Big Muff

Everyone seems to offer their version of the Big Muff these days. Some close to the original models. Others with new features and variations. It can be a real challenge to choose the right model for your setup. In this feature, I’ll share my experience and thoughts on the models I’ve played over the years, with David Gilmour’s tones in mind.

At the time when David Gilmour joined Pink Floyd, in early 1968, guitarists had only a few pedals to choose from. Like Hendrix, David would also employ the Dallas Arbiter Fuzz Face. A germanium transistor model between 1968-1970 and later, from early 1971, the silicon transistor model.

David got his first Big Muff around 1975. The pedal was used on the recording of Animals and subsequently on evey Pink Floyd and solo album since then. Read more about David Gilmour and the Big Muff.

Fuzz or Big Muff?

Big Muffs are often referred to as fuzz and although that describes the tone, a traditional fuzz and Big Muff are soundwise and technically two different effects. While fuzz pedals are based on a very basic two-transistor circuit, producing an uncompressed and raw tone, the Big Muff has a more complex cuircuit and a much more balanced tone with rich harmonics and sustain. It is perhaps more accurate to place the Big Muff in a category between fuzz and the more modern distortion.

In terms of recreating David’s tones, you’ll be able to cover all the fuzz tones with a Big Muff – at least the bright and aggressive silicon tones from Obscured by Clouds, Live at Pompeii and Dark Side of the Moon. However, a Big Muff will be hard to tame properly for those warm overdrive tones of the germanium fuzz David used for the early post Syd era up to Meddle.

I don’t recommend using fuzz to replicate the Big Muff tones. Although a silicon Muff can do a fairly good Animals tone, neither the germanium nor the silicon works that well for Wall and later tones. A good tip is to feature at least one fuzz and one Big Muff on your pedal board for a versatile setup.

Big Muff on the pedal board

I recommend placing Big Muffs first in the line of gain pedals (after wah and compression). This will allow the pedal to dominate the chain and tone when you stack it with boosters or overdrives.

Although Big Muffs doesn’t react to buffers as severly as fuzz pedals, they do prefer to be placed as far away from them as possible, to maintain the character and harmonics of the pedal.

Big Muffs also needs an amp with enough compression and a bit of mid range, to sound smooth and warm. Fender Twins and other scooped and uncompressed amps, will make a Muff sound like a very agry bee. Read more about choosing the right pedals for your amp here.

Vintage Big Muffs VS modern clones

Before you start searching Ebay for a vintage Big Muff you should keep in mind that unless you are very aware of what you are about do to, you can end up getting very disappointed. In most cases, you’re better off with a clone. Back in the early 70s Electro Harmonix were quite inconsistent with their designs and components. Add forty years and heavy abuse from former owners and it’s quite obvious that these pedals won’t sound as they once did.

It’s also a well known fact among collectors that there’s very little difference between the so called “triangle” and “ram’s head” models other than the chassis (and placement of the knobs). Aged parts and the inconsistency between circuits, means that two seemingly identical pedals will sound quite different to each other and you might very well end up with a “ram’s head” that sounds like a “triangle” or vice versa.

Visit The Big Muff Pi Page for all there is to know about the classic Big Muff models.

All pedals listed below were tested on typical Gilmour inspired setups, including Stratocasters and Hiwatt and Fender amps. Pleae note that the pedals may sound and behave differently on your setup. All scores are purely subjective.

Triangle, Ram’s Head, US reissues and clones

The triangle and ram’s head era stretches from the late 60s to mid 70s. These are known by their bright and aggressive tone, very little mid range, fat lower end and singing sustain. Ideal for combining with boosters and overdrives but some pedals might be a bit of a challenge on smaller amps and setups. The mid era OP-amps and current US reissues has a slightly darker tone, more gain and are perhaps not that suited for Gilmour’s tones, although some of the new EHX variations and spin-offs sports new features for a more versatile tone.

Electro Harmonix “triangle” Big Muff 1970
The first Big Muff model is considered by many to be the most musical of all. The pedal has a smooth and warm tone with rich sustain, fat lower end and a crisp attack. Its mild gain makes it easy to tame and ideal in a combination with a booster/overdrive. The “triangle” covers all of David’s Muff tones but you might want to add a hint of mid range for authentic PULSE tones.
Noise level: N/A
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 8/10
Gilmour tones: DG78/Wall/Final Cut/Gdansk/Rattle score: 8/10

Electro Harmonix “ram’s head” Big Muff 1973
Compared to the average “triangle” the “ram’s head” has an overall more aggressive tone with more gain and brighter top and that classic mids scoop. The pedal stands well on its own but a transparent booster/overdrive adds to its already monstrous tone. The “ram’s head” is ideal for Animals and Wall but a hint of mid range boost makes it incredibly versatile for any era. Personally I prefer the later “violet ram’s head” for a bit more gain.
Noise level: N/A
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 8/10
Gilmour tones: Animals/DG78/Wall/Final Cut/Gdansk/Rattle score: 8/10

Electro Harmonix Big Muff (transistor and op-amp) 1976
This late 70s model was produced both as a transistor and op-amp version. The transistor version is very similar to the “ram’s head” with a bit more gain while the op-amp pedals has a distinctly bigger character typical of the early 90s grunge bands. In essence both are perhaps best described as a mix between the “ram’s head” and the early 90s Sovtek models with an aggressive, almost boomy tone that’s a bit hard to tame.
Noise level: N/A
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 4/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 5/10
Gilmour tones: Wall/Delicate/PULSE score: 5/10

Electro Harmonix Pi US 2000 reissue
The current US model is somewhat similar to the late 70s red/black Muff although it has little resemblance of the classic Big Muff tones. It sounds boomy, with a saturated gain character and a rather choked sustain. Not the best choice for replicating David’s tones but rather for more modern sounding idie and stoner. It does stand well on its own but can be hard to tame with a booster.
Noise level: 7/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 2/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 2/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE score: 2/10

Electro Harmonix Little Big Muff Pi
The current XO version is not to be mistaken for the 70s model with the same name. The Little Big Muff Nano is more or less identical to the US reissue although with a bit more presence and sustain, which makes the whole difference. A bonus is the small pedal board friendly foot print. It stands well on its own but works nicely in combo with a booster/overdrive as well.
Noise level: 7/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 7/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 7/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE score: 5/10

Electro Harmonix Big Muff Pi with Tone Wicker
This one is very similar to the Little Big Muff featuring an additional tone toggle switch based on the more popular mods on the boutique market. The “wicker” mode adds more presence sustain and the tone switch allows the tone stage to be bypassed for an even more scooped mids tone and fatter gain. Doesn’t quite stand up to similar boutique models but definitely worth a try.
Noise level: 7/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 7/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 8/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk/Rattle score: 6/10

Pete Cornish P-1
The P1 is based on a “ram’s head” circuit with the characteristic bright crisp top, fat lows and tons of sustain. It stands perhaps best on its own but a transparent booster adds a bit more warmth and an overall smother tone. Personally, I find the pedal a bit too pristine and lacking some of that classic vintage Muff mojo. However, the P1 is preferred by Gilmour and obviously nails those classic Animals and Wall tones. A hint of mid range boost takes care of the Delicate and PULSE tones as well.
Noise level: 10/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 8/10
Gilmour tones: Animals/DG78/Wall/Final Cut/Gdansk/Rattle score: 8/10

Skreddy Pedals Rust Rod
Skreddy Pedals Rust RodSkreddy has a well earned reputation of making some of the best sounding Big Muffs on the market. Most of the previous models has either been based on a specific tone or different variations of stacking a Muff with a booster. The Rust Rod is based on that mid 70s Big Muff, with lots of gain, low end and a bit of mid range, allowing it to cut through more compared to most other Muffs from that era. It’s loud and uncompromised but it nails David’s Animals and Wall tones particularly well and even without a booster behind it. Despite the huge amount of gain, the Rust Rod is very silent and it goes very well on lower wattage bedroom amps. See my full review of the Skreddy Pedals Rust Rod here.
Noise level: 10/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 9/10
Gilmour authentic tones: Animals/DG78/Wall/Final Cut score: 9/10

BYOC Large Beaver
The Large Beaver is in my opinion one the better sounding clone of the classic Big Muffs. The current kit feature setups for both the “triangle” and “ram’s head” models as well as an additional 3-way tone switch allowing classic scooped mids, tone bypass and mid boost. Both models are very close to the originals with the same musical qualities and tone. A bonus is the true bypass switching and dead silent circuit. The “ram’s head” is perhaps preferred for David’s tones but the “triangle” easily nails most of his leads from all eras. Add a hint of mid range (or use the mid boost feature) for a Delicate/PULSE tone.
Noise level: 10/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 10/10
Gilmour tones: Animals/DG78/Wall/Final Cut/Gdansk/Rattle score: 10/10

Thorpy FX Muffroom Cloud
Thorpy FX Muffroom CloudThe Muffroom has already become legendary. Probably because Thorpy are known for making extremely high quality pedals but also because the Muffroom takes the Muff circuit to a new level and modernising it, which has never been done before. It sounds like a mix between a Triangle and Sovtek, with a moderate amount of gain and lots of low end and mid range. The details and clarity of this thing is impressive and it easily doubles as a dark overdrive and even a fuzz. My minor issue is that it sounds a tad too nice and clean compared to most Big Muffs but it’s perfect for a tidy setup or if you wish your Muff sounded more like a distortion. The Muffroom sounds best on its own and fits most bedroom setups nicely. See my full review of the Thorpy FX Muffroom Cloud here.
Noise level: 10/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 7/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 9/10
Gilmour authentic tones: Delicate/Pulse score: 8/10

Buyer's Gear Guide - Gilmourish PickElectronic Orange Pig Hoof
The Pig Hoof is a clone of the mid 70s “ram’s head” with smooth, warm gain and a typically deep mids scoop. The Hoof has an incredibly tight lower end and clear presence that makes it equally suited for both a stand-alone pedal (especially with hotter pickups) and in combo with a booster. Of all the “ram’s head” models I’ve tried this is by far the loudest but also one of the quietest. The Pig Hoof covers all of David’s tones, Animals, Wall and Island in particular and it also works incredibly well on bedroom setups. See my full review of the Pig Hoof here.
Noise level: 9/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 8/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 9/10
Gilmour authentic tones: Animals/Wall/DG78/Final Cut/Gdansk/Rattle score: 10/10

Electronic Orange Pig Hoof MkII
The Pig Hoof MkII is a milder version of the standard red label. The MkII is tweaked and adjusted for studio recording, with less gain and low end than most ram’s head models. The idea is to be able to get the classic tones without all the low frequencie rumble and nasty, uncontrollable feedback. The pedal also goes extremely well with boosters, either you want a clean volume boost or a bit more dirt for a bit of both worlds. An internal trim pot allows you to fine tune the gain stage and match it with your amp and pickups. A unique and versatile Big Muff tailored for all situations and setups. See my full review of the Pig Hoof MkII here.
Noise level: 10/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 9/10
Gilmour authentic tones: Animals/DG78/Wall/Final Cut score: 10/10

Buyer's Gear Guide - Gilmourish PickVick Audio 73 Ram’s Head
Buyer's Gear Guide - Vick Audio 73 Ram's HeadIt’s always great fun to try out pedals with a different twist on an original design and sometimes that’s even what you need, but with Big Muffs I always tend to be coming back to the basics. As the name implies, Vick Audio’s Ram’s Head is based on the early 70s Ram’s Head model. Known for its crispy top, saturated gain and fat lows, this model made its mark on some of David Gilmour’s most beloved recordings. The Vick captures the essence of those tones, with an incredibly well balanced tone and character. It’s also got an onboard switch for three different mid range modes, which comes handy when you need your guitar to cut through. Well made and a price tag that should suit most budgets. See my full review of the ’73 Ram’s Head here.
Noise level: 10/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 10/10
Gilmour tones: Animals/DG78/Wall/Final Cut/Gdansk/Rattle score: 10/10

MJM Foxey Fuzz
The Foxey Fuzz is one of the few clones of the Guild and early “triangle” era Big Muffs. Although similar to a triangle, the Foxey Fuzz is perhaps an even more aggressive violet ram’s head kind of Muff with tons of gain and lower end. You will have a hard time taming it for a bedroom setup but pair it up with a loud tube amp and you have one of the heaviest sounding Muffs on the market. Perhaps not the typical Gilmour Muff but it easily nails all those late 70s tones.
Noise level: 8/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 8/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 5/10
Gilmour tones: Animals/DG78/Wall score: 8/10

North Effects 22/7 Violet Ram
North Effects offers a wide range of clones similar to BYOC based on simplicity and classic designs. The Violet Ram is a clone of the mid 70’s “ram’s head” that had a bit more gain and bite. This is definitely not a smooth sounding Muff but it nails those Animals tones in particular. Tonewise it’s similar to the Jam Pedals Foxey Fuzz although a bit easier to tame. A great option for a budget setup. See my full review of the 22/7 Violet Ram here.
Noise level: 8/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 5/10
Gilmour tones: Animals/DG78/Wall/Final Cut score: 7/10

Skreddy P19
The idea behind the P19 is to capture David Gilmour’s lead tones from The Wall as you hear them on the album. The tone is unmistakably ram’s head with a saturated musical distortion but the P19 has more mids and an overall darker tone compared to most other ram’s heads. Imagine a Stratocaster into a loud Hiwatt stack and an old rusty Muff recorded with an SM57 and a bit of studio compression and limiting and you have the P19. An additional mids hump switch allows even a bit more mid range for brighter amps and bedroom setups. The pedal stands best on its own but a transparent booster or EQ will give it a bit more top end and sparkle. See my full review of the P19 here.
Noise level: 10/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 7/10
With smaller amps/bedroom levels: 10/10
Gilmour authentic tones: Animals/DG78/Wall/Final Cut

