David Gilmour in a Box

Wouldn’t you love to walk into a guitar store and yell out “One Gilmour box, please!”. Of course there is no such thing. Not that anyone hasn’t tried but there’s more to his tone than just one box. Still, I get the question all the time. “What’s the ultimate pedal for Gilmour’s tone?” In this feature I’m going to go against all my principles and recommend what I think is “Gilmour in a (few) box(es)”.

The reason this is against my principles is that buying a new pedal should be based on taste, need and how well that particular pedal matches with your guitar, pickups, amp and other pedals that you might want to combine it with.

In case of trying to figure out which pedal is the most Gilmourish of them all, you obviously have to take into consideration David Gilmours mind, hands, gear, the venues he’s playing in, how they recorded the guitar etc.

But that’s boring right? Let’s forget about that for now! Let’s assume that your guitar, pickups and amp can handle anything and your skills are only surpassed by the master him self.

My list below is based on pedals that are available today and within a reasonable budget (hence no vintage or Cornish). You can either walk into a guitar store or order them online. They may not be the cheapest ones but that’s a topic for later. I’m not paid or endorsed by anyone. This is my opinion based on what I think is the closest match to each tone and era. Please see the Buyer’s Gear Guides for tips on alternative pedals for bedroom, recording and stage use.

Effectrode PC-2A

David’s more recent tones are recognised by heavy use of compression. Not only for sustain but also for creating presence and a more pronounced attack.

Effectrode PC-2A

The Effectrode PC-2A, as featured in David’s Rattle That Lock stage rig, is an optical compressor, with a transparent and smooth compression. Compared to a more conventional transistor compressor, the PC-2A is a more dynamic sounding unit, responding to your picking and overall tone.

You can easily go with almost any compressor, but there’s something about that optical tone that makes everything sound like a million bucks, with all the sustain you would ever need.

AnalogMan SunFace NKT-275

Guitarists didn’t have much to choose from in the late 60s but most of them, including Jimi Hendrix, owned and used the red Dallas Arbiter Fuzz Face. David Gilmour used one too on all Pink Floyd albums and tours between 1968-1971 (possibly later).

Buyer's Gear Guide - AnalogMan SunFace NKT 275

There are many great sounding germanium fuzz pedals on the market, like my favourites, the Jam Pedals Fuzz Phase and MJM (red) London Fuzz. Still, these, among others, are intentionally voiced slightly different than the original.

The SunFace captures the raw and uncompressed tone of the original NKT-275 Fuzz Face. It has all the characteristics and harmonics, without ever getting muddy or dark. It also cleans up extremely well, which is essential for songs like Let There Be Light, Atom Heart Mother and Echoes.

AnalogMan SunFace BC109

David Gilmour switched from germanium to silicon transistor fuzz in 1971. Not only did this make his tones sound more aggressive but it also played a role in moving Pink Floyd from being a psychedelic act to more of a classic rock band.

Buyer's Gear Guide - AnalogMan SunFace BC109

The SunFace BC109 has tons of saturated gain that, with the right settings, almost starts to oscillate and make all kinds of sweet harmonics. The brightness of the pedal can easily be darkened by increasing the volume and fuzz, almost taking the pedal into Muff territory. It’s wild yet easy to tame, which is what you need to be able to nail those mellow leads on Mudmen and play both rhythms and lead on Money with just one pedal (like David did).

Electronic Orange Pig Hoof (red)

David Gilmour was introduced to the Big Muff in the mid 70s. Again, his tones got more aggressive and perhaps even partly responsible for the sometimes cold and heavy sound on Animals and The Wall in particular.

Buyer's Gear Guide - Electronic Orange Pig Hoof

David’s Big Muff tone is tricky to nail because it’s almost always paired with a rotary speaker and, often when playing live, a booster. What I’m looking for, to nail his 1976-83 and present Big Muff tones, is that smooth and mellow tone, with a hint of fuzz harmonics and a pronounced attack. It also needs to be wild and aggressive, with fat lows and sparkly top.

I could have chosen the Vick Audio ’73 Ram’s Head, which is one of my favourites, but the red Pig Hoof from Electronic Orange wins my vote by a hair for having that extra bite and edge characteristic of the violet ram’s head.

Buffalo FX Patriot

For the ’94 Division Bell tour, David employed a Sovtek (Civil War) Big Muff Pi. Compared to the Ram’s Head, this one’s got more gain, low end and most importantly, more mid range.

Buyer's Gear Guide - Buffalo FX Patriot

There are many great sounding Sovtek Civil War clones on the market, like the Wren and Cuff Box of War and Stomp Under Foot Civil War. In my opinion the Patriot is the closest match to the tones I’m hearing on PULSE. It’s got a nice amount of mids without sounding boxy. It’s fairly dark but the top end cuts through, making the pedal sound well balanced. What makes it different to the others is the slightly more saturated tone and a throaty, almost vocal character.

Colorsound (Macari’s) Powerboost 18V

The Powerboost was David’s main overdrive and booster unit between 1972-77 (replaced by the Cornish ST2 for the 1979-83 era). He is also seen using the Overdriver throughout the 1990’s and the Powerboost is also seen in his current home studio setup.

Buyer's Gear Guide - Colorsound Powerboost

I’d have no problem swapping this one for either a Vick Audio Overdriver or the Buffalo FX Powerbooster. However, neither quite manages to produce the mojo and character of the original.

The Colorsound got a super transparent tone and responds incredibly well to your picking and (tube) amp. Its super crisp, yet smooth overdrive and punchy, almost twangy cleans are essential for nailing David’s tones on the WYWH album and his Animals live tones. Have a Cigar, Pigs, Sheep. This is the one.

BK Butler Tube Driver

The Tube Driver has been David Gilmour’s main overdrive and booster unit since the early 90s. In many ways in changed his tones from being bright and aggressive to smoother and warmer. The pedal dominates both Division Bell and On an Island.

Buyer's Gear Guide - BK Butler Tube Driver

The Tube Driver doesn’t really sound like any other overdrive pedal that I’ve played. Any pedal at all, really. Obviously, it does a nice job replicating David’s tones but the pedal is so much more. With a distinct amp-like character, much like the early Plexi and JTM Marshalls, the Tube Driver is incredibly versatile, covering just about anything from transparent cleans, to tube overdrive and fuzz. It behaves very much like a tube amp too, getting more compressed the more you crank it.

One of its biggest strengths as I see it is that despite having a fairly mids scooped character, the tone cuts through with a lot of presence. It has a nice full body and in some way or another, it fits any guitar and amp.

Electronic Orange Moon-Vibe MKII

Perhaps inspired by Jimi Hendrix, David introduced the Uni-Vibe in his rig in early 1972. It was heavily used on the Eclipse suite and later Dark Side of the Moon. Electronic Orange’s Moon-Vibe MKII is, in my opinion, the best replication of the classic Uni-Vibe and David’s early 70s tones.

Electronic Orange Moon-Vibe MkII

The Moon-Vibe blends incredibly well with most pedals and an additional control for symmetry, allow you to fine tune the sweep or throb depending on how the intensity and speed are set. It’s one of the few Uni-Vibes out there that manages to produce tremolo-like swirls even at the highest speeds, which is much needed for Any Colour You Like.

MXR Custom Shop ’74 Vintage Phase 90 reissue

The classic Phase 90 was David’s main modulation unit during the 1974-75 leg of the Dark Side of the Moon tour and of course widely featured on the WYWH album.

Buyer's Gear Guide - MXR Phase 90

The ’74 reissue from MXR’s Custom Shop is a straight clone of the original delivering dark and smokey phasing, without getting distorted or muddy. Whether you place it first or after, it works equally well with cleans, overdrives and fuzz. Like the original, the pedal feature hardwire bypass, which will add both noise and tone loss but that’s the nature of the pedal and I have yet to discover a phaser that sounds like this one.

Mooer ElecLady

The Electric Mistress flanger (David used a late 1976 V2 model) is essential for David’s late 70s and early 80s tones. The pedal was heavily featured on the 1977 Animals tour, his 1978 solo album, 1979-81 The Wall album and tour and last on 1983’s The Final Cut.

