Modulation

Chorus, phaser and flangers – or modulation effects – are the colouring on your pedalboard. Some use them carefully, adding subtle nuances to the tone, while others use them to create new and unique textures. In this feature we’ll look at a handful of models and how to incorporate these in your rig, with David Gilmour’s tones in mind.

Modulating a guitar tone is an old trick. Back in the early days of studio trickery, setting up two tape recorders and slowing one of them down, would create a haunting phasing or flanging (Gilmour did this on A Great Day for Freedom). Likewise, when the tape and machinery on the old echo machines would wear down it created a subtle modulation. The more the unit was in need of maintenance, the more pronounced the chorus effect would get.

The phaser pedal appeared in the early 70s with Oberheim, Maestro and MXR among others. By the mid and late 70s, companies like Electro Harmonix and Roland/Boss had also created the first flanger and chorus pedals. The idea was to capture the sound of a rotating speaker and the Doppler effect.

David Gilmour and modulation

Gilmour has been using Leslies since late 1968 and continued with different rotating speakers in his live setup up to 1994. In early 1972 he featured the UniVibe in his rig and the pedal was notably used on Breathe. The UniVibe was replaced by the MXR Phase 90 in medio 1974, which was widely used on the WYWH album.

Between 1977-83 the Electro Harmonix Electric Mistress flanger would be David’s main modulation effect. His debut 1978 solo album and Final Cut in particular feature the pedal. By 1981 he also incorporated two Boss CE2 chorus pedals. The pedal became a staple in David’s rig between 1981-2002, used both as a stand alone effect and for stereo splitting.

Chorus, flanger or phaser?

Obviously, only you can decide which one you want or perhaps you want all three. In terms of creating accurate and authentic Gilmour tones, you should keep all three and only use the right effect for the right era, as described above (see also the David Gilmour Gear Guide for details on each album and tour).

If you have to choose one you might want to consider which tones you think is most important. Neither can fully replicate the other but you might be able to do without one or two and still get the tones you want from your overdrives, fuzz and delays. A chorus is perhaps the most versatile, also for other genres and tones, but also the most subtle and perhaps a bit redundant for some tones. Flanger is very dominating and should be used with care. However, you might find it hard to nail authentic Animals, Wall and Final Cut tones without it.

A phaser certainly doesn’t cover a chorus nor a flanger but it’s a must for authentic WYWH tones and Have a Cigar in particular. A vintage style 4-stage phaser like the Phase 90 will also easily cover a UniVibe and stuff like Breathe, Any Colour You Like and Brain Damage.

A good tip is to use modulations with care. Unlike overdrive, distortion and delay, a chorus or flanger can sound very dated and out of place if you use them too much or for the wrong reasons. All modulation effects sounds best if you use them for specific stuff and even better, to create unique tones that defines your sound and playing.

Modulations on the pedalboard

There are different opinions on where modulations should go in the effect chain. Most guitarists want them after the gains – either by placing them after the gain pedals or in the amp’s effects loop for bypassing the preamp stage. Others wants the modulations to be distorted and place them either before the gain pedals or in front of a distorted amp. Neither approach is wrong. It’s just different ways of creating a tone.

David Gilmour has always kept his amps clean and placed the modulation effects undistorted between the gain effects and the amps. This allows the phasers, chorus and flangers to sound natural and clean. Eddie Van Halen would place his Phase 90 and MXR Flanger in front of a cranked Marshall stack. This created a distorted modulation and some very unique and easily recognizable tones. Jimi Hendrix would do a little of both. He often altered between having the UniVibe before and after the fuzz but always in front of a distorted amp.

Personally, I like having the UniVibe and phaser in front of the gains and the chorus and flanger after – all on a clean amp. Try different combinations and listen to how that fits your setup.

All pedals listed below were tested on a Stratocaster featuring D Allen Voodoo 69 neck and middle pickups and a Seymour Duncan SSL5 bridge pickups and a Radix Deluxe PRS model with Seymour Duncan Phat Cat P90s into Reeves Custom 50 and Laney Lionheart L20h tube stacks.

Chorus

I’ve focused on David Gilmour’s setup with the Boss CE2. The more modern units like the Boss CE5, MXR Black Label Chorus and MXR Analog Chorus can also be tweaked for similar tones.

Boss CE2
Warm, analog tones with a subtle mid range. The CE2 adds a sweet dimension to your tones, compliments the cleans and blends very well with heavier gains. A must for David’s 80s and 90s tones and a staple for everything that had a riff in the MTV era. The CE2 is easy to find but the prices are rising fast.
Recommended placement: after gains
Gilmour tones: About Face – PULSE

Smaller amps/bedroom level: 10/10

Gilmourish.com score: 9/10

BYOC Analog Chorus
This is basically a clone of the Boss CE2 with true bypass switching. Compared to its counterpart, the Analog Chorus has a noticeably darker tone and more mid range. I think this suits cleans and mild overdrives especially but it’s a bit overwhelming with heavier gains. True bypass is perhaps a bonus and it also has a wider depth sweep that the CE2.
Recommended placement: after gains
Gilmour tones: About Face – PULSE

Smaller amps/bedroom level: 10/10

Gilmourish.com score: 7/10

Buyer's Gear Guide - Gilmourish PickCostaLab ChorusLab
The ChorusLab is based on the CE2 with a warm analog character and a super sweet, liquidy tone. Compared to the CE2, it has a much more transparent tone. It blends very well with other pedals and it never gets dominant. A huge pluss is the mix or effect level control that allows you to blend in just the right amount of the chorus. The pedal also feature true bypass. See my full review of the ChorusLab here.
Recommended placement: after gains
Gilmour tones: About Face – PULSE

Smaller amps/bedroom level: 10/10

Gilmourish.com score: 10/10

Jam Pedals Waterfall
The Waterfall is based on the CE2 with an equally transparent tone as the ChorusLab. The chorus tone is much more dominant than the two mentioned and few extra features allows you to tweak the circuit for anything from subtle analog chorus to wild psychedelic swirls. Perhaps not the typical Gilmour pedal but a very cool and unusual chorus that’s well worth checking out. See my full review of the Waterfall here.
Recommended placement: after gains
Gilmour tones: About Face – PULSE

Smaller amps/bedroom level: 10/10

Gilmourish.com score: 8/10

EXH Nano Clone
Although very similar to the CE2, the Nano Clone has a unique tone on its own. A bit more transparent but also slightly darker sounding with a warm, smooth character. Like all EHX modulations, the Nano Clone has a nasty volume drop when engaged. Sadly, this is not fixed on the Nano. Nevertheless, it’s worth checking out as it fits Gilmour’s tones nicely.
Recommended placement: after gains
Gilmour tones: About Face – PULSE

Smaller amps/bedroom level: 10/10

Gilmourish.com score: 6/10

Mooer Ensemble King
Based on the Boss CE2 the Ensemble King feature the MN3007 chip for warm analog tones. Compared to the CE2 this one’s got an overall warmer tone but also a bit more mid range giving it a slight volume boost when engaged. It’s also true bypass. The rate swirl is also a bit more defined but the featured volume control allows some fine tuning of the chorus by blending in the right amount of clean signal. An excellent budget alternative to the CE2.
Recommended placement: after gains
Gilmour tones: About Face – PULSE
Smaller amps/bedroom level: 10/10

Gilmourish.com score: 8/10

Buyer's Gear Guide - Gilmourish PickBoss RT-20 Rotary Ensemble
The RT20 is meant to be a Leslie/rotary sim but it sounds more like a very deep and articulated chorus. Personally, I find that to be the beauty of this pedal. The RT20 can do a very convincing Yamaha RA200 kind of tone, with that liquidy swirl and flanging from Animals and Wall. It’s not quite the same of course but the pedal has become one of my favourite modulations and a secret weapon for recording. The mix control allows you to blend in as much dry signal as you need for either smoothening out harsh distortions or adding that airy PULSE rotary.
Recommended placement: after gains
Gilmour tones: Animals – PULSE

Smaller amps/bedroom level: 10/10

Gilmourish.com score: 9/10

Flanger

In terms of replicating David Gilmour’s tones, there’s really no flanger other than the Electric Mistress that will do. Its unique, liquidy tone can’t be replicated with other more conventional flangers.

EHX Electric Mistress
The original 9-18V flanger has a nasty volume drop when engaged and due to the lack of a noise filter, there’s a lot of hissing and weird oscillation going on. However, the warm analog, liquidy tone is spot on David’s Animals and Wall modulated live tones. Paired with a Big Muff this will take you right back to that era. You’re probably best off with a clone or the Deluxe but it’s well worth giving it a try if you want to spend a little extra.
Recommended placement: after gains
Gilmour tones: Animals – Final Cut/Rattle

Smaller amps/bedroom level: 10/10

Gilmourish.com score: 6/10

EHX Deluxe Electric Mistress
Personally, I prefer this one over the 9-18V model. Although it has a slight volume drop (not nearly as severe as its predecessor) it sounds much warmer, with a more focused and musical flanging. The Deluxe also blends better with heavier distortions and fuzz and nails the typical Gilmour-Mistress era perfectly. Be sure to get your hands on either the original 80s Deluxe or a 90s reissue. The current stock model sounds considerably darker with more midrange.
Recommended placement: after gains
Gilmour tones: Animals – Final Cut/Rattle

Smaller amps/bedroom level: 10/10

Gilmourish.com score: 10/10

EHX Neo Mistress/ Stereo Electric Mistress
Electro Harmonix has come up with a couple of Mistress spin-offs. These should not be mistaken for neither the 9-18V version nor the Deluxe. Although the Neo can produce some fairly convincing classic Mistress tones for your cleans, it sounds way too dominating with overdrives and distortions. It’s limited set of controls, makes it hard to tame the effect. The Stereo Mistress has a similar character to the 9-18V model but it’s basically just a very metallic, mid rangy chorus. The Stereo is also surprisingly noisy.

Buyer's Gear Guide - Gilmourish PickMooer ElecLady
The ElecLady sounds like a cross between the 9-18V and Deluxe Mistress. Not as liquidy as the original but a bit more open sounding a brighter than the Deluxe. The control knobs has a very limited range and it can be hard to dial in some usable tones but once you find the sweetspot, this thing will be hard to tell apart from the real deal. The pedalboard friendly footprint, true bypass switching and silent circuitry makes this an excellent budget choice.
Recommended placement: after gains
Gilmour tones: Animals – Final Cut/Rattle

Smaller amps/bedroom level: 10/10

Gilmourish.com score: 9/10

Hartman Analog Flanger
This is one of the very few, if not the only, true replicas of the original 9V Electric Mistress. Hartman has managed to solve the issues with volume drop and noise and the Analog Flanger sounds remarkably close to the original, classic flanger with a liquidy, swirly tone. Like the original though it works well with cleans and mild overdrives but makes the heavier sounding Muffs and fuzz sound a bit thin and fizzy. Sadly, Hartman closed doors in early 2015, so you better hurry up if you want one of these for an affordable price!
Recommended placement: after gains
Gilmour tones: Animals – Final Cut/Rattle

Smaller amps/bedroom level: 10/10

Gilmourish.com score: 8/10

Phasers

The vintage style 4-stage phaser is essential for Gilmour’s mid 70s tones. Some available models has a boosted mid range, a bit of distortion and other unsuitable tone characters. I’ve based the listing on the Phase 90 and similar sounding units.

Buyer's Gear Guide - Gilmourish PickMXR 1974 CS script reissue Phase 90
This Custom Shop reissue is true to the original Phase 90 is every sense – including battery only powering, no led and a piece of foam to protect the circuit board. The tone is warm and super sweet, with that legendary phasing we all know from Shine On You Crazy Diamond and Have a Cigar. The Phase 90 also doubles nicely as a UniVibe for your Dark Side of the Moon tones. The lack of true bypass switching will steal some of your top end but pairing it up with a buffer will compensate for that.
Recommended placement: before/after gains
Gilmour tones: Dark Side of the Moon – WYWH

Smaller amps/bedroom level: 10/10

Gilmourish.com score: 10/10

MXR Phase 90 block logo
The current stock Phase 90 has a very similar tone to its predecessor, with a thick creamy phasing and throb. However, it doesn’t sound nearly as smooth as the script model. It has a slight volume boost, a bit more mid range and just a hint of break up, which doesn’t work that well with cleans and mild overdrives.
Recommended placement: before/after gains
Gilmour tones: Dark Side of the Moon – WYWH

Smaller amps/bedroom level: 10/10

Gilmourish.com score: 5/10

Maxon Phase Tone
The Phase Tone is not nearly as recognized as the Phase 90 or Small Stone but it’s just as good sounding. Unmistakably Phase 90-ish, this one has a warm and creamy phasing with perhaps an even smoother rotary sound at high speed settings. Like the Small Stone, there is a slight volume drop when engaged but personally I don’t see that as a problem.
Recommended placement: before/after gains
Gilmour tones: Dark Side of the Moon – WYWH

Smaller amps/bedroom level: 10/10

Gilmourish.com score: 9/10

EHX Small Stone Nano
Back in the 70s you would either choose a Phase 90 or a Small Stone. They ruled the market and guitarists was divided. Although the difference is minimal the Small Stone does have a slightly smoother tone and its perhaps not as thick sounding. The 70s EHX models and the green Sovtek has a noticeable volume drop when engaged but this is fixed on the current Nano.
Recommended placement: before/after gains
Gilmour tones: Dark Side of the Moon – WYWH

Smaller amps/bedroom level: 10/10

Gilmourish.com score: 8/10

Mooer Ninety Orange
Mooer has cloned just about every classic stompbox and with great success IMO. The Ninety Orange is a very close clone of the script MXR Phase 90, with the same classic 4-stage vintage phase tone. Not quite as smooth and creamy as the MXR ’74 reissue but an excellent alternative for tight budgets and cramped pedal boards – and much better sounding than the MXR block model. The Ninety also feature a mini toggle switch for vintage MXR tones and more modern phasing with a bit more mid range.
Recommended placement: before/after gains
Gilmour tones: Dark Side of the Moon – WYWH

Smaller amps/bedroom level: 10/10

Gilmourish.com score: 8/10

Feel free to use the comments field below and share your experience, recommendations and tips!

485 Responsesso far.

  1. Peter says:

    Bjorn, I would like to bring into attention LongAmp Roxanne, clone of Electric Mistress/Hartma. Built in Poland. Very good pedal, both the sound and built.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb86WnXX_uc
    Regard, Peter

  2. Martin Jørgensen says:

    Hey Bjørn.
    I was wondering if you have tried any of the Tone City pedals?
    Have a great day!

    • Bjorn says:

      Yep. Very similar to the Mooer – I suspect that they copy each others circuits – but, yeah well worth checking out.

  3. Francesco Cagnacci says:

    Hi Bjorn, have you ever tried the Mooer Soul Shiver modulation pedal? It’s a chorus,Vibrato and rotary pedal…

  4. Francesco Cagnacci says:

    Hi Bjorn! What do you think of the MXR’s flanger?

    • Bjorn says:

      Can’t go wrong. Classic tones that’s been used by some of the biggest names. It’s not a flanger I’d use for David’s tones though. It’s got much more of that metallic jet type of flanging. The Mooer E-Lady is IMO the best replication of the Eectric Mistress that David used.

  5. Daniel Farias says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    Which Mooer ElecLady settings did you use for The Wall tones like C. Numb, Hey You and Waiting for the Worms?

    Thanks!

  6. Bryan says:

    Can you comment on the TC Corona vs the Mooer Ensemble King? I’ve been really looking hard at the MXR Analog Chorus, the Corona and the Mooer. You have the Mooer highly rated which is drawing my eye, just curious if you have any experience with it in comparison to those other two.

    • Bjorn says:

      Both sounds really great and I guess the Corona is more versatile, as it can do different types of chorus sounds. I like the Ensemble King because it’s very close to the old CE-2. Perhaps a tad darker but well worth checking out.

  7. Hi Bjorn,

    What modulation pedal do you think would get closest to the studio tone of A Great Day For Freedom? I know the guitar track was double tracked and delayed to give a phasing effect, but do you think that an MXR Phase 90 would be too dominating for nailing the tone? I was thinking that a rotary pedal of some kind might sound more accurate.

    Kind regards,

    James.

    • Bjorn says:

      The closest I’ve come is with a script Phase 90 placed in front of the dirt pedal. It blends nicely with the gain and adds that slight creamy modulation. A UniVibe, place first, will also do the job but a phaser is closer I think. Rotary wouldn’t be quite right as it will either sound too chorusy on slow or too much like a tremolo on fast.

  8. James Bettes says:

    Another great article that has served me well over the years. Most recently it led me to the Mooer Ensemble King, which I absolutely love for David’s tones (and and almost everything else for that matter). In fact, I like it better for his Wall and Final Cut stuff better than my EHX DEM (especially when combined with a rotary speaker or sim) to thicken it up. Great recommendation!

    One question for reference: How does the rate position compare to an original CE-2? For example, if David had his rate set at let’s say 11 o’clock (seems to be his preferred setting), would the Ensemble King also be at 11 o’clock? Or is it offset (as in slower or faster at 12 o’clock compared to the CE-2)?

  9. Zach Milgrom says:

    Hey Bjorn,
    great thread… have been following this for years now. So I am building my first board (I am just using guitar rig now) and all I have is one pedal which is the Arc Effects Gamut. The Gurus Optivalve looks like it would be my compressor of choice. Phaser I was thinking the Skreddy Little Miss Sunshine. Chorus not really sure yet maybe you have some suggestions. For fuzz Im pretty set on the Skreddy Pink Flesh. Finally as a delay Iv’e been looking at the Gurus Amps Echosex 2 or two from Catilinbread. What do you think of these pedals? Do you have anything else that you have tried that you may recommend? What do you think about adding a propper OD in the mix to the Treble booster and fuzz?

    Thanks for all the good work and dedication you give to us, we all greatly appreciate you (:

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Zach! I always start by saying that it depends on your amp and pickups. Every pedal you’ve chosen sound great but fuzz in particular, needs the right amp. Keep in mind though that the Pink Flesh is based on a Big Muff, which is a slightly different pedal than the conventional fuzz. An overdrive is always a wise choice and again, depending on your amp, you could go for a vintage style transparent overdrive or a more modern model.

  10. Toby Harris says:

    Hey Bjorn,
    What are your thoughts on the strymon möbius?
    It truly sounds incredible,but I feel the fact you can only use one effect at a time slightly disappointing.However,a/b’d with the keeley super mod(where you can use two effects simultaneously),the möbius wins hands down.

  11. McQ7 says:

    I notice on the WYWH album web page that you indicate the Phase 90 used for the Shine On studio track, and I’m curious to know your take on whether a rotating speaker mix might sound closer to that track (using the RT20, for example). I’d recently been on a phaser chase to nail the Syd’s theme and nothing did it. However, I now have a Ventilator II with a mix knob and it sounds extremely close.
    The Knebworth 1975 “Shine On” clips I’ve found actually sound close to the album, more so than the Wembley 1974 clips which to me sound completely different than the album tone. But Gilmour must have been using a Phase 90 in 1975, as the Mistress wasn’t available until 1976.
    Anyway, I’d love to hear your take on Syd’s Theme using a Phase 90 vs using a rotating-speaker-with-mix. Thank you!

    • Bjorn says:

      A rotating speaker simulator would sound different but you would get some of that slight modulation going. The RT20 has a mix control allowing you to dial in just a small amount of modulation needed. Still, I think a script Phase 90 would be the closest.

  12. Antony Aemisegger says:

    Hello Bjorn,

    This is a great site and thank you for your efforts in compiling this information! Excellent! I did have a question. Have you tried any other Flanger effects that you feel would emulate Dave’s tone outside of those listed above? I have utilized an MXR m-117 and a Boss BF-2 but they seem sterile to my ears.

    Thanks!

  13. Nick Love says:

    Hey Bjorn! Have you seen this yet, the Keeley Dyno My Roto? Normally I’m skeptical of all in one modulation but all of the settings on this sound amazing and very Gilmourish. Might be a good swiss army knife modulation effect pedal for Gilmour tone hounds. Plus this is a great demo. I could watch these guys jam for another 10 minutes.

  14. Kris says:

    Hi Bjorn, :

    I’m building a large all era Floyd/Gilmour board, and just got a whammy v pedal. Where should I put it in my pedal chain so that I can play songs like marooned, blue, etc. See chain below:

    Guitar>analogman bc108>tuner>buffer>mini wah> dyna comp script> boss cs-2> drybell vibe> phase 90 script> buffalo fx tdx> buffalo fx patriot> pig hoof> rat> colorsound pb> eleclady> boss ce-2w>earnie ball volume pedal>boonar>nova delay>boss rt-20> strymon flint reverb> lehle little dual > buffer> amps

    Also what is the signal chain to play marooned? Thanks as always sir!

  15. Martin Jørgensen says:

    Hey Bjorn.

    Have you tried the tone city pedals? If not, what do you think of the reviews?

    Kind regards.

    Ps. I love the site and the tons of information on it. It’s my daily read :)

    • Bjorn says:

      I haven’t tried them but from what I understand, they’re similar to the Mooer pedals and pretty much clones of other pedlas. I know some of them get great reviews, which makes me want to try a few :)

  16. You should try out the phase 95, I own one and love it, it’s great because it gives you block and script 90 and 45 phases. There also coming out with a Dyna Comp mini that’s supposedly a script dyna comp (same size as the 95) with this new attack button that slows down and speeds up the effect.

  17. Greg from Cali says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    Regarding RT-20 and modulation pedal placement… I’m about to pick up a RT-20 to get those Animals-Pulse tones I’m after. I have read in some of your articles and comments that chorus needs to go *after* the delays, etc. Kind of like how he had it during the Wall tour, with the rotary speakers at the end of the signal chain. So in the effects loop for maximum Gilmourizing (hehe) what would the proper order be of delay, chorus, flanger and RT-20? My instincts tell me flanger – delay – chorus – RT-20.
    Happy New Year and best wishes from the USA. Keep up the great work with your band and this site!

    • Bjorn says:

      You should experiment and hear how the different placements effects your tone. To replicate David’s setup, although only in mono, your instincts are right. You might also want to have the chorus before the delays.

  18. Cameron says:

    Fantastic stuff as always, Bjorn! Any chance of a review of the new CE-2w??? I’m dead set on getting one for my own devices but curious how you feel about it for achieving Gilmour’s tones :)

    • Bjorn says:

      Thanks! Haven’t had the chance to try the CE-2W yet so I can’t really tell. Based on the reviews I’ve seen and heard, they’ve done a great job at replicating both the CE1 and CE2, with authentic tones.

  19. Troy says:

    The Phase 99 (now discontinued) is well worth investigating as a creative phasing tool. Truly inspiring compact unit for phase aficianados.

    Also: The above-mentioned forthcoming Mu-FX Phasor 2X is still undergoing pre-release design revisions & holds much promise as a creative 4 (& 6 – my preferred voice) stage phase shifting creative tool.

  20. Carlos says:

    Hello Bjorn,

    I hope this post finds you well and I am super excited to hear a new album next year. Question. I just saw the new MXR Phase 95 and I wanted to know how this compares to the MXR 1974 CS script reissue Phase 90. I know the small size is a plus for me, but it isn’t everything. Have a great day.

    Carlos Z.

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Carlos! Thanks for the support! I haven’t tried the new 95 yet so I can’t tell. If they’ve done an equally good job as the custom shop script 90 and 45 then I know I’m getting one :)

  21. Hi Bjorn!
    Any thoughts on the new MXR Phase 95 pedal?
    Thanks,
    Eric

    • Bjorn says:

      Haven’t tried it but the rveiews and clips sound promising. The 45 is a very underrated pedal I think and it’s cool that they’ve included that :)

  22. Didier Nolin says:

    Hello Bjorn, Have you tried the Phase 95? Is it a good option as it covers both phase 90 and 45 with or without script?

