• Gurus Amps Echosex 2 review

    GurusAmps Echosex 2 review

    Delay is essential for capturing the true essence of David Gilmour’s tones. It’s been the staple of his setup since the late 60s and his use of the Binson Echorec defined the sound of Pink Floyd in the early days. The Gurus Echosex has gained a reputation of being one of the better Binson delays on the market. Naturally, I had to check it out. Here’s my review of their limited edition Echosex 2.

    The 50s and 60s was the era of the echo, or tape machines. The Italian made Binson (which were designed around a disc or drum, rather than tape) was one of many but made famous by guitarists like Hank Marvin and David Gilmour. That ethereal, almost reverb-ish quality, was different to most other models and brands, and the Binson soon gained a legendary status.

    Vintage delay, or echo, is as fashionable as ever and more and more pedal makers try to capture the tone and vibe of those old units. There’s something about that warm tone, the tape flutter and modulation and the grainy decay that makes vintage echo so musical and instantly recognisable.

    The Echosex has been available for some time but to celebrate the company’s 20th anniversary, Guru recently released a limited edition of the pedal, made to look like the old Binson Echorec, including a glowing eye!

    The Echosex feature large, easy access knobs controlling bass/treble (tone filter), flutter/modulation, volume, swell/feedback and time. It feature buffered bypass (with options for trails or no trails) and runs on 9-12V adapter power. Inside there is a double triode 12AX7B tube.

    There are several reviews out there covering the different features of the Echosex, so I won’t go into detail here but rather focus on the tone. See also gurusamps.it for more info.

    The first thing that strikes me is how warm and organic this thing sounds. The repeats has that slight percussive attack, with a smooth decay that blends perfectly with your playing. Unlike most delays, which simply repeats the notes, the Echosex adds room and texture.

    On a clean guitar, the Echosex deliver clean echo, with plenty of headroom. Blended with dirtier sounds, the Echosex gets an almost reverb-like character, with rich sustain. This is so typically for David Gilmour’s tones and the way he often blended screaming fuzz with the Binson.

    David Gilmour always kept his Binson units pristine, which indicates that there was minimal tape flutter and modulation. The Echosex allow you to dial in the amount you want, from zero to deep modulation, sounding like a unit badly in need of maintenance. It sounds authentic and blends beautifully with your tones.

    One this you might miss is the multi head feature of the old Binsons, which allowed you to dial in some pretty complex echo patterns. The Echosex has one single tap. It would be interesting to hear that compared to the Calalinbread Echorec. Still, I don’t consider it a draw back. The Echosex has a lot to offer as it is.

    There are several great sounding tape echo pedals out there. Both the real deal and simulations. The two that perhaps comes closest to the Echosex is the Catalinbread Echorec and the classic Deluxe Memory Man.

    The Echosex is kind of a mix between these two. It has the Binson sound of the Catalinbread and the organic flavour and warmth of the Memory Man. Still, and as much as I love these two, the Echosex plays in a entirely different league. The Catalinbread has the multi head feature but the overall tone of the pedal is flat and dull compared to the almost 3D quality of the Echosex. The Memory Man is hard to beat but it is noisy and the modulation is really just a chorus. The Echosex is dead silent and the modulation sounds like really tape wear or flutter.

    The verdict? It’s always hard to describe a delay or echo unit because how they ultimately sound depends on your guitar, amp and other pedals but to keep it short: the Echosex is no doubt the best sounding echo pedal I’ve ever tried. And I’ve tried a few. You can really hear the dedication, knowledge and love that went into designing and producing this thing.

    Gurus has managed the difficult task of capturing true analog tape echo in a pedal with stunning authenticity. Whether you’re into 60s surf, rockabilly slap back or David Gilmour’s spaced out tones, the Echosex is as good as it gets. Highly recommended!

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107 Responsesso far.

  1. Martin Stewart says:

    Hey Bjorn,

    Do you have any idea how the Echosex 2 or Ltd editions compare sound quality wise to the Echosex baby.

  2. Rob says:

    Hi Bjorn – just heard Gurus is releasing a new version the T7E – will you be reviewing it? http://www.guitarplayer.com/effects/1018/gurus-amps-announces-echosex-2-t7e-pedal/63378


  3. BRUNNO TINOCO says:

    Hello, Bjorn. First of all, thank you very very much for all the love you share in your website! I’m a HUGE Gilmour fan, but by now you are tight up with him as my number one idol! I have all your music (solo and Airbag) and I love it. Thanks a lot for everything!