Buyer's Gear Guide - Mooer ElecLady

The original Electric Mistress is no longer in production (this list only featured available pedals, remember?) and the current Deluxe from EHX sound too dark and boomy (don’t even consider the Stereo or Neo Mistress). The Hartman Flanger is very close to the original but it doesn’t blend that well with high gain pedals like a Big Muff.

Now, I’m sure you think I’m crazy but the Mooer ElecLady is in my (very humble)0 opinion the best model available today. It sounds like a blend between the ’76, with a liquidy swirl and the late 90’s Deluxe and its slightly more jet-like character. Be careful with the settings though. You need to find the sweetspot for it to really nail those tones.

CostaLab Chorus Lab

The Boss CE-2 chorus played a huge part in David Gilmour’s tones between 1981-2005. Either used as a stand alone effect or to create a wide stereo spread assigned to specific channels.

Buyer's Gear Guide - CostaLab Chorus Lab

The Chorus Lab is a close match to the CE-2, with a warm and natural sounding tone that doesn’t sound too dominating nor boxy. Its effect mix control also allow you to simulate David’s milder chorus tones, achieved by assigning a CE-2 to just one of the amps.

Boss RT-20 Rotary Ensemble

The rotating speaker cabinet has been an essential part of David’s studio and live tones since the early 70s. From employing Leslie cabs in the early days, to the Yamaha RA200 and the custom made Doppola speakers, the rotary effect is perhaps hard to hear but you’d notice some of the magic missing if they weren’t there.

Buyer's Gear Guide - Boss RT-20 Chorus Ensemble

The Boss RT20 is a pretty mediocre rotary sim. It sounds more like a very deep chorus. Pedals like the Strymon Lex and Neo Ventilator has a much more authentic tone.

However, David always used his rotary cabs in combination with clean speakers, which created a very subtle chorus effect so you don’t really want something that sounds too authentic. The RT20, with its effect mix control, does a very convincing simulation of the Yamaha speakers in particular and that liquidy texture that’s always present in David’s tones.

Dawner Prince Boonar

The Binson Echorec’s unique tone played an important role in shaping not only David Gilmour’s guitar tones but also the Pink Floyd sound between 1967-1977. Dawner Prince has managed to recreate much of the magic and mojo of the old Binson with their Boonar.

Dawner Prince Boonar

It will take you some time to figure it all out but the exhaustive amount of features makes it possible to simulate all the classic tones, with impressive detail and authenticity. Set it up for a fast slap-back in swell mode for the intro on Time or a single tap delay, with 300ms and a hint of that organic sounding modulation, for those ethereal sounds heard on Live at Pompeii and Dark Side of the Moon.

You might want to check out the Guru’s Amps Echosex and Catalinbread Echorec as well. Both offer great sounding Binson tones. However, neither comes close to the amount of features and authentic sounds of the Binson.

TC Electronic Nova Delay

The classic 2290 Digital Delay was David’s main delay unit in the 80s and 90s, delivering both vintage echo sounds and more complex, modern textures.

Buyer's Gear Guide - TC Electronic Nova Delay

The Nova feature all the classic tones of the 2290, including the studio quality 2290 digital delay sound, impressive tape and echo simulations and just about anything else. Banking up your own patches allows you to cover all of David’s tones from all eras with a high level of authenticity.

So, there you have it. No huge surprises perhaps but these are all pedals that I would stick on my own David Gilmour board if I were to replicate his tones. As mentioned above, the pedals listed are without any consideration as to what guitar and amp you’ll be using.

I’m sure you have other favourites though and perhaps you even disagree with my choices. Please use the comments field below and let me hear it!

209 Responsesso far.

  1. David says:

    There is an internal trimpot on the Catalinbread Echorec to turn the modulation down (or up) and I turned it down and found (along with other effects like recently acquired Vick Overdriver on your advice) my Shine On tone as well as other Gilmour tones. On the Echorec you can use the tone knob to reduce modulation but it also darkens the repeats and something is lost in the the tone. Better to adjust the internal trimmer. My 2 cents, having spent waaaay too much time with it. (Dont confuse it with another internal trimpot for gain which I suggest leaving stock). The 2290 (or even Analog) settings on the TC Electronics Flashback or Alter Ego are no slouch either, but their Echorec settings are too overmodulated.

    • Bjorn says:

      Yes, you need to use the internal trimpots. I’ve turned the modulation on mine down to a minimum. Just a hint but barely noticeable. The TC units have a bit too much modulation for my taste too but the Tone Print feature is really cool and you can pretty much do anything you wish with the tones.

      • Jason says:

        Bjorn, does this mean that Catalinbread stopped being jerks and sent you one, or did you just finally buy one? How do you like it?

        • Bjorn says:

          He he, no they didn’t send me one. I bought one a few months back and I’ve enjoyed it a lot. The fact that I included it in this feature says it all :)

      • Frank says:

        The Tone print editor is great! It moved my X4 from a useful delay pedal to my all time favorite…

  2. David says:

    Also, he’s totally right about the Mooer ElecLady. Great pedal but knobs a little too loose so have to be careful dialing it in, but the tone it great for nearly anything, including Hendrix. I ordered it with an Acoustikar, which also is way better than the Boss and they sent me a Yellow Comp (Diamond copy) by accident and told me to keep it. I didnt use it much but due to pedalboard real estate issues, recently brought it out and really used it and guess what? it’s great. I since bought used on ebay for $43 the Blues Mood Mooer, which is a copy of a Keeley modded Blues Driver and it is really a fantastic OD pedal. Can be used in place of an Overdriver or (I think) Powerboost, or Tube Driver, but the size is an added plus. It also has longer sustain, which isnt really like original to the Colorsound/Vick Overdriver, which Im trying to adapt to, even if authentic. May I also suggest the VFE Enterprise which has 3 great phasers on it and a vibe setting. Can do Gilmour spot on and I even use it for Trower songs.

    • Bjorn says:

      Thanks for the tip on the VFE. I’ll check it out. Yeah, the Mooers are great. I have yet to find one that I didn’t like. Apart from the ElecLady, I use the Enesemble King a lot, which is a great Boss CE2 clone. The Blues Mood or Blues Driver can definitely be used to replicate both the Powerbooster/Overdriver and Tube Driver. It has a hair more mid range than the old Colorsound, which makes it easier to set up.

      • Jason says:

        I absolulely agree with David about the VFE Enterprise (or later renamed the Tractor Beam for copyright issues). The P (Phase) mode is awesome for anything from Van Halen, to The Beatles (think Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds) to Incubus, but that V (Vibe) mode is SO classic Gilmour that, to me at least, it does a Uni-Vibe very well (though possibly not as well as the Vibe Machine). For the money, I can’t think of a better all around Phaser with tons of options.

  3. ALBERTO says:

    Great article, congratulations.

    I would love a Gilmour multieffects signature.

  4. T-mo says:

    Agreeing 100% with you on the Tube Driver. For me it even works very well with my 5w Lionheart at bedroom level (as well as 100w hiwatt clone). TD has a full, smooth and sweet tone unlike any other pedal I’ve tried.

    Another one from the list working for me 100% is Echorec. That’s work of genious. Irreplaceable.

    RAT is one of those pedals that would easily fit this list. My experience is the You Dirty Rat which is amazing. But no Rat can replace Muff as it’s quite a different tone. Both are sweetly aggressive though.

    What I’m still in search of is a perfect modulation for sweetness and subtle modulation. Anyone who has found it, please give your suggestions! You too Bjorn, if you have something to add here. :)

    Thanks for the great article once again!

  5. Johnny West says:

    Best list I’ve ever found on David Gilmour’s pedals! Thanks!

  6. Bern Merchant says:

    Just when I thought my gear was going to be pretty much stable for a while (Evolution on the way though), you go ahead and post a new gear guide … :)

  7. John says:

    Have you tried the new Korg Sdd 3000 pedal? Can’t say that it exactly brought Gilmour to mind for me, but the tape delay sounds pretty good and the standard delay is great. Lots of options and some killer modulation. Really simple to use, too.