  23. tabasko says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    Thanks for your article, very interesting and helpful :)
    May I suggest that you test the EHX Neo Clone ? its definitely closer to the original Small Clone than the Nano one, some great tones come in(the “Come as you are” sound), despite, basic settings.

  24. Petiteours says:

    Hello Bjorn !
    I have a Deluxe Electric Mistress with internal power inside (+/- 18V) : I think It’s a V2 or V3)
    The Serial Number is : 1378038 and the Serial Number of the PCB is EH-5150-D
    But the Pedal is not a V3 Deluxe Electric Mistress Green : the pedal is normal grey with icehocky puck and main power input with internal transformer.
    My question is :
    I want to put a statut led on the pedal but I don’t find any electric scheme for this pedal with internal transformer
    Can someone help me please ?
    Thanking you in advance
    JB (from TOULOUSE / FRANCE)

  25. Troy says:

    For bass & its extended headroom demands an optical circuit phaser is the way to go, rather than J-FET based phasers which distort more easily (Maestro PS-1A Phase Shifter, MXR Phase 90).

    If you like the 4-stage Phase 90 sound then perhaps the 4/6/10 stage Maxon PH-350 Rotary Phaser (discontinued, so get used) might be appealing (very versatile too).

    The 10-stage (6 swept, 4 fixed) MXR Phase 100 (Maxon PH-350’s 10-stage mode is very much like this when regeneration is dialled in for positive feedback) would be suitable as well.

    Alternatively Mike Beigel’s forthcoming Mu-FX Phasor 2X (4 & 6 stage) looks very tasty.

    Another optical phaser worth investigating is Mike Both’s MuTron BiPhase clone, the (6-stage) Prophecysound PiPhase.

    Also: OTA circuit phasers like the Electro-Harmonix Small Stone distort less easily than J-FET’s.

  26. hi,

    what’s your opinion of the Danelectro Pepperoni phaser (assuming that you have tried it)? I just bought one, used a couple of days ago (I was borrowing my friend’s block logo Phase 90, and wanted a phaser for myself). So far, it seems to be ok. But, I haven’t put it through a real test quite yet.

    go easy on me, I’m just a bass player. anything with more than four strings scares me ha-ha!!

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Paul, I haven’t tried it but based on the reviews I’ve heard, it sounds pretty close to the Phase 90 :) In any case, trust your ears :)

      • I’ve been watching videos, comparing the block and script logo Phase 90 (as well as doing some comparisons, in person, too). I’m going to say that my Dano Pepperoni sounds closer to a script logo pedal.

        Now, all I have to do is get a Phase 95, and a Uni-Vibe, a Strat (I’ve been using my Les Paul, the past billion years)…oh yeah, and some talent.

  27. Brad says:

    Hey Bjorn, what are your thoughts on the Whirlwind Phaser? It’s supposed to be the closest pedal to the old Phase 90 as Whirlwind was founded by the original founder of MXR. I don’t have an old phase 90 to compare mine with but I had a newer phase 90 that it blew away.

  28. Adrian says:

    Hi Bjorn! Thanks a lot ! great site . what do you think about Moog Minifooger ? thx

  29. Pedro Vieira says:

    Hello Bjorn. As a small guitar player, but a big Gilmour’s fan, I’ve been following your precious information and it has been very usefull to me. So, thank you very much for it! Obrigado, Pedro

  30. Hi.
    I do not understand the setting description.
    Can anyone please help me?
    – Sondre

  31. Mirko says:

    hello , congratulations for this wonderful resource that is your site . have you ever tried the classic chorus of carl martin , what with the additional vibrato function ? It could be an interesting alternative . a greeting from Italy thanks .

  32. Nicholas Love says:

    Hello Bjorn, I wanted to let you and your readers know about the Moog Minifooger MF Flange. It’s hand built and uses analog bucket bridge circuitry. It has controls for positive and negative feedback so it is very versatile. I actually was able to match it almost exactly to your Mooer Eleclady settings by setting the feedback all the way off and the depth at about 70%. The only noticeable difference is that the Moog colors the EQ less, so you retain more bass and low mids than you will with the Mooer or a vintage Mistress but otherwise near indistinguishable. I’m not affiliated with them at all but I’ve been on the search for a quality Mistress style flanger and have had some reliability issues with the Mooer (had three warranty replacements in a year) and for added versatility the Moog’s Feedback controls allow you to easily dial in more MXR style flanging if that’s your thing.

  33. Matt K says:

    Hey Bjorn, what’s your thoughts on the TC Electronics Vortex Flanger for Gilmour tones?

    Thanks,

    Matt

    • Bjorn says:

      I don’t have much experience with it really. Couldn’t find any Mistress tones just by tweaking the pedal but I’m sure you can dial in something close with the Tone Print editor or find a patch that’s already available.

  34. Sam Reeves says:

    Bjorn,

    I just picked up a EH Deluxe Electric Mistress and it appears to be the Reissue V4 (1999) according to Ralf Metzger site. You mention this one as being a better and not as dark as the current reissue? Is the one I have one of the ones that are desirable for DG’s work? Thanks, Sam

    • Bjorn says:

      I’ve had a couple of the ’99s and they all sound brighter and more “liquidy” compared to the current Deluxe (big box and latest reissue).

  35. alex says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    Question about David’ use of modulation, do you mean he put them in the effect loop when you wrote this?

    “David Gilmour has always kept his amps clean and placed the modulation effects undistorted between the gain effects and the amps.”

    Or do you mean in the chain just after the gain pedals?

    Sorry maybe it’s a stupid question

    • Bjorn says:

      The amps has always been clean and he gets all his overdrive and distortion from pedals. This means that you can plug modulation and delay straight into the front end of the amp, which is what David does. All his effects are in chain into the front of the amp :)

  36. Hershel says:

    Thanks for the advice, Bjorn! I got a great price on a used boss RT-20 and it sounds great for his live 74 and WYWH rotary tones, especially for Any Colour you like and Shine on, but also is suited for his yamaha and PULSE doppola tones.
    As for the chorus, flanger and phaser, I am going to try the mooer series pedals, the e-lady, ensemble king and 90 orange to stick to a budget and be more travel-sized pedalboard-friendly, if the need arises, and I was wondering on your opinion on the mooer pedals?

    • Bjorn says:

      The Mooer stuff is great! I have an Ensemble King, ElecLady and Phase 90 myself and they sound really nice. Not all of the works though. The fuzz, delays and the more complex stuff doesn’t really do it but some of the overdrives and modulations are worth checking out.

  37. deniel pierrick says:

    hi bjorn- im just chiming in to say i love your site and look at it every day. i will be curious to see what you think of the boss ce2-waza, i hope it gets a review/blurb. cheers!

  38. Omar El Faro says:

    What would you do, buy Nux Mod Core, or Donner Alchemy, or buy dedicated cheap pedals for modulation like Joyo Analog Chrous, Phaser and Flanger? Which option would oyu recommend for a bedroom player? Thank’s a lot.

    • Bjorn says:

      I don’t have any experience with the Nux or Donner multi pedals, so I can’t really tell. I stringly recommend that you look into the Mooer and Joyo pedals though. I especially like the Mooer modulations, like the Phase 90, Ensemble King and ElecLady.

  39. Neil says:

    Hi

    If I wanted to have a ‘default’ setting for David’s tone on a Deluxe Electric Mistress XO – what would the settings be?

    Thanks

  40. Matthias says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    Could you help me with something?
    In which order would you put these 3 pedals: RT20, delay and reverb.
    I’m’hesitating between delay > RT20 > reverb or delay > reverb > RT20. In your opinion, what would be the more logical and effective chain signal?
    Thanks in advance,
    Matthias

    • Bjorn says:

      I prefer the RT20 first, as a regular modulation: RT20 > delay > reverb. But, to fully replicate David’s rotary setup, you would want the RT20 last: delay > reverb > RT20.

      • Matthias says:

        Thanks Bjorn,
        Last really? I would have thought his rotary speakers are then reverberated by the room/hall.

        • Bjorn says:

          Well, yes they are. If you want to use the reverb to replicate a room, then you might want that last but keep in mind that a revern pedal will never fully replicate the natural ambience in a room so what I always recommend, is that you use reverb with great care so that it doesn’t colour the tone too much. Read more about that in this feature. As you might know, David never uses reverb in a live setup but yes, a pedal can be used to compensate for some ambience.

      • Troy says:

        Wasn’t the only reverb used on PULSE guitar tones (& on any other DG tones) added post-production?

        The modulation before delay or delay before modulation dilemma can also often be resolved based on which pedals have mono or stereo inputs & outputs.

        Even if going mono most of the time it is nice to have the stereo capability ready to play with by just adding a few jack plugs rather than having to move & rewire several pedals.

        • Bjorn says:

          Well, I should have explained myself better. David never use reverb on stage. What you hear, is the ambience in the room and, if you listen to a live recording, probably some post production reverb either from ambience recording or added effects in the mix. I was referring to using pedals, which I consider to be a bit different. I would have placed the RT20 as a modulation, before delays but for David’s setup, you can either have the reverb last or the RT20 last, which is probably better. The most authentic approach would be to split the signal after the delays, use the RT20 for one amp and no reverb.

  41. Tony Samperi says:

    Hello everyone! What about the new Boss CE2-W?
    And the MXR EVH Phase 90?

    • Bjorn says:

      I haven’t tried the CE2-W yet but it looks promising. I like the fact that they’ve combined the CE1 and CE2. The EVH Phase 90 is a nice alternative for the classic Phase 90 tone. I might be mistaken, but as far as I know, it’s the same pedal as the script reissue with led.

      • Tony Samperi says:

        Yes, they say MXR EVH has the same circuit of the script reissue with led…But I didn’t have a chance to compare them, so I can only say it sounds pretty good to me!
        I think the same about the CE2-W, I never got a CE2, because it didn’t feel reliable to buy an old pedal..so I’ll get this one as soon as possible, even though the Ibanez CS9 is doing the job perfectly.
        I’ll let you knoww!

        • Troy says:

          Your post got me typing in Ibanez CS9 in a search engine. Schnobel (the guy who does endless – albeit very sonically revealing – delay comparison videos) has a video on YT comparing the two.

          One commenter pointed out that Ibanez’s most renown guitars were humbucker equipped & that Maxon (who made the Ibanez pedals) were likely aiming to make them work well with those. The CS9 does have a brighter tone than the CE-2. Regardless – the latter does sound nicer with the single coils used in the video.

          Either that or I am so used to the sound of my CE-2 that I got (used) in ’94 (& before that an analogue Boss CH-1 that I had in the early 90’s) that the brighter CS9 (which also sounds like it has a different waveform for the LFO sweep) just sounds less welcoming.

          With the CE-2W you can have the more mids-enhanced CE-2 tones as well as the brighter CE-1 (chorus & vibrato) & CS9 chorus tones.

          • Tony Samperi says:

            You’re right. CS9 is brighter. I decided to buy it, because I watched the comparisons by Shnobel: “CS2 vs CS9″ and “CS2 vs CS9,Joyo,MXR”.
            Next pedal I need altough is the JHS modded RAT2, so I’ll wait september to get the CE-2W.
            I recently got a Vick Audio Overdriver and a Boss HM-2. I’ll make a review soon.
            Cheers.

  42. Paul Kantor says:

    Any opinion on the MXR Custom Shop Script Phase 90? That one is supposed to have similar tone. It also has an LED and a 9V power input.

    • Bjorn says:

      It’s the same sound as the ’74 but with a bit more top end, as it has true bypass and the ’74 only hardwire.

  43. Troy says:

    I picked one up over a year ago & have no regrets – especially seeing as it’s now discontinued. If you like experimenting with modulation then the dual-phaser Phase 99 packs a lot of (tasty) phasing possibilities into its compact orange case.

    When activated – even in single phaser mode only – there is a volume boost which may or may not be above what you are comfortable with – which would only matter in a gigging situation but might actually be useful there.

    Have had a few phasers over time:

    Let go of:

    * DeArmond Model 1900 Pedal Phaser (near skateboard-sized 4-stage JFET phaser),
    * Boss PH-2 Super Phaser (10 & 12 stage phaser – not missed),
    * MXR Phase 100 (vintage block 10-stage optical phaser).

    Still have:

    * EH Small Stone (vintage 4-stage OTA phaser – need the Analogman volume drop elimination mod done on this),
    * Maestro PS1-A (awesome 6-stage JFET phase unit, too big for a well-stocked pedalboard though),
    * Carl Martin Two Faze (PS1-A type circuit – phenomenal sound),
    * Heptode Virtuoso (another PS1-A type circuit – with original type speed controls for accelerating & decelerating),
    * Maxon PH-350 Rotary Phaser (4, 6 & 10 stage optical phasing – for many this could be the phasing one-stop shop),
    * Prophecysound PiPhase Mk I (the PiPhase is a more compact clone of the fabled MuTron BiPhase dual/stereo 6-stage optical phaser),
    * Prophecysound PiPhase Mk II (x 2 – BTW: These things with an expression pedal – for foot control of LFO speed or manual phase sweeping – such as one of the Mission range [e.g. SP-2R] are insane, Big Muff fuzz though one of these has to be heard to be believed – maybe more Michael Hampton [Funkadelic] than DG but you can dial in more subtle tones that could sub for those as well).

    Will get an Effectrode Phaseomatic Deluxe when the revamped model comes out.

    If you love phasers (as I clearly do, first effect that I ever bought was the [second hand] DeArmond) then I’d grab the Phase 99 if one turns up at a good price.

    Bjorn has stated before the hand-wired MXR Phase 90 script reissue or the Whirlwind Orange Box Phaser will get you that much closer to original script-era Phase 90’s for Gilmourish tones (among others) then any other current MXR Phase 90 variant. I just like great sounding phasers & this Phase 99 is definitely tasty. If you have two amps (or two amp heads & a splittable left/right speaker cabinet – or two cabinets for that matter) then that is obviously the way to get the best out of stereo output phasers like the 99. I suspect it’s inspiration may have been Steely Dan’s Donald Fagen who apparently feeds his Fender Rhodes into a splitter box & then into two Phase 90’s set to different speeds.

    Please mention it here as a reply if you get one along with your thoughts as there are very few mentions of the Phase 99 by users online & it’s always interesting reading fellow guitarists impressions on gear that one also has (Gilmourish being a stellar case of this).

  44. Neil Brydges says:

    Hi

    Have you tried the MXR Phase 99 – two Phase 90s in a box? If so, what are your thoughts, in particular on the vintage mode compared to a 74 reissue phase 90.

    Thanks

    • Bjorn says:

      Yeah… Um, it sounded nice but I honestly didn’t see the point of it. Nothing that I liked anyway. The phaser it self, sounded nice though and close to the classic Phase 90.

  45. Emi says:

    Hi again Bjorn! excellent 2016’s updates! the site is getting better and better!
    Have a question, which one do you prefer? Boss CE-2 Chorus (Taiwan) or Mxr Analog Chorus M234??

    • Bjorn says:

      Two different pedals. The MXR is probably closer to the Boss CE5, which has a slightly brighter tone, less mids and a more noticeable swirl. It also got a few extra controls. The CE2 is more subtle but then again, you can’t tweak it as much.

      • Emi says:

        If you have to choose between:
        -Boss CE-2 Chorus (Japan)
        -Boss CE-2 Chorus (Taiwan)
        -Mxr Analog Chorus M234
        ..which one do you prefer?

        • Bjorn says:

          One of the CE2s. There’s a lot of talk about the Japanese VS the Taiwan model, but unless you do a A/B test, you can’t hear a difference. Perhaps the Japanese is a tad smoother, with less mids, but it’s down to nuanses.

          • Troy says:

            Less headroom on the Taiwan CE-2.

            • Emi says:

              Thanks for the answer Bjorn and Troy. I’ll get the Boss CE-2 Chorus (Japan), it’s black label one.

              • Troy says:

                I have a CE-2 Japan seliver screw first batch (serial number is all zeroes). Love it. Love my Diamond Halo Chorus even more – with mix control, trim pot for delay time, expression/CV control of speed, stereo ins & outs & optional 2-stage phasing. Same BBD chip as CE-2.

  46. Nick Love says:

    Hello Bjorn! I’m looking for a different rotary sound then what I’m currently getting with my RT-20. I find that when I run the RT-20 and other modulation pedals in tandem it gets too muddled. I’m thinking of either adding a Motion Sound Pro 3x which is a rotary head head that you can attach to an existing amp and uses your existing amp as a bass rotary sim while the horn actually spins on top like a real leslie, or running a stereo setup and running the RT-20 out to a Roland JC 120 into the stereo effects return loop so I can ‘bounce’ the rotary effect back and forth between it’s two indenpendant speakers and just setting that amp lower in the mix than my main rig. Have any experience or recommendations on what might get me a better sound? Thanks!

    • Bjorn says:

      Running a stereo setup would produce the most accurate tone, in terms of recreating David’s setup. That way you can also blend the rotary in a more natural fashion. I haven’t tried the Motion Sound, so I can’t really tell how it sounds. Based on the reviews I’ve heard, it does the Leslie thing pretty well, but David’s old Yamaha and Doppola speakers, sounds a bit different. More chorusy, with less of that tremolo character.

      • Troy says:

        The latter setup (“running the RT-20 out to a Roland JC 120 into the stereo effects return loop”) has one issue that is worth pointing out:

        You would be bypassing the JC120’s tone stack in the preamp by effectively (no pun intended, honest!) plugging the RT-20 straight into the preamp.

        Now if you are setting the RT-20’s mix control to full then that might not be a problem if you are adding the JC-120 as a second amp to one that hasn’t got any signal from the RT-20.

        It could likely get harsh in the top end if mixing in some of the dry signal on the RT-20 & sending it straight to the JC120’s power amp.

  47. Adam says:

    Hello Bjorn, I’m looking to buy a phaser to produce those classic WYWH Phase 90 tones. I’m also hoping it will double as a Uni-Vibe for the DSOTM tones. I’ve decided that I don’t want a battery only one, so I’ve got it narrowed down to the Maxon Phase Tone, Mooer Orange Ninety, and the Phase 90 Script with the LED. Which would you recommend?

    • Bjorn says:

      You could pretty much go with any of these but I think I’d go for the MXR :) Sounds a tad darker and more UniVibe-ish than the other two :)

      • Adam says:

        Thanks! I forgot to say that I play a Blues Junior, but considering that’s a pretty bright amp, I’m sure the dark-ish pedal as you say shall go nicely with it. Also, that Phase 90 Script is the CSP101SL, right? I’ve seen some stores list it as CSP101CL, but I think that may just be a typo. Do you know if those are two different pedals?

        • Bjorn says:

          I think that’s two different pedals. They did an upgrade on the script not long ago, so maybe that’s it. Do a search and you’ll figure it out :)

  48. Ben Ferwerda says:

    Hey Bjorn!

    I was listening to Obscured by Clouds yesterday. On the track Stay, right around the 2:37 minute mark leading into the solo, it sounds like David is using the same modulation from Any Color You Like. Could it be the EMS Hi-Fli? Looks like the dates match up pretty well but I didn’t know if there was any documented evidence that David had the Hi-Fli during the Obscured by Clouds recordings.

    P.S. I saw your suggestion to Steve about the Mega pedal and I think the Gilmourish community really needs to push for that to happen :) Oh and super excited for Disconnected!

    Thanks Bjorn!

    • Bjorn says:

      Thanks Ben! It could be a wah toggled very fast… he does use one for the solo. But yeah, it could be a filter on the Hi-Fli. He certainly owned it during the sessions.

  49. Mateusz says:

    I know that this isn’t “gilmourish” pedal at all but what about Tremolo? Do you have any experience with that kind of modulation? I’m looking for some nice tremolo and maybe you could help me a little ;-)

    • Bjorn says:

      I haven’t used tremolo that much really but it’s obviously a classic effect and one you can do some really cool things with. I prefer the opitical tremolos for a slightly warmer and smoother wave. Obviously, it’s hard to beat Strymon’s Flint but check out the Voodoo Lab Tremolo and Wampler Lattitude… among others.

      • Nikke says:

        Replying to an old post and this is indeed not the most Gilmourish topic, but in case someone is looking for a tremolo, I wanted to add the Mooer Trelicopter to the list of recommendations. I just got one and really enjoy it. It’s an optical tremolo and it is really cheap. I never thought tremolo would be my thing, but it’s surprisingly satisfying to play.

        The guys from That Pedal Show (who mentioned Gilmourish in a recent episode – they seemed to think it was done by more than one person, which is an understandable mistake!) like it a lot. In the Joey Landreth episode Joey played one paired with a compressor and a delay and it was such an amazing tone! Definitely worth checking out, if nothing else just to see Dan’s and Mick’s reaction. The bit starts at around 51 minutes:

  50. Patrick Lester says:

    Hi, Bjorn, I was wondering if you ever tried the Blackstar ht-modulation pedal? And would it provide some Gilmour tones.

  51. Jonathan Thomas says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    Wondering what your reasoning was behind giving a CE-2 a 9/10 and the Costalab a 10/10? Only thing I can put my finger on is where you say “rising costs” of finding a a CE-2. That may well be true, but the Costalab Chorus is 180 euro, and I’m not sure the CE-2’s are that expensive, at least not in my experience.

    Just wanted your take on it, is it a tone thing?

    Many thanks
    Jonathan

    • Bjorn says:

      Yes, it’s a tone thing. Price don’t really matter in these guides. The CE2 has more mid range, making it darker, and I don’t like the Boss buffers. The CostaLab is smoother sounding, a flatter EQ and it has an effect level, allowing you to dial in the amount of effect you need. To my ears, and these guides are highly subjective, the CostaLab sounds better :)

      • Jonathan Thomas says:

        Thanks Bjorn, that’s great. Second question…in order to nail the tones on PULSE, would you use a chorus or a rotary pedal? I’m guessing you don’t need both?

        I have my eye on the Neo Instruments Ventilator 2, that has a Mix control. But wouldn’t want that if you thought the CE-2 would do a good enough job on its own. What are your thoughts? I’ve noticed that you rarely use chorus and opt to use the RT-20 for most demos. Again, many thank for your time. Jonathan

        • Bjorn says:

          I’ve never been too fan of chorus. It sounds dated to me but David did use one during the 80s and 90s. The RT20 is very good at replicating David’s Yamaha and Doppola rotary tones. Other rotary units, like the Lex and Ventilator are better at doing a real Leslie tone, but that’s not quite what you want. The tone is more chorusy than that so personally I’d go with the RT20.

  52. Sebastiano says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    Thanks, I will skip for the moment the RT20 it takes to room on my tight pedalboards.
    Anyway, based on Gandks tone what I can replace in my pedalboards (In your opionion) to improve my sound or what I can add? I remind you my equipment:

    Stratocaster MIM (Pickups FAT50-CS69-SSL5)

    TC Polytune Mini – Boss CS2 – Skreddy p19 – Wampler Plexidrive – Mooer Black secret – Microvibe Vooodo – Choruslab – ElecLady – TC flashback – Laney Cub 12R Combo.

    I have some money to spend for funny and I’d like to improve my equipments. Can you give me some options.
    Thanks a lot in advance
    Ciao
    Sebastiano

    • Bjorn says:

      Your setup looks great and you should be able to dial some nice Gdansk tones :) I can’t really see anything that needs to be changed. If you’re really keen on spending some money, then you might want to consider the Buffalo Evolution for those Cornish G2 tones, which David used a lot on the 2006 tour .:)

  53. Richard McEntee says:

    Hi Bjorn – a question about the rt-20, some/most of your videos featuring this pedal state it is added “in the mix” – exactly how is this accomplished ? Do you record dry/mic-ed into your PC/desk, then afterwards play out through the rt-20 and back to the PC ? Thankyou as ever :) Richard

    • Bjorn says:

      When it says RT20, it’s always placed in the chain, after the gain pedals. When it says rotary added in mix, I’m using a Leslie sim plug-in, which is sent to a bus track and mixed behind the guitar.