Gilmourish.Com score: 9/10

Buffalo FX Ram’s Head NOS BC239c
Finally a take on the classic ram’s head circuit that mananages to deal with some of the issues. The Buffalo RH is no doubt a ram’s head with an aggressive and saturated tone and that raspy top but this one’s also got a hint of mids and a perfectly balanced low end. It’s slightly darker than most ram’s heads but the sustain sings for ages and there are no choked or dead tones. Pair it up with a transparent booster like the Buffalo Power Booster for opening it up further and adding a bit more bite. Nails all of David’s Muff tones and fits even the most demanding bedroom setup. See my full review of the Ram’s Head NOS BC239c here.
Noise level: 9/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom levels: 10/10
Gilmour authentic tones: Animals/DG78/Wall/Final Cut

Gilmourish.Com score: 8/10

JMB Experience Classic 70s
As the name implies, this one’s based on the original Big Muff designs, with an emphasis on the ram’s head model. It’s fairly dark and with a hint of mid range, which perhaps takes it towards the typical triangle flavours, but like the ram’s head, the Classic 70s has lots of gain and a growling low end. This is an excellent all-round Muff, capable of covering both David’s 70s tones and the Sovtek era and it’s darker character makes it a great choice for bedroom setups and recording. Se my YouTube review of the Classic 70s here.
Noise level: 9/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 8/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 9/10
Gilmour tones: Animals/DG78/Wall/Final Cut/Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk/Rattle

Gilmourish.Com score: 8/10

Behringer VD1 Vintage Distortion
The VD1 is very similar to the current EHX US reissue with a boomy saturated character and sometimes a choked sustain. This one is more suited for modern tones and indie rock and nothing I’d recommend for David’s tones. Adding a booster smooths out some of the harsh overtones but of all Big Muffs I’ve tried the VD1 really needs a loud tube amp to really open up.
Noise level: 7/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 5/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 2/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE score: 2/10

Mooer Triangle Buff
As the name implies, this is a clone of the first generation Big Muff, the so called triangle model. Like the original, the Buff has a dark and warm tone, with just a hint of mids and a fat lower end. It’s not as smooth and dynamic sounding as some of the other clones, like the BYOC Large Beaver or Red Muck but it’s fully capable of producing all the classic tone and, IOM, much better than most of the current EHX models. An excellent choice for tight budgets and cramped pedal boards.
Noise level: 7/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 9/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 7/10
Gilmour authentic tones: Animals/DG78/Wall/Final Cut/Gdansk/Rattle score: 6/10

Sovtek Russian tone models

The Sovtek Big Muffs are recognised by their huge tone. Fat low end, a nice mid range hump and the sweetest sustain imaginable. Compared to the triangle and ram’s head, the Sovteks often works best alone, without a booster. Some of the new clones are modelled after the early Civil War and tall font green Russians, which are considered superior to the later Sovtek models. Other clones offer new features and variations on the classic circuit.

Sovtek “Civil War” Big Muff Pi 1990
The “civil war” model is recognized by its familiar exterior and larger than life tone. Although very similar to the late 70s red/black version the “civil war” has a boosted mid range, crisp attack and thunderous lows as well as an incredible sustain. Its mild gain makes it easy to tame in combo with a booster, although it operates very well on its own. The pedal is ideal for David’s Delicate and PULSE tones but nails pretty much everything from Animals to Gdansk.
Noise level: N/A
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 8/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 9/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk/Rattle score: 10/10

Sovtek “Green Russian” Big Muff Pi 1994
The early so called “tall font” versions of the green russian is identical to the “civil war” while the later more common “bubble font” has a bit more gain and an overall nastier sound. The pedal is easy to tame in combo with a booster although it operates very well on its own. It’s ideal for David’s Delicate and PULSE tones but nails pretty much everything from Animals to Gdansk.
Noise level: N/A
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 8/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 9/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk/Rattle score: 10/10

Sovtek “Black Russian” Big Muff Pi 1998
Due to inconsistent circuits and vague transition periods the early big box Black Russian is essentially identical to the “bubble font” Green Russian with same mid rangy growling gain. The later slightly smaller box version however is closer to the US reissue and not that suited for replicating David’s tones.
Noise level: N/A
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 8/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 7/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk/Rattle score: 7/10

Note: As the early triangle and ram’s head Big Muff the Civil War, Green Russian and early Black Russian are hard to tell apart due to inconsistencies in the production and often overlapping designs and component values. See The Big Muff Pi Page for more details on each version.

Electro Harmonix Bass Big Muff Pi
This Big Muff from the current EHX line is surprisingly close to the old Sovtek models and the green in particular. Tons of gain, massive lows and a pronounced mid range makes it a great option for David’s Delicate and PULSE tones. A featured toggle switch allows you to switch between bass boost, classic Muff tones and an effect mix control.
Noise level: 9/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 7/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 7/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk/Rattle score: 7/10

Pete Cornish P-2
Presented by Cornish as an upgrade of the P1 the P2 has perhaps more similarities with the late 70s red/black models and the Sovteks with a boosted mid range, thunderous lower end and tons of gain. Of all the Big Muff models this one sound best alone. A bit hard to tame perhaps and personally, I find it a bit too boomy and dark.
Noise level: 7/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 3/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 7/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE score: 5/10

Buyer's Gear Guide - Gilmourish PickBuffalo FX Patriot
Based on the Civil War Sovtek Big Muff, the Patriot has a well balanced low end, rounded top and creamy mid range. Compared to similar clones, like the Box of War, the Patriot has a more open sounding character, with a focus on the higher mids, which adds to the sweet singing sustain. The pedal is loud and has a lot of gain but the noise level is surprisingly low. This is probably as close as you’ll get to David’s PULSE lead tones. The pedal sounds huge – both on large tube stacks and bedroom setups. Highly recommended! See my full review of the Patriot here.
Noise level: 10/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 10/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/ Pulse score: 10/10

MojoHand Colossus
Based on the early Sovtek models, the Colossus lives up to its name with a huge tone, thunderous lows and endless sustain. Like the Civil War, the Colossus has a boosted mid range that can be further sculpted with additional controls. The pedal stands well on its own but a mild, transparent booster will bring out the attack and top frequencies. An excellent choice for David’s Delicate and PULSE tones. See my full review of the Colossus here.
Noise level: 10/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 7/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 8/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk/Rattle score: 8/10

EarthQuaker Hoof Fuzz
The Hoof Fuzz is based on the early Sovteks and the green in particular. It has that familiar fat mid range, saturated gain and rich sustain but the Hoof also got a bit more presence, which makes it a great deal more versatile. An additional mid range control also allow you to sculpt the tone even further. The pedal stands well on its own but handles boosters equally well. Ideal for David’s Delicate and PULSE setups, but doubles nicely as a fuzz for the earlier tones as well – especially for those bedroom setups. See my full review of the Hoof Fuzz here.
Noise level: 8/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 8/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 10/10
Gilmour tones: Pompeii/Dark Side/Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk/Rattle score: 8/10

CostaLab Custom Muff
The Custom Muff is perhaps best described as a mix between the triangle and early Sovtek models. This no frills Muff features the classic three knob configuration and a tone that ranges from vintage overdrive to full blast fuzz. The Custom Fuzz works equally well as a stand alone unit or in combo with a transparent booster for a bit more presence and bite. This is one of the more versatile Big Muff models that tackles everything from Dark Side of the Moon to PULSE. See my full review of the Custom Muff here.
Noise level: 10/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 8/10
Gilmour tones: Pompeii/Dark Side/Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk/Rattle score: 8/10

Wren and Cuff Box of War
The Box of War is, as the name implies, a faithful recreation of the legendary Sovtek Civil War. The tone is huge, yet fairly mild with fat lower end and rich sustain. Although very close to the original, the BoW is not as open sounding and dynamic as the Patriot (Buffalo FX). The Box of War stands well on its own but you can also combine it with a mild, transparent booster for a bit more presence. Highly recommended for Gilmour’s PULSE Comfortably Numb tones and a bonus for a cool looking box!
Noise level: 10/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 9/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 9/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE score: 9/10

Jam Pedals Red Muck
This is an unusual combination of the warm mild character of the “triangle” and the fat lower end and creamy sustain of the Sovteks. The Red Muck may appear a bit thin and flat on its own but opens up for a wide range of tones in combination with a booster. Ideal for David’s Delicate and PULSE tones and highly recommended for bedroom setups. See my full review of the Red Muck here.
Noise level: 8/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 10/10
Gilmour authentic tones: Delicate/PULSE score: 8/10

Blackout Effectors Musket
The Musket isn’t really a clone of any particular model although is has strong similarities with the late 70s red/black Muff and the early Sovteks. The additional pre, mids and focus controls makes the pedal incredibly versatile and suitable for more genres and styles than any other Big Muff. The focus control adds more presence and sustain allowing the pedal to cut effortlessly through the mix. Its also probably the best Muff model for bedroom setups and it manages to maintain its character on even the lowest levels. The Musket covers all of David’s lead tones from all eras and stands equally well on its own and with boosters. See my full review of the Musket here.
Noise level: 9/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 10/10
Gilmour tones: Animals/Wall/Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk/Rattle score: 9/10

Top Tone Drive Gate DG-1
The DG-1 is perhaps best described as a mix between the Cornish P1 and P2. Like the P1, there is an unmistakable ram’s head flavour, with moderate gain and a nicely balanced low end. Add a hint of mids and you got the DG-1. Although perhaps best suited for the 80s and 90s Gilmour tones, the DG-1 easily cover all eras from the late 70s Animals to present. It also stacks nicely with boosters and other mild overdrives, for more saturation and sustain. The closest you get to the real Conish pedals? Possibly. See my full review of the DG1 here.
Noise level: 8/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 9/10
Gilmour tones: Animals/Wall/Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk/Rattle score: 9/10

VFE Fiery Red Horse
The Fiery Red Horse is similar to the Royal Beaver and Musket, packed with features for different tones. The pedal is based on the early “triangle” era circuit with additional controls for choosing between different clipping stages, mid range modes and voltage for adjusting the overall gain. This is an incredibly silent pedal with a classic warm and mild tone but perhaps just a bit too mild. It really needs a booster behind it to open up and to get enough gain. Still, it’s a great sounding option for a wide range of Gilmour tones.
Noise level: 10/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 5/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE score: 6/10

MojoHand BMP-1
Part of Mojo Hand’s limited edition vintage series, the BMP-1 is a clone of the so-called tall font green Sovtek. It’s on the brighter side compared to the WnC Box of War and Buffalo FX Patriot but it has a bit more gain and a nicely balanced low end. The pedal stands best on its own but the low noise level allows a transparent booster to beef it up a bit. The BMP-1 sounds great for David’s later Floyd tones and PULSE in particular. If you’re a Sovtek fan then don’t miss out on this little gem!
Noise level: 10/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 8/10
With smaller amps/bedroom levels: 8/10
Gilmour authentic tones: Delicate/PULSE score: 8/10


Technically, these aren’t Big Muffs but rather based on or variations of a similar circuit. Lots of new pedals in this category is popping up allowing some of that classic Big Muff flavour to shine through in a more modern and versatile package and tone.

JHS Muffuletta
JHS MuffulettaThere’s been a few attempts at making the “ultimate Muff” and you can argue whether or not they succeeded. The Muffuletta is the latest addition and rather than using one circuit and allowing the user to dial in different Muff tones from that, the Muffuletta feature circuits for each model. It not only sounds authentic but they’ve also managed to recreate much of the characteristics and mojo of each model – good and bad. The Ram’s Head and Triangle in particular, sounds very nice but the Sovtek can do a pretty good job replicating David’s Pulse tones as well. This is probably the most versatile Muff on the market. See my full review of the JHS Muffuletta here.
Noise level: 10/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 9/10
Gilmour authentic tones: Animals/DG78/Wall/Final Cut/Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk/Rattle score: 8/10

MojoHand Iron Bell
MojoHand designed the pedal not to be a Gilmour-in-a-box but rather to capture the overall tone and being a tool for getting the tones you want from each period. You might have a hard time getting the early fuzz tones but the Iron Bell nails most of the stuff from Dark Side to present and especially the 80s and 90s tones. It has lots of gain, a fat lower end and an overall midrangy character. Tonally, it fits somewhere between a RAT and early Sovtek. Perhaps not the pedal for Muff purists but definitely one of the more versatile Muffs on the market. See my full review of the Iron Bell here.
Noise level: 8/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 5/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 9/10
Gilmour authentic tones: Animals/DG78/Wall/Final Cut/Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk/Rattle score: 8/10

Wampler Pedals Velvet Fuzz
No doubt aimed at the Gilmour fans the Velvet Fuzz is kind of a fuzz meets Muff meets Rat. It’s designed to capture the tone of a fuzz or Muff into a Marshall, which is very much what you get with a Rat or Cornish G2 but the pedal seems to fall between two chairs and doesn’t quite make it up there with other “stacked” pedals like the P19 and Iron Bell. A mini toggle switch allows two differnet modes – “tight” sounds like a very smooth Big Muff with lots of mid range and comression. Lovely sustain and nice attack for your Gdansk tones. The second mode “big” sounds too compressed and chokes up even on the cleanest amp and pickups. The Velvet Fuzz stands best alone and works best on brighter amps and smaller bedroom setups.
Noise level: 9/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 6/10
With smaller amps/bedroom levels: 8/10
Gilmour authentic tones: PULSE/Gdansk score: 6/10

BTMB Royal Beaver
The Royal Beaver looks overwhelming but it’s easy to operate and extremely versatile. In addition to the standard volume, gain and tone controls the pedal feature controls for three separate gain stages allowing setups for several models including “triangle” and “ram’s head”. Last a 3-way tone mode switch allows for classic mid scooped tones, tone bypass or mid boost as featured on the Large Beaver. The Royal stands well on its own but a booster brings out its full potential. It should be mentioned that although the RB allows a wide range of tones you’re basically tweaking around a typical “triangle” circuit with perhaps some limitations for the purists. See my full review of the Royal Beaver here.
Noise level: 10/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 8/10
Gilmour authentic tones: Animals/DG78/Wall/Final Cut/Gdansk/Rattle score: 8/10

Buyer's Gear Guide - Big Muff Deluxe PiElectro Harmonix Deluxe Big Muff Pi
The Big Muff has always been EHX’s most successful pedals but the company has failed to keep up with the explosion of boutique and clone models, that often offer a greatly improvement on the original circuit. Apparently, EHX decided to do something about this and designed a Muff packed with all kinds of features. The result is one of the most versatile Big Muff models on the market, with the capability to reproduce almost any Big Muff model from the late 60s to present, with impressive accuracy. If size and simplicity is your concern, then look elsewhere but the Deluxe is worth checking out if you want one Muff that can pretty much do it all. See Kit Rae’s extensive review here.
Noise level: the pedal feature an onboard noise gate
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 7/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 8/10
Gilmour tones: Animals/DG78/Wall/Final Cut/Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk/Rattle score: 8/10

Electro Harmonix Germanium 4 Big Muff
Contrary to what its name implies this is not a Big Muff but rather a germanium fuzz with a overall much milder and warmer tone. Its two separate channels allows for either a classic germanium overdrive or a typical late 60s Fuzz Face-ish tone and you can combine the two for a result much similar to combining a fuzz with a Colorsound Powerboost. A great option for David’s 1968-71 tones but not a recommended option for classic Big Muff tones.
Noise level: 7/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: N/A
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 5/10
Gilmour tones: Saucerful/More/Atom Heart/Meddle/Pompeii score: 6/10

Note: Electro Harmonix has a wide range of spin-off models like Metal Muff, Micro Metal Muff, Pocket Metal Muff, Muff Overdrive, English Muff’n, Double Muff and Deluxe Big Muff… did I forget someone? I wouldn’t recommend any of these for David Gilmour’s tones. In stead, check out the Tone Wicker or Bass Big Muff from the EHX catalog.