  8. Brad Roller says:

    This is an AWESOME guide man! I love it! I just want you to know how thankful I am for you still running this site! I know you are super busy, yet you still take time to deal with us nut jobs! Lol I can’t have a conversation about my tone without giving you credit! I’ve been coming here since I was 14 years old, I’m 22 now, and I still visit everyday! I wouldn’t be where I am today without your help! So with that said, thanks again for all the time you put towards us! God bless! Ps. How do you feel the whirlwind phaser adds up to the mxr script phaser? Thanks!

    • Bjorn says:

      Wow, thanks a lot Brad! Really appreciate it :) I think all three Whirlwind pedals are great. The Yellow Box is perhaps not a typical Gilmour pedal but I’m a huge fan of Randy Rhoads and those early 80s hard rock tones :) The Orange Box is an awesome phaser and a better choice, IOM, than the stock MXRs. Probably the ’74 reissue too, with all its flaws but there’s something magical about that pedal that no other seems to replicate.

      • Brad Roller says:

        I see! Thanks for your reply! I guess I’ll stick with my orange box due to it having an led and true bypass! Although I’m curious to try the reissue. I’ll get back to you if I compare them side by side! Cheers!

  9. David says:

    Nice reference, but I think that you should include alternatives for people who do not play professionally. The Colorsound and Tube Driver really need volume to “shine” and putting those pedals in a low volume environment would not provide the same effect. Such as:

    Alternative for Lower Volumes: Pedal X

    I know people could cross reference your Gear Buyers Guide, but some may read directly from this and not understand the implications or recommendations. Not everyone can “lean back into the volume.” Just my thoughts for other readers.

    Again, nice article! Keep ‘em coming! :)

    • Bjorn says:

      I see your point but I specifically stated in the article that the pedals are chosen regardless of what amp and guitar you’re using which also means in what environment you’re playing in. This is a nonsense list really but a lot of people have been asking for it. The other gear guides are listing all the alternatives :)

  10. david mednick says:

    i think the best way to get use of your site is to really read all the review, especially of individual pedals and check your rating for bedroom levels/setups. I think, however, there’s always different ears and tastes and one needs to experiment themselves. that can be costly, I know, because most of these pedals are not available in the local store or Guitar Center to try out, and even so, they wont sound the same once you get it home and incorprated into your rig. Im still dying to compare my SUF Civil War and Basic Audio Tri/Ram (you need to review that one, please, John makes some amazing pedals!!!) with Buffalo FX (well, a few of them) and Wren and Cuff’s pedals as well as a few others. Still thinking about buying a Musket just because everyone seems to love it (but have resisted so far as the NEED isnt really there). Overkill for sure, but sometimes you just love a pedal more than another. I’m using the SUF Civil War for Early Genesis Steve Hackett stuff and yet he currently is using stuff that you’d never think makes sense on his current tour. When I told him I use a Civil War, he said, “I wish we have more time to talk because I find it hard to believe that really captures my tone.” But for me, and friends who listened, they said I dialed it in exactly and found that tone. So, combos with amps, pedal line, buffers, cords, guitar/pickups, and playing style can result in so much difference. But me being obsessed with tone it never ends like a OCD (the disease not the pedal) and I want to try a Musket, Wren and Cuff Tall Font, Buffalo Fx Evolution (and Germanium one for early Led Zep), Vick’s Black Russian. But Id be broke and divorced. My pedal boards already look ridiculous, even I admit that. I have a Boss GT-10 that I havent sold simply because it has one patch I made for one song Yes’ Relayer album I cannot get with any other combo of pedals. Reeves Gabrels yelled at me basically after peppering him with questions about his guitar I have, he said I should stop obsessing with equipment and JUST PLAY and focus on my technique. I was embarrassed and realized how right he was. But I still get bogged down in it. I keep trying to remember his words though, as I think we all should. So now I can get the tone of many, many songs I cant play or havent learned yet and never seem I will have the time to do so. Balance in life.

  11. Michel Giroux says:

    Excellent and most informative guide and article Bjorn.Kudos.

    Question:in the ’80’s,David used the Boss CS-2 compressor.Is there much of a difference with the CS-3 other than the added tone capability and knob,(I’m referring here to the vintage Made in Japan originals)?

    • Bjorn says:

      Thank you, Michel! The CS3 has a brighter tone and a deeper compression. I don’t think it sound as good as the CS2.

  12. Andy Thomas says:

    Hey Bjørn. Spot on again as usual!!! BK made me one of these I think it was 2009 and in the same eek he made a couple more for David. BK is a total gentleman and so helpful!! I have used his ultimate pedal from the smallest pub gig right up to the Hard Rock in London and the Royal Albert Hall!! Most recently at a charity gig at Elstree studios. My main amp is a Marshall 1974 X and I split the guitar sound into both the channels with one clean as poss driven by the TD and the other Chanel driven for the beautiful Marshall sound. When I use both channels it’s an unbelievable sound. I use a G2 and a Red Rooster boost in this set up and it is awesome with my 61 reissue, 80’s stray plus with 5 strings (Keef) and my David relic strat!! But u r right. This pedal can emulate any of David’s sounds and any rock sound you care to think of. It is a truly awesome pedal from the genius BK Butler!!!

  13. Andy Thomas says:

    And actually I don’t subscribe to Davids comment above about the TD needing volume to shine! Man this pedal shines at any volume!!!

  14. Andy Thomas says:

    Oh and also in this set up I use a Demeter Compulator, T-Rex Replica, Boss DD3, Boss CE-2 and a TU3. And sometimes a RAT II.

  15. Paul says:

    Bjorn,

    How come you seem to strongly prefer and recommend the Pig Hoof Red to the Pig Hoof Yellow (which you helped create)?

    Thanks,
    Paul

    • Bjorn says:

      The Yellow one is a heavily modified version of the red. I asked Electronic Orange to make me a version that had less gain and low end, which would make it easier to record as I wanted to use the pedal on an upcoming session. The Yellow is basically made for me but EO wanted to offer it to everyone. The red is much closer to what you’d want for your Gilmour tones.

      • Paul says:

        Whoops.. already ordered the yellow.

        • Bjorn says:

          Well, I’m sure you’ll like it but if you’re uncertain then I’m sure Jan wouldn’t mind changing the order. The yellow is designed for recording but it also works great on smaller amps and bedroom setups as it’s much easier to control than the red or most other Muffs. My fav settings are volume 2:00, tone 11:00 and gain full on.

  16. John Vorndran says:

    Checkout the Dispatch Master by Earthquaker Devices. It reverb and delay in on box (you can use both at the same time) and it sounds like Shine On You Crazy Diamond!

  17. julien says:

    Hi bjorn,

    I have both The BOSS RT 20 and the BOSS CE2 (wich i can use with a Napalm pedal Mixer which adjusts the wet level of the Ce-2) …

    What would be your recommandations about using one of the pedals instead of the other?
    To be gilmourish technically correct, for which gilmour areas shoul i use the Rt 20, then the Ce -2?

    Were they used separately, or sometimes into the same rig? (I mean Ce-2 on the left channel if i’m right and rt-20 to replace the yamaha on the other channel..)

    As far as I’m concerned i’m just using one head at the time with 4×12 cab…. laney cub and lionheart l20 h…..
    I can push them hard no problem because no neighbours.

    Thanks for your advices.

    Julien
    France

    • Bjorn says:

      The CE2 became available around 1980-81. David started to use them during the second leg of the Wall tour in 1981 and up until 2005. The RT20 would be especially fitting for the Yamaha period between 1976-83 but you can also use it for PULSE. You can combine them.

  18. Hey Bjorn, nice article, thanks a lot!

    Like you, I have trouble finding the best settings for the ElecLady. Can I ask what at what settings you keep yours?

    -Charles

  19. Mike says:

    I was surprised you didn’t mention the Electronic Orange Moon Vibe MKII. I understand the Dry Bell overal features + sound, guess just figured you’d have this as secondary choice with the other…

    • Bjorn says:

      Could have mentioned many models, including the Moon Vibe but the Machine Vibe wins by a hair :)

      • mike says:

        It’s all good :) I actually think your list is very well done!
        Besides I’m a huge Vibe nut. I’d say after many many different ones, my current 3 favorites I settled on (which I own currently) are the FoxRox- AquaVibe, Castledine- SupraVibe, & JunDog- God Vibe.
        Even the original Shin Ei varied unit to unit, so I find I need more than 1 & also like to run pre and post gain. It happens to be one of my favorites effects so I can be picky. Truthfully there’s enough options in vibes out there, but I do thinks there’s a lot that don’t cut it.