      • Richard McEntee says:

        Many thanks for clearing that up Bjorn – I had all sorts of visions about wacky patching going on :)

  54. Thomas Hagemeijer says:

    hey Bjorn, thanks for the helpful post. Still, I’m wondering which you’d recommend the most. The EHX Deluxe Electric Mistress V5 or the Mooer Eleclady, since I recently found that electric mistress on a dutch variant of ebay for a decent price. Thanks in advance.

    • Bjorn says:

      The Mooer. No doubt.

      • Bryan R says:

        I would love a video guide / review with settings on the Moore Eleclady. Such small knobs make it a nightmare to dial in, and it just doesn’t give me that Wall Live solo tone when used with my P19 or Vick 73 Ram’s head. I have it last in my chain after all the Muffs and delays. If you need the full chain, I can type it out.

        • Bjorn says:

          I’d place it after the gain pedals and before the delays. Try these settings: colour just a hair above 9:00, range off and the rate 2:30.

  55. Troy says:

    The one with the LED actually has the EVH model’s circuit board in it without the switchable option for the later 70’s”block” model sound. It’s set to the early-mid 70’s “script” model sound which is not as accurate as the non-LED model. Either getting a true bypass mod done to the non-LED model or getting a Whirlwind Orange Box Phaser (which bizarrely doesn’t come in an orange box!) which is made by one of the MXR founders would be the best bet.

  56. Adam says:

    Hi Bjorn, thanks so much for all you work. The site is great.

    But anyway I’d like to ask is there a sound difference between this Dunlop MXR Phase 90 Script without the LED (https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B0017002U0/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?qid=1458932110&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=mxr+phase+90&dpPl=1&dpID=41MXbA24kwL&ref=plSrch) and this Dunlop MXR Phase 90 Script with the LED? (https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B0016BFBO2/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?qid=1458932110&sr=8-2&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=mxr+phase+90&dpPl=1&dpID=41NMrbA8x7L&ref=plSrch)

    Obviously one has an LED, but what I mean is that are they the same other than that? If not, which one would you recommend for Gilmour’s tones?

    • Bjorn says:

      The one with the led has, a led, and true bypass switching (the latest version of this does, the first didn’t). The 74 reissue is a true clone of the original, without a led and hardwire bypass, which means that the signal pass through the circuitry and you will experience a tad more noise and high end loss.

      • Adam says:

        Thanks for your reply. Also, if you don’t mind me asking, what’s the difference between that script with the LED and the regular block phase 90?

        • Bjorn says:

          Tonewise, the block sounds brighter, has a slightly higher output, which can make it distort and it’s less smooth or vintage sounding. Sounds nice but a slightly different pedal compared to the script.

  57. **SEBASTIANO** says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    I need your advice please, my equipment is as follows (based on Gandks tone):

    Stratocaster MIM (Pickups FAT50-CS69-SSL5)

    TC Polytune Mini – Boss CS2 – Skreddy p19 – Wampler Plexidrive – Mooer Black secret – Microvibe Vooodo – Choruslab – ElecLady – TC flashback – Laney Cub 12R Combo.

    Many as these pedals, as you can easy see have been selected based on your reviews/opinions.
    I am thinking if it is the case or not to buy a Rotary effect. But there is not enough room in my pedalbox for BOSS RT20. Do you think it worth to add a rotary in my my chain and if yes can you also suggest a smaller rotary?

    Thanks a lot
    Ciao
    Sebastiano

    • Bjorn says:

      I assume you want a rotary to replicate David’s Hiwatt+rotary setup and I really don’t think there are any other pedal out there that quite does that as good as the RT20. What I’ve always said, is that it sounds like a shitty rotary sim but an awesome chorus and that’s really what you want. That thick, fat chorus blended in with your main tone. A conventional chorus can’t do that and a better sounding and more authentic rotary sim, like the Lex or Ventilator, doesn’t sound right for David’s tones.

      • Troy says:

        The updated Ventilator II (which I have) has a dry blend – a feature that one would never suspect from the manufacturer’s low-info website. It also has stereo ins (as well as outs obviously) which is nice for feeding a chorus with its own dry blend to one side & a completely dry signal to the other into it.

        I use a Diamond Halo Chorus for this – same chip as the Japanese Boss CE-2’s (have a silver screw version of that w/ serial number made entirely of all zeros, indicating the first batch) – which is the only chorus that I have ever come across that allows this.

        If you have two heads & a 4×12 cab that allows for a stereo split to the left & right sides then sending a Muff of choice (with optional compressor before it) through a BK Butler Tube Driver then on into a stereo delay like one from the TC Flashback series on a 2290 setting (using the Flashback Triple Delay for this) on to the Halo Chorus then onto the Neo Ventilator II into the heads is pretty tasty way to enter the PULSE tone zone! :D

        • Bjorn says:

          Yes, I forgot about the new version. Ideally though, as it’s a pretty close Leslie sim, it would be best for David’s 1972-75 tones, when he blended the Hiwatts with Leslies. You’ll get more of that deep tremolo and woody tone. The RT20 is, in my opinion, better for the late 70s Yamaha and Pulse’s Doppolas, which both had a more chorusy tone.

          • Troy says:

            Never tried the RT20, Your comments on its adverse affect on the bypass tone put the quash on it for me, It would be interesting – for any of us – to contrast it with the Neo Ventilator II dialled in with a fair amount of dry blend. Anyone been able to do this? (The NV II is a pricey item, so maybe unlikely), It’s certainly one of the nicest modulations that I’ve played through, when mixed in with dry signal with the pedal’s blend.

            The new Foxrox Paradox TZF2 Through-Zero Flanger can get a ton of modulation tones but does take some getting to know the pedal to be able to dial these in. I’ve got a great variety of flange tones (both positive & negative mixing) out of it, plus vibrato, chorus & rotary tones – among others (it can hint at doing phaser & Univibe tones).

            My Hartman, MXR & Boss BF-2 have some nice sounds between them, but this TZF2 (& its predecessor, which is a bit large for taking out) is really quite special & is certainly not a Through-Zero Flanging “one-trick pony”.

            That could be for many the only analogue modulation pedal that they need. One of those, a Foxrox AquaVibe & a Prophecysound Pi-Phase covers my modulation needs on a semi-portable board that I take out for recording purposes.

  58. Gordon Norman says:

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  59. Eugene Erdozain says:

    Very helpful. I have a MXR Phase 90 block model that I have had for some years that needs to be repaired or replaced and there is lots of great info here. I do tend to use mine in front of a driven amp.

  60. Kris says:

    Bjorn,

    I’ve been messing with my set up lately practicing coming back to life. Running two hi-tone 50’s in stereo. Currently signal runs from strat>boss CS-2>Buffalo FX TD-X>boss CE-2>TC Nova Delay stereo out into stereo in of Boss RT-20 > stereo out into Lehle mini dual > stereo out to each amp. Is there a better sounding (pedal order etc) to do this using my pedals, seems like there would be a more accurate sound just not sure how to do it. Thanks!

    • Bjorn says:

      Better sounding than what? Which pedal are you referring to?

      • Kris says:

        Hi Bjorn, I’m referring to my placement of my boss ce-2 and boss RT-20 in my signal chain. I’ve read your rotating speaker and RT-20 articles. Not sure if my pedal order and stereo set up is as optimal as it could be for creating David’s liquid chorus tone on division bell etc. For example, in coming back to life I’m using both the CE-2 and Boss RT-20 together in my chain as described above with the Boss RT-20 going out in stereo to each amp. Not sure if it would sound better/more accurate if I put either the CE-2 or RT-20 between the lehle and a amp, the CE-2 between the lehle and one amp and the RT-20 between the lehle and one amp, leave it like I have it etc. Not sure if I make sense :)

        • Bjorn says:

          Ok, if you want do replicate David’s setup as accurately as possible, then you might want to consider using one amp as a leslie sim. It would be like David’s PULSE setup, with one Hiwatt and one Doppola. Nothing wrong with your setup as it is now but you could try running all the pedals into a splitter, an run one into a one of the amps and the other, with the RT20 after the split, into the second amp. You can also try placing the chorus in the “dry” line to the first amp.

  61. Emre Gündüz says:

    Hello Björn,
    This is a great site you have made. I was wondering if you have had any experience with the Joyo phaser. And if so, what is your opinion?
    Thank you!

  62. Rick says:

    Hi again Bjorn.
    Could I pick your brain with a dilemma I have please.
    I have seen a dirt cheap Ross R88 chorus pedal in a shop near to me(virtually identical to a Boss ce-2)and was wondering would it be worth buying as I currently have a 1978 v2 deluxe mistress and was thinking will the Ross add any different tones that the mistress doesn’t have or do you think they are too similar to have both pedals on my board.
    Thanks as always
    Rick.

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Rick. The Mistress is a flanger, while the Ross (or Boss) is a chorus. They’re both based on the same principle or circuit but they sound very different from each other. The Mistress, as you know, has that liquidy swirl and a fairly dominating effect. A chorus is much more subtle, with much less of that jet, metallic swirl. Depending on how much you like your modulation, I’d get both :)

  63. Tiago Oliveira says:

    Hey Bjorn! Have you checked the new Leslie simulator by electro harmonix? The Lester G… I think that will be some game changer mate… You would be the perfect person to make a review on it!

  64. Tom A. says:

    Hey Bjorn, hope you’re doing great!
    I have a question about Have a Cigar tone.. the rythm guitar sounds with a lot of “quack” does that come from the fact that he’s using the MXR Phase 90 or could it be he was using the middle and bridge pickups together? (I’ve had a telecaster and currently have a Es 335 clone so no much experience with stratocasters at all…)
    Thanks for continuing with this site, it’s really helpful
    Best regards from Chile

    • Bjorn says:

      He recorded that with a Telecaster into a Hiwatt, probably using the Colorsound Powerboost and a Phase 90. It’s that combo, between the twangy Tele, the mid range oriented and clean Hiwatt, the crisp attack from the Powerboost and the swoshy phase shifting from the Phase 90 that makes up that tone. Hard to tell exactly how you should set it up because it’s all about finding the sweetspot. However, a Tele, clean amp, a bit of overdrive and phaser should get you close.

      • Tom A. says:

        OMFG I really had no idea that tone could be achieved with a tele, I thought he used the tele just for Animals and early Pink Floyd, you learn something new every day, now I need a phaser ASAP
        Thanks for the fast reply, hope you’re doing great!
        Best Regards

  65. Bill says:

    Hi Bjorn. I am curious if you have ever played the A/DA flanger…and if so, how you think it compares to the Electric Mistress.

    Thanks!

  66. ratan says:

    I am using Solid State Amp for bedroom setup. I have got RAT distortion, BD-2 overdrive and TC electronics Flashback delay. Which will be next essential and important pedal I should consider among all modulation pedals: Chorus, Phaser, Flanger, Uni-vibe ?
    which will be most versatile?

    • Bjorn says:

      Depends on what tones you want. I assume you want to cover Gilmours tones but what era? Chorus is the most subtle and perhaps not essential. Flanger is a must for the Animals-Final Cut era, while UniVibe and Phaser is essential for the Dark Side and WYWH era. You can easily use a phaser to replicate a UniVibe, so I guess its down to either a flanger or phaser.

  67. Giovanni says:

    Hi Bjorn! What do you think of the EH Deluxe Electric Mistress XO version? In what it differs from the current Deluxe Electric Mistress big box version? In your opinion, the XO version could nail David’s flanger tones from Animals, The Wall and The Final Cut?
    Thanks :)

    • Bjorn says:

      I haven’t played it enough to give you a full description but it sounds very close to the current Deluxe – a bit dark, with a lot of mid range. Perhaps a bit more chorusy than the Deluxe. You should be able to nail the tones but I would rather go for the Mooer ElecLady.

  68. Ardavan says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    I really love your tone in the Pink Floyd “SORROW JAMMING” in your website.Your playing is superb and you nailed David Gilmours Sorrow tone.
    You are using the Boss CE-2 Chorus pedal in your pedal chain in this video.
    What are your CE-2 settings?

    Also in your Boss RT-20 Rotary review you mention that it has a mix knob control that allows you to blend in as much dry signal as you need for either smoothening out. I don’t see any mix knob control on the pedal. Which knob do you mean?

    Once again thank you so much for your fantastic website and for sharing all those great experience and knowledge of yours.

    All the best
    Ardavan

    • Bjorn says:

      Thanks for your kind words! I usually set the depth to 10:00 and the rate to 12:00. It may have been a bit different for this clip but I think that’s pretty accurate. The RT20 has “effect” and “direct” control, which allow you to dial in the amount of effect that you need.

  69. Peter says:

    Bjorn! I was thinking of buying a flanger and since Hartman went out of business I was thinking of getting a real 70s mistress. What do you think? are there proper clones like the Hartman?

    • Bjorn says:

      There are a couple of clones out there, small scale production. I haven’t tried them so I can’t tell. The problem with cloning the Mistress is that the SAD1024 chip is hard to come by and it’s essential for that tone. The Mooer ElecLady, although closer to the Deluxe, is the best alternative out there unless you want to go for a vintage Mistress or a used Hartman.

  70. Tal says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    I have Boss CE-2B which i modded to sound like the CE-2. (By changing one cap).
    Two days ago I bought the Mooer Eleclady and it is sound exactly like
    the boss my modded CE-2 (the boss is just a little warmer).

    • Bjorn says:

      But the CE is a subtle chorus and the ElecLady a fairly dominating flanger… Did you mod it to make it sound like a flanger?

      • Troy says:

        That would be a pretty cool trick! Actually on second thoughts it might make my CE-2 sound like my BF-2 rather than my Harman Flanger … :D

  71. Adi Corrales says:

    Hi everybody… I’ve a question: I love phasers and flangers, to give dimension to my tone. I use them after the gain stomps, because I mostly use digital modulations (Line 6 M13 and Zoom MS-50G) and in my setup i’ts hard to put them before. Some models have a mix / Blend control, but some others doesn’t, and the analog one that I have (custom one, I think is not a clone) also has not a blend control. I wonder, How do you do to control the mix between dry/wet, to avoid the effect to be so dominant? I have tried by setting different depth or rate, but I’ts pretty hard to me to get the balance on the amount of the effect between my clean and dirty tone. After a lot of tweaking and testing various models, I can get the tone I want, but It’s a mystery to me how can you do that with, say a Phase 90, with only the rate control (no mix, no blend, no tone, no nothing!).

    • Bjorn says:

      Well, there’s no way to control the mix of the effect. It’s either on or not. I prefer to have phasers in front of gain effects. That way it blends better. Chorus and flangers sound best after the gain effects. There are lots of modulation pedals out there with a mix control. Check out the Mooer Ensemble King (Boss CE2) and the TC Electronics Helix :) Both are great sounding pedals.

  72. Arya Boustani says:

    Hi Bjorn, I like to save money and buy needed modulations in my setup. I have MIJ Boss CE-2 (silver screw) chorus pedal which I use with my muff sound. I like to invest on Flanger, phaser, and rotary speaker simulator. If you would set a priority list for modulation needed for Gilmour tones, what would it be? What is needed most and something that I can’t achieve with Boss CE-2. It sees DG did a lot of older stuff that he used flanger and phaser with Boss CE-2 in his live performance at some point. I try to buy something if I get a different sound. Thanks a lot.

    • Bjorn says:

      Sorry for my very late reply. Depends on what tones you want to cover and how authentic you want to sound.
      UniVibe 1972-73
      Phaser 1974-75
      Flanger 1977-83
      Chorus 1981-2002
      I would say that a chorus is the most subtle and therefore perhaps not a must. A UniVibe is limited, as you can’t use it to simulate any of the others. A phaser can easily do a UniVibe, so you got both Dark Side and WYWH covered. A flanger is a must for the Animals-Final Cut era.

  73. Giovanni says:

    Hi Bjorn! I’d really have liked to buy the Hartman Analog Flanger but it’s pretty impossible to find here in Italy…
    So, have you ever tried what the T-Rex Twister 2 Chorus/Flanger? What do you think about it? If it sounds good (I’m going to try one in a few weeks) I’ll certainly buy it, also for the fact it is like 2 pedal in one! For me it would be perfect since I never use flanger and chorus at the same time!

    • Bjorn says:

      Never tried it…

      • Giovanni says:

        It doesn’t matter :)
        When I try it, I’ll tell you how it is :)

        • Sebastian says:

          The T-Rex Twister 2 sounds really good if powered at 12 V, and really outstanding if operated in stereo mode at 12 V. Chorus is great but the Flanger is outstanding.

          However, if powered at 9V it feels like a completely different pedal, feels flat and lacks any liveliness.

          So, if you try it, I really recommend powering it at 12 V. It is designed to operate at this voltage.

  74. Troy says:

    Sad times: Theo Hartman has quit the pedals business:

    http://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/what-happened-to-hartman-pedals.1585788/

    My early model Hartman Flanger with the Reticon SAD 1024 (non-“Deluxe” Electric Mistress flanger clone) is probably my favourite modulation box either for clean or post-distortion tones. These early versions also look as sumptuous as they sound.

    Worth checking the first half dozen clips at Youtube for those interested in hearing it:

    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=hartman+flanger

    Hers’s the December 19 2014 Archive websave of his site showing a dozen of his pedals:

    http://web.archive.org/web/20141219191521/http://www.hartmanpedals.com/

    Best wishes to Theo. It would be nice to see him make a comeback sometime. Unlikely though that might be in the now highly populated & very competitive business of pedal-building.

    This is the first occurrence of this with any of the companies making the pedals that I use (not counting ones who shut shop before I started using them).

  75. Tony says:

    I strumbled into the “Boss RT-20″ thing…I like your sounds very much..I don’t understand: do you choose the RT-20 over the Boss CE-2? Do you mean to use both them to achieve PULSE tones?

    • Bjorn says:

      Both yes and know… The RT20 is a rotary simularion, while the CE2 is a chorus. I often use the RT20 as a chorus, which means that I dial in a very subtle modulation. If you want to recreate David’s Pulse tones then you should really use both, as he used chorus and rotary on that tour.

  76. Andrea says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    have you ever tried this one here?
    http://www.studio1525.com/store/images/00000073_2.jpg
    If so, what’s your opinion about it?
    Thanks!

  77. Ben Ferwerda says:

    Hey Bjorn! On Sheep David does a cool lick right around the 5:14 mark. Is there any modulation in that tone? It kinda sounds like maybe vibe or the Yamaha’s but my ears are not properly trained to identify such things.

    • Bjorn says:

      Most of that song was recorded with a Telecaster and a split between the Hiwatts and Yamaha. I’m also assuming he used the Colorsound Powerbooster for overdrive… which was his main overdrive unit for that period.

  78. Lorenzo says:

    HI Bjorn,
    having some money I have bought the original Electric Mistress. Mine comes with the volume mod so the sound is perfectly balanced when it is on; however coupled with the Powerbooster I could hear some weird cyclical noise in the background. Then I’ve come across to your recommendations to use it after gains and voilà, now it is dead silent. I feel sooo lucky. Thanks for inspiration (as usual).

  79. Cgreene says:

    Hi Bjorn, what do you think of the 2015 green and black deluxe electric mistress?

  80. Ahuei says:

    hi, Bjorn. the EHX bad stone reissue seems nice.

  81. Nathan says:

    Hello Bjorn I recently was offered to trade away a boss oc3 super octave I wasn’t using for a boss bf3 flanger (could actualy be the bf2 but likely the bf3) and I was unsure wether to do the trade, or risk trying to sell it and put the money towards an EHX or Mooer flanger, but possibly having him walk away on it and having to wait another while to get rid of it. I have tried one (boss flanger) before but only briefly and youtube videos aren’t much help. Any ideas on wether its a good deal or if it would be better to get a mooer or ehx flanger? All considering I would use it for a general flange and less as a gilmour style flange.

    • Bjorn says:

      Well, the OC3 and BF3 are, as you are aware, two very different pedals but if you’re asking about the flanger, then I my fan of that pedal personally. I think the Mooer is a far better Gilmourish flanger… and flanger in general.

  82. Roger Sartori says:

    I have a Mooer Eleclady but I guess it came with some issues… I just can’t use the colour control at full position: a horrible noise that sounds like a female scream from a Hitchcock movie and it’s impossible to play anything.

  83. Eric Nyberg says:

    Hey Bjorn, Have a great time at the Royal Albert Hall. Something you should look into and I’m surprised to not see it here is the Moog Cluster Flux. I have one on order and I can’t wait for it. Have you ever played through one?

  84. George says:

    Hi Bjorn. Youve given a pick to the Boss RT20 rotary, and ive noticed you use it a LOT, and it comes up in a lot of videos, but we cant see the settings or how you get it to make its magic. Could you please make a video on the RT20 ? Thanks :)

  85. Emilio Melo says:

    Dear Bjorn, Please which Tremolo pedal would you recommend? How can we be the closest Money tremolo sound?
    Best regards!

  86. Clay Jenkins says:

    Have you tried the new deluxe electric mistress xo ?

  87. Bern says:

    Bjorn, have you ever tried the Empress Phaser, and if so, any thoughts on it?

  88. Tony says:

    HI Bjorn,

    Of all the Mistress models and clones, which works best with the Big Muff to nail Wall/Final Cuts tones while preserving all the Muff’s tonal properties in your opinion? I had a Mooer Elec Lady at one point but could not get it to work well with the Muff as it seemed to choke the tone, especially the top end bite. Perhaps I didn’t give it enough of a chance, but I really could not get it work for those Wall/Final Cut studio tones no matter where I set it.

    Thank you,
    Tony

    • Bjorn says:

      I think the Mooer works well for those tones but for authenticity you might want to check out the Hartman Analog Flanger, which is a clone of the original Mistress.

  89. joao bicudo says:

    Hello Bjorn!
    I have a silly question!

    I recent bought a Boss RT-20 and I would like to know if I can power it in a daisy chain?

    Cheers
    Joao Bicudo

    • Bjorn says:

      Yes you can but those big Boss pedals tend to get noisy when you chain them, so use a separate adapter or line on your power feeder.

  90. joao bicudo says:

    Hello Bjorn!

    Where do you think is the better place to use the Ehx Small Stone nano? After or before distortions?

    If it is after, do you recommend a “special” place to be like, before chorous or flanger or after this 2 pedals?

    Thanks for your time!

    Cheers,
    Joao bicudo

    • Bjorn says:

      I prefer phasers and UniVibes in front of gain pedals and chorus and flanger after. Sounds more natural that way. To me, anyway :)

  91. jaden porter says:

    heya bjorn im about to build up my pedaltrain, i only have a zendrive and dynacomp and im looking to add some new pedals but really looking to score with the first one, im looking into adding a modulation pedal to smooth out the overdive but not be to dominant and to be a little wobbly so which whould you recommend out of the drybell vibe machine or costalab chorus or lex rotary, ill be getting a few but i dont know how far apart in time so i need to get the most usable one first,thanks

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Jaden! Sorry for my late reply. Chorus, phaser, univibe, flanger are all very different sounding effects so it depends on what you’re looking for. Chorus is the smoothes of them but also the most subtle. I use a lot of flanger myself and mainly the Electric Mistress. The Phase 90 is also an important ingredient in David Gilmour’s mid 70s tones. The Lex is an excellent Leslie simulator but David mainly used rotary cabs that had a more subtle and chorusy character and he also blended these with his Hiwatt and Fender amps. The Boss RT20 is probably the best choice for David’s rotary tones and one pedal that I often use to smooth out overdrives and distortions.

  92. StratGuy93 says:

    Have you tried the MXR CSP101sl (script Phase 90 w/ 9v adapter and led)? How does it compare to the handwired reissue?

    • Bjorn says:

      Very similar to the ’74 reissue. A tad brighter as the ’74 has hardwire bypass, which rolls of some of the high end.