    I have a question: I’ve got a Strymon El Capistan, and would like to know how it compares to this Echosex pedal. I don’t have the opportunity to try them out before I purchase them, so I trust you blindly when I choose my gear. I also have a Carbon Copy delay, which sometimes I like more than the El Capistan.

    So could you please point your opinion on these three pedals compared?

    Thanks a lot, bro! Keep up the good work!!!

    • Bjorn says:

      Thanks for your kind words, Brunno! Glad you enjoy my site. The Echosex is perhaps closer to the old EHX Deluxe Memory Man than a Binson. It has those smooth and dark repeats, natural decay and a beaufiful modulation. Not as dark as the Carbon but considerably darker than the Echorec. What I like about the Echosex though is that they’ve managed to create that almost reverb-like space on the repeats, which the Carbon doesn’t have. The El Capistan can do a bit of both and it has more options and you know.

  4. Thomas says:

    I bought an Echosex2 Ltd. after selling my Caitlinbread. It sounds so much better and I don’t miss the other confusing Binson features. Now waiting for the ultimate from Effectrode to come out. A law in music gear: tubes sound better!

  5. Mariano says:

    Hi Bjorn ,
    Can you confirm if delay times goes up to 440 or 660 on the ltd? The standard goes to 660.

  6. Don says:

    Hi Bjorn. Love this site. I always turn to this site when ever I need a question answered which is almost always. I am a little confused about putting effects in the effects loop of my amp. Some of my friends say effects loops are for wimps and some swear by them. I have a Mesa Boggie dual rec and an Egnater Rebel 30. I some times run them in stereo for a wider spread. What is your feeling about effects loops? Thx. Don

    • Bjorn says:

      Thanks for your kind words, Don! It all depends on how you use the amps and I think you’re friends have misunderstood why one would use a loop :) Modulations and delays sound best after gain, so if you use the amp for cleans and run all your gain from pedals, then there is no need to use the loop. Run all your pedals into the front input. You can also experiment with cranking the amp slightly and hear how that affects the modulations and delays. You don’t want too much bleed but some can be a cool effect. If you depend on the amp to produce gain, then you probably want to run the modualtions and delays in the loop. If not, they will sound muddy and all over the place. It also depends on how well the loop is designed. Some amps have one but it will drain both volume and top end, while other amps have a tube in the loop or a loop that’s well balanced.

  7. Ian Babbitt says:

    WANT! *looks at empty wallet* …oh, yeah…

  8. starwalketluke says:

    Hello, have to test you Catalinbread Echorec 18v?If yes, what difference with the version 9v?I think of buying to myself Catalinbread Echorec, is it a good choice for the price(prize), for pink floyd?Thank you.

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi, yeah, it has a bit more headroom on 18V and it sounds slightly more open. It’s a great alternative for the early era. For Wall and up to present, you need a digital unit for the pristine and accurate repeats.

  9. starwalkerluke says:

    Hi all, is what you know Ibanez ad 202 ?
    This is an old rack 100% analog I buy it several months ago .
    The delay has a very organic !!

  10. Biagio says:


    I’m just wondering. If I wanted to play rockabilly, think Gliff Gallup of Gene Vincent, or Jeff Beck in the Les Paul Tribute (who I heard used a Binson for the performance), would this work? Thanks!

    • Bjorn says:

      Definitely. All of those guys used tape echo for their slap back and the Echosex can deliver that percussive attack and spacious sound.

  11. Troy says:

    I’ve been reading up on the Binson Echorec-emulating Dawner Prince Boonar:


    I have the Catalinbread Echorec & have been on the fence on the Gurus Echosex 2 mainly due to its lack of individual & combination selections of the four “heads”.

    The Boonar doesn’t have any valves but then again the Binson Echorec 2 model T7E had seven & the Gurus unit I believe has just the one, so this is less of an deal-breaker issue either way. The long-awaited Effectrode Echo-Delay would however likely have three valves (& maybe a fourth internal one for the “magic eye”) so this would have some definite sonic appeal.

