s tone has more of that older circuit mojo. I’m ok if it doesn’t sound as ironed out as triangle. To my ears, Triangle (I have BYOC Triangle and I thing it’s sort of the same kind of clean and smooth distortion) is almost too sterile compared to Gilmour tones, unless there are other contributors like amp, speakers, additional processing that adds to the complexity of the tone. What do you think about coupling EHX Triangle or Green Russian with Tube Driver on low overdrive setting to add to the tone complexity and also boosting the low end in case of Green Russian?
        Thanks again ??

        • Bjorn says:

          To my ears the new Traingle has all the mojo and character of those old units. The BYOC, although one of my favourites, sound much more polished. You can’t really compare my review with what you hear on those old live recordings from the 70s. Nor the albums. There’s so much going on and when you hear my reviews, you hear a fairy small and modest setup, dry recording and not a lot of tweaking. I warmly recommend the Triangle but as always it comes down to taste.

  38. Liung Yit says:

    in addiction:
    about BIG MUFF TRIANGLE………


    0. The triangle would seem to be the most powerful big muff that has ever been made.It’s correct ?

    1. Which product would you choose between VICK AUDIO mod. V.1 TRIANGLE, ELECTRO HARMONIX mod.
    BIG MUFF TRIANGLE (xo ultimate edition) and B.Y.O.C. mod. LARGE BEAVER TRIANGLE ?


    • Bjorn says:

      Well, that depens on what you mean by “powerful”. Yes, it’s loud and it has lots of gain but it all depends on what amp you’re using. It doesn’t have much mid range, so on scooped amps I would probably go for a Green Russian.
      I like all of them so it comes down to what features you need and what sort of Muff tones you prefer.
      As I’ve tried to stress throughout this site – it all depends on the amp. Some amps doesn’t go well with Muffs at all.

      • Liung Yit says:

        Yes, I agree with you, in fact all the new production ELECTRO HARMONIX does not sound like the products of the years ’69 -’70: they have a few harmonics.
        The BIG MUFF of the past, they were devastating

  39. Frank says:

    Hi Bjorn!
    I have the possibility to buy a used 1977 Big muff and would like to know if you have ever tried one of them. Do you think it’s close to the triangle?

    • Bjorn says:

      Hard to tell as those 70s models often don’t age that well and, even within each model, they tended to sound very different from one another due to different parts etc. I would say that the Triangle is very close to those early circuits but it can easily match up to a Violet Ram’s Head and even the OP Amp model too.

  40. Scott says:

    So if you can only buy one muff for Gilmour tones is it the triangle or the Green Russian?

    • Bjorn says:

      I can’t answer that. Depends on what tones I need and what amp I use. The Triangle is perhaps best for David’s Animals/Wall tones while the GR is closer to his 90s tones.

  41. Julius says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    thanks for the great review and fantastic playing! For reaching David Gilmour The Wall tones do you think
    the triangle muff is as good as the pig hoof or the vick audio 73 rams head?
    Kind regards,

    • Bjorn says:

      Hm… they all offer something unique I guess. The Vick is probably the most versatile of the three, with the mid range booster, but I like them all. The Pig Hoof and Triangle is somewhat similar but for me, the Pig Hoof will always be special.

  42. David Dyte says:

    Agreed about EHX and these Big Muff re-releases. It’s such a gift to have them for a good price, sounding amazing, and with the extra mojo of being from the original company.

  43. Les Helgeson says:

    Bjorn, thank you for another great review! I’ve been thinking of adding this new pedal to my board since the price is certainly reasonable. I was about to sell my Fender Deluxe Reverb a while back when I took advantage of a sale price for a Buffalo Carrera overdrive. I had intended to purchase a TDX to use with another amp (L5 Studio) so took a gamble thinking added mid-range would be good. So far it seems to be a marriage made in heaven! I am also using a YellowSquash compressor per your advice and it also mates very well with this particular setup. Guitar is a modified Strat with Seymour Duncan P-Rails. What do you think about stacking the Triangle with the Carrera for additional fuzz tone options?


    • Bjorn says:

      Yes, the Carrera is a very good match with the Lionheart! I haven’t tried it with the Triangle but I would imagine that it might be a bit too much. The Triangle has a lot of output and gain and it might be hard to tame that combo… but again, I haven’t tried it.