  93. Franklin Ruiz says:

    Did you already try the Red Witch Moon Phaser? It seems to do well on phaser and vibe effects.

    • Bjorn says:

      Haven’t tried it but the reviews and clips are very promising!

      • Denis says:

        Hey Franklin, I tried the Red Witch moon phaser after reading this post. Thankfuly I rent it from a local store for a monthly fee. I returned it yesturday but it left me wanting to buy it:: is very warm modulation you might want to leave on at all times. What it really loved about it was that it blends excellent with other pedals like the deluxe mistress and the vibe machine. Adds a bit of a boost to your tone. And makes your clean tone even sweeter. Will probably buy it soon. Hey Bjorn I really recommend you try this one.

  94. Berky says:

    Curious as to how you feel about the EHX B9 vs the Boss RT-20? The B9 doesn’t have the speed control, but does have a good emulation.

    • Bjorn says:

      I don’t have that much experience with the B9 (or C9) but I think it’s two different pedals. The RT20 simulates the rotary effect only and works more like a chorus. The B9 simulates organ sounds, with leslie, turning your guitar into an organ. I haven’t managed to make it work for simulating David’s rotary sounds.

  95. Bierbattered says:

    Has anyone tried the Monoprice flanger? it looks like a rebranded version of the Donner / Mooer that goes for $21USD Planning on getting one just for the hell of it as a fathers day present :) http://www.pedal-of-the-day.com/2015/02/08/monoprice-flanger-mini/

    • mgearmailmgm says:

      I have not, but I’m pretty sure I’ve seen gut shots of the Mooer and Donner flangers, and they do not use the same circuit boards or all of the same components.

  96. Fernando says:

    Hey Bjorn, do you know EHX Good Vibes, Bad Stone and B9? Have you played with some of them?

    • Bjorn says:

      The Good Vibes is OK but personally I think there are better sounding UniVibes out there in the same price range, like the VoodooLab and MXR. The Bad Stone is a 6-stage phaser I think. It sounds great and I really love that late 60s vintage flavour. It’s not a Gilmour pedal though. You need a 4-stage model like the Phase 90 or Small Stone. Never tried the B9.

  97. m says:

    It might be a good idea to more clearly differentiate between the EHX Nano Clone and the EHX Small Clone in this article. There actually is no “EXH Small Clone Nano.” There is the Small Clone, the Nano Clone, and now the Neo Clone. The Nano and the Neo are quite different pedals that the Small Clone (and not nearly as nice-sounding). The Neo is marketed kind of like it’s just a smaller Small Clone, but it’s a bit noisy and doesn’t have the same chip. The Nano is very noisy.

  98. Dave says:

    Have you already tried the electric mistress XO?

    • Bjorn says:

      Not yet.

      • Gábor says:

        I have got it already. It has got a completely different sound, than my older and bigger Deluxe. The recommended setting, from Bjorn(with color: 9-10, range:offl,rate 9-10) gives a dull, and dark sound.. The pedal inside should have been done with completely different components..Far away from a Gilmour tone..OK I have not played a whole day, dialing all of the potential versions yet.
        EHX does not keep what is promised..Dissapointing as the Stereo Mistress was..
        Gábor

        • Bjorn says:

          OK, thanks for sharing. Sounds like they’ve just used the current Deluxe specs and packed it in a smaller box. Too bad.

        • Dave says:

          Thanks Gabor!!!

          • Ronnie says:

            Hi bjorn did you try the new electro harmonic flanger the mad professor tiny orange phaser could it be a good phaser for david gilmour tone

            • Bjorn says:

              I haven’t tried any of them. From what I understand, the new Mistress sound nothing like the original or the late 90s model, which is a shame. The Mooer ElecLady would be Your best choice for David’s tones. For phasing, check out the MXR 74 reissue or the Whirlwind Orange Box.

  99. Matt says:

    Hi Bjorn. I hope all is well with you. I was wondering if you have tried any incarnations of the Moog chorus – either the big one or the newer minifoogers. As you know, they make amazing pedals, but I was wondering if you have put any of their choruses through the Gilmourish paces:) Thanks Bjorn.

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Matt! No I haven’t. Tried a couple of their pedals but not the chorus. From what I’ve heard though, on reviews, it should be able to cover David’s tones or at least get somewhat close.

  100. Michael says:

    What about the TC Electronic Vortex Flange? How does that stack up with these other options?

    • Bjorn says:

      I’ve never tried so I can’t really tell. I think you can do pretty much anything with the Tone Print and all.

    • Francesco says:

      There is a very nice toneprint by La pédale that’s very similar to the Deluxe. Anyway with the editor you can create your toneprint, especially useful if you can compare it to a Mistress.

  101. Dan says:

    Informative as always! I got the Boss RT-20, and while it sounds AMAZING on cleans, it is far too dominant on heavier gain. I am really looking for that PULSE woosh-y thing. I was looking at the CostaLab pedal, but can’t find one. Any other particular suggestions?

  102. Jay says:

    Thanks for the response on the RT20, just got it yesterday! So while at work ( I work at Guitar Center :) ) me and my buddy were fooling around with it in stereo with both a carbon copy on one amp and TC flashback..very cool..but my question is which is better, RT20 before delays or after? also what are your common settings for your RT20 ,I know different rig setups require different settings but whats your rule of thumb on setting them up for floyd tones?

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Jay! I usually keep mine before the delays. It makes it sound a bit more focused and chorusy. I guess the proper way, in terms of replicating rotary tones, would be to have it last. My main settings are: mode 1, rise time 12:00, effect 8:30, direct 11:00, balance 11:00, overdrive off, slow 2:00, fast 12:00.

  103. Matt says:

    Hi Bjorn. I hope all is well by you. I was wondering if you came across the Voodoo Labs Analog Chorus in your travels. They’ve been discontinued for a few years now. It’s supposedly a CE-1 clone. Or if you haven’t, and you are familiar with the CE-1, could you share your thoughts on either of these choruses for Gilmourish sounds? Thanks Bjorn!

    • Bjorn says:

      Too bad they discontinued it. It was a great sounding chorus and perhaps the best one of the CE1. Very warm and authentic. The CE1 works great for David’s tones. It’s perhaps not as dark and middy as the CE2, which can make it sound a tad too bright with Muffs but I think it sounds better than the CE2 with cleans.

  104. Bryan says:

    How does the latest EHX Deluxe Electric Mistress XO compare to the classic?

  105. Brad says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    I’m excited to report that I just ordered an RT20. Does that take the place of a chorus pedal or should I consider chorus too?

    Thanks,
    Brad

  106. Jay says:

    Hey Bjorn, So I now can financially afford to finish my Gilmour board whoot! But anyways I’m so the point where all I need is my mod pedals and the one I’m stumped on is the rotary aspect. I’ve tried the BBE Soul Vibe a while back and remember thinking it wasn’t bad but have heard that it sounds more like a univibe. then I just rented out a Tech 21 Roto Choir to see how it sound on my rig at home, haven’t tried it out yet but at work it sounded okay..but not a lot of control. Do you recommend the boss RT20 pretty much for all Gilmour eras or are there more out there under the $250 range? Any pedal suggestions if you got them would help (doesn’t have to be a rotary pedal just something to get that classic leslie sound). I work at Guitar Center so it’s easy for me to get my hands on things to try them out for my rig.

    • Bjorn says:

      The RT20 is definitely the way to go to produce similar rotary tones as David’s. The Soul Vibe and other UniVibes shouldn’t be confused with rotary or Leslie sims. They sound very different.

  107. Brad says:

    Have you ever tried the analogman chorus?

  108. Brad says:

    HI Bjorn,

    First, have you tried the Providence Anadime Chorus? If so, I’d love to hear your review of it!

    Thanks,
    Brad

  109. Kostas says:

    Hi Bjorn!!!
    Thank you very much for this beatiful article, its amazing!
    Few days ago i bought a Boss Rt20 , I like to achieve this Flanging Tone from Animals and wall!
    Can you tell me what settings should i use?
    Also what setting should i use to achieve P.U.L.S.E Tones?

    Thank you very much for your time!

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Kostas! The settings depends on your amp and guitar but the ones I’m usually using are: mode 1, effect 9:00, direct 12:00, blend 11:00, overdrive off, slow rotary 2:00.

  110. Arne says:

    Bjørn: The ElecLady is absolutely a nice pedal – but it does get pretty thin with a muff in front. Did you manage to work around that? For now I use an eq pedal in between them to get some balls back, but is this how the originals behaved? Have you tried the new Deluxe EM from EHX – in the green cover? I wonder if they’ve fixed this and the volume drop on that one.

    David: If you haven’t gone out and bought a Leslie yet, you could do worse than try out the Neo MiniVent. I have that one on my board and it’s a very nice leslie-sim. Expensive, but not as bad as it’s mother the Ventilator II. The minis come in guitar and organ versions – the difference is what parameters can be tweaked through the almost non-existent controls. I have the guitar version – comes very close to that Fender Vibrolux-thing (when it’s not doing any amp sim). There are amp sim modes, but I haven’t really warmed to them. The default mode is great though – and you get that ramp up/down speed when you hit the speed knob, which is very nice.

    • Bjorn says:

      I haven’t tried the new Deluxe yet but from what I understand it’s identical to the bigger version. I think the ElecLady works really well with all sorts of pedals. My comment was a first impression when I did the comparison with the Deluxe. After having spent some time with the ElecLady I can get it about 95% identical to my Deluxe… which sounds very different to the one that’s available today. My main settings are the colour at 9:30, range off and the rate at 2:30. Like all of the Mistress models, the ElecLady has a slight volume drop when engaged but it’s very silent.

  111. David says:

    Bjorn:

    I was reading about the MXR Script Phase 90 with LED (CSP101SL) and according to Jim Dunlop the latest versions are true-bypass. Is this accurate as you use the term? Have you tried this particular iteration of the Phase 90? Any thoughts on differences with the other phasers?

    Thanks for all the hard work and useful information

    David

    • Bjorn says:

      Yes, I think the current script with led is TB. The ’74 reissue is hardwire as the original. The led version is kinder to your signal, letting it pass through uncoloured. The pedal sounds great and much better than the block logo one. The ’74, with its hardwire bypass will roll off some of your high end but there’s a mojo in that pedal that the led version doesn’t have…

  112. Guilherme says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    Which settings for Breathe are you using on your Mojo Hand Nebula IV?

  113. Aussie says:

    Hey bjorn would you happen to know if the boss ch-1 covers gilmours tones from the division bell, momentary lapse of reason,and pulse?

  114. Jason says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    I’m seeing some recommendations for a Boss CE-2B(ass) as an alternative to the CE-2. Looking more at the Mooer myself but have you played with the CE-2B at all, or heard anything about it?

    Jason

    • Bjorn says:

      I haven’t A/B’d it with the CE2 but they’re more or less identical and the CE2B has a mix control as well.

  115. David says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    I’m in the market for a Leslie sim (hell, maybe even a Leslie itself!). I haven’t found many out there other than the Strymon and the H&K, and was wondering if you could guide me in the right direction for that 1972-1975 classic Leslie tone Gilmour had. On a side note, would it be worth it to purchase a Leslie 147 itself? I’ve seen a flew floating around on the market for about $1000-$1500, and wasn’t sure if it was a good idea or not.

    Thanks,
    David

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi David! There’s nothing like standing in front of a amp+Leslie combo. It sounds and feels incredible. However, a Leslie is a real pain in the ass to be carrying around. The Strymon is the closest I’ve come with a pedal. However, it doesn’t have a mix control, which means that you either need to put it in a split between two amps or in a loop with a blender pedal, like the One Control Mosquite. The new Ventilator II is also an option and it has a mix control. I don’t think it sounds as good as the Lex but it’s definitely worth checking out.

  116. Ratan says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    I really like the new look of the page :)
    Keep up the good work.
    Take care

  117. Jeff says:

    The BYOC stereo Flanger and the Phase 90 clone are the two sweetest modulation pedals you could own! They are a little bit on the difficult side to put together but the price can’t be beat and the tones are out of this world!

  118. James says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    Have you ever had a chance to try the Orange Box Phaser from Whirlwind? If so, how do you think it stacks up against the MXR phase 90 and Maxon Phase Tone?

  119. Jason says:

    Bjorn,

    I always had my eye on a Uni-Vibe clone (your review of the Dry Bell did wonders), but after reading how you said that a 4-stage phaser could do all the Dark Side/WYWH tones, I think I’m leaning in that direction. I know you can’t review (or possibly own, haha) every pedal out there, but I was curious if you’ve ever tried the VFE Tractor Beam (formerly Enterprise) phaser?

    [I haven’t tried that one no. Personally I don’t think you can beat the MXR ’74 Phase 90 reissue. It’s just something about that tone. Similar pedals would be the Whirlwind Orange Box, Maxon Phase Tone, EHX Small Stone Nano and the MojoHand Nebula. – Bjorn]

  120. Charles says:

    Hey Bjorn, awesome article as ever.
    Have you tried out the new 2015 Electric Mistress, the XO model?
    Is it any way better or worse then the current Deluxe Electric Mistress?

    [Not sure it’s out yet… I haven’t tried it anyway but I’m eager to hear if it’s identical to the large Deluxe or if they’ve changed the circuit. – Bjorn]

  121. Kevin says:

    Hello – I’m not sure if this type of comment is allowed or not, but a large online vendor is offering the Mooer Ensemble King for $46. They only have three left after I purchased mine today, but this is over $20 less than the lowest price I have seen for this pedal.

    If you want this price, just search. It will probably be one of the first hits you see.

    -Kevin

    [No worries, Kevin :) I see Amazon has them priced very low :) It’s a great unit and definitely worth the price! – Bjorn]

  122. Drew says:

    Have you seen that Electro Harmonx just announced the release of the Deluxe Electric Mistress XO for NAMM 2015? Finally a DEM that doesn’t eat up 10 spots on a pedalboard. I can’t wait for this one.

    [Yeah, I know! I’m very excited but I hope they’ve fixed the tone. The current Deluxe sounds too dark and muddy. – Bjorn]

  123. Debra says:

    Also, in the Gdansk gear guide you said David uses a Univibe in the Time solo. That’s my favourite tone of Davids, I personally can’t hear the Univibe at all but if you said there’s one it must be true :) I was just wondering if a phaser like the EHX Small Stone Nano could cover that tone? Thanks again!

    [You can get very close with a phaser. Place it in front of the distortion or fuzz. – Bjorn]

  124. Debra says:

    Hi Bjorn, great article! My favourite so far :) I’m looking to simulate a leslie with a modulation pedal, and I’m on a bit of a budget. I’m looking at the Mooer pedals for this as they are cheap and sound great. Are phasers no good for simulating Leslie tones? If so it looks like I’m tossing up between the Ensemble King and the ElecLady. Which of these two would be better for simulating a Leslie (the leslie tones on the Wall and Wembley 1974 in particular)? Thankyou!

    [Very sorry for my late reply, Debra. None of them sounds like a Leslie but you can use both to get a somewhat similar effect. I’d actually go with the Orange Ninety from Mooer. It’s an excellent Phase 90 clone and if not a Leslie pedal it’s all over Wembley 74 as David used a Phase 90 on several songs including Shine On and Cigar. – Bjorn]

  125. Paul Honeycutt says:

    Have you tried the Whirlwind Orange Box Phaser? It’s like a script Phase 90 with an LED and true bypass. I bought one over the MXR and it’s my second favorite phaser. (The first being an original MuTron Phazer II from the ’70’s, but it’s the size of a brick and pedalboard unfriendly.)

    Just thought I’d give it a mention.

    [Very sorry for my late reply, Paul. Yep, the Whirlwind pedals are great! – Bjorn]

  126. Enemayer says:

    Hey Bjorn,
    Any opinion about the MXR Micro Flanger? I’m also thinking about buying a Script Phase 90, but should I get the one with the LED or not (in Gilmourish tones, obviously).
    Thanks!

    [The Micro Flanger is very nice but perhaps not ideal for Gilmour’s tones. The Mooer ElecLady is hard to beat. I’d get the ’74 reissue Phase 90 and power it with a 9V adapter using a battery pad adapter chord. – Bjorn]

  127. Tim says:

    Hi again Bjorn,

    Just a quick question for you. I just bought the MXR 1974 reissue phase 90. I love the sound but am a little concerned due to the battery only function. I kept the cables plugged into this effect and drained the battery rather quickly. Do you need to unplug the cables everytime after using this effect? I was having a hard time finding anything on this on the internet. I’m planning on buying a Vooloo lab power supply (like you suggested) that has a 9 volt battery adaptor option. Is this a good idea? As always, Thank you Tim

    [Keeping it plugged in will drain the battery. I’m running mine on 9V from a TRex Fuel Tank using a batter pad adapter chord. Works great :) – Bjorn]

  128. Angus says:

    Hi Bjorn!

    I’ve recently changed my view on buying effects pedals. I’m looking at getting a nice, small pedalboard with cheapish but quality, good sounding pedals. I’m steering away from expensive boutique pedals that are hard to acquire, I’d rather have a nice “bang for the buck” pedal that I could easily find at a local music store if the one I was to own broke, and instead I’m looking to focus more on my playing instead of my gear (the less distractions the better as you say). I’m also saving for Uni so I can’t spend too much money regardless. Anyways I’m in the market for a cheap quality chorus pedal and I’ve narrowed it down to the EHX Small Clone/Neo Clone or the Mooer Ensemble King. Which do you recommend out of the 3? I also would like to be able to achieve some Red Hot Chili Peppers chorus tones (even though their guitarist uses the holy grail of choruses, the Boss CE-1). I really like the size of the Mooer pedals, I’d like to have a small pedalboard but still have a fair amount of different effects on it. I’m also going to buy a Mooer ElecLady and Ninety Orange soon. Also can you recommend a cheap but quality distortion/muff for the comfortably numb tone when playing at bedroom volume levels? Again preferably not a really boutique pedal, just something that will do the job and can easily be replaced if broken. I hope I’m not asking too much of you, anyways have a merry Christmas!

    Thanks in advance
    Angus

    [Hi Angus! I’d go for the Mooer Ensemble King. It sounds very close to the old Boss CE2 and it has a mix control, which is handy. One of the better sounding budget Muffs out there is the EHX Bass Muff. It’s very similar to the early Sovtek Muffs. Very versatile and easy to set up. – Bjorn]

  129. Ryan says:

    Hey Bjorn,
    This is a great website!! Everything and anything you could ever want to know about David Gilmour and Pink Floyd. I just wanted to give some love to the Strymon Timeline and Strymon Mobius. They are great boutique pedals that can achieve any David Gilmour/Pink Floyd sound you could ever want. Please review these pedals. Keep up the great work. Thank you.

    [Thanks a lot for your kind words, Ryan! Glad you enjoy my site :) – Bjorn]

  130. Kris says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    Forgot to include in my comment above, that I also have a elctriclady pedal. Thanks!

  131. Kris says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    Still working on assembling my gilmour inspired pedal board. Ideally I would like for my board to be able to replicate the Divsion Bell/Pulse era. So far I have a analogman bi comprossor, P19, dover drive, tc electronics flashback 4x delay, and will be purchasing a buffalo fx boost soon. I’m thinking I need a univibe/rotary speaker pedal. I was thinking drybell vibe/Boss RT-20, but wanted to get your opinion. Also do you think I need a chorus pedal to round out my board? Thanks in advance.

    [Although David used a UniVibe for Breathe and Time on PULSE I think the RT20 is a better investment. Or at least a better priority. It can do a pretty good simulation of the rotating speakers David used, which are essential to his 90s tones. A chorus is not a must but he did use them at this point. – Bjorn]

  132. Wes says:

    “Any idea, approximately, what BPM setting would match the DEM at 9:00 rate?

    [BPM? – Bjorn]”

    Beats per minute. The mobius measures speed for the effects in BPM and I’m trying to dial as close to a DEM setting as I can.

    [Oh… I wasn’t thinking when I answered that one :) I have no idea really. I usually set the rate at 25-30% but I don’t have an accurate BPM setting. – Bjorn]

  133. Wes says:

    I have had a Mobius for a few months and feel it is worth the money. I can’t stack effects like in Bjorn’s newest video (the roto and the mistress), but I can make a damn good mistress\chorus\phaser\vibe\roto and whatever else without a ton of effort.

  134. Brad Roller says:

    Bjorn what’s your opinion on the mooer blue compressor?

    [Haven’t tried it. – Bjorn]

  135. Pete says:

    @Norman,
    I had a Mobius. It has some great sounds in it, but………..
    There are a ton, and I mean a ton, of parameters to tweak. You could spend weeks just adjusting parameters and storing and adjusting and storing. Also, the online manual was not very helpful.
    So while I got some decent sounds out of it, I always felt like I could do better in the adjustments.
    I ended up trading it for a 1968 drip edge 50 watt Fender Bassman head.
    In summary, great sounds to be had with the Mobius. Very versatile. But I got stuck with paralysis by over-analysis with it. (I like my effects a bit simpler to operate.)

  136. Ratan says:

    Which will be the best chorus pedal for David’s tone in general:
    1. Boss CE-5, 2. Boss CH1, 3. Mooer Ensemble King and 4. EHX small clone nano.
    (considering small bedroom setup)

    [The Mooer I guess. It’s closest to the old Boss CE2. – Bjorn]

  137. binson7475 says:

    What is your opinion of the MXR analog chorus?, You can get with this pedal tones CE2?

    [It’s basically a clone of the Boss CE2, with true bypass. You can dial in similar tones but it has a slightly brighter tone and a bit more noticeable swirl. – Bjorn]

  138. Norman says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    Have you had a chance to play with a Strymon Mobius yet. Although very expensive, it seems to cover a lot of pedals including their Lex.

    [I haven’t tried it. I’ve tried most of the stand alone pedals though and based on the reviews of the Mobius, it seems like a safe buy :) – Bjorn]

  139. Roger Sartori says:

    Hi, Bjorn.. I have an Eleclady pedal, but as you mentioned, it is really hard to get a nice tone with, specially with muffs… for example, what settings on this pedal would you recommend to have the Young Lust solo tone? Thanks a lot for your sugestions, as always…

    [I always use this setting: colour 10:00, rage off, rate 2:30. – Bjorn]

  140. boonexy says:

    Hey Bjorn, I was just curious. I listened to some videos of the RA-200 rotating speakers and so far it seems like the Strymon Lex can get close. I’m only interested in the sort of Final Cut solo slow rotation sound combined with a Big Muff, so do you think the Lex is the best for that? Or would I be better off getting the Boss Rotary? I love the Dogs verse solo chunky sound you can get from the Rotary but I think I would rather have the better slow modulation capability than that, but of course if the Boss can do both that’s fine. Thanks.

    [The Lex is probably the finest rotary sim on the market. It’s very good at doing Leslies but the Yamaha produced a more chorusy tone so I think the Boss RT20 is better for that. It also blends better with distortions than the Lex. – Bjorn]

  141. Stephen says:

    IMHO, the Vibe Machine (for its footprint sized unit) is by far the best going, but I still hold that the Sweetsound Ultra Vibe II has a bit more Mojo. I have still yet to try the MJM Sixties Vibe but from all I have heard and read it also is a unit hard to beat. :) Those are by far the 3 units I would consider… Oh and if you have money burning a hole in your pocket add the Effectrode in there as well.

    Starting to sound like Steve Martin in “The Jerk”, “All I need is this lamp. All I need is this lamp, and … this thermos…” OK 4 great vibes! The Effectrode as Bjorn has mentioned is a bit darker.

    If you are searching for the best authentic tones without spending $1300 on an original and inheriting all the issues that come along with buying a vintage Vibe then look no further. Any of these will make you happy.

    Cheers!

  142. Bryan says:

    Hey Bjorn,

    I have a question about flangers. If I wanted to get that nice Wall live tone paring a flanger with a Skreddy P19, would you recommend any of the newer production Deluxe Electric Mistress pedals? or if a vintage can’t be found, what readily available pedal would you recommend?