    The Boonar has had a couple of tweaks made over the past week:

    “I just want to inform you that we have slightly adjusted the tonal response of the playback heads outputs on the Boonar in the new batch. It is slightly darker, sounds even more organic and cavernous on the repeats. Tone pot has a bit wider span too.”

    That was from a useful thread at:


    Very useful insights from an owner of two Binsons at these posts:



    I hope that posting those links is okay here.

    Eagerly awaiting this unit to (hopefully) receive the Bjorn treatment! :)

    Some review comparison of the Dawner Prince, Gurus & Catalinbread would be the icing on the cake. I seem to recall that C-bread hadn’t sent a review unit to Gilmourish HQ? Hopefully Dawner Prince will oblige!

  12. Rob says:

    Hi Bjorn – Just saw that another Echorec type delay was released by Dawner Prince – the Boonar. have you had a chance to play it? http://dawnerprince.com/products/boonar

  13. Joshua says:

    Hey Bjorn! On YouTube you said you were using the Arc Effects Soothsayer. Can you please tell me what you’re settings were? Thanks

    • Bjorn says:

      It’s been a while, but I used the boutique setting (far right) and all the controls around 2 o’clock… more or less… I did play ridiculously loud though :)

  14. Analu says:

    What are the settings used on the Echosex? Where do you think is 310ms on the dial

  15. Jae says:

    Just a quick question about this pedal Bjorn.
    I’m looking at ordering it, but I have a question about the delay time. In the product description the delay is listed as up to 600ms and further down the page it is listed as 440ms. I’ve written the seller, but haven’t gotten a reply. What’s your best guess? I do know that my echorec is going to be for sale very soon.

    Thanks for bringing this one to my attention, but most of all thanks for a wonderful site.

    • Bjorn says:

      The limited edition has 600ms. The Standard has a much lower time.

      • Jae says:

        I just wanted to follow up about this wonderful pedal Bjorn.
        I couldn’t help myself, I’m a huge fan of the early Floyd playing and the more I thought about this pedal the more I had to have it. So just be fore Christmas I purchased #177. Easily the most expensive pedal I’ve ever bought, but also the best sounding. And so easy to set up. After 15 minutes I had found most of the sounds I was looking for. Thanks again for making me aware of this wonderful pedal and thank you for your awesome site.


  16. Dean Rutter says:

    Hey! I literally just got one of these but I may have a problem. It’s noisy. To be exact it’s only on the echo. There’s no buzz or hum from the pedal and the dry guitar sound is fine. But as soon as I engage the echo each delay has a slight distortion to it; muffled and muddied. The delay itself works but it’s certainly not clean. Is there a problem with the pedal? Switched off everything sounds fine even with some distortion added so I don’t think its interference. Anyway, I’m not happy with it so I’ll get it replaced. Unfortunately this is the problem when buying online. Absolutely no way to test it first. Oh well.

    • Bjorn says:

      I haven’t noticed any unwanted distortion or muddiness in mine. Like the Binson, this one’s got a dirty decay and the preamp is meant to be fairly hot. I assume that you’ve experimented with the settings and the bypass switches?

      • Dean Rutter says:

        Yeah. Different settings, different guitars, different amps, different leads and different PSU’s. Very noticeable all the same. From what I can discern it certainly has a warm sound, but the noise is too much. (This is a quick vid I did – play it loud – https://www.facebook.com/dean.rutter/videos/vb.100000346635161/1008828752472003/?type=3&theater ). I sent it back and I might try another one. Depends if the store agree it was faulty or it’s supposed to sound like that! If it’s supposed to sound like that then it’s just too noisy for me.

        • Bjorn says:

          Link doesn’t work…

          • Dean Rutter says:

            Bugger. Try this

            Play loud as my iPhone was’nt too close. The noise is like a muffled crackling on the repeats. Shame as it does have a warm tone.

            • Bjorn says:

              Oh… sounds like there’s something very wrong. Mine is dead quiet. I’d send that clip to Gurus Amps and hear what they have to say.

              • Dean Rutter says:

                Oh I’ve sent it back already. Thanks for your input though. I knew something was wrong. I just wanted to be sure I wasn’t going mad!