  44. Liung Yit says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    definely , what do you think about TRIANGLE (xo ultimate edition) ….it has many harmonic frequencies and mediosity, or it is knackered as BIG MUFF PI (2000 edition) ?
    ….better to consider others model, for example LITTLE BIG MUFF (xo), BIG MUFF TONE WICKER (xo), BASS BIG MUFF (xo) or GREEN RUSSIAN (xo)?
    Which of these would you recommend?


    • Bjorn says:

      Depends on what sort of Muff tones you’re looking for. I think EHX has managed to capture the essence of the early Muff circuit but it does sound very different from the other Muff models. I don’t care much for the Lille BM, Tone Wicker and all of the spin-offs but it’s about taste, isn’t it? The Bass Muff and Green Russian are very similar but very different to the Triangle.

  45. Trav Huey says:

    Great review, Bjorn. I love this pedal. In the 1990s, I used a Sovtek Big Muff (which I also loved), but found that it was difficult to keep from sounding muddy or blurry. Comparatively, the Triangle Big Muff seems much easier to dial in and control; it takes a lot to get it to sound muddy. With such clarity (to my ears), it suits where I’m trying to take my lead tone. I love your page and your YouTube channel, keep up the great work.

  46. Michael McGinnis says:

    Thank you for the review. I’ve been waiting for it ever since I found out about this pedal. How do you think it would sound on my Laney Cub 12? I have D. Allen Echoes in my guitar.

  47. Troy says:

    Hi Bjorn

    Thanks for your review. I’ve been looking at these & the BYOC version of the Triangle. I believe that you also have the latter.

    The BYOC guy has a clip where he A/B compares his clone against an original & apart from much less noise on the clone they soind identical in every position. I believe that it uses original transistors.

    Have you any info on how the BYOC Triangle compares in terms of mid scoop (same or less? I know that on the BYOC you can boost mids but how does this EH compared to the BYOC’s stock scooped setting?), gating (hopefully not), output level & gain?

    BYOC also do versions of the Ram’s Head & 90’s Russian Muffs. I think that you have the former but am not sure if you have the latter. It would be interesting to your current thoughts on how well their Ram’s Head does for 70’s/80’s DG Muff tones & if you have heard their take on the classic Russian Muff how it compares with the new EH take on that.

    The BYOC’s are obviously more versatile with the three way switch to go between the stock tone & two different levels of mid-boost & recently they all have a tone control bypass switch added to all versions. Basic stock sounds compared to EH’s new takes on these & to DG tones is what interests me.

    As an aside: I know that it is to save costs in terms of tooling but it is a shame that EH didn’t go all out & reproduce the pedal casing of the originals (with possibly modern concessions to having a Boss standard power jack & an activation LED). Like how Wren & Cuff did for their take on the Ram’s Head with the Caprid. Also: Rear mounted jacks would have been more welcome than side jacks for may of us. They should do this across their range as that was a part of classic EH design & works so well on modern pedalboards. BYOC have started doing this. I might get both theirs & EH’s but some comparative insight from yourself would be welcome.

    Many thanks!

    – Troy

    • Bjorn says:

      I think EHX’s goal was to reissue the original Muff and in the same price point as their Nano line. Obviously, they also want to reclaim the Muff market and be a serious competitor to the many clones out there. I think they have succeeded but it’s always a matter of taste. There are lots of clones out there that both look amazing and that feature all sorts of tweaks and features but I don’t think that was what EHX was trying to do.

      They’ve reissued a version of the Triangle that’s based on several different circuits and the result capture the essence of those early models but it does sound very different from the BYOC. That doesn’t mean that one is better than the other. It just means that you have more options :)

      • Troy says:

        Thanks for the response Bjorn.

        At least both BYOC’s & EH’s takes on these classic Muffs are nicely priced enough to get both. :D

  48. Rob M. says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    I currently use a Green Russian reissue and a BYOC Large Beaver in my rig and I love both of them. How does the the new Triangle reissue compare to the Large Beaver? Are they pretty similar when the Large Beaver is set to Triangle mode or is the new reissue worth an additional investment?

    • Bjorn says:

      The BYOC has been one of my favourite Big Muffs for years. The Triangle has a lot more gain and output compared to the BYOC, wich is considerably darker sounding, with less gain. Two different types of early Muff I would say.

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