        Thanks for the response, & again great job on the list

        • Bjorn says:

          I’ve only tried the FoxRox of the ones you mention. Need to try the others :) Yeah, there are a lot of opinions about vibes and it seems that the makers use this debate for what it’s worth and hype their products as much as they can. Some of the models doesn’t sound like a vibe at all. I would say that most of what’s available today do sound very good though and while some are pretty true to the original others offer something new and exciting :)

  20. Pete W. says:

    DIG IT! Thanks for the hard work, Bjorn.

  21. Kris says:

    Bjorn,

    Where can I pick up a Costalab chorus pedal? I live in the states, as it seems all the retailers are in Europe. I’ve tried contacting Costalabs on their contact page and a retailer of theirs in Italy – spaghettiguitartools, and nobody responds. No of any reliable sources that can sell this pedal and communicate to someone in the states? Thanks!

    Kris

  22. Kris says:

    Hi Bjorne,

    Sorry for all my questions :) I posted this under overdrives and distortions a few days ago, not sure you got it.

    I just heard the clips on YouTube from your recent show. Sounds incredible, you are very talented!

    Question for you regarding a power booster. With my current muffs and over drive – Patriot, Vick audio 73 ram, and Dover drive what boost would be better?

    Buffalo powerboost or the top tone shine boost? I’m mainly looking to use it as a clean boost for my muffs and overdrive.

    Also placement wise both would go right after my muffs and Dover drive?

    Thanks!

    • Bjorn says:

      The ShineBoost is a clean booster, with a switch for adding a bit of mids so I guess this one would be the best choice. Works great for your pedals :) I’d place it after all the other gains.

      • Kris says:

        Bjorn, the shine boost is an amazing pedal! Thank you so much for the recommendation. Really enhances the 73 ram head, so much clarity and tone! Think its one of the always on pedals at least for my board now.

        After messing around with my Patriot, 73 ram head and dover drive for some time now. I am really loving the patriot and ram head combo can cover so much ground between the two. Not to sure about the dover drive as my dedicated overdrive. Looking for something that can cover ground that my patriot and ram head can’t. Something that can cut through the mix, works well with my boost, and has lots of range. Looking to use it for songs like coming back to life, marooned, etc. I was looking at maybe trading it for a plexi drive/plexi drive deluxe. Wanted to get your thoughts, recommendations as far as the plexi or other overdrives:) As always thanks in advance man!

        • Bjorn says:

          Overdrives always depends on your amp and guitar. The wrong pedal on the wrong amp can be a disappointment. The Dover is a great pedal, I think, but it is a bit limiting in the sense that it has a lot of mids and gain and doesn’t do those bright, transparent vintage tones very well. The Plexi Drive is incredibly versatile and definitely one of my favourite overdrive pedals. It can do clean boost, Tube Driver overdrive and classic 70s Marshall distortion. It should compliment your Patriot and Ram’s Head nicely :)

          • Kris says:

            As always Bjorn thank you so much for the advice. I sold my dover and picked up the new plexi deluxe and couldnt be happier. Personally I have not played the Buffalo evolution, but from a versatility standpoint I’d say this plexi deluxe is very similar. Very happy with it, as it compliments my other pedals nicely! Being that your a fan of the plexi, you may want to check the deluxe version out.

            • Bjorn says:

              I will check it out for sure! Based on the clips I’ve heard, the Deluxe will cover the Evoution to some extent.

              • Kris says:

                Bjorn,

                Not sure if you saw this comparison that Shobel did a few weeks back.

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTINvcLJX7rGQ/YT

                What do you think is the best dedicated overdrive to compliment the 73 ram head and patriot? Wish I could try out the evolution to see if I like it better then the plexi. I guess I could fit them both on my board not sure if it would be overkill though.

                Appreciate your advice man!

                • Bjorn says:

                  Given that the ’73 has a mids switch you don’t really need to boost it. However, if you do want to then I’d go for something transparent like the Vick Overdriver/Buffalo Powerbooster or similar.

  23. John says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    I thought I’d post this here as you’d probably appreciate it. I’m a DIY pedal builder (non-commercial) and attempted the ‘Gilmour in a box’ pedal. I was a little limited on space and I used some different things to get a similar effect, but it looks something like this:

    http://juansolo.co.uk/stompage/images/gilmourizer2-o.jpg

    It’s got six effects in there.

    – First in the chain is a straight Love Squeeze compressor clone. It’s one of the most transparent out there.

    – Next up is a Big Muff. We used a bit of logic to try and determine what his number 1 muff is and built a modded clone. The mod is a mids control that goes from stock over to a P19 hump. Which can be useful.

    – On the output of the Muff (non-selectable) is a ISP Decimator noise gate. This is because if we kill the noise here it doesn’t get amplified or repeated later on. Works incredibly well.

    – Then we have a FatPants boost. Really good boost with some tone shaping abilities too, which are useful at this point.

    – Then we hit the CE-2 clone.

    – Finally a delay. It’s a twin PT delay that we’ve modified with analogue sounding filters.

    I love it, it can get that really super-sustaining Gilmour thing going very easily and is near silent to boot. A bit of a swine to build (understatement of the century!), but very satisfying.

    • Bjorn says:

      Wow, that’s just great! Would love to try it out some time :)

    • David says:

      You’re gonna have a lot of people want this pedal. Wanna build me one?

      • John says:

        Hi David, I only ever sell odd pedals to fund the pedal building hobby/addiction/problem and have been burned a couple of times on multis that are a big cost not only financially, but in the time and effort it takes to build them. To the point that I don’t offer to build those any more.

        That said, I could probably sell the one I have as long as I can secure the parts to build myself another… Possibly… Maybe… ;)

        • David mednick says:

          How do we contact each other since this is posted publicly? I would love to have a unique pedal like this for my collection I’m sure it will cost me but I understsnd. Can Bjorn privately send my email privately? Bjorn – please forward to him ? Can u do that?

  24. Matthias says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    Did you try or do you plan to try the Hammond Leslie G Pedal? I’m curious how it compares to the Boss RT-20. This Leslie sim pedal also allows dry/wet control so you can blend clean signal to the effect. It could be an interesting pedal to replicate Gilmour’s tones.
    Take care,
    Matthias

    • Bjorn says:

      Like the Ventilator and Lex, the Leslie pedal produce a much more accurate simulation of a real leslie, compared to the RT20. All of these, with adjusted effect volume, would be appropriate for the 1971-75 era, when David used Leslie cabs. However, they don’t work that well for the 1977-83 era because the Yamaha cabs didn’t really sound like a leslie but more like a flanger or chorus and the RT20 is much better at that.

  25. Ruud says:

    Great list Bjorn! Many thanks for that. You spend such a lot of time to help us with DG tones. Really appreciate that.
    I am receiving the Digitech RP360XP in a few days and hope to get a few sounds like David Gilmour. Pretty sure your list and all the other stuff you give us, will help me.

  26. sebastien says:

    Hi bjorn,

    What do you think about the whirlwind rochester pedals (comp & phaser & disto plus )VS the byoc models:
    byoc script phaser 90 ( 2 knobs version), byoc distortion plus, byoc dynacomp clone with the vintage upgrade pack (same componenrs as vintage mxr)?

    I have the byoc and thought they were straight clones if the originals (including vintage transistors etc…)

    Best regards,
    Sébastien

    • Bjorn says:

      I haven’t done an A/B test so I can’t really compare them but I think both sound great. The BOYCs has a few extra features, which you may or may not need. I’m a huge fan of simplicity and the Whirlwinds are really great but I’m sure you could go either way…

  27. KEITH says:

    Fantastic line up Bjorn, I think I could live with jusr the above pedals for a Gilmour board, and woth Cymbaline, and the Reeves, I’d be able to nail pretty much everything I want as far as David’s tones go. Loving this guide more with every category I read!!!