                • Bjorn says:

                  Let me know how the new one sound :)

                  • Dean Rutter says:

                    Just to let you know the shop I got this from said there was no fault! I still had it returned because of Distance selling regulations. But not faulty? Either another they tried sounded the same or they didn’t want to pay the £7 p+p. I also should point out I got the standard Echosex 2 not the Ltd Ed you have. Still I’m looking at something else now like the Strymon.

                    • Bjorn says:

                      OK, I haven’t tried the standard version so they might have a different noise level. The Ltd is dead silent.

  17. Tim says:

    I have not been at all satisfied with my Boss digital delay pedal and tried out a few others that were equally disappointing, so it didn’t take much arm-twisting to consider the Echosex unit after reading your review. I found one at a discounted price (rare) and it is incredible- delivering everything and more than you described in your article. Coupled with the Vick Audio 73 Rams Head, it is hard to beat, especially if you’ve been struggling to arrive at a sound anywhere near what Gilmour can produce. Thanks for your review of this great pedal, Bjorn!

  18. Antonio says:

    Hi, Bjorn!
    I have a DD20, but I´m feeling the need of a pedal that emulates a tape delay with better quality. I´m thinking about the Strymon Timeline (who covers several kinds of delay, has presets, etc) and the Echosex. What do you think? I feel more inclined to get the Timeline because of its versatility…

  19. Huy Tran says:

    Howdy Bjorn,

    I discovered the JHS Muffuletta Six-in-One Muff Circuit and thought I’d post it here. It has Ram’s Head, Pi, Civil War, Triangle, Russian muff and the last circuit is JHS own take on the muff. Pre-order is $320 AUD.

    I am not sure why but this doesn’t appeal to me at all. It may be because I am wary of the jack of all trades, master at none pedal peddling.

    Also recently got a Yamaha THR10 which has increased the amount of time I play guitar two-fold as it is so easy to just start playing. It also sounds phenomenal. I was never into modelling and preferred analogue and tube amps but the THR completely changed my perception. The Brit Hi amp modeller (based on the JCM800) is just awesome. It sounds like a cross between a fuzz and a rat for me. Actually, it sounds like the Buffalo Evolution but not as dark so it sounds great at all volumes. Recording sounds excellent and is easy as well. Highly recommended to anyone on the fence.

    I really consider modelling amps an option now. Which is probably a bad thing as I want the Kemper Profiler with power amp which is like 2000 euros.

    • Bjorn says:

      Ouch… yeah, they’re expensive but you can get some really authentic sounds. I’m not that experienced with the new generation of modelling, other than a brief test here and there and of course, the digital software versions but it’s definitely something I’ll look into.
      I have a review of the Muffuletta coming up in a couple of weeks.

  20. KEITH says:

    Quite a nice echo unit, very warm sounding, no doubt in part due to the valve. I see a line through the link to their site which I assume to mean they’ve sold all 500 units. Too bad, I would have loved to have gotten my hands on one!! I have the Catalinbread, Carbon copy, and DD-20, so I guess I’m in a pretty good spot as far as delays go, but still have that GASeous feeling when I watch your reviews! Another great choice!
    Peace All, and thanks Bjorn, KEITH

    • Bjorn says:

      Don’t know if they sold them all. I’d send them a request if you’re interested in one. Anyway, it’s an awesome analog-ish Binson type of delay but there are limits to what it can do as well. It does early Gilmour very well but you need a second unit, a digital one, to cover everything.

    • Hi Keith, i don’t know what you’ve noticed on our website.. btw, the completely new website will be online the October 3, (date of world premiere of 1959 Double-decker, as well…) But, no, Ehcosex 2° LTD is still available.. You can check the international dealers page already linked some posts ago..

  21. Ed says:

    Hey Bjorn I was wondering would it be worth it to upgrade my speakers on my twin with the weber Thames ceramic 80w? Or will it still have that nasty fizzy bright character to it no matter what? I really can’t stand the Twin when using any kind of gain whatsoever. Should I just end up getting the Laney Lionheart? Also which model? Combo or head? Thanks!

    • Bjorn says:

      I think the Thames would make it even brighter. Never cared much for the Twin myself but with the right effects, you should have no problem getting some really nice tones with it. The Lionheart range is one of the best kept secrets around… although they start to gain the much deserved attention. Awesome sounding amps and incredibly versatile. I’m using a L20 head, with the matching cab, but check out the new studio version as well :)

  22. pickpink says:

    That’s great to hear, Bjorn! Thanks a ton! BTW, Amplitube 4 was announced just today for October release. Great news! Sounds awesome! Hope they can match Bias FX possibilities! Guitar amp software goes next level! And I hope Guitar Rig 6 is on its way!