    The Hartmans seem like a good alternative to a vintage Electric Mistress, but they are pretty pricey at $239 USD, but that is the nature of our beast!

    Also followed your advice and ditched my mixed-brand patch cables for a Lava solderless and there was a tone improvement. Possibly time for a booster with two Muffs, chorus, Nova delay, flanger, Keeley BD-2 booster and compressor?

    [Hi Bryan! I think the best Mistress available today is the Mooer ElecLady. The Hartman sounds great but it doesn’t go that well with high gain pedals. The current Deluxe from EHX is way too dark and boomy. The Mooer is kind of a mix between the original ’76 and the late 90s Deluxe. And it’s small and cheap! – Bjorn]

  143. KEITH says:

    @Thomas, While Earthquaker devices make some great pedals, they totally missed the mark with the DEPTHS. It just doesn’t reallt sound like a Uni-Vibe. At, the same size, and a little more cash, and time, the Drybell Vibe-Machine is IMO, and that of many others, is the best vibe going. You can hear it, and read the review here on Gilmourish. Bjorn is also quite fond of thr versatile, and board friendly Vibe Machine. Hope that helps.
    Peace, Keith

  144. Thomas says:

    Hey Bjorn, have you checked out any of the Earthquaker Devices modulators with Gilmour’s tone in mind? The Depths optical vibe and the Grand Orbiter phase shifter come to mind.

    [Nope. – Bjorn]

  145. Ratan says:

    How is BBE Opto Stomp (compressor) compared to CS3 and Dynacomp. Would you recommend it keeping Gilmour’s sound in mind?

    [I haven’t tried it so I can’t really tell. The CS3 sounds a bit thin and it’s also a tad noisy. The Dyna goes really well with gain pedals in particular. Very transparent and dynamic. – Bjorn]

  146. AuditoryDriving says:

    Hey Bjorn,

    Two months ago I purchased a new Deluxe Electric mistress, and I have to say.. well, I am a bit disappointed… First of all, there is a volume drop (which is quite serious especially when used in gigs etc). And then, you are right, it sounds darker then the earlier deluxe models… Although not suitable for DG kind-of leads, I can leave with the darker tone. But the volume drop?? I thought they had fixed it… Is it still a problem or did I just get a faulty unit?

    I had been waiting for this one for quite some time… too bad. :(

    Thanks in advance :)

    [No, they never fixed the volume drop. It’s just the way the circuit is designed. The newer models sounds very dark and doesn’t blend that well with other pedals. The Mooer ElecLady is actually a much better sounding Mistress. – Bjorn]

  147. Wes says:

    Any idea, approximately, what BPM setting would match the DEM at 9:00 rate?

    [BPM? – Bjorn]

  148. Clayton Keibler says:

    And regarding compression i have a keeley 4 knob clone built with the nos metal can ca3080 chips and i run it at 12v with a slow attack. The input gain is nescessary if you wanna use any sort of higher output pickups… including emg’s. Buti do feel like optical compressors give the most sustain while not messing with pick attack too much

  149. Clayton Keibler says:

    Great reviews! I am not a fan of the modern die cast box electro harmonix pedals whatsoever. They just dont have it ya know. Even the deluxe memory man tt with the mn3005s does not do it for me… maybe the tone is in yhose flimsy aluminum boxes.

    QUESTION
    how do you tell the dem (delux electric mistress) models apart? Like how do i know if its a good 90s reissue versus a later reissue? Or are all the big box ones good?

    I assume some use mn3007 bbds and some use mn3207. I have an mn3007 small clone that sounds much better than an mn3207 even though its not even being ran at higher voltages

    I really want a dem and need some help picking one out!

    [The late 90s Mistress is really worth tracking down. Much better sounding than the current model. Check out this site for details on the differences. – Bjorn]

  150. Ratan says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    Which one will be better option between MXR Dyna Comp (Block Logo, Red colour, not sure if it will be called block reissue but manufactured 4 years back) and Boss CS-3 (manufactured 4 years back). Definitely both of them are not vintage :)

    [The Dynacomp… since you ask me :) – Bjorn]

  151. Tom from Chile says:

    Wow, what a setup! Thanks Bjorn!! Honestly, It sounds awesome; I’d never though that could be a POD!! That was a surprise; keep the good work!! Good look with your album, I’ll be glad to hear it..
    Cheers!

    [The POD doesn’t cover everything naturally but with some tweaking I often use it for cleans and heavy distortion. Paired with a tube amp and perhaps a couple of pedals it sounds really nice :) – Bjorn]

  152. Tom from Chile says:

    Hey Bjorn, I hope you dont hate me for this question but… is that flanger + overdrive at 4:32 & 5:31 in Call Me Back? Im really loving that modulated tone.. Also, is that a Strat, and a normal one?
    Thanks Bjorn; if you prefer to keep the mistery, I understand too (that would be cool)
    Again, thank you!!

    [Hi Tom! Not at all… :) All the guitars in the mid section was recorded with a Strat with EMG DG20 into a POD X3. I think I used a Mesa sim with a Tube Driver sim for just a hint of break up. After the POD I had a Deluxe Mistress and I think the strum guitars also had a RotoVibe placed in front of the POD. All the delays were added in Logic. The rest of the song, all the rhythms and leads, were recorded live. – Bjorn]

  153. Cem says:

    Hi Bjorn
    What do you think about the MXR stereo chorus in terms of gilmourish tones?
    Thanks!

    [Works nicely :) – Bjorn]

  154. Jeremy says:

    Bjorn,

    Thanks for everything. I have looked through every section of your site 50+ times. I was curious if you had any opinion on whether the Made in Japan or Made in Taiwan CH-2 was better or if there is a noticeable difference. There is definitely a difference in price and there is also a rare version of the CH-2 with a silver screw that goes for even more. I’m sure you have done a fair amount of research.

    Thanks,
    Jeremy

    [You mean the CE-2 chorus? The Japanese ones are slightly warmer sounding, with less mid range. – Bjorn]

  155. Ozgur says:

    I bought a Whirlwind Orange Box couple of months ago… Gosh, what a lovely, sweet sound! Highly recommended…

    [Yep… those Whirlwind pedals are great! – Bjorn]

  156. Carlos says:

    Hello Bjorn,

    I hope this message finds you well. Thank you for your words of wisdom. I have a quick question regarding a new product that I just saw available on a couple of web sites and I wanted to know your thoughts. Have you heard anything about the Hammond Leslie Digital Rotary Effects Pedal (good or bad)?

    Thanks.

    [Hi Carlos. I haven’t had the chance to try that one yet. – Bjorn]

  157. James says:

    Hi Bjorn, I has a senior moment, I forgot to add the Zakk Wylde Phase 90 to the list rating against the reissue phase 90. By the way, is the new Custom Shop CSP-101SL Script Phase 90 with led the right one to get? Thanks Bjorn!

    [As far as I know, the Zakk Wylde is more or less identical to the EVH. See my reply to your previous comment as well :) – Bjorn]

  158. James says:

    Hi Bjorn, what are you thoughts on the EVH Phase 90? How would you rate it against the MXR 1974 CS script reissue Phase 90? Thanks

    [Not that big difference. The 74 is perhaps a tad warmer but it also has hardwire bypass, which takes some of your top. The EVH is perhaps a more pedal board friendly pedal but I think I prefer the tone of the 74. – Bjorn]

  159. Eric Nyberg says:

    Hey Bjorn what can you tell me about the Tc Electronic Vortex vs. the Mooer Elec Lady? Will the vortex simulate a leslie as well as the mistress, not detune? Which do you think is a better thing?

    [I’ve never tried the Vortex so I can’t really tell for sure. Based on the clips I’ve heard it does rotary sounds pretty well but it’s slightly different sounding flanger compared to the Mistress. Closer to the MXR. – Bjorn]

  160. **sebastiano** says:

    Hi bjorn,
    At the end I had a good opportunity to get a very good second hand choruslab at 120 euro.
    I trust to have done a good choice based on your score of 10/10.

    I need another advice based on gandsk sound which could be my next pedal
    Stratocaster made in mexico original pick up
    Boss CS2
    Skreddy p19
    Choruslab
    TC flashback

    One favour bjorn give me, based on your opinion, the one (brand and model) that you would buy.
    Thanks in advance
    Sebastiano

    [An overdrive perhaps? David used the Tube Driver but it’s quite expensive. If you can’t afford one, I recommend either the Wampler Plexi Drive or Fulltone OCD. Both are very close. It’s also worth checking out the Lovepedal Dover Drive that I recently did a review on. It’s tweaked for a more mid rangy tone but nails most of David’s tones too :) – Bjorn]

  161. Gareth says:

    Hi Bjorn

    So its been a while now since its been released and wanted to know whether you managed to check out the Neo Ventilator II leslie emulator? Managed to snag one when they got released and have been blown away by its amount of control and of course how it sounds. I don’t have that much experience with rotary simulators but its pretty much my only modulation pedal at this point in time. The slow setting has some pretty convincing chorus/flanging tones and the fast setting is really thick and rich. Whats really cool is the ability to adjust the mix for the high and low rotors seperately so I set them pretty far away so its lower in the mix. If you add that with an expression pedal (perhaps controlling say the fast speed) you have 3 very interesting modulations to use depending on what tones you after – I like to take the fast setting and then dial the speed all the way back so its going really slowly as it makes a really heavy chorus effect. Although I try and look at it as an effect all in itself that I can use to create unique tones to me rather than full on emulating some Gilmour tones (although in honesty the first thing I did was try and get some CN tones with my Box of War haha). Definitely worth checking out if you have the chance!
    All the best with the Solo album endeavours and thanks for being the bearer of awesome news with the new PF album! Beyond amped for all the great new music on the way!
    Cheers

    [Hi Gareth! Thanks for your kind words and for sharing a bit on the Neo. I haven’t had the chance to check one out my self yet… – Bjorn]

  162. KEITH says:

    Hey Bjorn, just checked out the new b9 from EHX. It’s amazing! The pedal has about 6 or 7 presets that cover the most popular Hammond settings, and these can be customized through a series of knobs for click, modulation, etc. The tracking is superb, and this pedal will make any guitarist able to play those great b3 sounds with a stomp. Seems like Mr Matthews isn’t done yet, maybe all of the fine boutique builders have sparked some creativity in the EHX house, and this pedal is a definite winner. Priced just over $200.00, it’s a great tool for stage, or studio. Combined with a volume pedal, you’d really have a hard time telling that it’s not a b3. Seriously gassing for the EHX b9. Great pedal for my rusty keyboard skills!
    Peace, Love, and Gilmourish, Keith

    [Cool :) Seems like EHX has gotten a real boost lately and take the challenge from many of the boutique companies and cloners. The Soul Food, East River Drive, Deluxe Muff… Great value and tone. – Bjorn]

  163. **sebastiano** says:

    HiBjorn,
    i am going to buy a chorus ce2.I have found, here in Italy, two options
    The ce 2 made in japan prize 150 euro
    The ce2 made in taiwan prie 100 euro
    There is really differences of tone between the two? Did you the opportunity to test both?
    Do you think it worth the higher cost?
    Thanks a lot and as usually great job :-)
    Sebastiano

    [Get the Japanese :) – Bjorn]

  164. George says:

    Greetings

    What do you think of such modulation pedals as Sea Machine Chorus, Phase 99 and Airplane Flanger?

    Thank you

    [Never tried any of them. – Bjorn]

  165. Tom from Chile says:

    Hey Bjorn, do you believe that there’s a little (very very little) phaser in the first Comfortably Numb solo ? You can hear a dominating phaser in the demos, maybe Dave used just a hint for the album?… Tell me what you think!
    Cheers Bjorn!

    [Yes there is one on the demo but I don’t think he used it for the actual solo that’s recorded. The Phase 90 that he used is very noticeable and it would have dominated more. There are conflicting reports on how the solo was recorded but it seems to be a consensus on The Black Strat with DiMarzio FS1 > EHX ram’s head Big Muff > split between Hiwatt+WEM and Yamaha RA200 rotating speaker cab. Although almost impossible to hear the Yamaha is present and it could be the modulation you hear and are referring to. The main solo is also mixed wide with a huge stereo reverb for a doubling effect. Listening to the mix it’s also evident that the signal was compressed and probably gated a lot too in the mix. – Bjorn]

  166. Emiliano says:

    Hi Bjorn, have you tried the ADA Flanger? It’s one of the best flangers ever created but I don’t know if they are useful to get some DG tones.
    Kind regards.

    [Never tried it but based on the clips I’ve heard I’m not sure it’s that suited for David’s tones. More of a “jet” type of flanger, like the MXR, compared to the liquidy Mistress. – Bjorn]

  167. Michal says:

    Hello,
    have you ever tried vintage Japanese Ibanez CS9 chorus? How is it comparable to BOSS CE-2?
    Thanks.

    [Very similar. – Bjorn]

  168. Will says:

    Wesley, I don’t have one myself, but I’d say the Strymon Mobius is the way to go… I’ve heard nothing but good about them, and they cover all Gilmour modulations, plus more… But, as Bjorn pointed out, they are quite pricey! Although when you work it out, you’d probably spend more getting the individual pedals (Electric Mistress, Phase 90, Boss CE-2 etc), and one good Uni-Vibe unit would set you back at least half of what the Mobius costs… So in the long run, I think it’s worth it :)

  169. KEITH says:

    @Wesley, I just saw an EHX that has a Mistress, and two other pedals, I think one is a memory man circuit. Didn’t look closely, as I was there looking fir Recording gear, but check EHX website, It may have been delay, flange, and chorus?
    KC

  170. Wesley says:

    Any thoughts on any multi-modulation pedals? Due to lack of space, I’d love to find one pedal that covers the chorus\vibe\flanger\phaser ground on its own. Or at most, two versatile pedals..

    [Don’t have much experience with that. The Strymon Mobius is probably the ultimate unit but it’s quite expensive too :) – Bjorn]

  171. Ernesto says:

    Hello Bjorn,

    Could you tell me from your experience, if the Mooer eleclady would be as good as your EH Electric Mistress, in order to replicate the Andy Summers Police tones?

    best regards,

    Ernesto

    [I would think so. They’re very similar sounding. – Bjorn]

  172. Brian Krause says:

    Neo Ventilator II May Produce The ULTIMATE Yamaha RA-200 Sound!

    This is it! The new model has a mix control for BOTH the horn and the rotor. You can completely dial out the rotor for a dry “stationary” cabinet sound AND mix in the horn to taste. I can’t wait to get my hands on one of these! Check out this great YouTube video for a demonstration!

    [Awesome! – Bjorn]

  173. Rhys Watson says:

    Hi, do you have any opinions on the mxr stereo chorus/analog chorus because those look like cheaper alternatives to the boss de-2
    thanks

    [Never tried it. – Bjorn]

  174. Mark says:

    Ps, would love to get your view of the strymon mobius. It covers nearly all David’s mod tones. It also has a neat loop feature which allows you to select whether you want tom place the effect pre or post drive pedals. Very clever!

    [Haven’t had the chance to try it out yet… – Bjorn]

  175. Mark says:

    Hi Bjorn

    Amazing site and all your efforts in keeping it alive and relevant are thoroughly appreciated!!

    Quick question… I have both the mxr phase 90 74 RI and the phase 45 RI. I have noticed a definite treble bump, to the point where it is nearly harsh when I place them before dirt. I’ve had them before the fuzz face and moved them after the ff but before the rest of the drive pedals which include combinations of mad professor sweet honey, wampler plexidrive, wampler black 65, lovepedal les lius and way huge red llama. The phase pedals still give a treble boost before various combos of these pedals but when moved after them, the boost disappears. Interestingly, if I put the phasers before my Rat ii, there is no lift. I also have a block phase 90 from about 88/89, and this actually sounds great in front of the drive pedals, but as you have pointed out, lacks transparency.

    No show stopper really, but was just curious to know if you have experienced anything similar and had any thoughts on why it might be happening? I’m guessing there is some strange impedance mismatch going on somewhere. Maybe a well placed buffer in the chain might help out? The effect is most noticeable in front of the fuzz face (I use the AM-SF bc108 and the dunlop mini Red (germanium) ff).

    Cheers

    M

    [I’m no expert on this but the MXR Custom Shop reissues have hard wired bypass, like the original pedals, which means that the signal is travelling through the circuit even when they’re off. This should result in less treble. Not more. Are you experiencing this when the pedals are off or engaged? The phasing effect will add some treble, since it’s filtering the tone and modulating it in different frequencies. With some pedals, this will appear as more treble but it might also be the result of too much high end on your amp. Try to adjust your amp a bit and try placing the phasers both before and after your gain pedals and hear the difference. – Bjorn]

  176. Debargho Sarkar says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    how would you rate the Tc Electronics Stereo Chorus/Flanger for Gilmour tones and for a Laney Cub12R, bedroom setup? for a while, it was Eric Johnson’s favourite. Don’t know if he still uses it or not. But in any case, how does it fare for Gilmour tones?

    Cheers,
    Debargho

    [Never tried the old TC chorus so I can’t really tell. The Cub amps are great for bedroom use with lots of headroom and they handle pedals very well. – Bjorn]

  177. Hamish says:

    Thank you for your previous response.
    I have bought an ElecLady flanger from Mooer – any recommendations for Wall live settings? The sound I am thinking of is the Another Brick Pt 1 tone.
    Great site, love your work!
    Thanks again!
    Hamish

    [It’s a bit tricky to find the sweetspot but I’ve set the colour slightly above 10 o’clock and the rate at 2:30. The range is rolled all the way back. – Bjorn]

  178. Ben Gibson says:

    Hi Bjorn… man, thanks SO MUCH for the fantastic website and resources to catchin’ that Gilmour tone… I have a question: I am going crazy trying to figure out what combination of effects David is using for that awesome compressed/modulated sound in the solo to ‘A Great Day For Freedom’ live in Gdansk… best I can figure is it’s compressed with an overdrive/fuzz and some kind of modulation… perhaps a univibe or a leslie? Let me know if you can, and how to best approximate it if it’s some unbelievably rare and expensive gear… I’d appreciate it (and probably have to start saving my $ to purchase the gear, because that is probably one of the best sounding solo tones I ever heard!!)

    [Hi Ben! Sorry for my late reply. I’ve never managed to figure out if he’s using modulation or not on that performance. Sounds like there’s some modulation going on but apart from a UniVibe, there was nothing else in his rig. Doesn’t sound UniVib-ish to me… Anyway, the overdrive sounds like a Tube Driver set for a high gain but it could be the Cornish G2 as well… although I lean towards the former. Other than that, he might have used a compressor but it’s not a must for this tone. There’s also delay. The Tube Driver gets more compressed the more you drive it. Just like an amp. It’s the tube that gets hot and adds that nice compression. A similar pedal is the Wampler Plexi Drive, which is kind of a JTM45 in a box and the more you drive it, it adds a smooth compression. It doesn’t have as much gain as the Tube Driver but they’re very similar. – Bjorn]

    • Cody says:

      I too am certain I hear modulation in the Gdansk version of a great day for freedom solo! Its not on the whole time but there is an unmistakably subtle swirling sound at parts. At about 4:55 in this link ( https://youtu.be/unxU-mRfRGQ ) you can see him on the monitor maybe click something on at his feet and his tone then has a subtle modulation to it. Sounds like it could be a low mixed univibe. To me the effect is more obvious in some of the little percussive rakes he likes to do (at 5:07 , for example and you can hear the movement of a filtering effect)

      Let me know what you think :)

  179. Julien says:

    Hi Bjorn

    First, I want to thank you about this great site which teach me a lot !

    I have a question…Have you ever heard about the rack effect (Delay, flanger, leslie, chorus,…), TC Electronic G Major 2 ?
    Does it recommanded for playing gilmour style ?

    Thanks

    Sincerely,

    [Hi Julien, I’ve tried it a couple of times but I don’t have that much experience with it. TC feature the same stem for all their effects in all their applications so whether you’re buying a stomp box or a big system, it’s the same tones. What differs is the ability to tweak the tones, make patches and presets and tailor your own tones and rig. – Bjorn]

  180. Markus says:

    Hey!
    Have you ever heard the Psilocybe Phaser by HBE? I think it could also make a great gilmourish sound.

    [Never tried it. – Bjorn]

  181. Tom from Chile says:

    Hmm, I agree, I find that ODs or Distortions dont sound as good as before with the range. Also, I think that playing clean (but not chords) it sounds bad (IMO), but for Mihalis I guess range is a must.
    Thanks for the answer!!

  182. Tom from Chile says:

    Hey Bjorn, why you dont use the “range” in flangers? Im just curios, I mean, with some range it sounds somewhat chorus-ey, like that part from live Pigs (three different ones) before the part that had the talkbox solo. Thank you in advance Bjorn!! Have a nice day

    [I think it makes the Mistress sound too dominating and a bit detuned, almost like a ring modulator. Keeping it “off”, makes the pedal more transparent and natural sounding IMO. – Bjorn]

  183. Operario says:

    Hi Bjorn! I was just listening to “Call me Back” (great song, brilliant guitar work) and wondering what kind of modulation you used for that swooshing tone in the rhythm guitar. Was that a Univibe? It sound beautiful.

    Congratulations on the great work

    Cheers mate!

    [Thanks for your kind words! That’s a Dunlop RotoVibe blended with a CostaLab ChorusLab. I think I also used a just a hint of overdrive from the Wampler Plexi Drive, to get a bit more bite. – Bjorn]

  184. Hamish says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    Great new update!
    Is the current Electro-Harmonix Deluxe Electric Mistress any good? I am struggling to find a good sounding flanger for the David’s Wall live tones. There don’t seem to be many flangers that mix with high-gain effects and don’t produce noise or a volume drop.
    Thanks, Hamish

    [The current model is OK but a bit too dark and boomy. The late 90s models should be easy to track down on EBay but check out the Mooer ElecLady. IMO the best clone out there. – Bjorn]

  185. Rick says:

    Hello
    Have you ever tried or heard about Mr Black Tunnellworm Flanger?? Just wondering if you thought it could replicate Gilmours Flanger Tone

    [Never tried it. – Bjorn]

  186. ROULEAU says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    Your website is awesome !!!
    Congratulations.
    I’ve got a question. I want to buy an old CE2 Boss Chorus pedal (for PULSE sound). I want to buy a Made in Japan pedal, but I found many models in Ebay (Many years, black or green label, white or black screw…) with many prices.
    What do you recommend me to buy ?
    Best regards from France.
    JC

    [The Japanese models are recommended although I’m not sure how big the difference is from the Taiwanese. Both the black and green label Japanese are identical. As are the black and silver knob versions. – Bjorn]

  187. KEITH says:

    Glad to help Roger, sorry I spelled your last name wrong. I’m no Bjorn Riis, but I’ve done so much research the past 3 years, I actually know a bit about pedals now, so feel free to ask anything , any time.
    Peace, I wish the LED version would have been out when I got my script!
    BEST REGARDS, KEITH

  188. Roger Sartori says:

    THANK YOU, KEITH! Cheers!

  189. Roger Sartori says:

    Right, Bjorn… but is there any scritp reissue edition with led and 9V power IN, like mine?

  190. KEITH says:

    @Roger Santori, There are two different versions of thr script Phase 90 now. One is the ’76 direct copy, and the new one sports the Led, and 9v adapter. As far as I can tell, that’s the only difference, and actually quite convenient. So, yes, it is the original circuit as the Script without the LED. ;)
    Peace, Keith

  191. Roger Sartori says:

    Hi, Bjorn. I bought an MXR script phase 90 but it has led and 9V power in… is it different from the block logo?? Is it not the reissue series? Thanks as always.

    [The script logos has a warmer and smoother tone. The block has more mid range and a tad of boost, making it sound less smooth and vintage. – Bjorn]

  192. Ratan Prasad says:

    Great article as always!