    Keep it up Mr. Riis, Your faithful Padawan, Keith :)

  28. uwe says:

    Hi bjorn,

    Hi have a Boss ce2 that I can use with a mixer pedal to mix it low. Also have a boss rt-20.

    I never really understood when to use one or the other with my laney cub head.

    What is the appropriate gilmour area for ce 2 use. Same question for boss rt20 to replicate the tamaha or doppolas.

    Any area where i should combine them??
    Or would it be too much midulation ?

    Thanks for your help….

    uwe

    • Bjorn says:

      The CE2 became available around 1980-81. David started to use them during the second leg of the Wall tour in 1981 and up until 2005. The RT20 would be especially fitting for the Yamaha period between 1976-83 but you can also use it for PULSE. You can combine them.

  29. Wyatt Murphy says:

    Hi Bjorn:
    I was curious how you would compare the Catalinbread Echorec to the Boss RE-20 Space Echo. In your earlier gear guide, you said you thought that the RE-20 would be a good substitute. I have the RE-20, and wondered if there would be a big enough difference to upgrade (apart from the Catalinbread being more pedalboard friendly).

    I can definitely agree on the Vick Audio ’73 Ram’s Head and Overdriver. Based on your demos, I bought both when they came out, and they are two of the most satisfying gear purchases I’ve ever made. The sustain on the Ram’s Head is wonderful. The Overdriver is a particularly great in that there are so many sounds. It is a good clean boost, overdrive to almost fuzz, while having a unique voice. As an overdrive, it is a whole different flavor from so many Tube Screamer clones. I like Tube Screamer-type pedals too, but the Overdriver is a different flavor.

    Thanks for all the work you put into this site.

    Take care
    Wyatt

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Wyatt! The RE20 and Echorec are similar in the sense that they both have that warm authentic sounding tape tone. You can definitely substitute one with the other but the biggest difference is that the Echorec, like the Binson, has a more liquidy reverb-like character, while the RE20, like the Space Echo, has a more defined quality and not as psychedelic sounding…

  30. Sebastien says:

    Thanks Bjorn!

    I have 2 other questions about the CE-2:

    – Was the Ce-2 always ON in the effects chain for the FINAL CUT album? Any signal splitting ?
    In the Final Cut Effects section you only mention a yamaha Rotating speaker / In the settings section you put a Ce-2, but you make ne reference to CE-2 or Yamahas, in the songs settings…

    – If I was to combine the BOSS CE-2 and RT-20 (doppolas or Yamaha simulation), in my mono effects chain, trying to replicate david’s Splitted signal (left channel Hiwatt head with Ce-2 + right Channel Yamahas), would this be fine:

    Guitar > dedicated Buffer > TC Electronic tuner > Compressor CS-2 > tube Driver > Boss CE-2 mixed low with a Mixer pedal> Vol pedal > Tc Flashback delay > Boss RT-20 > AMP

    And what would be the area you would recommend Ce-2 + Rt-20 at the samle time?

    Regards,
    Sebastien

    • Bjorn says:

      1. I doubt the CE2 was used on Final Cut. I can’t hear it and from the few sources we have, David only used the Pete Cornish board, which didn’t include a CE2. The setup featured a split between the Hiwatts and Yamaha and this was used for all the guitar parts. The Yamaha is mixed more predominantly on some tracks than others. The Electric Mistress was used here and there, mostly for some clean stuff.
      2. The Yamaha or rotating speakers weren’t split for a side but rather mixed behind the Hiwatts, or on top if you like. It seems that he used two CE2s during the 1981 leg of the Wall tour. Probably to enhance the stereo spread in each side. Your chain looks fine for a mono setup.
      If you want authenticity, I’d use the RT20 alone for Animals/DG78/Wall/Cut and the CE2+RT20 for PULSE.

  31. Rob says:

    Now that you have the Caitalinbread Echorec, will you be doing a full review and demo video? I have been looking forward to your thoughts since this was released back in late 2012.

    Thanks!

    Rob

  32. Bo says:

    Perhaps you can tell me (all of us) where about the 310ms setting is on the Echorec? i never really had the ear to set this up. In the past you’ve helped me with the Trex Replica “it’s a hair above the 6th mark”. Any help is greatly appreciated. Have a great day Bjorn and as always…Be Excellent To Each Other!

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Bo! 310ms is about 11:30, or right under the E in “delay”. 440ms, which is David’s main Animals/DG78/Wall/Final Cut delays, are right about noon.

      • Rob says:

        Will you ever post a video of you playing using the Echorec delay? Not a full review, but just a demo? Very interested how it matches up with some of your gear.

      • Bo says:

        Not a more helpful person than you in the Whole World Wide Web. This along with the tip to explore Modes 1,3 and 6 has got me very busy and very happy! Next step is to turn down the internal modulation trim pot. Hey Bjorn…i’m running mine after a Boss TU3…notice any problems with The Echorec’s signal in regards to buffers?

        Thanks for everything!

        • Bjorn says:

          Not really. The ER has a buffer switch as well, which I guess would eliminate any issues but I haven’t tried that myself. True bypass seems to work just fine :)

  33. Kris says:

    Bjorn,

    I’ve recently upgraded to a larger pedal board and wanted to run my chain by you again to get your thoughts before I start making my evidence audio patch cables.

    Fender strat > pure tone buffer? > tc electronics mini tune > dunlop wah > effectrode PC 2a compressor > mojo hand fx phaser > drybell vibe machine > vick audio 73 ram > buffalo patriot > wampler plexi drive deluxe > mooer elect lady > costlab chorus > earnie ball volume pedal > tc electronics flashback delay> Boss RT 20 > wet stereo reverb > ditto looper > HK tubemeister 18

    1. Think I need to move anything around?

    2. Do you recommend keeping my pure tone buffer where I have it in my chain described boave or right after my wah? Figure I dont need it at the end of the chain since the RT20 has a buffer that can handle pushing the signal back to the amp. I’m running 15 ft cables, guitar to board and board to amp.

    Thanks Bjorn!

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Kris! The chain looks fine :) I wouldn’t change anything. A good rule is to keep the dedicated buffer first. That way, the pickups will be driven through to the amp. A second buffer could be placed last – even when you have buffered pedals – to balance any conflicts within the board.

  34. Marco Stroppa says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    what about your Boss RT-20 settings?

  35. Nicolas says:

    Hello Bjorn,

    I’d like your advice about the best MXR Phase 90 Clone pedal available?
    A friend is offering to sell his BYOC 2knobs Script 90 clone (additional knob for depth, conterclockwise it’s like the original). But there’s the Whirlwind orange Box, the MXR Script reissue…

    Same question about the Gold Box from Whrilwing vs The BYOC Distortion + Clone (choose between DOD 250 and MXR Disto + specs)?

    Please help!!!!!

    Best regards,

    Nicolas

    • Bjorn says:

      The BYOC is great. All of their pedals are. I swear by the MXR ’74 reissue but it doesn’t have a led and it’s hardwire bypass, which does drain some of your high end. The Whirlwind pedals are awesome. All three of them. Dead on the originals, with led and true bypass.

  36. Marcel Costoya says:

    Hello Bjorn,

    I’m thinking about buying an affordable compressor. What do you think between Whirlwind Red Box and Soul Preacher ? besides the two I’ve also read that the Rothwell Love Squeeze is very good.

    Please let me know!

    Best regards,

    Marcel.

  37. Chris says:

    Hey Bjorn,

    As one of the most experienced Colorsound Power Boost owners I can think of; do you have any suggestions for something that does the same job but cleans up better with the volume control? I’m looking for something that can go from quite saturated Trower-esque overdrive to sparkling clean with just the volume control of the guitar (Either another Colorsound copy or something I can do for the original that will make it more dynamic). I was also wodering how something like the Xotic EP Booster or the Analogman Beano Boost would sound going into the input of a Colorsound Powerboost

    Many thanks for any help you can give,

    Chris

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Chris! The Powerboost reissue with the master volume control has a lot of headroom and you shouldn’t have any problems getting a wider tone span with it. The Buffalo FX Powerboost and ThroBak Overdriveboost also has a lot of headroom, although the latter has a fairly harsh overdrive tone. I’ve never tried using boosters with a Powerbooster so I can’t really tell.