Pete Cornish G-2
The G2 isn’t really a Big Muff but rather one of Pete Cornish’s more unique designs. It has a strong reference to the germanium Fuzz Face and LM308 RAT with a creamy fat distortion, lots of sustain and mid range. The pedal is perhaps more versatile than a Big Muff, suitable for a wider range of musical genres and playing styles. The G2 stands well on its own and maintains its tone and character on even the lowest levels, making it ideal for bedroom setups.
Noise level: 7/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 8/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 10/10
Gilmour tones: Dark Side/Live 8/Gdansk/Rattle score: 8/10

Buyer's Gear Guide - Gilmourish PickBuffalo Evolution
Buyer's Gear Guide - Buffalo FX EvolutionAlthough David Gilmour is perhaps mostly associated with the Big Muff, he also use distortions like the RAT and Pete Cornish G2. These have more mid range and an overall more saturated character. The Evolution is based on the G2, with much of the same character but Buffalo FX has addressed some of the issues as well, like designing a more linear gain stage and an overall warmer sounding character. The result is an incredibly versatile distortion, with a tube amp like tone, sweet singing sustain and a very low noise level. See my full review of the Evolution here.
Bedroom setups: 10/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk/Rattle

Gilmourish.Com score: 10/10

TopTone Drive Gate DG-2
The DG-2 is loosely based on the Pete Cornish G2. Not really a Big Muff but closer to the classic RAT with a warm, creamy germanium tone and tons of sustain. Compared to the Cornish, the DG2 is actually noticeably quieter and even a bit smoother. An excellent choice for a versatile setup and for bedroom setups. See my full review of the DG2 here.
Noise level: 9/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 8/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 9/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk/Rattle score: 9/10

Vick Audio V-2
Vick Audio V2The V-2 taps into the Cornish G2 territory but unlike the TopTone G2 and Buffalo FX Evolution, the V-2 sounds closer to a Muff, rather than a Muffish Marshall. There’s lots of gain, mids and low end here but what sets it apart, is less compression and more harmonics. The V-2 can easily cover David’s more current lead tones, produced by the Cornish G2 but also double as a Muff and even a fuzz, with some tweaking. The V-2 sounds best alone, without a booster, and works equally well on smaller bedroom amps and bigger stage rigs. See my full review of the Vick Audio V-2 here.
Noise level: 9/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 8/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 9/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk/Rattle

Gilmourish.Com score: 8/10

Feel free to use the comments field below and share your experience, recommendations and tips!

842 Responsesso far.

  1. Ryan Leone says:

    Bjorn, what transistor muff model/clone does the best job of emulating the op-amp/ic muff model/clone or are they just too different? I sold my swollen pickle and would like to get a best of both worlds, which, I know is impossible (though green carrot pedals offers a two in one enclosure that would work.) Is it better to try say a ram’s head to emulate an op-amp muff or an op-amp to emulate a ram’s head or other transistor muff? Any info would be greatly appreciated and if there is any way of donating money to you let me know.

    • Bjorn says:

      EHX just released a reissue of the late 70s op-amp so check out that one. You’ll find a Paypal donate button one the blog and contact pages. Thanks!

      • Ryan Leone says:

        No problem; for you to reply to every single comment is amazing and should be rewarded with more than just a thank you. That said, thanks for the reply. And as far as the ehx new op-amp muff I’ve seen it but I’m thinking about getting the eqd hoof and just seeing if I could get that to be an all around versatile muff.

  2. Markus says:

    Hi Bjorn

    First of all, thanks a lot for all the work you’ve put in here. This is a really great website and I’ve learned a lot.

    I got an EHX Nano BMP last year but I’m a bit disappointed because I don’t get the smooth singing lead sounds out of it. I am playing a Standard Mexico Strat and a Standard Mexico Tele through a VOX AC15C1. I already tried many different settings and combinatios with my other pedals (Maxon OD808, BOSS BD-2 and MXR Carbon Copy Bright) but I am not able to reach the sound I’m dreaming of. The EHX Nano BMP always sounds much too aggressive, except for very low volumes.

    Now I’m thinking about buying either the Vick Audio 73 Ram’s Head or the EHX Green Russian BMP. Would this make sense to get a smoother sound? Which one would you recommend to get smooth lead sound with my bedroom setup?

    Looking forward to your answer!

    Thank you and best regards from Germany

    • Bjorn says:

      The current BMP has a much more scooped and more aggressive character than the 70s models and the 90s Sovteks. It’s just the nature of the pedal. You might want to check out the Green Russian reissue, which is considerably smoother and easier to set up for Gilmour’s tones. Be sure to check out this feature too for some tips on how to choose the right pedal for your amp.

  3. Seth Heaster says:

    Bjorn, I don’t know what to do. I have a modern reissue of the Big Muff. I have tried boosting it with a BD-2 before it, after it, not at all-everything. I’ve tried a ton of different settings on each and I just can not get a smooth, tight muff sound. It sounds super square wave and muddy. What do you recommend?

    • Bjorn says:

      Yoy’re pretty much describing the tone of that pedal. It’s very different from the early 70s ram’s head and mid 90s Sovteks that David’s been using over the years. What sort of amp and pickups do you have? Check out this feature for some tips on how to choose the right pedals for your amp and check out the Big Muff tone guide too.

      • Seth Heaster says:

        I run stereo. One side is a Peavy VT Classic. It’s a 50 W 2×12. That is more quiet than the other one because it’s my “rotary speaker”. The other is a Fender Stage 160. I play quite loud (volume on the Fender pushing 8) so I can get the warmth that you suggested. The pickups are the stock pickups in my MIM Fender Standard Stratocaster. I plan to upgrade them to Custom ’69s though I’m the future. I have read pretty much all of the articles on your sight to get as much information as possible. (By the way, fantastic sight. I think I suggested it before, but please do an article just on delay. How to use it like Gilmour, how to use it with reverb or how to imitate reverb, and specific settings for certain songs. That would be fantastic) Thanks so much for the help Bjorn!

  4. Hello Bjorn,

    I’ve been really loving your gear reviews. A couple questions:
    My current rig is Stratocaster/Tree Of Life/EP Booster/Diamond Halo/Echosex/MXR Script Phase 90/65 Deluxe Reverb Reissue

    I’m looking into the Effectrode PC-2A for compression.

    And I’m looking into something heavy, along the Muff lines. I’m looking for the creamiest “fuzz” type sound. The Analogman Sun Face and Sun Bender were not right. Is the Vick Audio Rams Head my best bet? Or maybe a Rat set right?

    Do you have any comments on my signal chain order?

    And, do you have a recommendation for David Gilmour music books? I much prefer standard notation to tab.


    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Jesse! I don’t think a Muff will be much better than what you’ve already tried. Fender amps and fuzz pedals doesn’t go that well together if you want David’s smooth and compressed tones. You’re probably better off with a Rat or OCD for those high gain tones.
      I’m sure you can track down most of the Floyd albums in tab books. Not sure if they still print them but EBay or Amazon is a good place to start.

  5. Romain says:

    Hi bjorn, thanks for your answer last time. I want you to see alh pedals. It’s a french fan of David Gilmour who builds pedals for nail David’s tone for a cheap price (nearly 120 euros). He reproduce the ram’s head, tube driver, color sound and many over… You should see that, it’s realy cool !

  6. Dimitris says:

    Vick Audio offer a full list of 4 different Muffs…
    Can’t get them out of my head!
    Pig Hoof, or Vick Audio Ram’s Head?

    • Bjorn says:

      Depends on what you’re looking for and how well your amp can handle scooped pedals. I would say the Pig Hoof for authentic mid 70s tones and the Vick for a more versatile and easier to set up version.

  7. Jeff Knudson says:

    Just curious if you ever did a “cheap” Gilmore pedalboard build guide for bedroom warriors

  8. Pouzi says:

    Hi Bjorn! Was wondering how you would compare Buffalo FX’s Patriot to EHX’s Green Russian? Cheers!

  9. Baris says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    Did you try Stomp Under Foot violet rams head? İf yes, what do you think about it for Gilmourish sound?

  10. Andrew says:

    Hi Just watched your new EHX Green Russian re issue review, Brilliant and very helpful thank you.

    Have you heard the TC electronic Honey pot Fuzz and do you have an opinion on this pedal?

    Trying to decide between the two.



  11. Kirk says:

    Hello, not sure if you have been asked this before but have you’ve checked out the Nano Big Muff? I seen one on Guitar Center’s site.

  12. Daniel Contarini says:

    Hello Bjorn, I would really appreciate your help. I have a Fender Strato and a Fender Super Champ XD amplifier, and I want to buy a Muff but I have doubts about which one to buy because I know I need one that has more mids due to Fender. My current setup: MXR Dyna Comp, Tube Screamer, The Rat, OCD, Fat Boost, RT20, Elec Lady, Flashback delay, D-seed delay. I would also like to know which loop switcher you use or recommend. Thank you very much! Congratulations on your incredible work!

    • Bjorn says:

      Thanks! Not sure if a Muff would be the best option for your amp. They often sound bright and harsh on Fender amps. I think you’d be better off with the RAT and OCD for distortion tones. Having said that, I think the Vick 73 or 1861 with the mid range switch would be the best choice.

      • DANIEL CONTARINI says:

        Thanks for your kind reply. It´s a honour talk to you. I decided to keep my Rat and OCD like you said. Do you have some settings for them? I feel they´re very harsch and don´t have that “violin like” tone (maybe it´s my settings). I´d like to know also how would you use my setup (Tube screamer, OCD and Rat), in terms of boosting, and what of them would you use for distortion and for overdrive. Thank you very much!!

        • Bjorn says:

          Well, settings are tricky because it depends on the whole rig. Not just the pedals. A good starting point is to set the volume to unity with the straight signal from the guitar to the amp. I usually keep the tone around 9 or 10 o’clock and the gain set for whatever I need. But before you start though, always make sure you got the best platform coming from your amp. I use tube amps and like them clean but not too clean. A hint of breakup from the tubes makes them much better suited for pedals. Mid range and compression will often make pedals sound smoother but try to crank the volume control as well. The OCD sound much smoother with the volume set around 1 or 2 o’clock but it’s very loud too :)

  13. Francesco C says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    How much until the review of the new green russian?
    I surprisingly found it suitable for all the era, especially in combo with Mistress or Chorus.

    • Bjorn says:

      I’ll try to have it up by the end of the week.

      • dami11e says:

        Hi Bjorn

        This is great news. Very much looking forward to *your* review of it–many of the others don’t go as in depth as I would (personally) like them to.

        You mentioned in a previous comment that there appears to be a difference in the circuit–will you be able to address that in the comments of the video, if not the video itself? I can’t seem to find any information about the difference between the circuits.

        Really looking forward!

        • Bjorn says:

          I’ll have the review up within a day or two. The circuit is new, designed earlier this year, based on the tall font Green Sovtek, which is more or less identical to the Civil War. They did an amazing job!

  14. Meadowser says:

    Hi Björn, i’m having some trouble to decide what Muff clone will sound right with my setup, i’ll pair the pedal with Vick’s TreeOfLife and MooerEleclady along my Fender HotRodDeluxe.

    I’m really divided between the Vick’s ‘73 and the Pig Hoof clones that seems to have much more aggressive tone.

    All the best, Meadowser

  15. Gabriele says:

    Hey Bjorn! I just saw that BYOC has come out with a smaller, cheaper version of the Large Beaver, named Lil’ Beaver. It hasn’t got the tone switching knob (which is now 4-way on newer versions of the Large Beaver), but it still sounds great and identical to vintage Muffs in demo videos.
    Did you ever try one? What do you think about it?

  16. Ara says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    I’m thinking about getting the Power Booster to pair it with my Vic’s 73 Ram’s Head and/or B-FX Patriot and the Fire Bottle just for tone enhancement.
    I’m assuming I can use Power Booster with Vic’s 73 or B-FX Evolution that I use for clean drive. I use the TC Electronics Spark for clean boost, I would imagine Power Booster would be a much better replacement for the Spark!
    On the Fire Bottle review, do you literally mean first before Compressor or right after compressor? I have the Effectrode PC-2A.
    I’m also using the BK Butler Tube Drive for adding Midrange to my Fender amps and have it set for open smooth rhythm. would you recommend Fire Bottle for that and set the Tube Drive for light distortion solos.?
    I know there’s many ways to set them up, but I would like to know how would you set up and use these pedals in which order, to get the most sweet spot tone that they’ve been designed for.