    I have a genera question. I understand that Chorus, flanger and phaser are three different effects and serve different purpose and each is meant for different era/tone for David’s sound. However which modulation ( chorus, flanger, phaser) is most versatile? if i have to choose one among the three types, which is most versatile, also for other genres and tones?
    Which chorus will be best 
Smaller amps/bedroom level ? Which one is best chorus for David’s tone in general (all the reissue model, not any vintage model) : 1. Boss CE-5 Chorus Ensemble, 2. EHX Nano Clone, 3.EHX Neo Clone, 4. EHX Small Clone, 5 TC Electronic Corona Chorus 6. Boss CS.

    Thanks for the your answer :)

    [I guess a chorus is the most versatile. It’s a subtle effect that fits all musical styles. Flanger and phasers are dominating and can sound both dated and typical for certain genres. All of the chorus pedals listed in the Gear Guide are more or less based on the Boss CE2, which is the one David used. – Bjorn]

  193. Sebastien says:

    Hello Bjorn,

    Sorry for the wrong topic but there’s no possibility to leave a comment in the TC electronics flashback review again.

    A while ago you were writing that the old Memory man Deluxe was the best pedal to replicate the Binson echorec… your review about the Tc electronic Flashback was not that good… so I don’t understand seing pics of your home pedalboard using that pedal… have you checked the Malekko Analog ekko? (nice comparison made on the Shnobel channel / Youtube). That pedal, which has also the modulation included like the memory Man, seems to be the perfect replacement…

    What is in your opinion the best “Memory Man like” pedal out there? Malekko, mxr carbon copy (both have a modulation setting)? TWA Echo ?

    I’d like to make the right choice.

    Thanks for your help!

    Regards

    Sebastien

    [The best Mem Man option is by far the TRex Replica. It doesn’t have the modulation feature but the pedal is based on the Mem Man and the tone is superb. The Flashback review was mainly focusing on the Alter Ego’s new features, the Binson and Mem Man sounds. They didn’t sound nearly as good as they could have. I often use the Mem Man myself but the reason I feature the blue Flashback in my practice board is that it has a small footprint and the 2290 digital delay tone is great. For the price, the Flashback is probably the best buy out there. That doesn’t mean that it’s better then the Mem Man or Replica, but given the price, it’s worth checking out :) – Bjorn]

  194. Cem says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    Great Article! I have a Big Muff and an Electric Mistress, but I’m not exactly sure as to where I should put the Electric Mistress to get the Final Cut and Wall tones. I’ve tried it both ways, but when I but the Mistress first in the chain, it just sounds too dark and swirly, and when I put the it second in chain, it’s a bit too redundant. Has it got to do with the type of Muff and amp, and what would you suggest?
    Thanks!

    [The Mistress should be placed after the Muff. It’s a very dominating effect and its tone depends on what guitar and amp you use. It also smooths out a bit when you play loud and push the signal. David’s using the Mistress on some stuff but what you mainly hear is a combination of the Muff and a Yamaha rotating speaker. It adds a milder modulation than the Mistress but you can use the Mistress to achieve similar tones. – Bjorn]

  195. Bo says:

    Welp! Sounds like someone else besides me is clamoring for a gear guide… ;) I love the T-Rex and my Caitlinbread Echoric…but i always wish i could get the Trex to self-oscilate with a turn of a knob…kinda takes the fun out of reaching for those old psychedelic sounds. And since i use my trex last in stereo to two amps i’m always testing new delay pedals to go in front of it. What’s a good (fun) delay these days. I’ve been looking at the Delay Lama from Jams with the “Hold” switch… looks real cool. Any ideas or favorites these days? I love the Echoric as well and theres something beautiful about analog delay or sims that i can’t get enough of. Love my set-up…i guess i’m just trying to add to the conversation. I know, i know :) Delay guide is coming soon. Peace Bjorn!! I love this website!!
    Stay Golden!

    [A matter of days… :) Cheers! – Bjorn]

  196. Pete says:

    I wanted a tape echo, but couldn’t afford the real thing. I was torn between the Skreddy Echo, (which sounds AMAZING), the Strymon El Capistan, (which also sounds great, has tap tempo, but way too may parameters to tweak), and the Wampler Faux Tape Echo.
    The Wampler also has tap tempo and seems to lie somewhere between the two. (Also the cost came into play.)
    Have been really happy with it.
    I know set it before my modulations. A friend explained to me that setting after the modulations can create an effect where you have two or more signals doing different modulation and this can cause some phase cancelling. I tried it before the modulations and now all the delays get the same exact modulation. I can really hear the difference.

  197. Pete says:

    Hey Bjorn, You don’t really have a delay section …..yet, but I just wanted to throw in one contender to make the list. The Wampler Faux Tape Echo. This pedal ROCKS!! Great for the earlier stuff. It also has a tunable “warble” switch to simulate the effects of tape warbling due to age and slipping. Check it out!!
    (I admit, it’s not so good for the stuff from his first solo album on, but before that…..yeah.)

    [Thanks for the tip! I haven’t had the chance to try that one out yet. – Bjorn]

  198. Michael says:

    You say chorus pedals are dominant effects, especially the BYOC, so would that not be a great idea to get when I don’t have a lot of money to spend? I already have a clone of the mistress, so I can get a pretty good Animals/Wall tone out of those, but I’ve also got an OCD for that Division Bell and PULSE tone, which I think a chorus would contribute to. So the question is, would buying a chorus be worth it when I can’t split my signal or anything like that how David did?

    [Chedck out the Mooer Ensemble King. It’s based on the Boss CE2, with a mix controll allowing you to blend in just the amount you need. Not as smooth and warm as the old Boss but definitely worth a try. – Bjorn]

  199. Dave Austin says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    Am I right in thinking that the new Phase 90 scripts aren’t worth having when compared to vintage models?

    Would I be better off going for a Small stone Nano or a Mooer 90 Orange? They’re certainly cheaper here in the UK!

    If either is a better bet than the new scripts, which would you go for?

    Thanks in advance.

    Dave

    [The MXR Custom Shop 74 is a clone of the original and personally I don’t think you can get any closer. The led script is also great and very close to the original. The Small Stone, another favourite of mine, sound a bit milder and perhaps not as deep as the Phase 90. Way better than the block MXR but I prefer the 74 reissue. – Bjorn]

  200. Angus says:

    Hi Bjorn! I love your work and I was just wondering what’s a good delay pedal for getting david’s tone? I’ve been looking at the T-rex replica, the Deluxe memory man, the catalinbread echorec and a few others but I can’t seem to make a decision. :)

    [Depends on what tones you want. All of the ones you mention are great for the early 70s tones but not that suited for the Wall-present era. You’d want a digital delay for that, producing clear and precise repeats. I’m very fond of the Replica. – Bjorn]

  201. Brad Roller says:

    Bjorn I know I’ve been asking a lot of questions a lot here lately but I got one more and I’ll leave you alone lol real quick, David used the whammy 1 if I get the whammy 5 will it be similar or is it a good choice? I’m not able to try one out. Thanks!!

    [I haven’t tried the 5 yet but from what I understand, it’s gotten some very nice reviews and it seems that it’s closer to the first than 2-4. Either way, it’s a whammy and you’ll be able to nail Marooned and The Blue with it :) – Bjorn]

  202. Dave Austin says:

    Thanks so much both for your input, really appreciate it. This website is by far and away the best resource on the net for Floyd/Gilmour obsessives!!

    [Cheers, Dave! – Bjorn]

  203. Pete says:

    Hey Dave! I know Bjorn didn’t elaborate. He’s been super busy, with touring, and reviews and family, and etc…….
    The Mooer is an excellent pedal. A great EM clone that is pedal board and wallet friendly.
    Some recommended settings on it are: set the color just a bit after 10, turn the range all the way down, set filter to normal and rate between 1 and 2 o’clock.
    You may notice a bit of a volume drop, but if you work with the color and find the sweet spot, the drop of won’t be as noticeable.
    Another tip that I’ve done is filled in the indents on the small knobs with white-out. Then I lightly sanded the residue off. This allows you to see your settings better.

    Bjorn, hope I didn’t cross any lines with my input. :)

    [Thanks for the input, Pete! I agree completely with you. The Eleclady is an excellent clone and , IMO, a much better one than the Hartman. It’s down to preference and taste, but the Mooer works nicely with both cleans and distortions, while the Hartman tend to mess up the distortions. The current Deluxe has a bit too much mid range and low end, which makes it sound darker and not that suited for distortions. The late 90s Deluxe has an open and liquidy tone and the Eleclady, I suspect, is based on this version. There is a difference, but you need a trained ear to hear it. – Bjorn]

  204. Dave Austin says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    New EH deluxe EM or a Mooer Eleclady?

    Struggling to find a 80’s or 90’s electric mistress!!

    Thanks,

    Dave

    [Mooer. – Bjorn]

  205. Pedro says:

    Greetings Bjorn! Thanks for an awesome page, it has help me a lot to make my setup!

    I was going to ask you between 2 phasers than can make a uni-vibe sound. The best phasers I had listened are VFE Phaser and Blackout Effectors Whetstone Analog Phaser. I liked a little bit more VFE, more simple, awesome sound, and seems that makes a better vintage Uni-Vibe sounds.

    Do you know them? if you do, what’s your opinion on them?

    Thanks!
    Pedro

    [Hi Pedro! Thanks for your kind words! I’ve played neither so I can’t really tell. In general, a phaser is not quite a UniVibe but you could use one for similar tones. I’m very happy with the MXR script 74 reissue and the Phase 45, although very subtle, does a very nice phase/UniVibe thing. Personally I’m also a huge fat of the old Dunlop RotoVibe, which lies right between a phaser and UniVibe. – Bjorn]

  206. Pat says:

    Hi Bjorn. Very cool and informative website! Just wanted to share my experiences on a few of the pedals mentioned in this section. I agree that the EH Nano Clone is a disappointment. However, the Neo Clone is fantastic. On the Neo Clone, the volume drop has been corrected and it includes the depth switch found on the original small clone. The Boss CE-20 Chorus Ensemble is also worth considering, in my opinion. I normally steer clear of modeling pedals when I can get the real thing. However, the CE-20 really captures the rich tones on the Boss CE-1 and CE-2 as well as the Dimension D and others. It is very flexible unit with surprisingly authentic sounds.

    I, too, love the Boss RT-20. In fact, I was so impressed with it, that it led me to seek out the CE-20 I mentioned above. I have found that, for me, it is best placed before OD/distortion. The RT-20’s built in overdrive is a muddy mess. But, I have found that if you dial in just a little bit (barely cracking the knob), it can add a bit of drive and fullness to the tone and helps to tame some of the treble spike you can get at higher volumes when using the bridge pickup. I have also found a way to dial in what I think is a good sounding Uni-vibe tone. Again, the RT-20 has to be placed before OD/distortion. The RT-20’s overdrive must be completely off or it totally muddies everything up. Set the intensity knob to taste and then dial in some of the dry signal. Sounds pretty good to me.

    I really like the sound of the EH Neo Mistress but agree that it is noisy and not very close to the tone of the DEM. The Mooer Eleclady is definitely the way to go if you are looking for a practical and affordable alternative to a DEM.

    The EH Nano Small Stone sounds as good as any Small Stone I’ve every owned or tried and doesn’t have that dreaded volume drop. I think any fan of vintage phase shifting really needs to own both a Small Stone and a Phase 90. I tend to prefer the Phase 90 with single coils and The Small Stone with humbuckers.

    Cheers,

    Pat

    [Thanks for sharing, Pat! – Bjorn]

  207. Tom says:

    Im sorry Bjorn, I didnt know where to put this, but delays go at the end of the chain haha
    Emm, do you think a Carbon Copy could sound “haunting” as some pompeii tunes? Well, my other options are Boss DD3 or DD7 but it seems like they arent so good at all
    Thank you

    [The Carbon Copy goes very well for that era :) – Bjorn]

  208. Rob says:

    Hi Bjorn – long time reader first time poster. :) I recently got a Fire Bottle (LOVE IT) and am wondering if you’ve played it through the Mooer Ninety Orange at all. The boost on the FB seems to just kill the Ninety Orange, and what started as a powerful clean sound from guitar into FB ends up coming out of the Ninety Orange very distorted.

    I end up having to really roll back the boost on the FB or bypass it all together in order to keep the signal from the Nienty Orange from overdriving.

    Does this sound normal? Is it just the quality of the pedal? It making me think harder about saving up for the Effectrode Tube Vibe… unless I’m just doing something silly here. Thanks!

    [I haven’t them in combo. Works fine with the MXR ’74 reissue, MojoHand Nebula and EHX Small Stone. The Ninety Orange doesn’t have as much headroom as the Phase 90 but I haven’t had any issues with it. – Bjorn]

  209. Roger Sartori says:

    Hi, Bjorn. Can you give some tips about using the whammy effect? I use it when I want to play, of course, The Blue and Marooned songs. I actually have the Digitech EX-7 Expression Factory to get the whammy effect instead of the Whammy pedal itself. The problem is that it sounds very messy… I don’t know how to explain that sound but it’s kind of tangled on the end. I don’t know if the EX-7 is not that good or where exactly I put it on the pedal setup. I’m using this order: Fender MIM (EMG) – Boss CS-2 – Digitech EX-7 – B.K. Butler Tube Driver – Boss CE-2 (only for Marooned) – Nova Delay – tube amp. I also used the EX-7 after the Tube Driver but it sounds the same to me… Would you recommend trying the original Digitech Whammy instead of the EX-7? Thanks… as always!

    [Hi Roger! I haven’t tried the EX7 so I can’t really tell about that one. I’d place it first or after the compressor. I don’t know what you mean by messy but try not to use too much gain when you’re using it. It’s also a matter of learning the technique and how to control your tone. If you listen closely to both Marooned and The Blue, the tone is fairly clean but there’s a lot of delay, which makes it sound huge. – Bjorn]

  210. Bo says:

    I guess i’m mostly looking for that Short and Sweet sound from the self-released album. Is it the ce2 chorus? And what drive does he use in conjuntion? Bjorn, I’ve room for one more effect on my pedalboard and i’m torn between getting a Leslie sim like the Lex or go with a modulation that might be a little more versatile. Brother, looking back at your 40th anniversary Dark Side Tone tuturial has got me thinking about going that route. I like running my Bassman and Blues jr. in stereo and to do that i’ve been rocking the Trex Replica in stereo to get me there. Where would i want to run the Lex in my chain? Right now i’m Sunface, Wah, Dyna-Comp, Musket, Jam Rattler, Throbak OD, BK Tube Driver, Elec Lady, Phase 90, Sixties Vibe, Volume Pedal, Caitlinbread Echoric, Trex Replica. Where would a wizard as yourself put the Lex? I’ve seen that you’ve set it in different places. I like the sounds i’m getting with the Trex in stereo. Should i just run the Lex right before the Echoric in mono or would you have it last in chain in stereo? Or would you do something completely different and change up the signal path all together? In June i’m getting my rig fitted to a custom pedalboard so i’ve enough time to play around. My favorite sounds happen to be Live at Wembley so it would be real neat to have my pedalboard ready and able for these tones. You rule….we drool…
    Thanks Legend.

    [Hi Bo! It’s a bit hard to tell with Short and Sweet. It’s definitely not a CE2 as the pedal wasn’t out yet at that point. My guess is that it’s mostly the Hiwatt but with the Yamaha mixed very low. Could be a Mistress there as well… sounds like it on the chorus sections. Anyway, a chorus often more versatile than a Leslie sim or flanger but it depends on what tones you want. A chorus is more generic, while a Leslie or a Leslie sim has more character and stands out more. In regards to your setup… I’d place the Lex after the delays. That would be like feeding your guitar into a real Leslie. You could place it after a split on one of the channels in a stereo setup to achieve David’s wet/dry split. Cheers! – Bjorn]

  211. Bo says:

    Hi Bjorn!

    So I’ve been playing around with the idea of getting a Chorus effect. The Analogman mini-chorus sounds really neat on all the video’s I’ve seen. I really hate the 80’s chorus but this one doesn’t seam to have much of that, if any. Also a couple neat Leslie tones can be replicated. I’ve been imagining the Tube Driver paired with subtle chorus. Do you have any opinion on the Analogman version? I’m also interested in the Jam Waterfall. When you say it can produce wild psychedelic swirls I begin to smile. Need this pedal to be a MXR or smaller because i’m plum out of room on my pedalboard.

    Thanks Legend. Keep it Legendary.

    [Hi Bo! Sorry for the late reply. The Mini-Chorus is great. It’s got that CE1/CE2 analog warmth and you can’t go wrong. I recommend the wet/dry mix feature. That’ll allow you to dial in the right amount and avoid those drenched 80s tones :) – Bjorn]

  212. Maksimilijan says:

    Often I have a lot of questions about your articles, but this one really says it all. A great article Bjorn, thank you very much. I really enjoy reading this over and over again. Thank you!

    [Thanks! – Bjorn]

  213. Tom says:

    Thanks Bjorn……got the light OD covered for the later acoustic stuff……I don’t like my delay sound….any recommendations on a replacement delay just for the acoustic side? Like in 2000, OD, delay, what else am I missing…..besides his talent? Can’t seem to get his acoustic tone. Modulation….now I’m just guessing. :)

    Tom

    [His acoustic tone was clean although he might have used some compression with the overdrive, I don’t know. Obviously, the guitar it self makes a difference and the pickups. The Baggs that he used makes a huge difference. – Bjorn]

  214. Bern says:

    Hi Bjorn. I have a general question about chorus and uni-vibe. I know that the answer comes down to personal taste, rig setup etc, but I’m wondering about having a dedicated chorus pedal vs a uni-vibe that has a chorus setting? Just curious as to what you think, given that you’ve experimented with many more of these pedals than I have!

    I tend to use chorus minimally (used “with care” as you say above), just a splash of subtle colour, not all-out 80’s saturation. I’ve been thinking about upgrading my ‘budget’ uni-vibe to something like the Vibe Machine, which of course has a vibe/chorus switch. My question is, do you think a uni-vibe with chorus makes a dedicated chorus pedal redundant, if one uses chorus only subtly anyway? If I want to get close to some Gilmour tones, would I be kicking myself if I got rid of my chorus pedal?

    Anyway, I know the ultimate answer is really my own ears, but would appreciate your input too. Thanks so much for your site – has been beneficial for me in many ways. My two latest pedal acquisitions (in the post, or in progress) are the Musket and the Buffalo FX Booster! I wonder where I first heard about those?

    [Hi Bern! A chorus effect and the term chorus on UniVibes are two different things. A conventional chorus sounds like, well, a chorus, with that shimmery doubling effect. A UniVibe is really just a phaser and it should say vibe/phase, not vibe/chorus. The vibe sounds like the pedal’s out of tune or something, while the chorus/phase sounds like a phaser – not a chorus. So, a UniVibe won’t replace a chorus and those typically 80s tones :) – Bjorn]

  215. Tom says:

    Great site….searched high and low

    I am currently in the process of elimination of picking a low gain transparent overdrives for my acoustic board. I have the basics covered (eq,compression, delay reverb….)

    Do you have any recommendations of effects that will give me that open airy Taylor 712 sound of the later years. I thought phase 45, TC Electronics SCF, Big Muff ….crazy making.

    Any help on a few key pieces to get me any closer…..ideally nothing that will produce a ton of noise trashing my effects loop….any ideas?

    Tom

    [You’ll be using all this on an acoustic? I don’t think I’d use Muffs or fuzz with an acoustic. It works but you’ll get a lot of noise and it’s difficult to avoid that harsh and thin sound. I’d rather go for an overdrive. I’ve used the Fulltone OCD on acoustics and its boosted mid range and slightly darker tone works nicely with acoustics. If you do want to try a Muff then I’d recommend a Sovtek kind of model, like the EHX Bass Muff or Jam Pedals Red Muck. – Bjorn]

  216. Patrick says:

    The ElecLady is my first choice if I have to buy a Flanger today.
    I’ve read your review and saw the video compared with the DEM.
    Mooer pedals are great for they cost, I love the Ensemble King Chorus too!
    But this HB Classic Flanger sounds good. I really don’t love Flangers effects in general.. are not my favorite effects for sure!
    So.. it’s hard to pick up the right one! :D

    Thanks for your work Bjorn.

  217. Patrick says:

    What about the Harley Benton (a Joyo by Thomann, FWIK) Classic Flanger?

    It sounds subtle enough on low settings, but I don’t know how it works in a Gilmour-oriented setup. Well..no mix/blend knob, as most of flanger pedals (stock).

    Thank You and greetings from Italy!

    [I haven’t tried it so I can’t really tell. I also recommend the Mooer ElecLady for those vintage flanger tones :) – Bjorn]

  218. Diego says:

    Hey, Bjorn, what are your opinions on the neo clone? It’s a small clone with the identical circuit in it, and smaller. And unlike the nano, it has a depth control and no volume loss. Would it fit David’s tone perfectly?

    [I tried it years ago and I do remember it having a considerable volume drop. Perhaps I’m wrong but perhaps they’ve updated the circuit since then too, I don’t know. The pedal it self, regardless of the volume drop, sounds very similar to the CE2. A bit smoother and perhaps a bit less dominating, but they’re very similar. – Bjorn]

  219. Ricardo Begalli says:

    Hi Bjorn! Did you tried the Boss CE-3 and the Eletric Mistress Stereo???

    [Yep. The CE3 is very similar to the CE2 although not as warm I think. It has a bit more mid range and, in my opinion, a slightly more processed tone. The Stereo Mistress is more like a very deep chorus with lots of low end and even a slight volume boost when engaged. I don’t think it should be compared to the original and Deluxe Mistress. I highly recommend the Mooer ElecLady and Ensemble King for affordable great sounding clones. – Bjorn]

  220. Fernando says:

    Hi Björn! which phaser you really recommend me? EH Small Stone or MXR script with led? Does the MXR phaser have tone volume drop as the earlier small stone? EH is true Bypass… but MXR?

    [I think the current line of the MXR script led is true bypass actually. Neither the MXR nor the Nano Small Stone has a volume drop. They’re very similar so you could go either way. At the moment I’m using a MojoHand Nebula IV that I’m very happy with :) – Bjorn]

  221. Martin Taylor says:

    Hi Bjørn, I managed to pick up an early 2000 deluxe elec mistress but I need to convert it to work in the UK. It has the internally attached power cable with the 3 pin connection. Do you know the best way to convert it to work in the UK on 230 volts. I have heard if you don’t do it correctly you can change the sound of the mistress.

    [Hmmm… I’m really not the right guy to ask about electronics. I’d take it to an amp tech or post on the Gear Forum. Anyone here have a clue? – Bjorn]

  222. Jacob says:

    Hey Bjorn! You’ve been VERY helpful in the past with my questions so I thought I’d pose another…

    Have you had a chance to try out the Catalinbread Callisto Chrous/Vibe pedal? I have had my heart set on the CE2 for a LONG time, but I keep bumping into the Callisto. People have said it’s very versatile and is based in the CE2 neighborhood.

    I LOVE the warmth of the CE2, and she’s tried and true. Having more versatility in a pedal, like the Callisto, would be nice but I hate to be suckered in. Not to mention the CE2 is a classic and can still be had for a reasonable amount of money.

    Just curious on your thoughts, good sir!

    [I’ve only tried it briefly but it’s definitely similar to the CE2, both based on the MN3007 chip. You have a couple more features, including a handy mix/master control. It sounds a bit more open, with less mid range than the CE2. – Bjorn]

  223. Chip Booth says:

    I have a ’79 small box Mistress, and as pointed out above it thins out the Muff sounds quite a lot. It has the big volume drop as well. Has anyone noticed an improvement in performance with high gain sounds when the standard volume drop mod is applied?

  224. Martin Taylor says:

    Thanks Bjørn, I’m looking for the mistress next and the byoc large beaver which Stephen Gallacher will build and decal for me. Then I just need to wait for your delay guide and the rest of the pedals I can get easily new or on ebay. My white face rat arrived the other day and it sounds amazing with my bd2 and Laney cub. Thanks again for all your help.