  23. Matthias says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    How would you compare the Echosex2 with the TRex Replica? Are they night and day different?
    Take care

    • Bjorn says:

      I would say so. The Replica is basically a hi-def version of the Memory Man. Very close but less noisy. The Echosex has some of that organic quality but it sounds much more 3D-ish and dynamic and the repeats have a more pronounced, almost percussive attack, while the Replica has smoother trails.

  24. Jesús says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    Between Capistan and echosex 2, which would you choose if you could only have one?


  25. Olivier says:

    Ha, Bjorn, I’ve been debating adding an anlog delay to my board.
    Well, technically, it would mean adding an extra board to my setup, as I’ve ran out of space.
    This baby seems to fit the requirement, perfectly.

    Chicco, you might have talked yourself out of a few sales pending the new release :)

  26. Steve says:

    A little off topic but, what do think is a good mobile multi track recorder? I am leaning towards a zoom or a tascam. Any thoughts on this?


    • Bjorn says:

      I’ve only tried a couple of the stereo Zoom models. They are really good. I think IK Multimedia also recently released a HD mic for Smart Phones. Looking forward to try that one.

    • KEITH says:

      I have the Tascam DP 24, and it’s rock solid, and connects to DAWs well if you want to track with it’s 8 simultaneous inputs, then edit, or add effects in a DAW. However, you can go from tracking to mastering with no other accessories needed. I do use a studio rack mounted effects processor, and outboard preamps, but it is a great standalone unit!! And they omitted the unneeded CD burner on the new models, the DP24SD, ANDC32 Sd, so you can now get a quality MTR for just over $300.00, and have more recording power than the Beatles had when they recorded Sgt.Peppers!!! Head to head, every review I’ve read says it’s a better machinebthan the Zoom R24, and it uses SDHC cards, so no real moving parts to make any noiae like a hard drive based MTR.
      Peace, KEITH

  27. Lasse says:

    Where can i buy this. I live in Denmark

  28. Tony says:

    Hi Bjorn, Do you notice any darkening of tone or loss of clarity whatsoever from the guitar’s original signal? Not the repeats, but the actual guitar signal itself? I understand the Limited Edition supposed has improved this. Thank you, Tony

    • Bjorn says:

      Don’t notice any tone alteration. They tweaked the impedance to better match a guitar setup, so I guess they fixed any issues that might have been with the stock model.

      • A slight issue if hi-loss depends by tube.. We do a huge selection before assembling, testing every single tubes in an Echosex circuit thru a TBP looper, just to avoid volume or hi-loss issues, but a little percentage of tubes may change a little their performances in first hours of their live.. Anyway selected tubes fir Echosex are available and very easy to swap..
        (Note that not all 12AX7 tubes may works on Echosex..)

  29. pickpink says:

    Hello Bjorn! I was wondering, did you have time to go through Dave’s setups in Amplitube or it’s still in to-do list? Thank you!

  30. steve says:

    I have a Catalinbread and a flashback and an re 20 and a carbon copy and a visual sound h20 just don’t know if I want to shell out almost $600.00 dollars for another echo but, unfortunately, I probably will curse you Bjorn:) I hate to admit it but, I am a Gilmour addict. Thanks to your great site I am out a small fortune in gear. Not complaining keep the reviews coming! I live in Grand Rapids MI so, I actually went up to the throbak factory and had a tour and met the owners, and bought a Stonebender pedal while I was there, they have a piece of equipment that was owned by Leo Fender that they still use today to wind pickups.


  31. Steve says:

    Quite a price tag though $539.00 American

    • Bjorn says:

      Yep, pretty steep but if you can afford it, it’s definitely worth it. The Catalinbread Echorec is a great alternative but not as authentic sounding.

  32. Steve says:

    That sounds amazing!

  33. Kris says:


    First off great review as always! I’ve been waiting for this one for some time now. I bought the LTD version a few months back as it has been on my board ever since. Use it all the time, lush, 3d effect, that makes everything come to life, not to mention the pedal is beautiful in itself. For those that are on the fence like I was between the Caitlenbread Echorec or Echosex LTD, get this one you will not be disappointed. While the Echosex does not have the multi head that Caitlenbread offers the Echosex offers alot more organic, lush tone. There really is no comparison if you have had a chance to hear both of them.