    • Ara says:

      Hi Bjorn,

      I can summarize my question above as follows…

      If you had the following pedals playing through DG Strat and Fender Deluxe Reverb and Hod Rod Deluxe, which effect would be best to use each pedal for and in what sequence.

      My current chain setup and effect usage:
      – Pure Tone Dual Pro Buffer
      – CostaLab Compressor
      – BK Buttler Tube Driver (Mid-range Clean Boost)
      – Buffalo FX Evolution (Clean Drive)
      – VIck’s Audio 73 Rams Head (light distortion/Drive)
      – Bufallo FX Patriot (Muff, Sorrow Intro)
      – CostaLab Chorus
      – TC Elec Flashback X4 (Tape, Tube, 2290 Delay, Stereo Echo)
      – Boss RC-3 Looper

      Thanks a bunch,


      • Ara says:

        Forgot to mention…

        I’m planning to get:
        – Buff-FX Power Booster to replace mt TC Elec Spark for transparent boost
        – Fire Bottle to either replace Vic’s Audio 73 or use it for heavier distortion effect somewhere between Vic’s 73 and Patriot.

        I would truly appreciate your thoughts and your insights on where the sweet spot is on each pedal and how would you use them if you had my “set up”.


    • Bjorn says:

      The Fire Bootle is designed for passive single coils and to be placed between the guitar and the first pedal. The Powerbooster will work nicely with your pedals. Compared to the Spark Boost, it’s got more of that vintage flavour and a wider range of tones, from clean boost to near fuzz.

  17. Sylvain Vaillancourt says:

    hi Bjorn what advice for a big muff/fuzz
    my gear
    Fender american deluxe
    fender blues jr.(Eminence Cannabis Rex.)
    BOSS CS-3
    ibanez ts-808
    Okko Diablo Plus
    boss DS-1
    boss HM-2
    boss CE-5
    TC Electronics Flashback
    Thanks you. Sylvain

    • Bjorn says:

      I would look into one of the Vick Audio models, with the 3-way mid range switch, which comes handy for your amp. You’ll find reviews here on the site.

  18. CLOUET Romain says:

    Hi bjorn,

    Do you think the big hoof is a good combination with an OCD fulltone, Buffalo power booster and a Dr No evil mother fuzzer ? I have a actually an big muff tone twicker… Thank you

    • Bjorn says:

      I would go for the Buffalo. The OCD has too much gain. I haven’t tried the Dr No so I can’t really tell about that one.

  19. Clive says:

    Hey Bjorn, i’ve searched the net and cant quite get an answer to my question, I’m sure you or the dedicated readers here will know…. I’m about to build a Big Muff, I can go for the Civil War or Rams head (or even the VRH) BUT what I’m looking for is the sweetest, less fizzy least /fuzzy, creamiest, least harsh, least aggressive and least raspy muff (and I don’t care too much about masses of gain, I’m going into a beautiful Laney Lionheart 5W combo – bought after your recommendation!) which of all the muff’s do you think would fit this? Thank you!

    • Bjorn says:

      At the moment I’m using a Vick 1861 with my Lionheart L20 and it sounds amazing. Spot on, to my ears at least, to what you are describing. It’s a clone of the early 90s Civil War model.

      • Clive says:

        Thats Great Bjorn, thank you for the quick reply. I’d love to be able to buy one of the Vick pedals, but money says I have to build my own :( so I think from what you’re saying; its the Civil War that is sweeter and creamer will meet my needs then? Thank you!.

        • Bjorn says:

          Yes, I’d go for the CW.

          • Clive says:

            Interesting, looking at the Gear for the ‘new’ pompei gig the CW was used for Sorrow and the RH for comfortably, which to my ears is sweeter and less raspy than sorrow, I appreciate their setup could be very different but If I had to choose based on those two songs and their sounds I’d have chosen the RH!

            • Alexis says:


              I own the 73 Ram’s Head and the 1861 from Vick Audio too, and the 1861 is clearly the smoothest of them.

              If money is a concern, I can suggest the new EHX Green Russian Big Muff, I A/B’d it with the 1861 and they sound practically identical to me, except that the EHX has a bit more volume and is just a tiny bit darker in tone.



              • Clive says:

                Alexis, You’re a star, thank you for contributing and advice! To have someone who owns both is perfect. My mind is made up thanks to your input…I’m going for the Civil War!

              • Phil says:

                It’s probably due to the Civil War’s gain set to 100% and the Ram’s Head’s to maybe like 65, that you get the impression the CV sounds more raw. Comfortably Numb was colored by the Mistress though, so not sure how you could judge by that :P

                • Bjorn says:

                  The CW has less gain than the Ram’s Head so the setting differences makes up about the same amount of gain. There are distinct tonal differences between the two though. The Mistress will make Muffs sound a tad brighter and smoother.

  20. Elia says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    what do you think about Big Creamy Muff by Hedgehog Stomboxes?

  21. Kevin McCann says:

    Hi Bjorn! There’s a new EHX Green Russian Reissue out and I was wondering what is your opinion on that one. People claim they sound just like the original Civil War V2/Tall Font Green versions.

  22. Sheila says:

    Hello Björn

    many thanks for your wonderful site!
    I’ve been using the BYOC triange for a few years now with
    my band and I’m very pleased with it.
    I use it with a Peavey Classic 30, a Strat (SSL5+2xSSL1)
    and a Tele (“vintage” low output humbuckers).
    I don’t use any booster as the mid filter on the BYOC
    does wonder to tweak the tone I want, at least for our
    music style.
    We recently wrote songs that need more bite.
    I don’t like that much distortion boxes and I prefer by
    far the sound of ram’s head Big Muffs for nastier sounds.
    Any advice about the model that would suit well my taste
    and rig? The BYOC ram’s head seems to be a good choice…
    Could a ram’s head with a booster be tweaked and tamed to
    sound like a triangle Muff?
    Best regards,

    • Bjorn says:

      Depends on how much top end and harmonics you want. The ram’s head is the brightest sounding of the Muffs but your might also want to check out pedals like the Rat or the Buffalo FX Evolution for vintage tones but more grit and mid range.

      • Sheila says:

        Thanks for your help! In fact, I already have a Rattler+ and a modded DS-1 but every time I had one of them on my pedalboard next to the BYOC Triangle, I did not use it. Compare to the BYOC, the sound seems to me much less defined, less complex… I decided yesterday to uninstall the BYOC and bring back these two distortions so that I can no longer compare. I must admit that they did the job very well but still, there is this thing with the Muff…
        Also, I carefully read your review on the Evolution and listen to the demos, I found the sound pretty impressive. It seems richer than the Rattler but this might be only my impression…

  23. Elia says:

    Hy Bjorn,
    recently Electro Harmonix have a new product.
    It’s the Green Russian Big Muff.
    What do you think?
    Now with my guitar and other effect, i use a Bass Big Muff.
    Do you think that the Bass big muff have the same sound like the Green Russian Big Muff?
    I would buy it, but I do not know if it is the same.
    Thanks so much!
    Best regards

    • Bjorn says:

      I haven’t tried yet but from what I can understand it’s a new design based on the original so-called green Tall Font. It’s not the same as the Bass Muff.

  24. george says:

    The Wren and Cuff Box of War. A funny thing happened. I bought a box of war over a year ago and didnt like it. Ive been trying to move it on for a year and nobody wanted it, even really cheap. Id tried it a few times and just gave up. Watched Pompeii and thought, ok, one last try. Plugged it in yesterday and now it sounds great and it kicked my rams heads, so its no longer for sale. It just nails the gilmour sound, (stray from playing that though and its still a box of bees) Weird. Putting a vick overdriver after it works too, or just alone.

    I guess you could say I became comfortably numb.

    hahahaha And now theres a new version in a regular size, and im stuck with trying to fit the huge one on the board

  25. Hi Björn! I see you’ve got Costalab’s Custom Muff on this list, but i feel curious about how you’d compare it to their Sun and Moon Drive.

    Best wishes, Johan

    • Bjorn says:

      Haven’t tried the Moon so I can’t really comment on that. The Sun and Custom is very similar, with strong ties to the early Big Muffs. I guess the Custom is slightly brighter, with more of that vintage vibe to it. The Sun is darker, has more harmonics and it sounds great on lower volume as well as when you crank it.

  26. Pete W. says:

    Bjorn, here is another muff you should check out from ZenZero.

  27. Ara says:

    Hi Bjorn… I recently purchased Vick’s Audio 73 Rams Head, to get the tones that you have played in its review. I have tried your review settings with +/- of each setting, but I can’t even come close to creamy tone in your review which was the main reason I purchased pedal for.

    Pedals BEFORE: Pure Tone Dual Buffer (ON), Effectrode PC-2A (ON), B.K. Butler (ON/OFF), CostaLab Chorus (ON/OFF) Buffalo Fx Evolution (ON/OFF Clean Drive).
    Pedals AFTER: Buff FX Patriot (OFF), TC Elec. SPARK (ON/OFF).

    Any advise on pedals, settings, or ON/OFF, to get your review tone?

    • Bjorn says:

      What’s your amp and pickups?

      • Ara says:

        Sorry, forgot to mention that. I have DG Strat with Fat 50 neck, custom shop 69 middle, SSL5 bridge.

        I’m playing through Fender Hot Rod Delux on 3.5 and Special Edition Delux Reverb on 4.25, and Flashback X4 using either one of Tape/Tube/2290 delays.

        With ONLY Effectrode PC-2A Compressor ON and 9 vol/12 Tone/9 gain settings on Vick’s 73 Rams Head through X4 delay. I get somewhere between fuzz/distortion decent tone. Any other settings, is like few dozen angry bees flying around!

        I’m using the Buff FX Evolution and Petriot for clean drive and fuzz/distortion. I wanted to get clean creamy overdrive/sustain tone from the Vick’s 73 like in your demo.

        Note: The new model does not have the Pie logo on it, everything else is the same.

        Thanks again!

        • Ara says:

          Correction… I meant 9 Sustain on Vick’s Ram’s Head setting.

          • Ara says:

            I would like to add as FYI… the tone knob on Strat is at 10 and normally I get my tone with volume around 7, but with Vick 73 R’sH, bounce buffer and Effectrode Compressor, I can only go around 5 on Strat volume.

            I also use – mostly for solos – B. K. Butler TubeDrive to boost/equalize the midrange with gain 12, Hi 2, Low 12, and barely engage the tube around 8, few clicks after engaging the tube. I’ve also changed its tube to Old Sylvenia AU7A… color tube which makes the BKB somewhat tame able in bedroom setting.

            I also have CostaChros -which I love madly, that I have before Vick 73. But either ON or OFF it does not make much difference.

            Thanks a million…!

        • Bjorn says:

          Sorry for my late reply. I don’t really like to suggest settings because they can be very misleading. Unless you the EXACT setup as me, it won’t work. Not to mention how the gear sound in different rooms and environments. Based on what you write, your setup and settings looks fine. However, your amp is far from a Hiwatt, which is what David and I are using. Fender amps has less mid range and compression, which makes a Muff often sound brighter and less smooth. Check out this feature for some tips on how to chose the right pedals for your amp… hope you get some tips there :)

          • Ara says:

            Thanks Bjorn… I’ve read your write up many times and appreciate your through knowledge and explanation.

            I can move the 73 Ram after my Effectrode compressor – before BK Butler. Would it better to move the ChorsLab after it as well?

            I love my dual buffer which makes a huge difference in my tone. Would you recommend just use the front-end buffer only and not the back-end one.

            Thanks as always…!


            • Bjorn says:

              I would place the Muff after the compressor and the chorus after all of the gain pedals. Buffers are best placed first so that they can drive the signal through the pedals into the amp.

  28. Tom says:

    Hey Bjorn, did you heard about the new EHX reissue of the Sovtek Green Big Muff? I’m sure it will be an interesting pedal

  29. Victor says:

    Do you have any experience with the OneControl Baltic Blue Fuzz? It supposedly sounds similar to early big muffs.

  30. Christopher Hockey says:

    Hey Bjorn, I bought the Red Muck but it doesnt have enough bottom end or sustain for me. What would you recommend instead? Really looking for as much bass and as much sustain as possible

    • Bjorn says:

      The MojoHand Colossus has tons of low end and gain so I don’think there’s any other Muffs that’s as extreme as that one. Check out the Buffalo FX Patriot if you want something between the Red Much and Colossus.

  31. John says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    Have you ever tried the JHS 73′ Rams Head. I’m thinking about getting one and am interested in hearing your thoughts if you’ve tried it out.

    • Bjorn says:

      I haven’t tried it but I really like the RH circuit in the Muffuletta so if they’ve used the same approach, then it’s definitely worth checking out.

  32. Francesco C says:

    Hi Bjorn,since you named also cheap pedals like the Behringer, can I suggest one for you to try? I don’t know if you know the Moen Fuzz Moo, I got one and there are many demos on the net. I found it very similar to the Green russian for pulse tone and incredibly cheap for its sound. I’d like to have your opinion.

  33. Lou Sutil says:

    My favorites are the Thorpy of course and the Deluxe Big Muff… I actually replaced the muffaletta with the DBMP on my board… I definitely wouod like to know more Rams Head settings for the delixe big muff… I visited Kitrae’s website but he only has 1 violet rams head setting… sounds pretty good…but anybody out there have more rams head settings for the DBM? Thanks

  34. James Bettes says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    A poor man’s option if someone can pick up a small box black russian cheap enough and have some good soldering skills, is to version mod it to be more like the Ram’s Head. The Muff circuit is quite simple and schematics are easy to come by. All I had to do was change about a dozen (plus or minus) components to match the values of the Ram’s Head. Cost about $10 in parts and an hour or two of soldering. I didn’t change the transistors and don’t know how much difference that makes (but the gain factor was pretty close to the specs for RH transistors. While I have no frame of reference for exactly how a Ram’s head should sound, I do find it removed the boominess that made the small box Black Russian less usable for earlier Gilmour stuff and sounds much better (to my ears and on my setup) for reproducing Gilmour’s tone.