  38. FXPedal says:

    Wow, great work! He didn’t use them much but do you have any advice on wah pedals? Also, some of his fuzz tones on More, specifically The Nile Song and Ibiza Bar, sound like a Tone Bender. Is that a germanium FF?

    • Bjorn says:

      Thanks! David usually used either the old Vox or original Cry Baby. They’re, or at least were in those days, the same pedal. Personally, I’m using the Wylde Wah for a deeper low end. I’ve never seen David using a Tonebender, although it sure sounds like one on More and also some early live performances in 1968. I do think it’s a Ge FF though. He used a Selmer Treble and Bass amp at that point and the combo sounds very saturated and dark.

  39. carlos-Brazil says:

    Recently I’ve removed the “Nova Delay” from my setup (the pedal is very sensitive to dust, fragile etc.). It was replaced by a “Strymon TimeLine” which seems much more versatile. What do you think, Bjorn?

    • Bjorn says:

      I think they’re both great sounding and they cover much of the same ground as well as offering something different. It’s hard to beat the Strymon stuff though.

  40. Ian Hamilton says:

    Hi Bjorn! Congrats on the recent shows!

    I wanted to ask you about the BK Butler Tube Driver. On BK Butler’s website, the product is offered with, or without, an “Custom 5-knob bias” option.

    Which version do you have, and if you do have the custom 5-knob version (or even better, both versions for comparison), have you found the additional bias knob to be essential or at least important for achieving Gilmour tones? The increase in the price with the 5-kno option is significant enough to make me think carefully…

    Also, did you swap out the stock tube for a different tube?

    Thanks as always, Bjorn!
    Ian

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Ian! The bias control allows you to fine tune the gain stage. It’s an option often used on germanium fuzz pedals, as these have a tendency to change in character depending on the humidity and temperature. On the Tube Driver it’s used to tune the tube’s voltage. Mine is the stock 4-knob version but I’ve tried the 5-knob but didn’t see much use for the bias control. You can achieve a bit more headroom with it but it also changes the overall character of the pedal. It’s a bit like swapping the 12AX7 tube with a 12AU7, which is considerably milder, but the chance is not as dramatic. Personally, I’d go for the 4-knob.

  41. Patrick Phelps says:

    Thanks. I am now going to change my pedal board and add a compressor and switch box to loop them all for different sounds that I can programme in and use combinations with the touch of a single switch.

  42. Matthew Kehley says:

    Hey Bjorn, quick Big Muff question. I’m in the market for my first Big Muff and I’m looking to get something that will get me reasonably close to Gilmour’s “Pulse” tones. That would mean a Bass Big Muff or something along those lines would be the best choice. Then I saw that the new Deluxe Big Muff Pi came out and EHX claims that it can emulate the sound of most BMP’s, Russian ones included. The Deluxe seems to be the better option for me because I also need something versatile as well and the Deluxe seems to fit that bill. Thoughts?

    Thanks,

    Matt

    • Bjorn says:

      The Deluxe can cover just about every Big Muff model, from the triangle to the Sovteks. There are better sounding Muffs out there for sure but the Deluxe is very versatile and well worth checking out.

  43. Ron Garza says:

    Tough question, but if you had to choose, would you go with the RT-20 or the Chorus for Gilmour Tones? Let’s say you had enough money to only buy one of them. :)

    • Bjorn says:

      I would og for the RT20. The chorus, although important for that 1984-1994 period, it is a subtle effect. The RT20 does a great job at replicating David’s rotary tones, which is a huge part of his 1975-94 tones and Animals and Wall in particular.

  44. Hi, Bjorn. I guess I’m one of those dinosaurs that has followed Pink Floyd from the beginning ( gives my age away). My gear has been collecting dust for many years, and I’ve only recently decided to pursue my hobby again.
    My gear consists of an old Hondo II Les Paul copy that was refitted with the electrics from a Gibson one the way to the grave yard for physical damage to the wood, an original Fender Blues Deluxe, and an Ovation Patriot in dire need of some top repair.
    I really need some effects 101 to get me going again. I’m on a tight budget and my main endeavors in life are nursing and golf.
    I used to play a lot of “wood” music and have followed Stephen Stills through his career as well as being a Floyd and Jethro Tull addict.
    Any reccomendations for my bedroom rig. Can access an entry level Strat for a great price, but I’d rather start with a basic setup to see if the fever will hold and my fingers will work like when I was a kid. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
    Michael

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Michael! Assuming you want a small palette covering a wide range of tones, I’d go for a distortion, overdrive, perhaps a modulation and a delay. These four pedals should give you a nice start. Your Les Paul and Fender amp demands something versatile and perhaps not the typical Gilmour Big Muff/fuzz setup as these will probably sound dull and fizzy on your setup. A lot has happened in the budget segment lately and I recommend checking out the Mooer mini pedals. These are very well built and they sound great! Check out the Black Secret distortion, Hustler Drive or Blues Mood overdrives, the ElecLady flanger or Orange Ninety phaser for modulations and one of their delays, like the Reecho. Check out the overdrive and distortion buyer’s guide as well for some tips. Hope this helped :)

  45. craig says:

    hi bjorn
    Have you ever reviewed the STRYMON MOBIUS?
    cheers craig

    • Bjorn says:

      Nope. Don’t have much experience with it. Based on the little I do have I think it sounds really great but I can’t provide any user help.

    • Carlos-Brazil says:

      Hi, Craig, how are you? The Strymon Mobius, as all Strymon’s products, is awesome, versatile and robust – its a combination of amazing modulation effects. Unfortunately it does not allow the use of more then one effect simultaneously (The “Nova Modulator”, for instance, allows the combination of two different effects at the same time but… the pedal is is less robust than Strymon’s and is very sensitive to dust – over time various failures appear). Regards!

  46. The TC Electronic D-Two delay also covers a lot of ground that the vintage 2290 units did but for a more affordable price and in a rackmount form.

  47. Berky says:

    Analogman allows you to build out their pedals in a variety of configurations. What are your recommendations for the NTK275 and BC109?

    • Bjorn says:

      I’ve only tried different versions of the NKT275. I recommend getting one with a bias knob. It allows you to fine tune the gain stage.

  48. Marcel Costoya says:

    Hi Bjorn!

    Have you tried out the TC Viscous Vibe? By the way, I just got the Whirlwind Red Box a few weeks ago. It’s really a very nice compressor.

    Thanks and best of luck on the new Airbag project.

  49. Gergely Riba says:

    If I have a TC Electronics nova system with an expression pedal and a wah pedal is there any point to use a buffer box? Thank you,
    G

  50. To buy gilmour in a box would set the average punter back £2853.00. Money well spent….quite a lot of hardware for the money. I especially liked the echorec the drybell vibe and the vics audio 73 rams head. Still it would take a good 10 days to have it all delivered. Time to reflect…I think so!

    • Bjorn says:

      Put your money in a nice guitar and amp. Buy 2-3 Mooer pedals, including a delay and overdrive and start practicing. That’s all you need :) Everything else is just for fun :)

  51. Brad Roller says:

    Hi Bjorn, I bugged you a few days about the color sound powerbooster, lol it’s my favorite overdrive, well I use a clone, (Vick audio over driver)but you get the idea. Even though it’s a vintage overdrive tone, in your opinion, do you think it would fit as an overdrive for modern music? Not covers but like original songs? I use it on my own songs a lot and I guess it comes down to an opinion and taste but if it is indeed your own personal music, it really wouldn’t matter if it had a vintage tone…right? I just want your opinion. I use it for rhythms and leads and although I use it how Gilmour did, I feel that it’s still a beautiful and unique tone

    • Bjorn says:

      It’s really not that different from the Tube Driver when you crank it. They both got that timeless tube amp tone. In that regard, you can use it for pretty much anything. For me, when I record guitars, it always depend on what tones I need for the specific parts I’m recording. Sometimes I go for a PB and sometimes a TS808 (or similar). Blending vintage effects with modern sounds, or vice versa, can create some unique stuff. Having said that, I would describe the PB as vintage sounding while an OCD or similar is perhaps more modern sounding.