  34. Rob Pattee says:

    How much and where can I buy one?

  35. Crimson says:

    500 euro for a pedal is overpriced and extreme expensive.

    • Bjorn says:

      Pretty high price but which pedal isn’t overpriced, consider that it’s only a box with wires? Keep in mind though that small companies have higher costs and don’t sell nearly as many pedals as the corporate companies. Handmade pedals, with high quality parts and lots of labour will cost more. You can choose to buy… or not buy. A lot has happened in the world of budget gear as well and you don’t have to break the bank anymore to get great sounding gear.

    • Hi, Chicco here of Gurus amps.. Thank you all guys for kind words, just notice the LTD (as its name suggests) is a Limited edition of 500 units to celebrate our Cicognani’s (Guglielmo is my partner & engineer) 20th anniversary.. The standard version of Echosex 2 has a street price under the 400$.
      Is not cheap, sure, Bjiorn has already well explained is not a simple pedal, it is a Tube preamp with really a huge work to replicate the old uncle Binson.. And it’s not finished btw.. We’re working on a new one with many more features to be released before Christmas.
      Stay tuned on our channels for all the news..

  36. Clint says:

    I’ve had the Catalinbread and both versions of the Echosex. The Echosex is by far the better delay. Great review but I was under the understanding that it was a buffered bypass with the option of trails or no trails.

  37. Rob says:

    Hi Bjorn! Excellent review as always! Now the question – which delay do you bring to your deserted island – the Caitlinbread Echorec, the EH DMM or the Echosex?

    • Bjorn says:

      Echosex :)

      • Martin says:

        Have you tried the Dawner Prince echorech it is hailed as a dead on reproducion with all the fearures of the original, I’d love your opinion on it

        • Bjorn says:

          I hope to have a review up very soon.

          • Troy says:

            I’ve been reading up on the Binson Echorec-emulating Dawner Prince Boonar:

            I have the Catalinbread Echorec & have been on the fence on the Gurus Echosex 2 mainly due to its lack of individual & combination selections of the four “heads”.

            The Boonar doesn’t have any valves but then again the Binson Echorec 2 model T7E had seven & the Gurus unit I believe has just the one, so this is less of an deal-breaker issue either way. The long-awaited Effectrode Echo-Delay would however likely have three valves (& maybe a fourth internal one for the “magic eye”) so this would have some definite sonic appeal.

            Some review comparison of the Dawner Prince, Gurus & Catalinbread would be interesting on the cake. I seem to recall that C-bread hadn’t sent a review unit to Gilmourish HQ? Hopefully Dawner Prince will oblige!

  38. Michael... says:

    Oh I want one of these so bad! Thanks for the review Bjorn. I live your playing BTW!

  39. Excellent article and video Bjorn!!

    Better than the Catalinbread Echorec?Seems that some of the effects D.Gilmour used so effectively in the late ’60’s-early ’70’s, redesigned with tubes,like this pedal and one,(or more),of the new Univibes are better than the originals.

    Did David use delay,(the Binson Echorec and later a digital delay),and rotating speaker,(Leslie,later Yamaha),at the same time?

    • Bjorn says:

      Yes, he would use whatever dirt and modulation effects before the echo/delays and everything was fed into both the Hiwatts and Yamahas.
      The Catalinbread has the multi head feature, which is very cool. Overall tone wise though I think the Echosex is much better and more authentic sounding.

  40. Ryan says:

    Hey Bjorn
    Awesome pedal!! How would you compare this to the Strymon El Capistan? Thank you for the music!!

    • Bjorn says:

      Two different types of vintage echo pedals I think. The El Capistan is closer to the true tape sound, while the Echosex has more of that percussive attack and more of a reverb-ish character. Still, they both cover much of the same ground.

    • Nicko says:

      Hi Bjorn. Fantastic rendition of Mind that Axe…
      What were your settings for this on the Echosex 2?

      • Bjorn says:

        Thanks! I forgot to shoot the settings for that clip but I think all of the controls were set to noon, with the Swell around 2:00 and the Echo/time at 2:30 for aprox 300ms.

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