    I will soon acquire a BYOC Big Beaver or a JHS ’73 Ram’s head and will post back with comments when I can compare the two. At any rate for the DIYers it is a simple (and reversible) process.

    There is even a sight that has a schematic of the Ram’s head version that the author of the site feels most closely resembles Gilmour’s. Just search ‘Big Muff pages Gilmour’s Ram’s Head schematic’

    I’d put the link but don’t know what your policy is on that.

    • James Bettes says:

      I made it to the music store today and compared it to a JHS ’73 Ram’s Head. Overall the sound was pretty close (close enough to not be able to justify buying the JHS). However, when matching the amount of fuzz/breakup in the lower register, the high end of mine broke up more than the Ram’s head (clone), which stays much cleaner in the highs (perhaps a key to Gilmour’s tone). Going to experiment with the value of the coupling caps to get that dialed in and I think it’ll be pretty much exact. When I find the perfect formula I will post a recipe if anyone is interested.

    • Bjorn says:

      Feel free to post links :)

      • James Bettes says:

        Hi again Bjorn,

        I’m ordering a BYOC Large Beaver and will post some links for comparison when I get it built.

        So a question on Triangle vs. Ram’s Head builds: I am big on David’s wall tones and later. Which build (Ram’s head or triangle) would you recommend for a slightly darker sounding HIWATT Custom 50 (1×12 bulldog combo Biacrown era) that tends ot have a bit of a darker tone than some HIWATTS? I was thinking Ram’s head but after reading more on it (and that you prefer the Triangle) I now am wondering if the Triangle might be a better fit with my rig. I also pair it frequently with a Boss Blues Driver (which tends to be bright enough to break glass, even on my darker amp) but I plan to mod that soon to tame some of the brittleness (although won’t be changing values, only upgrading quality of some of the caps).

        Cheers again,

        • Bjorn says:

          I think I’d go for the Ram’s Head. I do like the triangle but the ram’s head has that aggressive character needed for that period. It also har a bit more gain and top, which I think will go nicely with your amp.

  35. Tyler says:

    Hey Bjorn, what do you think about joyo pedals. I’ve been using their voodoo octave and it sounds great to me. I don’t know how it stands up against the muff as I’m not that familiar with its sound. I would love to hear your opinion on this. Thanks!

    • Bjorn says:

      I haven’t tried the Voodoo but based on the reviews I’ve heard it sounds very much like a silicon fuzz, although the ram’s head logo sugguests that it is a Muff but I don’t think it is. I’ve tried a couple of the Joyo pedals and they all sound very good and considering the price I think it’s well worth checking out some of them.

      • Tyler says:

        Thanks for answering! What settings would you recommend for it? I’m using a Marshall 100DFX combo and a Jay Truser strat (not the best rig but it gets the job done).

        • Bjorn says:

          Again, I haven’t tried it so I can’t really tell. Depends on how the pots are set up and how much they offer. Usually, fuzz pedals tend to sound best with the volume slightly above unity for a bit of boost and depending on how hot the pedal is, I often keep the gain somewhere between 60-100%.

  36. Michael says:

    Hello Bjorn, first off your insight and knowledge is unbelievable! …Thus I visit your sight regularly. I’m building my rig off theses two ingredients: the Gilmour signature Strat (finally able to get it!) and a Morgan AC20 amp. This is a bedroom setup and I would be grateful for some direction – which muff would you recommend? And for that matter, your opinion for boost and compression? A very sincere thank you!

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Michael, thanks for your kind words! I haven’t tried the AC20 myself but as far as I know, it’s based on the old Vox amps. Perhaps not the ideal amp for a Muff… at least not with Gilmour in mind. I think I’d I’d go for one of the Vick Audio models, which has the mid range boost option that’s needed for Vox amps. You might also look into something a bit more versatile, like a Vick Audio Tree of Life, Fulltone OCD or the a RAT (or clone). They will give that classic tone, with more compression and mid range, which will suit the amp perfectly. I’d prioritise a delay and perhaps an overdrive before a booster and compressor.

      • Michael says:

        Thank you Bjorn. Already putting our advise to good work with the RAT, and it sounds amazing!! Could you recommend a good compressor, booster, and overdrive that might pair well with my Strat and Morgan amp as well? Sorry for the questions it’s just that your insight is spot on!! And by the way thanks for the various videos your playing is excellent!

  37. Adam says:

    Hi Bjorn, I’m looking to buy a Big Muff and I’d like to hear your opinion. There’s only a few select pedals I have in mind because unfortunately, living in Canada there’s not many Canadian sites that have wide selections of pedals, and with the exchange rate, the shipping costs on non-Canadian sites get expensive pretty quickly. I play a Strat with custom wound pickups that have specs similar to the pickups on those relic Black Strats, and my amp is a Blues Jr II. I’m mainly interested in getting the tones Gilmour got in the 70s, so that’s why I was interested in getting something like the Vick Audio 73 Ram’s Head, but considering the exchange rate to order from US sites, and with the shipping costs and everything, that’s a bit out of my budget. The pedals I had in mind were the Mooer Triangle Buff, North Effects Red Ram, and any of the current stock EHX Muffs, like the Tone Wicker, Bass Big Muff, Little Big Muff, or any of the other current EHX models.

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Adam, Fender amps are not ideal for a Big Muff because the pedal needs quite a bit of compression and mid range to get that smooth fat tone. Still, the Blues Jr is your best option within the Fender family. I really like the North Effects stuff but do also check out the EHX Bass Muff. It’s very close to the old Sovtek circuit and by far the best sounding of the current EHX series.

      • Adam says:

        Thanks for the reply. Do you have any recommendation for which North Effects pedal would be best for my setup? The Red Ram caught my eye as it’s meant to be a clone of the original Ram’s Head, but I also saw your review here of their Violet Ram, but you only gave that a 5/10 for small combos/low volume. Do you have a reccomendation between these two for a Blues Jr? Or maybe I’d be better off with the EHX Tone Wicker, Bass Big Muff, or the Mooer Triangle Buff?

        • Bjorn says:

          Between all of these I’d go for the Bass Muff. Thing about ram’s, violet and triangle is that they don’t have that much mid range and the tone is fairly bright, which can make them sound pretty harsh on small Fender amps. Ideally I’d go for something a bit more verstaile that a Muff but the Bass Muff is probably your best choice.

  38. Johan says:

    Hi Björn!
    All do we love the tones from PULSE, my favourite being Comfortably Numb in particular. I’ve read your setup-guide on what pedals David might have used on the tour, and one thing always strikes me, the fact that he’s using a Sovtek B-M boosted with a Tube Driver (Volume Boost).
    For many of us that’s a fact, but i got a bit confused over the fact that the Sovtek seems listed as the dominating distortion unit for that particular song.

    Because whenever i hear that heavenly solo, a Muff never comes to my conclusion. The tone sounds so silky and creamy, nothing that i’ve heard out of a Muff before. But the pedal is still boosted slightly, so do you think that makes up for it? Also, do you think the tone is achieved by massive compression from the pedals and the amps? Maybe also from the electronics on David’s guitar?

    Cheers from one of your yellow-blue neighbours in the east! ✌

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi, it’s the combination of the Muff, the Hiwatts and loud volume that’s the key to David’s smooth Muff tones. The Hiwatts has the compression needed to smooth out that square wave Muff and the mid range to add the much needed presence. The fact that he playes loud, will also make the tubes and speakers produce even more compression and mid range. On lower volume and amps with less compression and mid range, like a typical Fender, Muffs will sound thinner and perhaps even a bit harsh. The Tube Driver is placed after, much like an EQ and he doesn’t really boost that much but rather use the TD like a tone enhancer, adding a bit of mid range and presence.

  39. Alexis says:

    Hello Bjorn!

    Any chances you’ll get your hands on the new Vick Audio 1861? They say it is based on the Civil War Big Muff.
    I’m looking for a CV Big Muff to nail the PULSE tones and I know you love the Patriot, but between the TD-X, Evolution, Boss CS-2 and Vick Audio 73 Ram’s Head, the gain section of my pedalboard starts to be cramped! :D
    So if the 1861 and Patriot are fairly similar, the friendly footprint of the Vick Audio effect could be my choice.



  40. Brand new to your site today (courtesy of That Pedal Show recommendation) and enjoying it immensely! This is an incredibly comprehensive list of Muff tones and therefore very useful. Only one downside, after reading my inner gear addict is once more awakened…

  41. Don says:

    I really should’ve just took your word for it , but I had to buy both and compare.The Mooer Triangle Buff is much, much smoother than the Big Muff Pi Tone Wicker. I tried a half-dozen times to convince myself otherwise, but after many hours of playing and trying every conceivable setting, the Mooer won every time. Time consuming testing, but at least I don’t have to wonder anymore. Mooer products have really blown me away everytime I use them.

  42. Lui says:

    Best soundig Muff on the list is the Thorpy without a doubt. And the best bang for your buck is the Deluxe Big Muff… it says you can recreate almost every other muff tone with impressive accuracy… I don’t know aboht that though… I’ve been able to get triabglr and rams head tobes oh and also some sovtek tones but Kit Rae’s website only has about 4 conparisons… I wish they would put more deluce big muff settings so people can see how versatile it is!
    For the price it is the original and in many ways the best sounding one if you find the sweet spot… but the active EQ on the Thorpy is very hard to beat… you can keep as much low end and add high wnd and keep both… unlike the tone knob that either makes it darker or brighter… but the deluxe muff has a bass boost that adds tobs of low end! And also the attack knob is amazing! It blends your original signal to add your original attack… makes it great to play chords or just keep everything clear and articulate. The muffetta I did not like… the rest are all ok, they are great pedals… except the Velvet Fuzz… it sounds great on its sweet spot but I have found that many pedals sound different , not very constant. Also, it only has the Gilmour tone, you can’t do many other fuzz tones.
    Buy the Thorpy if you have the money and already own other original Big Muffs, if not but the Deluxe Big Muff, you will be impressed.

  43. I’ve used a Wampler Velvet Fuzz for a while. I think it gets much closer to the Eric Johnson sound than the Gilmour sound. I wish it had a working tone knob. As it is, the tone knob is much more of a decoration than something that really shapes the sound.

  44. Mathias says:

    Hi Björn,

    Thanks for many hours of reading.

    I really want to nail the tone in Marooned. I’ve tried many combinations on my set-up but I can’t find the right tone.
    Do I really need at Fuzz or Big Muff? Hope you can help.
    EJ strat + fender 57 deluxe amp. + Pro Co RAT and TS808 + T-Rex Replica.

    Kind regards Mathias

    • Mathias says:

      ..Sorry. -What I think i’m trying to ask you about is if I should try either a Buffalo fx TD-X or the Evolution as you recommend. Thanks.

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Mathias! For the recording of the song, David used his red Strat with the EMG pickups into a combination of a Hiwatt and Fender Bassman. Effects were a compressor, Tube Driver and delay. I would go for something similar, like a Fulltone OCD or Boss BD2. I think the OCD will be the closest, given your amp. A Muff, fuzz or, in your case a RAT, is a bit too much for this song.

  45. Alex says:

    Hi Bjorn! First of all, thanks for all your hard work, and making life much easier for us, “D” fans. Tnx my friend. I have just one question for you. Should you recommend me to buy buffalo fx patriot (in small box) for Pulse and Delicate sounds? Is less box, less sound in this case? I can buy it for about 150 euros. Do you think it’s fair price for that kind of pedal? Do I need some kind of booster? You said that it’s the same circuit, but I just wanted to check if it’s sonically different. I trust you. Greetings from Belgrade. Thanks.

  46. Nicholas says:

    Hi Bjorn! Happy New Year! Thank you once again for taking time to answer all our questions and what not. I’m days away from ordering a Big Muff Clone but am stuck once again when it comes to which one to get. I’m looking at the Jam Pedals Red Muck, the Buffalo FX Patriot, the Buffalo FX Rams Head and the Vick Audio. The thing is, I live Cyprus so I have all Jam Pedals readily available at music stores here, so I can easily go and pick up a Red Muck tomorrow, after having tried it and bargained a price and I don’t have to pay any postage or anything… If I want to buy one of the other three, I have to order them from the US which means expensive postage. Do you think the three I’ve mentioned are significantly better than the Red Muck so that it would make sense to get one of those or would the Red Muck cover all my needs (to be able to have a Muff Clone to cover all of Davids Muff tones)? In other words, is it worth ordering a pedal online and waiting for it to arrive and all that hassle or is the Red Muck fine? I use a Fender Strat with a Peavey Bandit amp but am looking to replace the amp at some point in the near future. I have a Boss Blues Driver and a Tube Screamer as overdrive pedals. Thanks for replying in advance!

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi, first of all I’m not sure of your Bandit amp is the ideal amp for a Muff. You mention that you will replace it and I’m sure you can get some decent tones with some tweaking but I wouldn’t expect a Muff to sound as smooth and big as with some better suited amps. All of the Muffs you mention sound great so it’s more a matter of nuances and which Muff voicing you prefer. The Red Muck is kind of a mix between a triangle and Sovtek, which will provide some musical and smooth tones.

      • Nicholas says:

        Thanks for you reply! I will be going abroad to study very soon and so will either buy a Laney Cub or a Blues Jr to have in my room. My main concern is if the Red Muck will be able to get The Wall, the Final Cut and Animals tones. Also, do you think that the tube Screamer or the blues driver would be better to boost a muff?

        • Bjorn says:

          For Muff tones, I’d go with a Cub. And yes, the Red Muck will get you there. for boosting I’d go with a Tube Driver or somthing similar, like he Boss BD2. A Tube Screamer has lots of mid range and compression, which often makes a Muff sound choked and too dark.