    [Glad to hear, Martin! – Bjorn]

  225. Martin Taylor says:

    Hi Bjorn, can you mod a 70’s deluxe electric mistress to stop the volume drop or should I wait until an 80’s or 90’s reissue turns up.

    [All of the Deluxe models have a volume drop. The 70s more than the others perhaps but they all have it. Some prefer to mod it but personally I like it that way and don’t think a unity gain mod sound as good. The drop seems to make the pedal sound warmer and smoother. – Bjorn]

  226. Heath says:

    Thanks Bjorn for such a great site! If you ever get a chance you should check out the Canadian made Retro-Sonic Phaser. It’s basically a improved Phase 90 script 4 stage but with the addition of a level control and a depth control in addition to the standard rate control. I put one on my board three years ago and it’s still on there. I use it all the time playing in a Floyd tribute in Atlantic Canada.

    Cheers,

    Heath

    [Thanks for your kind words, Heath! Haven’t tried their phaser but the compressor and distortion are awesome. – Bjorn]

  227. Tom says:

    Thanks Bjorn, i owe you one
    Cheers

    [:-) – Bjorn]

  228. Tom says:

    Im sorry for all my questions Bjorn :(
    Well, im between a Mooer Eleclady, but I think that I may be able to buy a Deluxe Electric Mistress from ebay, of course the mooer is a lot cheaper than the Mistress, but would it be better to get the Mistress or would the mooer cover easily the EH?
    All the best for you!!

    [No worries, Tom! Actually, I prefer the ElecLady over the current Deluxe. But, if you can get your hands on a early reissue from 99 or early 2000s, then go for it! – Bjorn]

  229. Tom says:

    Emm, I need your opinion on this one: could you say that the eleclady has versatility for more than Gilmour tones? Thank you in advance!! your site rules man

    [Depends on what tones you’re looking for. I’m using it all the time for my own tones and it can easily nail stuff like Van Halen and other flanger users. – Bjorn]

  230. Tom says:

    I hope i dont sound like an idiot, but to my ears the Electric Mistress sounds like a chorus and a flanger, so: is the electric mistress a flanger and a chorus?.
    Well, obviously im not an expert with flangers haha
    Cheers :)

    [It’s a flanger. Chorus is usually much more subtle but they’re both delay effects with various degree of pitch modulation. Flanger has a more metallic jet kind of tone. – Bjorn]

  231. Brad Roller says:

    Yeah I think I sent them an email about that and the other two emails were about possibly tweaking one personally to work with a big muff but maybe that pissed them off? Idk! Anyways thanks for your advice and time you take out of your day to reply! It really means a lot to me and others who appreciate the site and you! God bless!

    [Cheers, Brad! – Bjorn]

  232. Brad Roller says:

    You know I tried but they ignored two seperAte emails! Isn’t that rediculous?! I can find usable tones with it but I gotta tweak it a lot! I’d like to try the deluxe anyways would a 78 model be ok?? Thanks for helping buddy!

    [Hmmm… that’s too bad and not very customer friendly. The late 70s and early 80s Deluxe will do the job :) – Bjorn]

  233. Brad Roller says:

    Hello Bjorn! Quick question I have a Hartman flanger that I think I screwed up…I screwed with the trim pots like an idiot so…with that said I’m looking at a 1978 electric mistress deluxe on ebay and I was wondering if that’d be a good choice and also if the fx doctor does a good job fixing the volume drop? If you have heard of him! Thanks buddy!

    [Never heard of the FX Doctor but in regards to the Harman I’d send them an e-mail and ask for help on how to reset the trim pots. – Bjorn]

  234. Sebastián says:

    HI B!!
    Your site IS amazing, congratulations.
    Y would like to ask YOU if there’s a great difference between the boss CS2 and the CS3 pedal, in terms of achieve the GILMOUR sound?? Do YOU think THAT IS a good deal to buy a vintage CS2?

    [Thank you, Sebastian! The CS2 does sound noticeably warmer and more dynamic but you can definitely cover the tones with the CS3 as well. – Bjorn]

  235. Denis says:

    Hi Bjorn, I finally got the Byoc large Beaver… For sure is definitely a different beast from anything I’ve ever pluged my guitar into. After trying it out one vision comes to mind, don’t know if you have ever seen the the movie Duel from the late 1970s by Steven Spielberg about a terrified motorist stalked by a dirty loud tanker truck… Well, the Large Beaver sounds just like that tanker trunk. Lol… Anyways the reason I bought it in the first place is to replicate that Comfortably Numb sound I’ve always loved. As I stated before my setup is G&L sa emg, cs2, mooer phaser,musket, LG, Bd2 Keeley mod, deluxe electric mistress 90s version, dd20, laney cub stack. After trying a several combinations I found that the Lg and the bd2 dont replicate the CN very well. The musket > Lg combo actually works better but is not quite the same as CN. . . I saw a video posted on the buyer’s gear guide under distortion pedals, that Matt posted. He has the shreddy lunar module with the Large Beaver for the CN tone and I thought it sounded pretty good. My question= what booster would work best for a bedroom set-up for the LG?

    [I think the LB and BD2 works nicely together but it’s always a matter of combining the right settings on both pedals and your amp. You may also want to check out a TC Electronics Spark Booster for an all clean boost. – Bjorn]

  236. AuditoryDriving says:

    Hi Bjorn!

    I wonder to ask you what is your opinion on the EHX Worm (the XO version)! Most of clips that I found were not very informative as people tended to crank the rate and all effect sounded similar…

    I am after the “Breathe” intro sound, intending to use this as a basis :) I also have a small clone which i LOVE (and this is why i feel on the safe side with the worm) and a T-rex tonebug phaser which i absolutely not like (i really cannot believe that it sounds so bad and that it is so hard to dial in a sound… but this is only my personal opinion). So my thought would be the following:

    Scenario 1. THe phaser in the worm sounds univibe-ish enough – I m super happy!!!! -end of story
    Scenario 2. It doesn t sound appropriate – then I could maybe combine the tremolo of the worm with my T-rex tonebug phaser to emulate the throbbing. Does this make sense?

    I d appreciate an opinion. Unfortunately, I m on a budget so a real univibe is out of question.

    And a final question – ever tried the Rocktron Hypnotic Flange? I ve heard it s more on the subtle side – but if it can sufficiently mimic the animals tone… man… :)

    Thanks a million in advance Bjorn and sorry for all these questions… :)

    [I’ve never tried the Worm myself but judging by the clips I think there are other pedals out there that would do a much better job at replicating phaser and UniVibe tones. Are you familiar with the Mooer pedals? Check out their Ninety Phase, which is a very good clone of the MXR Phase 90. It does a nice UniVibe-ish tone as well for Breathe. They also have a decent tremolo, if that is your thing. If you’re only looking for a phaser, then check out the excellent EHX Small Stone Nano as well. – Bjorn]

  237. Mike Walters says:

    Looking at purchasing an Electric Mistress. There are 2 models that I’m seeing available from places like Sweetwater, etc;
    The Stereo Electric Mistress & The Deluxe Electric Mistress.
    ARe there any preferences?

    [The Deluxe. The stereo and Neo doesn’t have much in common with the original :) It’s also worth checking out the Mooer Eleclady. – Bjorn]

  238. Roger Sartori says:

    Sorry for my total confusion… my first question was about the Boss Flanger BF-2 and on the second comment I was with the phaser on my mind too, and you answered that… my question now is back to the Boss FLANGER BF-2.

    [I don’t see a question about the BF2 but anyway… In terms of David’s tones I think it’s a bit too flanger-ish. It’s closer to the MXR, which has that typical jet sound that works great for Van Halen etc but not for Gilmour. The Deluxe Mistress or the Mooer ElecLady is a better choice, I think. In regards to what sounds you’ll get to cover with a flanger, I would say that it’s quite limited. David used the Mistres during the Animals tour and it’s also sparsely used on his 78 solo album, Wall and Final Cut but that’s about it. Still though, nothing really beats an Electric Mistress for your cleans or Big Muff tones :) – Bjorn]

  239. Roger Sartori says:

    I was thinking about having a Boss Flanger PH-2, but I would like to know your oppinion related to Gilmour tone. Is it good?

    [You mean phaser? The Ph2 isn’t the best choice for David’s tones. Too modern sounding and closer to the Phase 100. There are lots of great sounding and cheap 4-stage phasers on the market, like the Mooer Phase Ninety and of course the MXRs. I also recommend the Whirlwind Orange Box, which is a true clone of the original Phase 90. – Bjorn]

  240. Denis says:

    Hi, just bought the dd20 .. I had to go with a delay as your sound on sound review of soycd said. Plus I bought a Large Beaver Rams head and the moer orange phaser. How would you place the order of pedals. Cs2- musket – LG – bd2 -phaser- EM flanger- dd20? I noticed by placing the bd2 off position after after the cs2 it does make the signal cleaner ( perhaps is the buffer)What can I place there instead to have the same effect? Thanks for all your help. Because of you my pedalboard is almost finished. Will post pic in gallery soon.

    [Hi Denis! Your chain looks fine but try to experiment with different combos. The CS2, BD2 and DD20 all have buffers so it shouldn’t matter where you place them but there might be some conflicting impedance going on, which is why you get a difference… I also recommend having the DD20 on a separate power supply and not in a daisy chain. It sounds much cleaner and less noisy that way. – Bjorn]

  241. Roger Sartori says:

    About the Boss Flanger BF-2?

    [What? – Bjorn]

  242. Roger Sartori says:

    What about the Dunlop Phase 45? Is it too different from the 90 model? I never played with a 90 but I have a 45 clone. Althoug it is well constructed unity I confess I don’t like it very much with my Drivegate DG-1 or my Ram’s Head clone… but it’s fantastic for that Breathe tone!

    [The Phase 45 sounds more like a very mild UniVibe than a Phase 90. I love it and it has a very unique tone. Have you tried placing it in front of your gain pedals? – Bjorn]

  243. Denis says:

    Hi Bjorn, I’m using a g&l with SA emg pickups boss cs2, musket, boss bd2 Keleey electric mistress 90s version, ibanez de7, cub stack. I notice that DE7 is clogging the signal. If I remove it from the chain, the tone is much clearer. Is this because is a buffer pedal or perhaps is just not a good pedal in combo with others. I really want to replace it with another Delay but there are many to pick from. What do you suggest would go well with what I have?

    [The DE7 might be messing up the chain for a number of reasons. The buffer isn’t all that and the delay effect it self tend to distort a bit. Especially the echo feature. It’s an OK pedal but I think there are better options on the market. I don’t think you can get better value than the TC Flashback. It sounds great and has a wide range of different tones. If you want a single mode pedal then check out the MXR Carbon Copy, MojoHand Recoil or simply a Boss DD7. – Bjorn]

  244. Tom says:

    Hey, I was considering to buy the new electric mistress but after reading this i think i’ll get the mooer, its cheaper than the ehx, but makes any noise ? Thanks

    [The Mooer is very silent. – Bjorn]

  245. Pete says:

    I just found the review and answered that answered my question.
    Fastest response EVER!!! :D

    [LOL! – Bjorn]

  246. Pete says:

    Hey Bjorn!!
    Excellent article, (as usual).
    What settings would you suggest on the Mooer Audio Eleclady?

    • Bryan says:

      I’m also hunting for these settings because I just cannot get Wall Live sounds out of it due to the rather limiting knobs..

  247. Jose M. Carmona says:

    Hey Bjorn!! Which phaser should I go for, MOOER Ninety Orange or EHX Small Stone? Which one would you recommend?

    Also I’m buying the TC Electronic Flashback X4, do you think I will get a nice analog sound out of it? I really need a delay with tap tempo, and storing 3 presets is really useful too!

    By the way, you have a wonderful website ;)

    [Thank you, Jose! Both phasers sound great. The Small Stone has a smooth, slightly milder tone, while the Ninety is closer to the Phase 90, with a darker tone. You could go either way. The Flashback has a few “analog” modes that sound pretty nice. Even the 2290 digital setting sounds warm and analog-ish. Great delay pedal! – Bjorn]

  248. Pete says:

    Bjorn,
    You need to check out the Strymon Mobius, (when you find the time.) It does the chorus, flanger, phaser, tremolo, vibe, rotary, and so much more. (You can use the destroyer function to get the Wish You Were Here played on a radio sound you hear on the recording.)
    It may seem expensive, but when you consider how much all those pedals would cost, well the math works out.
    I know you use the Strymon Lex, (a great pedal), but that’s in here too.
    You would love this pedal.
    I’m having a blast with mine.

    [Yes, I haven’t tried that one yet. It’s on the list :) – Bjorn]

  249. Keith says:

    Hey Bjorn, Lindy has never mentioned his high output pups to me, perhaps he’s strictly a vintage guy, but He DOES make a set using the #43 wire the Seymour uses in the SSL-5, that allows for such an over wind, and produces a 10k, or higher bridge pickup. But as you know, as pickups get hotter, they sacrifice high end chime but I guess there are ways around that. But just wanted you to know what’s available. Let me know about the emails mentioned in the previpus post, and I’m sure we’ll find a perfect set for you.
    Keith

    [Hi Keith. Yeah, I got your e-mails and I think I answered to one at least. I’m swamped with everything we need to do with the new Airbag release. Only a few weeks away… I’ll go over my mails again in case I missed anything. Cheers :) – Bjorn]

  250. Brad Roller says:

    I got you man. Awesome. Im really stuck on the WYWH and live at wembley tones at the moment. But anyhow Im glad to know everyones prefrences change time to time haha I look forward to maybe hearing your ’84 tones in a video on youtube or something. Nice talking to you again Bjorn. Thanks for your help and your hard work on this site! Idk where I would be without it! btw the Whirlwind phaser sounds soooo good. Rock on brother, and God bless!

    Brad

    [Thank you, Brad :) – Bjorn]

  251. Keith says:

    Are you guys speaking of the black Boss Heavy Metal? Remember the times I’ve said I’ve owned many pedal, but never used them? Well, in perhaps the greatest band I’ve ever played in,( regular eotation on the biggest alternative rock station in the state), I used an HM 1, through a JC 120, modified so that it’s stereo chorus was diveded between two cabinets, instead of the two internal speakers. With the modded amp, 2 2×12 cabs, and that HM1, it was one of the best sounding rigs I’ve ever had. Hard to believe I loved a solid state amp, and a Boss distortion pedal so much. I used that rig live for 5 years!
    Peace, Love, Gilmourish, and waxing nostalgic! Keith

  252. Brad Roller says:

    Oh yeah. Do you own a Heavy Metal pedal like Davids from that time? Or will you just use a muff? I do like that period also. I really like that live concert in 84, during the about face tour. He tore that guitar up during comfortably numb! Coulda done without the sax during theres no way out of here…lol but that was the 80s for ya! lol

    [Ha ha, yeah the 80s was a bit bad taste… :) I do own a HM2 but I’ve never really figured it out so I’m sticking to the Muff. David used both during that period. – Bjorn]

  253. Brad Roller says:

    Hey Bjorn. I am going to get a Whirlwind Orange Box. It is supposively VERY close to the original script, made by the original people. It also features true bypass, led, and Boss style 9 volt adaptor. A guy on youtube compared it to the script reissue and an original vintage phase 90. I personally couldn’t hear the difference in them all. Maybe small differences, but those are VERY small and I could hardly hear the difference. I wanted to know your opinion. Have you tried it? BTW, its weird cause, for the longest time I have always used a flanger with my muff, and I hardly ever used overdrive. NOW, here lately I haven’t been using my flanger at all. I usually use my muff by itself or with a rt-20 sim. I also use overdrive for alot of my stuff now too, and I have fallen in love with Davids darkside univibe and WYWH phase 90 tones. Do you ever experience this? Is it a phase? lol Just wondering. Again, thank you for all your work on here and all the questions you answer from us. You are WAY more patient than I would be buddy. lol Just shows what an awesome person you are. God Bless Bjorn and keep up the good work!

    Brad

    [Hey Brad! Yeah, I have different preferences all the time. Right now I’m very much into David’s 84 tones… The Whirlwind pedals are great and, besides having true bypass and led, they’re as close as you’ll get to the originals and current MXR Custom Shops. Cheers! – Bjorn]

  254. Operario says:

    Hi Bjorn. I have 2 questions for you, perhaps you can help me out with them.

    1 – The pedal Gilmour used in the beginning of the first verse of Money, that’s a Tremolo, right? Can you recommend me a good one? Also, where should it go in the chain (my chain ATM is described below, in the next question)?

    2 – I’ve been thinking of getting a volume pedal lately. I’m trying to decide whether I should get a buffered one or not. In fact, I know nothing about Volume pedals, not even if there actually are buffered ones. Anyway, my signal chain will be:

    Guitar –> Univibe –> Fuzz –> Booster –> Iron Bell –> Phaser –> (Volume Pedal) –> Delay

    Since I use CS69 PU’s and ALL of these pedals are true bypass, I’m guessing it might be a good idea to throw a buffer in there to compensate for signal loss. That’s when I thought of getting a buffered volume pedal. Will it be a good thing?

    Thank you very much Bjorn. You’re the man!

    [Sorry for my late reply…
    1. Yes, it’s a tremolo. Any model will do I guess. I’m not that experienced with tremolo since I rarely use one. Tremolo usually goes in front of the gains.
    2. You can’t go wrong with Ernie Ball. I’m using the JR for passive pickups. You can drive over it with a truck :)
    I think you’re better off with a dedicated buffer. The CostaLab or TrueTone buffers are small and does wonders for your tones. I haven’t tried a buffered volume pedal but I think a dedicated buffer is much more efficient than a Boss or similar. Hope this helped :) – Bjorn]

  255. Pedro says:

    Hi, first of all thanks for your help with the website, it has really help me out!

    I have a problem with my phase90 (normal, not script) with the distortion, it “colapses” and sounds like the speaker has exploted. This happends when the wave of the efect is on the edges, the major problem is in the low edge of the wave. I have realized that this happends also with the amp without the effect but it is very very subtle, and with the effect the problem intensifies like 1000%! (on effect looper it’s even worse!).
    I will make a maintenance to the amp, but i had been reading about a moddification on the phase 90 called R28 MOD that aparently gives you more of that script tone and handles better this problem with distortion.

    If you know the R28 MOD, whats your opinion of it? Later I will buy the Electronic Orange Moon-Vibe MkII, but what do you recomend me for now?

    Thanks for everything and your time!
    Pedro

    [Hi Pedro. The way you describe the “problem” I’d focus more on the amp settings, what pickups you use and what other pedals you combine with the amp and the Phase 90. A dark and muffled tone will be amplified with filter and phase effects, because they sweep through the lower frequencies as well. Could you tell me what amp you have, its settings and what pickups you have. – Bjorn]

  256. Matteo says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    well I’ve bought a Phase 90 74 Reissue, and I have to admit it sounds great, I have been using a Small Stone Nano for a couple of years now and I was curious about doing an A B test between the two beasts.
    I don’t know if it’s just my imagination, but is it possible that switching between the twos could have a collateral effect on how the delay sounds? I mean like if the change of pedal had an effect on the feedback amount of the digital delay…using one pedal the repetitions blends one way and then with the other kinda different. Maybe it’s just my mind.
    Anyway I noticed that the Phase 90 when in the pedalboard “pushes” a bit the overall sound…a sort of slightly volume boost…did you noticed something like that too?
    Thanks,
    Cheers!

    [I haven’t A/B tested the two so I can’t tell how they interact or operate side by side but the SS is true bypass, which doesn’t do anything with your signal. The P90 74 however is hardwire bypass, which means that the signal is flowing through the pedal’s cirquit even when the pedal is off. Without being an expert I would guess that this can affect the delay and it’s also possible that the qircuit has a hint of boost to compensate for the high end loss you get from hardwire bypass. Either way, the P90 will colour your signal when it’s off. The SS won’t. – Bjorn]

  257. aggeloskrv says:

    Hi Bjorn!
    I am the owner of a MXR 1974 vintage phase 90.
    Is there any settings you can suggest that will resemble the sound of univibe in songs like Us and Them and Any colour you like?

    Thank you very much!!!

    [For Us & Them, Breathe etc try around noon and for ACYL about 3 o’clock :) – Bjorn]

  258. Flavio says:

    Hey Bjorn, how are you?

    I’m writing just to add that some time ago I spoted a cheap $40 chinese chorus from NUX (model CH3) at ebay and decided to give it a try. I have to say I’m quite impressed with it, metal case, true bypass and a mix knob, a huge plus as you said in an effect that is so dominating as the Chorus. I was thiking of just give it a try and then sell to someone but now it stayed in my pedal board. It’s always great when we try some cheap pedals and it sound as great as a more expensive one.

    Cheers!

    [Thanks for the tip! I haven’t tried any of the NUX pedals myself but there’s a lot happening in the budged segment these days, not least the Mooer pedals. – Bjorn]

  259. aggeloskrv says:

    Hi Bjorn!

    I would like to set my delay (empress vintage modified) for the song Run Like Hell!
    I would like to play the guitar 3 (the chords of the song).
    Could you tell me the delay time and repeats (and whatever you think that probably helps me) for this part of Run Like Hell?

    Sorry for my English..

    Thank you very much!!!

    [I don’t have the Empress myself, so I can’t help you with any specific settings. The delay time is 380ms single tap but you can also blend that with triplets, like David does. – Bjorn]

  260. Keith says:

    Off topic, but I wanted to tell you that I took Cymbaline back to Tom for a little minor surgery. This may be something that benefits all. When I first got my Rodriguez, it played better than any Strat I’d ever played, and has unheard off resonance, and sustain. However, being a brand new guitar, ( not store new, but just finished new.), I found that after 8 months of string pressure, the neck settled in, and I noticed that the action had risen just a slight bit, and I’d had a minor buzz on the G string on the 13th-15th fret, that disappeared because the action had changed. 1 day at the shop, 1/4 turn of the truss, and a flat diamond thingy, that is used to fine tune fret dressing, and I’m amazed that it’s playing better than when I got it, and the G string, often a problem string, is now perfect. Also got him to change the pup height from Fender specs, to his ears specs, and as I suspected, the guitar even sounds better, and it was already the best sounding Strat I’ve played. So, after you’ve had a really new guitar for 6 months, or a year, it’s likely to change a bit, and it’s a good idea to re set up the guitar, or have someone do it for you. A little TLC can go a very long way!
    Peace, Keith

    [Wise words. I always recommend to perform a setup at least twice a year. Either learn how to adjust the truss rod, action and pickup height and set the intonation or get a pro to do the job. As you’ve experienced, string pressure, humidity and temperature changed does affect the wood and tension. It’s also a wise thing to experiment with different setups and find the sweetspot that both fits the guitar and your playing. Factory setups are always a great starting point it’s the small adjustments that makes the whole difference. – Bjorn]

  261. Keith says:

    Thanks Stephen, I know you got my back. Bjorn, although we’ve never met, you were responsible for the start of a great friendship with someone I think of like a brother, Stephen Ford, and the site haz given me a rather hard headed nephew, Will. Thanks for the site, all your hard work, and for my two good friends, three counting you. We gotta band together and work on young Williams vintage gear obsession though, Ha-ha! Just kidding William!
    Peace, Love, and Gilmourish, THE POSTECUTIONER!