  52. Steven says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    I have used your buyers guide when searching for pedals to get that Gilmour tone. Your reviews have been more that helpful over the years. I was wondering if you would ever consider reviewing multi effect processors like Fractal Audio Axe Fx II or pedalboards such as Fractal Audio FX8 or the Line 6 Helix or is David’s tone better achieved through pedals?

    Steven

    • Bjorn says:

      Thanks, Steven! I’d like to. Trouble is that you need to spend some time with these units to really uncover their potential. Since I don’t own a Fractial, I need to borrow one for a longer period of time.

  53. David says:

    Clearly not the same kind of thing, but I was curious as to what you thought of the Fractal Audio effects/modeling etc.

    • Bjorn says:

      I’ve only tried it very briefly and only a couple of presets. I need to spend some time with it to give an opinion but these things have come a long way and amp and effect modelling is definitely worth looking into… for several reasons. I’ve been using Line 6 stuff for years and also the AmpliTube. I think that if you manage to figure these units out you can get some pretty convincing tones.

  54. Doc Dave says:

    I bought an Eventide H9 Max (replaced my Space) and disappointed to find out theres no real Uni-Vibe or Leslie, but some rotaries, but frankly, not the greatest, but still working on tweaking them and they are useful. the Vibes and trems are good too. However, Im finding myself going to my Mooer Elec Lady more and more, even when Gilmour wasnt using the Mistress, and instead of chorus, and it gives me that elusive tone that seems unique to gilmour with all my other gear. SOOOO, shout out to the Elec. Lady – only issue is knobs arent are smooth in sweep as I would like, but I have high-end pedals I can say the same about too.

  55. David says:

    Is there a pedal you can recommend to put after compression and distortion, as a mid-boost to make them behave better on a Deluxe Reverb? Many of the pedals above, you remark don’t do as well with the Deluxe because of the scooped mids, so I was hoping adding something before the amp could serve as a mid boost without coloring everything else too much in the process.

  56. Mariano says:

    Hi Bjorn, what do you think about hammond Leslie or Leslie G pedals for rotary speaker simulation? Thanks for your great job.
    Mariano

    • Bjorn says:

      Sounds very nice. Captures that classic Leslie rotary perfectly. In terms of replicating David’s rotary tones though, I think the Boss RT20 is a better choice. Keep in mind that he’s been using either a Yamaha RA200 or the custom Doppolas since the late 70s and they sound much more chorusy than an actual Leslie.

  57. Kris says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    I wanted to get your thoughts on the Costalab Chorus Lab vs the Mooer Ensemble King. Price really isn’t the issue, chorus lab takes up quiet a bit more real estate on the pedalboard then the Ensemble King. Looking for the better CE-2 clone. Which do you recommend? Thanks!

    • Bjorn says:

      The Chorus lab is more subtle, even though both have the mix control. The Ensemble has considerably more mids, which makes it colour more. Both are great but I like the CL better :)

  58. Bern Merchant says:

    Hi once again Bjorn. Quick question, and I wasn’t sure where to post since there isn’t a dedicated compressor section on your site. I just bought a BOSS CS-2 off eBay yesterday – happened to find one at a fair price, and I’ve wanted to try one for a while. Now I know settings are very individual based on song, style, other gear, etc, but I’m wondering if there are any very general settings that you could recommend as a starting point for using the CS-2 for a Gilmour sound? Given that the CS-2 can be set up in a variety of ways since it has an attack knob, or can be set to emphasise sustain or squish, I’m curious as to what you’d recommend. Do you have a certain range of settings that you tend to gravitate to when you’ve used it in demos or the jamming vids? Thanks?

    • Bjorn says:

      You’ll find settings for all of David’s pedals in the David Gilmour Gear Guide. Click the settings and setup banner on top of each page. The CS2 was usually set for something like this: level 2:00, attack 11:00, sustain 11:30 (o’clock)

  59. Brad Roller says:

    Hi Bjorn! Hope all is well. A while back I told you I would let you know about my experiences in comparing the whirlwind orange box with the mxr custom shop phaser. Well, I had been using the whirlwind for a good while and loved it (still do) i thought I’d try the mxr. At first I couldn’t tell much of a difference, but after I listened closely I noticed a few things. One, the whirlwind doesn’t have a volume drop obviously, second the whirlwind, to my ears, has a tad bit more mids, and when strummed hard, produces a tiny bit of gain. Its like a mix between the script phase 90 and the block logo, but closer to the script. it’s almost like the mxr is less dominating and blends easier with gain pedals. And like you said the mxr has a bit more mojo. ;) the only thing that aggravated me about the mxr was that it ran on battery only, and I would forget to unhook the patch cables and kill the battery. I modified mine to have a power supply and it didn’t effect the tone at all. But for anyone who wants an upgrade from the block logo, the whirlwind is a great option. It has true bypass and an LED. BUT if you want the real deal and all the wish you were here sounds and mojo, the script model really is the way to go!

  60. DocDave says:

    But have you tried the VFE Phaser (I think its called the Enterprise now or visa versa) yet? Got all the MXR goodness in it, plus much more a 45 and a 90, with different ways to adjust, plus a great vibrato in it, all the same size as an MXR! This has remained on my board for a very long time. The only advantage to the MXR is sometimes simplicity is just refreshing and easy, but I use the Vibrato more than all the vibrato and rotary patches on my Eventide H9. It just sounds authentic (not a Uni-Vibe but use it for Trower because can get it close enough). I have no connection to Peter or the Van Rutter family who make the VFE pedals and thats the only VFE Ive had the pleasure to try.

  61. G.B says:

    Bjorn! What do you think is the best compressor? The demeter compulator, the Whirlwind red box or the MXR dyna comp (vintage or Script reissue)? Or do you know a better one?

    • Bjorn says:

      There are lots of great sounding compressors out there that will offer different types of compression. I’ve always loved the script Dyna but the Demeter is hreat too. A bit more output and a slightly more subtle compression. I’m currently using a PC-2A from Effectrode and the Iron Fist from YellowSquash.

  62. Joaquim says:

    Bjorn where did Gilmour place his compressors in the chain?

  63. Kjetil says:

    For a beginner, this is a lot of boxes! If you’d had to pick one, or two (okay, maybe three), which would it be?

    • Bjorn says:

      This list cover all of David’s tones from all eras, so you obviously don’t need all of them to nail a good Gilmour tone. I always recommend a distortion for the heavy leads, overdrive for rhythms and the bluesier leads and a delay. This will take you far :) Which overdrive and distortion depends on what tones you want and how well your amp can handle those pedals…

  64. Dimitris says:

    Many folks get impressed with my Overdriver, BC109 and CB Echorec and keep asking how to get the “Gilmour tone” with just a pedal!
    Even though there are many different Gilmour tones. Don’t you agree the best ONLY ONE pedal anyone could get, would be a Germanium Fuzz? At least for up to WYWH tones.
    Boosted cleans, crunchy overdrive, and heavy fuzz!
    Kinda miss my Fulltone 69… Even though Silicons are real beasts, the Germaniums have some very musical warmth.
    PS. In the studio I play, lies a JAM Rooster next to an AC15… Back to my Gallagher roots!

    • Bjorn says:

      True but whether or not that will work depends very much on the pickups and the amp. I wouldn’t use a germanium fuzz with active pickups or humbuckers and a solid state amp. But if you have something similar to Dvaid’s setup, then yes, a germanium fuzz is extremely versatile… as both he and Hendrix proved.

  65. Lorenzo says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    I have a big dilemma and I hope you can help me to sort out.

    Assume that I only play at home, so I cannot go loud (I also use headphones sometimes), and I have a Pod X3 Live that I play trough a Roland Microcube.

    Does it worth to switch to a tube amp and real pedals? If so, what do you suggest with a 700-800€ budget?

    Thanks
    L.

    • Bjorn says:

      Depends on how loud you can play. If headphones are your only option, then you’re better off with what you have. Most smaller tube amps these days offer a 1w power scaling, which means that a 20w head can be attenuated down to a single watt, while maintaining much of the tone. If you want to take your tones one step further, then I definitely recommend venturing into a tube and some pedals. Check out the amp buyer’s gear guide and this feature for some tips on getting your favourite tones on a bedroom setup. Let me know if you need more help.