          • Nicholas says:

            Will do! Thanks for the advice. I went and tried the Red Muck yesterday and played around with it for a while and it really is a great pedal. I am going to buy it on Saturday. What did you do to get Floyd tones out of it?

  47. Sutil says:

    Very dissapointed how the Fallout Cloud is rated… 8 out of 10 is not bad, but relative to the other pedals rated here, it seems a little biased.
    The Thorpy pedal is defintwly hands down the best sounding pedal on this list…. but oh well, what do I know?

    • Bjorn says:

      Says who? All my reviews are subjective and based on my opinions alone. I’m sure not everyone agrees but I can’t give a pedal full score just because someone claim it’s the best. Tone is subjective and that’s why I always tell everyone to cross reference my reviews with others to get more opinions.

  48. Manolo says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    I really enjoy your reviews! I was wondering what you think about the Dirty Beaver Rams Head. I’m considering buying it but I’m not sure. You should make a review on it. I would really appreciate it.

  49. Jack says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    What a great site you have. I have a few questions for you.
    I’m building a new pedalboard with a lot of varieties of pedals.
    my setup is Fender with DG 20, Dunlop Wha, Boss CS-2, Soothsayer, Buffalo TD-X, Bad Monkey, Drybell Vibe, Mooer Fanger, Nova Delay-1, Boss CE-3, Boss RC-3, Fender Twin red button. I am a living room player.
    I’m looking for a good Muff for the Gilmour sound DSOTM/PUlSE/GDANSK.
    I know I come close with the Soothsayer and TD-X .
    But stil I am looking around for a good Muff that go with my Fender Twin.
    The Musket and the Costa Lab sounds and seems good or are there better choises.
    So what is your advice.?
    What do you think of my setup?

    Greetings Jack

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Jack! As you may know, Fender Twins and Muffs can be a challenge as Muffs often need a bit of mid range and compression to sound smooth, and the Twin doesn’t have much of either. A Sovtek model, like the Buffalo Patriot, might be your best choice but I think you’re better off with the Soothsayer. To be very honest…

  50. Paul Cousineau says:

    Hello Bjorn

    Thank you so much for all your effort in posting such great information .

    Based on your recommendation I have recently purchased a Blackstar HT 20 head. I love it very much . But I have a problem with my Vic audio ram head.

    Before I played it in a very little cheap amp with 8 inch speaker and it sounded really good to me . Now I’m having trouble getting the same bite and Throughty character. I’m playing at bedroom level maybe I should have gone for the Ht 5 instead? Or maybe that my cab is not the right one . My head is connected to a Peavey 4 x 12 cabinet . I’m thinking of getting something smaller do you think it would help?

    Any comment would be appreciated thank you very much .


    Hull Quebec.

    • Bjorn says:

      What sort of amp did you have? Have you replicated the setting from your old amp? The Blackstar has a typical Marshall tone, with lots of mid range and compression, which can make some Muffs sound bright and too aggressive. Try back down the treble and mids on your amp and experiment with both the clean channel and gain channel, keeping the gain low on the gain channel. You probably want the master volume lower than the channel volume but again, experiment.

  51. Aaron says:

    Hi Bjorn! Fan of your work for ages now. Wondering if you might be able to suggest a Muff/clone/kit to me as I have a knack for picking the wrong one. Started with the slim black Russian (kept the wooden crate) and now I’m on a Little Big Muff. My Strat is an all stock (except for the block) MiM 50’s Classic, amp is a ’65 DRRI and I have a Soul Food or an MXR Wylde OD at my disposal as well. Ideally I’d be looking at something in the same price range as a Soul Food… I know you’re likely a busy fellow but I’d really appreciate if you could point me in the right direction.

  52. Trevar says:

    Hi Bjorn, about to step out of the modeling amp world and into tube amps. Going to most likely pick up a Fender Blues Jr. and swap speaker to a Cannabis Rex or a Thames. Was hoping you could steer me into the right direction with pedals with that amp, as I am seeing most stores don’t carry a lot of these. Looking into: Compressor- undecided, Univibe- Drybell Vibe Machine, Phaser- MXR Phase 90 script, Muff- maybe 73 Rams Head or Electronic Orange Pig Hoof, Boost- TopTone Shine Boost, Tube Driver- Buffalo FX TD-X, Mooer ElecLady, and Analogman EHX Deluxe Memory Man. Will these choices work or are there better options for my setup? Using a Strat and Tele and strictly a home player. Finally should those pedal cover most of Floyd and Bjorn territory or is there something I am missing or do not need? Muff choice has got me the most confused. Thank you in advance for any wisdom!

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Trevar, for the Blues Jr I’d go with the Cannabis. The amp is very bright so for David’s tones, you’d want to tame that top end a bit. The Thames would be all too bright. Your choice of pedals should go nicely with the amp. Muffs often sound bright and harsh on Fender amps, although they do sound better with the Blues Jr. I’d look into a more versatile distortion, like the Fulltone OCD, Buffalo FX Evolution or similar. The TD-X, as an overdrive goes nicely with the Blues Jr.

  53. Jesse says:

    Could you tell me what you think of the Stone Deaf Fig Fum? Also what do you think of the Vick Audio Violet Ram’s Head clone? Will that do as good as the Pig Hoof?

  54. Richard says:

    Hi Bjorn. It’s haunting me; what do you think/know that David is using during Sorrow at the Strat Pack concert? It sounds very crunchy, I would say the G-2? Thanks, Richard (Looking forward to your new album by the way!)

  55. Chris says:

    Hey Bjorn,
    As mentioned in all the replies, you have created a great review of pedals here. I am a huge Pink Floyd and smashing pumpkins fan, and love the Pulse, and Siamese Dream albums tones. I have owned several different muffs as well as other fuzz pedals. I am very close to making the jump on the Vick audio 73′ rams head for starters, to hopefully get the range of Floyd I desire, but I’m still up in the air about the Smashing Pumkins Siamese Dream sound. Billy Corgan used the mid 70’s op-amp circuit big muffs. These are hard to come by, and seem to tend to be plagued with issues requiring them to be in the repair shop. I have found a couple “clone” type pedals that seem pretty accurate, but just wondering if you have had the opportunity to try them out for yourself. The first is DAREDEVIL PEDALS ’77 IC OP-AMP FUZZ V5 CREAM/VIOLET. Really good video by Chicago music exchange and accurate sounding pedal, but I came across another, Wowpedal “Hello Meow”- Analog. Opamp. Fuzz. Big Muff Pi Fuzz. The tone in the video seems pretty accurate, but the video is short, there is no narration, and there is very little info to be found on the company. I like this pedal as well due to its size. It’s smaller like the Vick Audio (MXR size) which is ideal for me as I am trying to minimize the pedalboard I use and the smaller the pedal without compromising the tone characteristics the better.

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Chris! The OP-amp Muff has never been a favourite of mine, so I don’t have much experience with trying different clones etc. I know the Sovtek Muffs are probably your closest match and, as you probably know, a lot of the early 90s grunge bands used these. There are lots of great clones out there, like the Buffalo FX Patriot and you might want to check out the Skreddy Rust Rod as well, which is somewhat similar to the OP-amp and Sovtek. The Vick will come close but it’s a ram’s head and the overall tone is brighter, with less low end.

  56. Jack says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    As first what a great site you have.
    I’m looking for a muff, my setup is: Fender strat EMG DG20, Dunlop wah, Boss CS2, Columbus Dist., Buffalo TD-X, Bad Monkey, DryBell Vibe, Boss C3, TC Nova Delay, Boss RC 3, Fender The Twin Red button.
    Bedroom settings.
    Now my question what for Muffs would you advise For DSOTM/ Delicate/ Pulse sounds ?

    Greetings Jack

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Jack, sorry for my late reply. I usually recommend something differnt for Fender amps, as their lack of compression and mid range, can often make a Muff sound bright and harsh. The Sovtek Muffs works OK, so check out the EHX Bass Muff and other Sovtek/Civil War Muff clones. You might also want to look into more versatile pedals, still with a Muff flavour, like the Rat, Buffalo FX Evolution etc.

  57. Velanga says:

    Hi Bjorn! I’m having a little problem with volume and I wonder if you can help. At the moment I’m using a Fender Stratocaster 70’s reissue with stock pickups into a Hartke GT60 and I recently bought a Ibanez TK999OD to run as Gilmour’s Tube Drive and a CostaLab Custom Fuzz. The volume between the TK999OD and the Amp it’s pretty easy to match, but when I turn on the CostaLab it just get TOO loud. If I turn the TK999OD with the Custom Fuzz, sounds amazing, but the volume blows the roof off. The GT60 has a Effects Loop in and out, at the moment I’m plugging booth drives in front of the amp. How do I control the volume between clean, TK999OD and the Custom Fuzz?

    • Bjorn says:

      Is the fuzz placed after or before the Ibanez?

      • After. One Thing that I’ve noticed it’s that this Costalab is freaking noisy. I figured it out that somehow, the volume knob was replaced with the distortion know, so I was turning down the distortion and turning up the volume, that’s why the volume was SO loud. But I still having issues with that muff. I don’t know if all the muffs are that loud or there’s something wrong with mine, but it captures so many noises and make it impossible to leave my hand of the guitar neck without turning the volume off.
        I didn’t find any article about amps FX output. Do you use it?

        • Bjorn says:

          But you’re using the TK to boost the fuzz? Keep in mind that stacking two or more gain pedals will create some noise, depending on how much gain each pedal has. It’s just the nature of things. The TK also has a lot of mid range and compression, which is not ideal for stacking. Try using a more scooped and cleaner pedal for boosting, like a TC Spark Booster, BD2 or a Powerbooster clone.
          Check out this feature for some insights on the FX Loop.

      • The fuzz is placed after the OD. I finally figured out that the knobs are miss placed, so the Volume is the right knob and the distortion it’s in the left. But it`s still so freaking noisy and I don’t know if is it normal or the pedal have some king of issue. When I turn the Fuzz on I feel like I woke up a wild beast, I have to immediately turn the guitar volume down and only turn it up if I`m sure that I’ll play right after. Two more questions….do you use the Effects loop on your amp and any chance that you’ll do the settings and setup from the Rattle That Lock album and tour?

  58. Chris says:

    Hey Bjorn, ever have a look at the Daredevil Pedals Black Yorba Fuzz? Handmade in Chicago IL and based on the green, “bubble font” Sovtek. Only demos online are in the stoner rock/metal realm, but it looks like a good bet and for cheap (they’re going used on Reverb for < $100 USD).

  59. Nicholas Love says:

    Hello Bjorn! Quick question for you… I’ve been through a lot of Muff clones before finally getting a RH-X and a Patriot. I’m now fully converted to Buffalo FX. Probably my favorite thing about their muffs is how powerful but articulate they are. Steve seems to have a phenomenal understanding of how to maintain tonal clarity even under high gain. I’m always looking for new muffs, of the ones you’ve tried, are there any others that share these characteristics?

    • Bjorn says:

      I’ve always been a huge fan of the Electronic Orange Pig Hoof. It’s been my main Big Muff for years. It’s got that same huge character but lots of harmonics and nuances as well. It’s very scooped though, which can be a drawback on some amps. I also think Skreddy makes some amazing stuff and the Rust Rod is, for me, right up there with the best.

      • Nick Love says:

        Thanks for the tip! One of my favorite Muff tones is the solo on Your Possible Pasts. I’ve had some trouble getting that tone with many of the mids-boosted muffs, so I think the Pig Hoof should be the next stop because the scoop may be just what I need to get this sound. I am using a strat into a Laney Lionheart 50 and I usually just use a muff and a Nova Delay.

  60. Dimitri says:

    HI Bjorn! Thanks for your amazing site. I love all the great info. I was wondering why no Stomp Under Foot stuff is listed at all on this page? They make really goof muff clones.

  61. armand says:

    Hello you don’t talkie-walkie about noise level for the buffalo fx evolution.
    Have you got news about the buffalo fx m1for guilmour sound ?

  62. ronnie says:

    hi Bjorn i been reading your review on clone pedals trying to get the sound of vintage pedals i have a couple of good boutique clone pedals like big muff rams head russian green muff that i purchased on reading your reviews that you recommend im very happy with this pedals they work very well but i have couple of vintage pedals 1974 rams head 1990 civil war 1994 russian green muff 1978 electro harmonic deluxe flanger now since 2 years i have been trying the clone pedals v vintage pedals and to my taste the sound that i get from the vintage pedals is a level higher but clone pedal will always be on my pedal board but if i want david gilmour sound to be the closest match il go with my vintage pedals if one day you have the chance to see the wall theatre experience it is a group hear in canada quebec i recommend thanks for reading

  63. Eric says:

    Hi Bjorn. Do you know when you will be doing a demo of the Buffalo M-1. In pursuit of a muff/fuzz, and really interested in this pedal. Thank you Eric

  64. jj says:

    Bjorn, perhaps this has already been asked & answered but I couldn’t find it in any of the comments. What is your opinion of Wren & Cuff’s Violet World? What score would you give it, assuming you’ve tried it? Thanks in advance for your time!

  65. Regan says:

    Hi, curious to know your thoughts on Basic Audio’s Tri Ram Muff? : )

    • Bjorn says:

      Haven’t tried it :)

      • Nick Love says:

        To Regan – I have that muff. I think it’s overall very good. Pretty articulate, but it can be dark compared to others. Also, INCREDIBLY loud. I have to set my RH-X at about 70% to match the Tri Ram Muff at about 30%. I think it’s a good pedal, but not maybe the best available at that price point. My main complaint is that is seems to lack a certain harmonic sweetness that other clones I’ve played (VA 73 Ram’s Head, TopTone DG-1, Blackout Effectors Musket, Buffalo FX RH-X) have.

  66. Jacob Allen says:

    Hey Bjorn! I thought I would stop by again to ask you opinion on how you feel about the EQD Hoof vs the Mojo Hand Iron Bell.