    [Ha ha, thanks Keith :) – Bjorn]

  262. bob cussen says:

    hi bjorn,

    i did ask this earlier but i never had a reply and i think that was because i gave you a list of my pedals and asked what would be the best order to put them in etc. but i since understand you will not answer these types of questions anymore.

    so please allow me to to ask a question of your set up in the hope that it will give me an idea as to how to set my board up.

    so can you tell me your pedal order that you would choose to reproduce the pulse/ delicate PERIOD. particullary on the turning away and comfortably numb/ turning away tone or there abouts. i would be very gratefull for your suggestions.

    as a matter of interest, my pedals are , redbox wirlwind compressor, ocd, keeley 808 mod, throbak od boost, electric mistress, mxr analogue delay, tc electronic nova delay;

    i also have ibanez 50/50 starfield sterio valve amp circa 1970 i think. 2 2X12 carvin steve vie lagacy cabinets fitted with vintage 30 greenback speakers, jmp 1, and tc elecrtonic G force inc artist card.

    any help will be greatly received

    kind regards

    bob

    [Hi Bob. I’m sorry but I don’t have the capacity to answer any e-mails anymore. All correspondence should be made here :) Based on your pedals, I’d use the compressor for cleans and overdrives, the OCD for overdrive rhythms and bluesy solos and the Nova Delay for all the delays, using the 2290 bank. You might also want to use the ThroBak boost for volume and clean boost. As for distortion, I’d go for either a RAT, which is an extremely versatile distortion or a Sovtek Big Muff. Now, these aren’t made anymore so you can get the current EHX Bass Muff (very close) or a clone, like the excellent Wren And Cuff Box of War, Jam Pedals Red Muck or Blackout Effectors Musket. You’ll find reviews here on the site. See this feature for some tips on overdrives and distortions and this one for some general tips on setting up a pedal board. Hope this helped. – Bjorn]

  263. Stephen Ford says:

    Hmmm Keith raises a good point…
    Bjorn, a thought for a future article….
    May be hard to get your hand on a bunch as the best delays often come with a pretty high price tag but still could be nice. The Echorec and the El Capistan, Eventide Time Factor, Strymon Timeline, Boss DD-20, T-Rex Replica…etc :)

    [Tell you what… If you you and Keith send me all of those pedals, to keep of course, I’ll be happy to do a Gear Guide for you… LOL! I have one planned for the autumn. Testing pedals like mad :) Cheers! – Bjorn]

  264. Keith says:

    No gear guide on delays, so I put this here. Hey Bjorn, I got a message from Will telling me Sam Ash was taking delivery of the Echorec this week, so I called my favorite manager, and she said when checking the computer that my store has one coming in sometime between Thursday, and Tuesday. Being sure that they’d raise the price, I found that they have stuck with the $230.00 price, but she gave me a discount, and I now have my name on their first Echorec, and including tax, I’m getting it for less, and don’t have to deal with Catalinbread, who were very rude when I called to buy one. Had they been nice to me, I’d already have one, but it would have cost more, and I get to play it first!!! Glad I waited!!!
    Peace, Love, and Gilmourish, Keith

    [Love to hear your verdict on it, Keith! – Bjorn]

  265. Zac says:

    6:40 onwards, its subtle but im sure its there!

    [Hard to tell but I don’t think that’s a Mistress. Could be the ambience in the hall or the compression on the YouTube clip that’s causing the effect but it doesn’t sound like a flanger. From what I can see on the pictures, there doesn’t appear to be a Leslie in his rig either. He did use the 1999-2005, which featured a Cornish chorus pedal. Could be that one… Again, hard to tell. – Bjorn]

  266. George says:

    Bjorn,
    I have the Hartman flanger but I was wondering what settings you recommend to get the most authentic Gilmour tones? Like you mentioned, I have been unable to find any useable tones with my Hoof fuzz on at the same time. Love the site, and I visit it often!
    George

    [I don’t own one my self and I haven’t tried it long enough to remember any settings. I didn’t quite get the tones I wanted with Muffs but it sounds quite nice on cleans and milder overdrives. Try setting the speed and colour at about 1 or 2 o’clock and the depth as low as you can, without the tone fading out. – Bjorn]

  267. Michael says:

    Have you ever tried the BYOC Analog Flanger? I’m interested in buying that one, but I was wondering what you’d suggest. If you have, should I get that or the ElecLady?

    [Never tried it, so I can’t really tell. The ElecLady is great though! – Bjorn]

  268. Zac says:

    BJORN!!! exciting news, i was listening to a version of AHM from 2008 with David on guitar and i noticed, although he is using his Pete Cornish board (looks and sounds to me like the on an island tour board) but during a section i can hear the electric mistress! I’m sure of it! i found it odd as there wasn’t even a Leslie on AHM originally and i didn’t think his current board had any kinds of modulation? but its definitely there… there’s been a few rumors going around he might be recording… do you think we will hear the mistress again? :D

    [Hi Zac! Sorry for the late reply. I haven’t managed to find the place where he’s using the Mistress. Could you please send me a link and point out the timing? Thanks! – Bjorn]

  269. Matteo says:

    P.s I am gonna mod the phase 90 to make it true bypass and install an external power input (boss style) and a LED

  270. Matteo says:

    Ho Bjorn
    I’ve been a faithful Small Stone nano user for a couple of years, but from what I’ve heard and seen, the Phase 90 74 reissue can handle the gains before it way better…the E.Harmonix pedal tends to distort a bit when placed after a powerboost… What’s your thought?
    Thanks!
    See ya,
    Matteo

    [The Small Stone is a bit milder and transparent than the Phase 90 and therefore can sound a bit thin with overdrives and distortions. I haven’t experienced that the Small Stone distorts with the Colorsound but the Colorsound can bleed out a bit on lower amp volume, which is quite normal with silicon transistors. Perhaps that’s what you hear? – Bjorn]

  271. Eric B. says:

    Hi Bjorn, amazing site you have here! I agree with you about the mid range and break up problems on the block logo Phase 90. I try to compensate by adjusting my guitar’s volume and tone controls when the pedal is engaged.

    Have you tried the MXR CSP-101SL Custom Shop Script Phase 90? MXR seems to be marketing it as 1974 reissue, but with an LED and power jack and no hand-wiring. How close do they sound to each other? The power jack option would help for my setup.

    Thank you!
    Eric

    [Thank you Eric! There is a difference. The 74 reissue feature hardwire bypassing, which rolls off the top end considerably. The phasing sounds amazing though. The 101SL has true bypass switching, which doesn’t colour the tone at all. – Bjorn]

  272. Giulio Mazzotta says:

    i have made R28 and C1 Cap.
    Here i ha ve made a demo with my rig for modulations…(Mistress-Mxr90-Small stone-etc)

    You can hear MXR 90 modded.

    [Thanks! – Bjorn]

  273. Yoel says:

    Hi Bjorn!

    You mentioned up above that the Mooer Ensemble King is based more on the CE-5 and not the CE-2. Well, I decided to pop one open and compare it to the CE-2 schematic. Strangely enough, the schematics are extremely similair, and the Mooer also features the MN3007 BBD chip, which is found in the CE-2, but not in the CE-5 (Boss never used the MN3007 in their CE-5s, because of the higher battery drainage, they used MN3207 and MN3101 in the very first years of their production, and then they went digital. An analog CE-5 is quite rare and sells at a high price). I believe that the Mooer is much closer to a CE-2 than a CE-5; the name may have you believe otherwise, but the original CE-1 was called the Chorus Ensemble. They only started using that name again when the CE-5 came out. Not to mention when I heard an A/B a friend had sent me who owns both pedals, it was very difficult to find the difference when I closed my eyes. Anyways, that’s enough of my ranting, just thought I’d share my findings for you all if you are considering buying a CE-2 or similair.

    [Thanks for the update, Yoel. I didn’t get the chance to A/B test the two and I guess the guitar and amp I used for testing all the Mooers, wasn’t doing all the pedals justice. Thanks! – Bjorn]

  274. Gabe Aguirre says:

    Looks like martin provided the link, it’s also interesting to read the “uni-vibe” mod too, however I am perfectly happy with my Phase 90 now, hope this helps some people out!

  275. Sebastien says:

    Hello Bjorn,

    I’m about to buy what seems to be a 99′ reissue deluxe electric mistress… with the old style knobs that the current one does not have anymore… but, I’m hesitating because of the Dc adaptor, which is not attached to the pedal (like the V4 version should have), but that you have to plug into the pedal (and then you can unplug also).

    Does it seem like a fake V4 ? like a V5 with added knobbies?

    Regards,

    Sebastien

    [Obviously, since I haven’t examined the pedal my self I can’t tell for sure but my 98-99 also has the separate 24V adapter. If it looks genuine, then I guess it is. If you get a chance to play it, you should hear a liquidy, fairly bright flanging. There’s a very subtle volume drop but the low end is well balanced and the overall effect blends well with the pickups. The current reissue is considerably darker, slightly noisier and has a noticeable low end boost. – Bjorn]

    • nkmcfrln says:

      The hockey puck style knobs aren’t something new. You find them on the originals. They weren’t always made with the same knobs.

      You don’t have to leave this website to find a picture of an original Electric Mistress with hockey puck style knobs. Go look at the picture provided for the Electric Mistress shoot-out.

      Interesting that an identical chip is noisier housed in the V5 as opposed to the V4.

  276. martin says:

    a guide for the r-28 mod for mxr block-logo phaser90 can be found here: http://stinkfoot.se/archives/975. it is really easy to do and it sounds quite nice.

    [Thanks! – Bjorn]

  277. Gabe Aguirre says:

    Hey Bjorn, great guide, I just wanted to share with people who may have bought the Phase 90 (new, not-script model) that there is a simple guide to severing the “R28″ resistor on the Phase 90’s board, it apparently stops the re-feeding of the signal back through the phase circuit, and hence gives a more subtle, script-logo phase sound. I’m super glad I finally did it, I can actually use that pedal now, great to have that and a Micro-vibe to choose from. Thanks!

    [Thanks Gabe! Do you have a link for the tutorial? – Bjorn]

  278. Ivan says:

    Hi Bjorn!
    What about MXR Flanger?

    [You can tweak them for a similar tone as the Mistress but the MXR isn’t as liquidy and open sounding. I think it works better for rock and those typical 70s tones than Gilmour’s tones. – Bjorn]

  279. Jonah says:

    Good evening M. Riis,

    I’m new on this website. I’m really curious about the Mooer Elec Lady.

    But, as you mentioned the the range knob was unusable, and the color knob better used at 10 o’clock maximum, did you find a sweet spot for the “The Wall” and “Final Cut” settings… i’ve seen the video with the “Animal album setting”: great!

    Thank you, and heve a good night!

    [Sorry for my late reply, Jonah. I usually set the pedal with the range all the way off, the colour seems to have a sweetspot right between 9 and 10 o’clock and the speed between 2 and 3 o’clock. Perhaps closer to 3. It’s a tad bright with distortions and Muffs especially so you might want to roll down the tone on the Muff just a hair. – Bjorn]

  280. Uwe says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    thanks for your answer, I think I’m gonna buy a vintage Electric Mistress .

    i’ve few electric mistresses to sell on specialized websites, I know how to date them with the serial numbers on the pots.

    So what would be your choice between 181 – 84 green mistress, or an recent model. Speaking of a recent model, what do you call 90’s model? because the first 90’s RI model was made in 1999, jjudging by this site (http://www.metzgerralf.de/elekt/stomp/mistress/electric-mistress-history.shtml). So what do you call 90’s RI? Just the pedals made between 1999 and 2000?

    Thanks for your help, i’m a bit lost.

    Regards,
    Uwe

    [Hi Uwe. Sorry for my late reply. Personally I prefer the late 90s Deluxe over any other Mistress. Compared to the late 70s model, this one has a more defined character kind of a mix between the super watery 9V/18V original and the MXR jet type of flanger. It’s also much less noisy than the original. Compared to the current reissue, the late 90s has a more open tone with less mid range and lower end, which makes it easier to blend with gain effects especially. I’m not sure what the correct model reference is. – Bjorn]

    • Nick says:

      The V4 and V5 Deluxe Electric Mistresses both use the RD5106A BBD. Aside from the power plug the schematics are identical. What accounts for the difference in tone between the two that you’re describing?

      • Bjorn says:

        I haven’t studied the schematics or opened up any of the units. I’m not a technical expert. What I do know is that the ’99 version that I have, and have used since I bought it new in 99, sounds lush, fairly bright and nicely balanced. The current big box Deluxe, and I’ve tried a few, sounds considerably darker, more mids and low end and the flange sweep is not as wide. You tell me why it’s different :)

      • Tony Samperi says:

        I totally agree with Bjorn: I recently bought a latest version of the deluxe and I set the controls like Bjorn’s comparison EHX vs Mooer. No way. My EHX was so darker, and to get the flangy sound I had to mess with controls for a while. I was so disappointed that I sold it immediatly. I bought a Mooer Eleclady: that’s much better.

        • nkmcfrln says:

          So if the tone is warmer with more mids and low end, and the sweep is not as wide, that’s a bad thing?

          A noisier BBD is preferable to a quieter one that’s more focused?

          Both re-issues use the RD5106A. The originals used the SAD1024A. The components for both re-issues are identical.

          Bjorn is not getting the same tone as David Gilmour, Andy Summers or Alex Lifeson with the 99 re-issue.

          You are not “nailing” the tone of the originals with either of the re-issues.

          The Mooer Eleclady is brighter than the original Deluxe Electric Mistress so that means you should chose the Mooer over the warmer sounding original Deluxe Electric Mistress?

          You are not “nailing” the tone of Bjorn’s 99 Deluxe Electric Mistress with the Mooer.

          Are you trying to nail Bjorn’s tone or Gilmour’s?

          • Bjorn says:

            I think you’re perhaps missing the point here. I have never said that I nail David’s Mistress tone 100% with my ’99 Deluxe. The reason I use it, is because I think it sounds better than the original Mistress models and the current Deluxe. Maybe that’s Tony’s point as well, I don’t know. Whether or not one likes the current Deluxe depends on taste.

          • Tony Samperi says:

            It’s pointless to talk about components. I evaluate a pedal by hearing it and sound depends on the amp too (I have a Fender BJ III btw). With the EHDM I experienced a high loss of volume and I didn’t like its sound. So I chose the eleclady over the EHDM. But I have to try some replica of the first mistress still. Cheers

            • Riccardo says:

              I’ve just bought a v5 version, and i was feeling a big volume drop and quite a dark sound, so i opened up and found a trimpot which in the scchematics it’s refferred as “mix” and by adjusting it maxed out i’ve merged the volume drop and also it sounds a lot more brighter (in a good way) to my ears.
              But i’m no technician, anyway check out this page

              http://www.metzgerralf.de/elekt/stomp/mistress/align.shtml#4

              • Thomas Hagemeijer says:

                Hi Riccardo, I think I’m about to buy a V5. is the volume drop intense? and how does that trimpot work?

              • Tony Samperi says:

                Ciao Riccardo, scusa ma non avevo visto questo post…V5 sarebbe deluxe nuovo? Comunque alla fine ho preso un Hartman ed è una figata spaziale…con quello riesco a riprodurre fedelmente i suoni di The wall Live 1980. Saluti

  281. Josh says:

    Thanks man

  282. Josh says:

    Hey, I just bought a mooer ensemble king….any advice on what settings to use for pulse?

    [I’d set the level around noon or 1:00 and both the rate and depth at about 11:00. Tweak your way around that. – Bjorn]

  283. uwe says:

    Oh, by the way,

    Talking about Phasers, Have you tried the BYOC Phase 90 clone? Why haven’t you put it in the review?

    regards,

    uwe

    [Yep, it sounds very close to the original. Can’t include every pedal :) – Bjorn]

  284. uwe says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    I was about to buy a Hartman Analog Flanger off ebay, when I read your review.
    What is worrying me is the fact that it “makes the heavier sounding Muffs sound quite thin and fizzy”.

    Is it a better choice to order a Mooer eleclady? Does that pedal make the heavier Muffs sound correctly (not fizzy)?

    What would be my best choice for the ” Wall” tones with flanger, knowing that I’d like to have a True Bypass pedal , not the 80’s EH electric mistress.

    Regards,
    Uwe

    [Obviously, these reviews are based on my very subjective opinion but I think the ElecLady sounds better than the Hartman. Especially with distortions like the Muff. The current Deluxe is a tad too dark for my taste but the late 90s model is superb. It’s hardwire but doesn’t suck too much tone. – Bjorn]

  285. Dylan B says:

    Hey Bjorn, the new guide is great! You should consider adding rotating speaker and echo sections.Thanks as always!

    [Thanks! A delay/echo feature is due this fall :) – Bjorn]

  286. nashsnazzy says:

    So, did the ElecLady get a better score because it is cheaper? Does it make muffs sound thin like the Hartman? Is there something in the Hartman that can be adjusted to make it less fizzy sounding with muffs?

    [The Hartman is a clone of the first generation Mistress, while the ElecLady is something between the original and Deluxe, which makes is sound bit darker and it blends better with gain pedals… in my opinion at least. – Bjorn]

  287. Carlos Mink says:

    Hi Bjorn, thanks for your testings – they are always very usefull for those, like me, that are “lost” with so many options. As I’ve mentioned at Gilmorish on FaceBook, a “quick alternative” for two different “chorus-like effect” can be obtained through the Digitech’s Whammy DT pedal (YouTube exaust demo at a 15 minutes video: http://youtu.be/iJ2zrpButfw). As an “alternative”, specially for “Gdansk tour fans” (“The Blue song” and other ones) and “Pulse Live tour”, its a way to quickly obtain a chorus-like effect without activating any other pedal. The detune options of this Whammy pedal are also very interesting to quickly obtain fatter sounding (near to a bass for some Gilmour’s introductions for many songs when he uses the 5th and 6th strings for long solo periods) – all in one very clean/transparente pedal. Best regards!

    [Thanks for the tip, Carlos! – Bjorn]

  288. clark says:

    Just my two cents…..

    I think of phasers including the univibe as basically being dynamically changing EQ devices/filters, so it sort of makes sense that they go in front of a distortion just like you would put a wah in front of distortion to alter the character of the distorted signal.

    Flangers and choruses, to varying degrees, create a second signal time delayed with the first, so it makes more sense to place them after distortion devices .This creates a less muddy signal, as the attack transient of the guitar is not smeared going into the distortion.

    Of course, rules are made to be broken…

    [Good points. – Bjorn]

  289. Daniel says:

    My comment is awaiting moderation!!!

    […and? – Bjorn]

  290. Yoel says:

    So would the RT-20 be the best choice for Wall and Animals era RA-200 tones?

    [Wall and Animals (live tones especially) won’t sound right without an Electric Mistress but the RT-20 does the RA200 pretty well. By no means the real thing but by using the mix feature you can blend in just the right amount of modulation for that extra dimension. Muff > booster > mistress > RT20 and you can’t go wrong :) – Bjorn]

  291. Daniel says:

    Well,
    My favoutite Gilmour tones are pheraps the Division Bell. However in the oposite maybe are the momentary lapse of reason. On Pulse I really love the clean sound on Shine on and the distorted sound on Time solo.
    However in my pedalboard I have a mistress and I love them and in fact it’s essencial for animals-final cut tones. I also have a Mad Professor Tyni Orange Phaser and I love them (I love mad professor pedals!) It sound very liquid, very very good sound quality, very mix with the other pedals and have a “blend knob”. I think that this pedal is simply perfect for breath.

    It Recently I buy a RT-20 and I hate them. The pedal eats the signal, when is on and when is off… In Generaly is like put the sound of the guitar direct on sound table… the electric guitar is there… but doesn’t sounds good how if you use a tubes amp… Can you tell me that settings you normally use on this pedal? (RT20)
    I’m decided to buy a Electric Blue Chorus… of course, of mad professor!:-) I had see them on youtube and I love them, and if will be like my phaser it would be amasing.

    Cheers!

    [i’ve never experienced that the RT20 eats signal but it doesn’t like to be powered in a chain so be sure to use a dedicated adapter or line from a power source. Also, some overdrives and distortions might react to the buffer in the RT20, so you might want to place a true bypass pedal between it and the gain pedal. Keep in mind too that this is a rotary sim and not a chorus or flanger so it will behave differently. If you’ve ever played through a leslie you will have noticed that it changes your signal completely. That’s why many prefer to combine rotary cabs with regular amps and the RT20 allows a similar setup with the effect mix and direct volume controls. – Bjorn]

  292. Thomas says:

    Thank you Bjorn for the long work you’ve done. But can you tell something about the Moog phaser? Is it a good deal for the Gilmour’s sounds?
    Cheers!

    [Never tried that one so I can’t really tell. Sorry. – Bjorn]

  293. David says:

    Great article as always!
    Speaking of the Electric Mistress, how do you (and others) cope with the volume drop when using it on stage? I find it to be most annoying to hit it for a solo for it to kill that bit of volume.

    [Thanks! Doesn’t really bother me and I don’t think it’s that severe. Not on the Deluxe anyway. Makes the Big Muffs sound a bit smoother I think. – Bjorn]

  294. Aaron says:

    Have you look at any of the Strymon mods? Maybe even the Mobius? I know they are all digital and the Mobius is a multi-effect of sorts but I think they sound great and a good way to cover a lot of ground with little pedal board real estate.

    [Only tried the Lex so far, which I’m using on my stage board. Check out the review here. – Bjorn]

  295. Benedikt W. says:

    Very nice, great work Bjorn!
    I really enjoy these new Buyer’s Gear Guides!
    Can’t wait to see the Buyer’s Gear Guide Delays :)

    [Thank you! – Bjorn]

  296. Thomas M. says:

    Awesome stuff as usual Bjorn. I love all these new gear guides. I’ve based my entire pedal board off your reviews, videos and other peoples opinions that visit here frequently. I did have a question though. How can you tell the difference between the original/reissue deluxe electric mistress and the current models?

    [Thanks, Thomas! I haven’t played an original Deluxe, so I can’t really tell about that one. The late 90s Deluxe has a bit more presence and open tone compared to the current reissue. – Bjorn]

  297. Ciarán Byrne says:

    Wow Bjorn! These new articles are excellent, I’m quite enjoying reading them :)

    [Thanks! – Bjorn]

  298. Josh says:

    Wonderful! I’ve been using many of these with great success – notably the CE-2, the Maxon PhaseTone, and the Deluxe EM. For anyone who buys an Electric Mistress, I would strongly suggest that they send it to Howard Davis to have it modded to non-Deluxe specs… He does an amazing job (as he should – he used to design circuits for EH, after all) and can add a few things like a non-volume drop mod and a mix knob. Definitely worth it for the best possible Wall and Final Cut tones!

    [I haven’t done that my self but I’ve read that many people are disappointed with his work. Your experience is different? – Bjorn]

  299. Duane says:

    This was just what I needed to see.

    Just a fantastic update. I lost a large amount of gear to a storm a few years ago and am just now getting some of it back, and I REALLY needed a good modulation option that would cover multiple bases. The RT-20 was what I was looking at and your thoughts on it have really reenforced my own opinions.

    Also, a little off-topic but I’m looking for a strat that would be a perfect start point for his tones, to replace my ’87 MIJ I lost. I really don’t relish replacing pickups and components again so any quick thoughts on a starting point involving the least work would be appreciated (other than the obvious custom shop black strat that is).

    I’ve played Gilmour covers for 25 years and I can honestly say this site is just brilliant and I greatly appreciate the work you’ve done Bjorn.

    [Thank you Duane! I’d track down a CIJ Strat. The ST-57 guitars are amazing. I think they all feature Fender CS Texas Specials now, which are slightly hotter than the CS69s. Fender Mexico also launched new nitro finish guitars in the Classic Series. Both the 50s and 60s will do the job. MIMs have come a long way lately. Other than that, I guess you need to go to the US Classic Series. Good luck! And sorry to hear about all the stuff you lost. – Bjorn]

  300. Operario says:

    This whole update was nothing short of BRILLIANT Bjorn! Lots of useful info and clarification, for which I really thank you, and I’m sure I’m not speaking just for myself.

    Really looking forward to the Buyer’s Guide update regarding Delays. that’s been the hardest part for me for a while now. Anyway, keep up the good work. Cheers from Brazil!

    [Thanks! The delay guide will be posted early autumn. – Bjorn]

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