  66. Hyunil Kim says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    Thank you so much for a ton of info!

    For my case, RT-20 would take up rather too much space on the pedalboard for comparably little usage. Are there any other pedals in smaller size, a mini pedal preferably, that would work?

    Thanks!

    • Bjorn says:

      No one that sounds the same or similar but I guess a chorus would give you the closest match. Check out the Mooer Ensemble King.

      • Hyunil Kim says:

        Thanks a lot Bjorn! I just got a Valeton CE-10 (Supposed to be a clone of Boss CE-2), and this thing’s amazing for it’s price and size! I think this should work! Thanks again for your suggestion!

  67. Phoenix says:

    Hey Bjorn,
    I have an MXR microflanger. Could you comment or make any comparison/contrast between it and the Mooer Eleclady with respect to a Gilmour tone?
    Thanks so much for your essential site!
    Phoenix

    • Bjorn says:

      The MXR has more of that Van Halen flavour, with a more metallic jet kind of tone, while the ElecLady/Mistress has a much more liquidy or chorusy tone. Can’t really be compared.

      • Phoenix says:

        Ah. I see. That liquid chorusy tone is exactly what I am after, *not* the metallic tone. That helps a lot.

        I have one more question if you don’t mind. About chorus pedals. I hate the metallic tone in any pedal, chorus, flanger, etc., I really the warm liquid kinds of tone. I have a JHS emperor chorus which I got because it’s analog and I expected it to be a very warm sounding, rich chorus.

        Do you have any experience with this pedal? (I find it to have a more metallic sound) Do you know of a warmer liquid sounding chorus? Boss just released the Waza CE-2 (or 3), I wonder how that sounds?

        Thanks Bjorn,

        Phoenix

        • Bjorn says:

          The CE2 is very smooth and warm and I haven’t noticed any of that jet type of sound. The new Waza model seems to capture the tone perfectly but there are other clones out there as well, which are worth checking out, like the BYOC Analog Chorus, Mooer Ensemble King and also the EHX Small Clone.

          • Phoenix says:

            Thanks Bjorn!

          • Phoenix says:

            Any thoughts or comparison contrast on the JHS Emperor versus any of the other chorus, RT 20, etc. with respect to smoothness vs metallic sound etc?

            • Bjorn says:

              The Emperor has a nice, vintage flavour and you can easily dial in tones similar to the CE2 and similar. The RT20, has a much more distinct swirl and almost a flanger character, with a bit of that leslie tremolo going on. Two very different pedals. The Emperor is an excellent alternative, if you’re looking for vintage, warm chorus.

              • Phoenix says:

                Thanks for taking the time to reply to my question Bjorn. I’m going to try and find a place where I can check out the RT20 and if I like it, find a used one. I want to add some swirl and thickening to my sound for leads. Nothing really pronounced, just something that sweetens up my tone and makes it a fuller and richer. I play with two amps, not necessarily stereo, but I can often use one against the other, with a delay or modulation or even whammy with ocatve up, on pedal, and not the other, so the two amps together make a new sound that is awesome. The RT20 might really work well. I’ll have to try one.
                You really do a service and offer a priceless gift to guitarists like myself. Thank you for being a warrior!

  68. Simone says:

    Hi Bjorn! very cool site! i have a question for you, i have a fender strato with emg-dg20, hiwatt ht20 and a pedalboard with buffer>dynacomp>vick audio ram’s head 73>tube driver>and modulation. i would to try a boss ge-7 eq, is the right choice? it helpful? thanks a lot
    Simon

  69. gezzed says:

    Hey ! What about the Keeley Dark Side ?

  70. Uh oh…Keeley’ new Dark Side pedal looks, sounds like Mr. Gilmour “in a box” type pedal.
    Looking forward to your review, as they credit your website for inspiration.

  71. Klaus says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    Just heard about an “all in one” Gilmour box, called The Dark Side, by Robert Keeley. The demo on line sounds pretty darn good, was wondering if you’ve heard of it, or maybe already tried it? Would love to see a review.
    Thanks much
    BTW, loving the custom shop relique gilmour strat and the “hendrix” strap that I got on your recommendation.

  72. Rick says:

    Hi again Bjorn
    When is the review of the “Keeley Darkside” coming?
    would love to know your thoughts.
    Received mine yesterday and think it’s as close to “Gilmour in a box” as were gonna get out of 1 pedal.
    The fuzz alone is worth the cost.
    I put a CS-2 before it to smooth it out and it sounds amazing.
    Many thanks
    Rick.

    • Bjorn says:

      In a week or two. Just got it and I need some time to record everything.

    • John Coleman says:

      I like the Dark Side fuzz so much I got rid of my ’73 Ram’s Head (which I could never really get tweaked for my rig). About to ditch my Orbital Modulator in favor of the rotary sim too! Haven’t had much chance to fiddle with the flanger and phaser/vibe yet, though.

  73. Renaud says:

    Too late! I couldn’t wait and received mine yesterday.
    Obviously not very well fit for live (except if you have many) because it requires a lot of manual changes when switching from one setting to another, but it really sounds great in home studio.
    Looking forward to hearing how you make it sound!
    Please share your settings then!

  74. Ondrej says:

    Hallo Bjorn and other Gilmour fans!
    I am playing in Pink Floyd tribute band in the Czech Republic. I have read many many articles about David Gilmour sound and then I bought some stompboxes and put it in pedal board. But there was a big problem – switching sounds was something like dancing on pedalboard. And my pedals were not flexible to set different delay times, different volume levels, drives…

    So I switched to Line 6 POD HD 500X – I run it into clean Fender Blues Deluxe amp. Sound is quite OK and switching is OK. Every song has its own presets. But I miss something – the real naturalness of the tone, that I had with my stompboxes. I don’t know what to do – Is it better to build rack of effect with MIDI switching or just buy some really good digital processor – like Fractal AX8 or Line 6 Helix. They are both very expensive, but not so expensive like building rack with high quality effects. I would like to spare some money and in time horizon of next few year I would like to make upgrade.

    I have also problems with transport so I can’t go with double 10U rack like David Gilmour:)

    Have you got real experience with those digital processors or MIDI switching systems?

    My gear is:
    T613 – Czech hand made RAT clone
    MXR dynacomp
    Mooer Phaser
    Electronic Orange Pig Hoof
    EHX Linear power booster
    Boss chorus
    Boss delay

    Thank you for advice.
    Ondrej
    http://www.czechfloyd.com

    • Bjorn says:

      I don’t have that much experience with switching systems, so I’m probably not the right one to ask. Anyone?

    • Carlos-Brazil says:

      The Line 6’s pedalboards are awesome. I suggest the new (and expensive) far more advanced HELIX (with its 4 send-returns entries for our “favorite pedals” or “pedal-chains” – those that can make some “special difference” where Helix’s emulations do not fit exactly to your needs and each of them can be positioned as you wish on any patch).

  75. Ed says:

    Hey Bjorn I just got the Electronic Orange Moon-Vibe MkII and completely agree with you that it’s the best Univibe on the market. I previously owned the Drybell Vibe Machine which I also loved but the Moon-Vibe is definitely a step above. I was just wondering what are some of your favorite settings and as always thanks for all that you do!

  76. David Lisle says:

    My Dark Side arrived a few days ago – having some fun playing with it though I have to agree with Renaud it won’t be good for live use unless you employ someone to make the adjustments for you, or have a bank of them.
    I am getting some great sounds out of it though, I’m sure it won’t be long before there’s a site with settings listed on it.

    • Renaud says:

      I finally returned mine. Great sounding pedal but I was bored by so many manual changes…
      I started to list all settings from the official demo video, I stopped after two pages. Was spending more time turning the knobs than playing.
      Has anyone considered the Axe FX as “the” Gilmour box? I’ve heard what the guys from Brit Floyd do with it and I’ve been really impressed.

  77. Dale Schenekl says:

    Buy a Keeley Darkside pedal and you are more than half way there.

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