    I have been building a board for the last couple years. It’s sort of a hybrid between Jimmy Page and David Gilmour’s style. I had been sold on the Iron Bell for my muff tones, and bought the pedal. It sounds great! Now I’m near the end of my journey and I recently heard the samples of the Hoof. I bought a Tone Reaper to cover some tone bender tones and I know that the Reaper and the Hoof play nice because they are packaged together. In your opinion, is the Hoof much better than the Iron Bell or do you think I should just stick with the Iron Bell? I tend to like Gilmour’s later tones (90s, Pulse, Island) if that helps any. Thanks again for always answering my questions with thoughtful responses.


    • Bjorn says:

      They’re two different pedals. Obvisouly, both are based on the Big Muff circuit but the Hoof has a more vintage flavour, with more of those fuzz harmonics, less mids and compression. The Iron Bell is kind of a mix between a Muff and a Rat, which is what you get when stackig a Muff with an overdrive. A bit more modern sounding compared to the Hoof.

  67. gabriel tate says:

    Will you be reviewing the new Buffalo FX M1 pedal? I am going to buy one. I can mail you mine to review if you will mail it back. Im in the US

  68. Nicholas Love says:

    Hello! I have another question, this one pedal related. I have a Laney Lionheart and a Mesa Boogie Lonestar Classic combo. I love the Mesa for it’s cleans and pedal friendliness, but I’m currently using a 73 Ram’s Head from Vick Audio, which, to me, is a dark sounding muff. The Lone Star Classic is also a very bassy amp, so when i run the two together I get a very boomy muddy sound compared to when I run it through the Laney. Of the muffs you’ve reviewed, which one would be the best for a dark amp? You described the Skreddy P19 having a “hollow throaty” sound. Would that be the best one to get more definition and a have a less muddy character? Or would the Blackout Musket be a better option with it’s focus controls? Thanks so much and keep up the great work.

    • Bjorn says:

      I don’t have much experience with the Lone Star but I use the Vick 73 with the Lionheart, which I run very dark, and it sounds really nice. To me, the Vick is a bright Muff, with a scooped tone and lots of top end, which is the nature of most Ram’s Heads. You could try the Blackout Effector Musket, which has a very cool presence control or the Skreddy Rust Rod, which has a nice upper mids boost.

  69. Fran Henarejos says:

    Hi Bjorn
    I have a vick audio 73 ram´s head and a Boss BD-2 but i cant make it sound good, sounds too saturated and noisy even when i turn down the guitar volume.
    what can i do to make the muff sound better?

    btw i love your site :D

    • Fran Henarejos says:

      I Have a Fender MIM Stratocaster and Vox vt80

      • Bjorn says:

        Sorry for my late reply. The Vox amps aren’t that suited for Muffs. At least not for replicating David’s tones, as you need quite a lot of mid range. I would use either the flat or boosted mids mode on the 73 and be careful with the amount of gain. It shouldn’t be set any higher than around 60%. Try to set the amp as clean as possible and roll back the treble if you get any harshness. If it doesn’t work, you might want to consider a more versatile pedal for your amp, like a Rat or OCD type of pedal. Check out the Overdrive and Distortion Buyer’s Guide for more.

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Fran! What amp and pickups do you have?

  70. Hrvoje says:

    Hi Bjorn, I bought recently new JHS Muffuletta after I read review on your web site. So thanks for all info and review. Just want to know which settings you prefer and which mode you think is most useful to replicate Dave’s Muff sound? I would appreciate for all your suggestions and tips. I will combine it on strat with Dave’s pickups, and till few days I had only Marshall amp, and now I purchased Hiwatt head with 2×12 hiwatt cab ( purple Fane speakers ). Thanks for all! Regards from Croatia.

    • Bjorn says:

      Although Dvaid used a Ram’s Head Muff for the Delicate period, I think I’d use either the Sovtek or JHS modes, which has a bit darker and mid rangy flavour. Settings depends very much on your pickups and how you set the amps, but a good start is to set the volume to unity with the amp, tone around 10-11 o’clock and the gain fairly moderate.

  71. Andrew says:

    Hi Bjorn!
    Really excellent site and article!! Incredibly informative. I’ve been a big fan of David’s tones for years, and it is a sound I aspire to capture, and a massive part of that sound is the Muff. I’ve owned a few Muffs over the past few years, but never been able to crack the particular sound I was after. Closest I’ve gotten was probably the Little Big muff, which like you, I prefer to the current standard big muff, which I really didn’t like at all. Too boomy and dark and choked sounding with probably too much gain for my taste. I also currently use a Maxon OD808 which I really love, and I’m considering trying their OD9 overdrive too. But anyways back to the main topic. I’m esentially looking for a more articulate and controlable muff with a tighter low end, really clear midrange with great detail, and definition, and crispy top end like a ram’s head (I guess that is my main reference for good muff tones). So I guess what I’m after is a ram’s head with a tighter, clearer sound with more clarity, and definition on each note. Not looking for anything dark, boomy, or remotly choked sounding. I primarily play a Standard Strat with EMG SAs (best tone upgrade I’ve made yet, love them). My favorite Gilmour sound(s) is probably the wall period and the post-Roger era studio and live albums, especially the late 80s stuff. from what I’ve read so far it seems like the Drivegate DG-1 might be up my alley, but I’m not sure… so many muffs out there!! Lol Any suggestions or replies would be super appreciated!!
    Thank you! :)

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Andrew… What sort of amp do you use?

      • Andrew says:

        Fender Blues Junior III

        • Bjorn says:

          Sorry for my very late reply, Andrew. Although the Blues Jr has more mid range and compression than most Fender amps, it can make Muffs sound pretty bright and harsh. Especially models like the Ram’s Head, which has a very scooped mid range tone. The best Muffs for Fenders that I’ve played, are the Vick Audio 73 Ram’s Head, which has a mid range booster or, the Mojo Hand Iron Bell, which is kind of a mix between a conventional Muff and a more modern distortion. You could also go for something a bit more versatile, like the Buffalo FX Evolution.

  72. David Du says:

    hi, bjorn, I heard Electro Harmonix Germanium 4 Big Muff has 4 Ge tube, so it’s more like a fuzz pedal rather than a big muff, so could it be the good pedal for DG’s fuzz replacement?

    • Bjorn says:

      I guess so. Closer to the early pre-Dark Side era.

      • David Du says:

        got it
        but the best way should get a real fuzz face with Ge tube, right?

        • Bjorn says:

          Depends on what type of germanium tone you want. I think the AnalogMan Sun Face NKT275 is the closest you get to the classic Dallas Arbiter Fuzz Face from the late 60s but there are a million variations on that tone. The EHX Germanium Muff does a nice job.

  73. Hershel says:

    Hi Bjorn, I was wondering if the tc electronic spark would be a good booster to accompany either the Vick audio Rams head or the JHS muffuletta and if so what would would be appropriate eq settings?
    -Thanks, Hershel.

    • Bjorn says:

      I don’t think neither of those needs boosting as you can either choose a mode or setting that has more mids and gain. Still, the Spark is a nice clean booster, which should fit nicely. Which EQ mode you should use, depends on your pickups and amp. Scooped pickups and amp, would require a bit more mids to get that silky smooth tone.

      • Hershel says:

        Thanks, Bjorn!, as for pickups I am using the typical ssl 5 and 69 style Strat pickups and a bugera v22-v55 style amp, thanks again for the advice!

  74. Diogo Martins says:

    by the way, since I’m buying via to Portugal, does anyone know if I’m going to pay for customs with the Brexit going on?

  75. Diogo Martins says:

    Hi Bjorn, unfortunately I had to sell my Musket :( so now I’m thinking about getting one of the much praised (and much cheaper) Vick Audio muffs, but I cant decide which one to choose. I’m trying to get the tones from all eras, but keep asking myself “will the ram’s head be too agressive and bright to do pulse? and is the black russian too mild for the wall?”, is the triangle a compromise in between? I really need your help on this one, my rig is fat 50’s/stock/ss-5 strat into cub12 combo

    Thanks a lot

    • Bjorn says:

      The ’73 should be able to give you some nice Pulse tones on that rig. You might find that with the mids booster in flat or boosted mode, will get you very close :)

  76. Eddy says:

    Hi Bjorn. I’m using an Electronic Orange Pig Hoof. I’m overall satisfied with the pedal. You’re review was very accurate. It’s noisy though. What can I do to lower the noise? Thanks, Eddy

    • Bjorn says:

      Roll down the gain. The Pig Hoof has a lot of gain and low end, which creates the tone, but also some noise. How much, depends on how well your rig is shielded and how much headroom your pickups and amp have. Be careful with combining the Hoof with compressors and boosters, and always run the amp as clean as possible.

  77. Diogo Martins says:

    Hi Bjorn, I noticed you don’t recomend the muffuletta for Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk/Rattle tones, was it a mishap or do you have a specific reason for it?

  78. KEITH says:

    Man, I am so sad that you haven’t laid your hands on Stu Castledine’s V2, which if you have any faith in my opinion at all, I swear mine is the closer to what I hear on Animals than any Muff I’ve played, or heard. Unfortunately, there are NO GOOD CLIPS THAT SOUND ANYTHING LIKE THE PEDAL SOUNDS. I understand that it’s hard for people to get excited about a pedal they hear in poorly done clips, where the people obviously aren’t Muff players, or Gilmour fanatics, but I assure you, the pedal is very, very close to the perfect Violet Ram’s Head. If you ever get an hour with one, you’ll be delighted . I hope that you get the chance to review the V2, as I’m certain you’ll love it as much as I do!

    Peace to all, Thanks for the updated guide Bjorn, KEITH

    • Bjorn says:

      Cheers, Keith :) Well, you know what I’ve said… If Stu sends me one, I’ll make an awesome review :)

      • KEITH says:

        Yep, I’m still disappointed that Lindy spaced on me after he said he’d send you the pickups. I need to remind him, but having been broke, and my health issues having taken front seat the past 18 months or so, I haven’t talked to Lindy, or been by his ship since he said he’d send them to you Christmas before last! Maybe Stu would be easier to get a review unit from, he’s not quite as forgetful as Lindy has always been. It’ll give me something to work on!
        Peace, Doctor told me yesterday that he believes the treatment will make me the energetic, ready to go guy I was 4-5 years ago, about 3 months to go!

        Thanks for everything, Keith

        • Bjorn says:

          That’s great news, Keith! Hope everything turns out well. No worries about the reviews. There’s tons of stuff out there that I want to review for you guys, and as much as I want to check out Lindy’s and Stu’s stuff, I’m in no position to buy all these things myself. I’d go bankrupt within a week LOL! I’m sure something will turn up eventually :)

  79. David Du says:

    hi, bjorn, how are you!
    I just brought a Bass Big Muff Pi, and have no time to try it yet. And I would live to ask your advice about the pedal chain as: Keely c2->BBM->Tube Driver (12AU7)->DM2(3005 Chip)->maz18. Any advice? Thanks


    • Bjorn says:

      That seems like a good start :)

      • David Du says:

        Thanks, what do you think if I use 12AT7 on a overdrive Tube Driver? or it’s more suitable for a boosting TD?

        • Bjorn says:

          Depends on how much headroom you want. A AT7 is somewhere between a 12AX7 and AU7. I did use a AU7 at one point and got a very nice clean boost from that, but on a Hiwatt, which has lots of headroom, the pedal didn’t work that well for overdrive.

          • David Du says:

            Thanks Bjorn, I tried AT7 on overdrive TD, it’s more smoother, and not that aggressive than AX7.Thansk for your guide!

  80. Andrew says:

    Wren and Cuff makes a number of Big Muffs, in addition to the Box of War. I looked at a number of muffs, already having the Mojo Hand BMP1 and wanting to get more variety. I settled on the Vick ’73 Ram’s head. Looking forward to trying it out.

  81. Carmen says:

    Are you familiar with the ‘Wren and Cuff The Caprid’? It’s supposed to be a combination of all for Big Muff models that were released over the years. Here is what they list as the features-Original “3003″ style circuit board
    All carbon composition 1/2 watt “brown-tone” resistors
    Mullard “tropical fish” capacitor clipping sections
    Standard 2.1mm center negative DC jack (Boss-type)
    True hard-wire 3PDT bypass switch
    Extra heavy duty enclosure built to take a beating
    On/Off slide switch like the original units

  82. JJ POu says:

    Hi there!

    I really like your reviews and your “Gilmouristic” point of views :)

    I have a question, have you tried the Way Huge Pedals (from the Dunlop Company)?

    Thank you very much & greetings from Spain

    • Bjorn says:

      Thanks! I’ve tried a couple of them… The Green Rhino is a Tube Screamer, with a few different upgrades or improvements. The Pork Loin is a Tube Driver/Powerbooster type of overdrive and the Sollen Pickle is a nice take on the Big Muff.

  83. Alessandro Borges Cordeiro says:

    Hi Bjorn, Congratulations again for your great site!

    I Have, between my gain pedals, a Vick Audio 73 Ram’s Head, a TopTone DG 1, a TopTone DG 2, a Mooer Black Secret and a Dunlop Germanium Mini FuzzFace.
    I need to make better use of the space of my pedalboard, so I thought I only use three of them. Thinking of a versatile setup which, in your opinion, should keep in pedalboard?
    I can replicate fuzzface tones with Vick Ram’s Head or the DG 1?
    what do you think works best as distortion: the DG 2 or mooer Black Secret?

    Note: my overdrives are the BK Butler TD, OCD, TS 808 and Mooer Blues Mood.


    • Alessandro Borges Cordeiro says:

      I forgot to tell: my amps are Fender Blues Deluxe, with Jensen C12N Speaker and Bugera V5 to play at home. My Guitar is a Fender Stratocaster American Deluxe With N3 pickups.

    • Bjorn says:

      Whether or not it is versatile depends on what tones you want. A Muff isn’t that suited for replicating germanium tones, which have more of that overdrive character. The Vick 73 and DG1 are somewhat overlapping, while the Black Secret and DG2 are very similar as well. If you want to save space, I’d keep only two of these, choosing between the best sounding Muff and Rat style pedals :)

  84. Josh says:

    Hey Bjorn! Hope all is well! Thank you again for your unbelievable site! I was hoping that you might provide some of your wisdom with deciding between a few muff options-between the vick audio 73 rams head, the Bjorn modded VA 73 rams head or the Skreddy P19-what would you recommend for Animals era big muff sounds? I am playing a fender strat through a reeves custom 12 with a vintage purple speaker. Do you think the Skreddy would be best as it is a stacked pedal or do you think one of the vick audio options with a booster?

    Thanks so much again!

    • Bjorn says:

      Sorry for my late reply. Thanks a lot for your kind words! I haven’t played a Muff on the Reeves 12 but all three would go nicely, based on the specs. The Vick Bjorn modded, is tweaked to better fit my setup, with a tad more top and less gain but the 3-way mid range switch makes it really versatile. The P19 sounds very much like a Muff paired with a booster behind it, creating a very smooth and compressed tone. For your amp, I think I would go for one of the Vicks, as the P19 may be a bit too mid rangy.

  85. Greg says:

    I watched both reviews on the Pighoof and the Vick Audio 73 Ram’s Head and both sound amazing. It looks like you prefer the Vick Audio but the tone you achieved with the Pighoof in your video playing Mother is exactly what I’m looking for. Can you get the same tone or sound with the Vick Audio Ram’s Head? Thank you for all you do! I refer to this site frequently.

    • Bjorn says:

      Thanks for your kind words Greg! What amp are you using?

      • Greg says:

        Don’t have it yet but I’m going to order either a L5 Studio or L5t-112.

        • Greg says:

          I’m honestly not too thrilled that they’re made in China now though.

          • Jonathan Thomas says:

            Hi Greg, I’ve owned two UK L5t-112’s and I currently own a China L5H Studio…honestly, you’ve got nothing to worry about. I much prefer the little head for versatility in featured. I run mine through a load box and a Torpedo CAB and it sounds incredible. You won’t regret it.

        • Bjorn says:

          You won’t get them to sound exactly the same. The Vick has more mids, and a 3-way mid range switch for even more, and an overall more saturared tone. The Pig Hoof has a more scooped tone, with an overall more vintage flavour. The Lionheart can take both so it depends more on what type of voicing you want.

  86. Lozo says:

    Hi Bjorn!

    First, I have been reading and searching for informations on your website for a few months now, and I have to say it’s really awesome. Such a great ressource about DG’s tone and gear. Keep up the good work!

    I have a question: have you ever heard about the brand called “Wren and Cuff”? They make replicas of Ram’s Head (Caprid) and Sovtek Civil War (Box of War) Big Muffs. If yes, how do they compare to the Pig Hoof and Patriot for instance? If not, maybe you could ask them to send you one of each so you can test them :D That could be interesting. The very few reviews I could find were very positive.


    • Bjorn says:

      Thanks for your kind words! I’ve tried most of their pedals. Really great stuff. At that level, it doesn’t really matter what brand you choose. Most clones are really good so what’s more important is whether or not your amp can handle a Big Muff. If it can, then you need to decide on what type of Big Muff you want. Triangle, Ram’s Head or Sovtek? Most clones out there are either based on a specific pedal, reverse-engineered, or, based on different modifications on the circuit to emulate a certain Big Muff tone. Read more in the Big Muff Tone Tutorial and the Knowing what pedals to choose for your amp feature.

      • Lozo says:

        Thanks for your answer!

        Well, I have a little cheap transistor amp atm (since I study abroad and play at my place with low volume or headset most of the time, I don’t want to make noise for the neighbours) but plan to buy a proper tube amp when I’m back. Of course I would want to try some models first (including the Laney L20T-212 thanks to your review) and chose what type of Muff I want based on that. If the amp I chose has enough mids, I’ll definitely go with a Ram’s Head clone.
        I also plan to buy a Two Notes Torpedo Live, so no problem playing the amp at home.


        • Bjorn says:

          Well, I would decide on the amp first and then the pedals. Your current setup won’t go that well with a Muff but if you do decide to go for a new amp, you may want to consider one with more compression and mid range. The Lionheart is great but there are lots of different alternatives out there.

  87. Chad from Dallas says:


    I have a quick question. I am looking at trying either the Skreddy P19 or Mojo Hand Iron Bell. From what I have read from your reviews and many others, they are both pretty versatile at covering Gilmour tones, as well as better as stand alone pedals. I am playing through a TC Electronics G-system for effects and a Mesa Lone Star. I have also learned through you that Muffs often don’t sound good through mid scooped type amps and have been using a Soothsayer for this reason. I just keep getting drawn to a Muff though! Do you think either of these would be a good fit and if so would pick one over the other, based on what I have?
    Also, did you get my pics I sent of Davids board at MSG a few weeks back?


    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Chad! Very sorry for my late reply. Yeah, I saw those pics! Awesome stuff! Thanks! Both of these pedals should work nicely… or at least better than most Muffs on a scooped amp. The P19 has the smoothest tone, with more gain and mids hump but it can be a bit too aggressive. The Iron Bell is really great and it tends towards a hint of that Rat tone as well.

      • Chad from Dallas says:

        Thank you Bjorn. I got my Iron Bell a few days ago. Not sure if it will replace the Soothsayer or not, but it does sound very cool indeed! Thank you for the reply. I am greatly looking forward to the new Air Bag album. I am going to pre order it tonight!


  88. Paul Booth says:

    would you be so kind as to review the akai drive 3 switch? it has fuzz face and big muff clone all in one.

  89. Ben Ferwerda says:

    Hi Bjorn!

    Which muff do you think would best get me Pompeii tones all the way to Pulse era Gilmour? I used to have a Sunface Fuzz and a muff but pedal real estate has made me look for one pedal that can cover both bases. I play a Strat through a Fender HRD III. As always your opinion and suggestions are highly appreciated!

    • Bjorn says:

      I would go for something versatile, like a Rat, Buffalo FX Evolution or the excellent Bad Angel from CostaLab (review coming soon). They’re all capable of covering a lot of Davids tones and they also work nicely with a Fender, adding a bit of that needed mid range.

  90. Luciano says:

    Hi Bjorn, i’m thinking about buying the EHX germanium Big Muff, not only to play Gilmour songs, but also other 60’s tunes. As you’ve said in this post, that pedal will allow me to get some early Gilmour tones. However, if i want to cover more ground, using the overdrive channel as a power booster/tube driver, should i buy what type of big muff ? And should i place the “real muff” before or after the germanium muff ? My guitar is a Les Paul with p90 and my amp is a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe.

    • Bjorn says:

      The Germanium Muff might be a better choice if you’re looking for something versatile and slightly different than a regular Muff, which doesn’t really lend it self that well to blues and milder tones. You may also want to look into a germanium fuzz for even more accurate 60s tones. Mind that the Germanium Muff do sound very different from a rams head or triangle Muff so if you’re looking for something to cover as much ground as possible, you might want to consider getting one of each or, something like a Rat or the Evolution from Buffalo FX, which can give you a bit of both.

      • Luciano says:

        Thanks Bjorn. So i think i wouldn’t be able to do what I planned (overdrive channel from Germanium muff as overdrive, distortion channel from Germanium muff as a 60’s germanium fuzz and use another muff for “real muff tones”). Maybe a Rat style pedal would be a better option. In this case, which overdrive\booster do you recommend to match a Rat and a 60’s germanium fuzz at the same time ?

  91. Mark says:

    hey bjorn! I’m really looking for those pulse tones in my strat with DG-20s, and I was wondering if I should get the stomp under foot civil war or save up more to get the tube driver…

    • Bjorn says:

      As I’m sure you know, the Civil War is a Big Muff distortion/fuzz, while the Tube Driver is an overdrive. Two very different sounding pedals so it depends on what tones you want. You probably want both if you want to cover the Pulse tones. What kind of amp do you have?

      • mark says:

        I’m looking for a new tube amp also, but as of now I have a fender… should I get another fender like a blues junior or a Marshall or maybe something else? and what I meant was I already have a Nano big muffins a boss SD-1 but I wanted either the SUF to replace the muff, or the TD to replace the SD-1. I will eventually get both, but I just wanted to know which was the better choice first! thanks!

        • mark says:

          Nano big muff** that was autocorrect on my phone…

        • Bjorn says:

          Ive always considered a high gain overdrive to be more versatile than a Big Muff or distortion, so Id get the TD first. As for the amp – Fender and Marshall are the two opposites so I guess my best advice would be to take your guitar to a dealer and sit down for a few hours and just try a bunch of amps. Hear how some have more mid range, while others might have more headroom. Decide based on which you think suits your playing, tone preference and environment the most.

  92. Emi says:

    Hi Bjorn! this is an amazing site! I just can’t stop reading!
    I have a question, I have a Laney cub 12r amp, I want to buy my first Muff. I play on my small bedroom, with low volume and with headphones at late night. Is it ok if I go to the “Electro Harmonix Deluxe Big Muff Pi”? will it sound good and at that low level?
    I have a Fender Strat Standard Mex with the default pickups.

    • Bjorn says:

      I haven’t tried that one on the Cub (only a Lionheart and Reeves) but it’s very versatile and I would assume that you can dial in pretty much anything you want and need for the amp.

  93. Dave Spingler says:

    Hi Bjorn, love your site! I had a question regarding the Vick 73 Rams Head. How would you rate it in terms of noise when using single coils? I mean, I see above you have it as 10/10 for noise – does this mean that you found it to be relatively quiet in comparison to other muffs as far as white noise/buzz/hum/hiss (or however you want to describe it)? I ask because I recently acquired one used and it may be the noisiest muff I’ve personally used. I currently have a mid-90s green russian and a newer nano big muff, both of which are practically silent compared to the Vick, even using standard single coils and a booster (which raises the noise floor even more on the Vick). The thing is, I’m even only running the Vick with the sustain at 9 o’clock and it’s still noisier than the other two at 1 or 2 o’clock. Somehow this seems wrong and I’m thinking of sending it to Mike Vickery for him to check out and make sure that it isn’t something wrong with the pedal. I just wondered what kind of noise you’ve experienced with your own Vick using single coils and boosters.

    • Bjorn says:

      Hmmm… Noise isn’t always easy to explain. I have three different 73s and they’re all very quiet. Now, when I say quiet, I mean that the circuit is quiet. There’s hardly any noise coming from the pedal. However, the 73 has quite a lot of gain and it’s fairly loud, so you will experience more noise from the gain, compared to a triangle or Sovtek, which has less gain. More gain and loudness also mean that the pedal will amplify any noise that’s in the chain, which might be coming from the single coils, other pedals, powering etc. Placement of the pedal can also be an issue. Too close to a power source can create some low frequency hum. Next to a pedal with a special circuit, buffer or hardwire bypass can also cause some noise. Ask Mike for advice but I’d start with trying to eliminate as many sources as possible.

      • Dave says:

        Thanks for replying, Bjorn! The pedal is noisy by itself or in a chain, with an isolated power supply or with a one spot, and when in a chain doesn’t seem to be affected by anything else in the chain that’s not turned on, regardless of buffer or not. Different boosters when engaged naturally amplify the existing noise a lot or only a little depending on the booster (my bb preamp for example makes it much, much worse than my spark booster). I hear you on the Sovtek, but I will say that the Vick is nowhere near as loud or high gain as the nano big muff, but the noise is at least double or triple on the Vick even at very low sustain settings and this is what makes me think it’s the pedal. Same power supplies, same guitars, amps, etc and the Vick is a white noise machine when not playing (and it is still a little noticeable even when playing). I really love the sound of the actual effect, and it is really frustrating that it’s this noisy. I have been in touch with Mike and he’s willing to take a look at it, but by the time I pay for shipping there and back, I will have been better off getting a brand new one in the first place; not to mention if he wants to charge for any repair that might be needed. I guess I’ll send it to him anyway and hope that it’s a fixable problem and not some “nature of the beast” sort of thing where he sends it back saying it’s all good. I’ve owned several muffs over the years, but this is the first non-electro harmonix one I’ve taken a chance on. Mike said every muff he’s tried with single coils has been noisy, but this just hasn’t been my experience over 20+ years of playing (noisier than with humbuckers, yes, but not so much that it is as obtrusive as the noise produced by the Vick). I heard so many good things about the Vick, including your review and I felt confident that it would be at the very least as good as any EHX muff I have or have tried (and the actual distortion effect is in fact a lot better and more musical to my ears); now I’m not as enthusiastic. Thanks again for the reply.

  94. David Du says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    How are you!
    I just reviewed this post, and have an question about BD-2 and Tube Driver, that as you said.”the Boss BD2 could easily cover for a Colorsound Powerboost but it’s really a close resemblance of the Tube Driver and it works just as good as a booster as an overdrive”, and I have a TD as a booster, should I employ BD-2 as well? it seems similar as your comment.

    • Bjorn says:

      They’re very similar so it’s more down to whether you need a booster and a dedicated overdrive, which I think makes a more versatile setup :)

      • David Du says:

        Thanks Bjorn, I have a TD for overdrive, and one TD(12au7) for Boostering, and I just employed a ep booster, so I don’t know if it’s good enough for copy DG’s tone.

        • Bjorn says:

          The EP booster you mean? He’s never used a booster as such but the EP is great for adding a bit of life and punch to your amp, and it also has a tad mid range, which goes very well with David’s tones and for boosting overdrives and Muffs.

          • David Du says:

            yes! now here is my chain: Guitar-> boos cs3->tube dirver(OD)->tube driver(booster)->ep booster->tc nova delay->Laney irt studio (Clean Channel), any suggestion?

  95. Mark says:

    Hi Bjorn! I have a bedroom setup with a Dynacomp, a boss sd-1, a EH nano big muff, a TC electronics nova delay, a boss CE-2 , and a small fender amp. I also have a red strat with EMG DG-20s. I’m in love with the PULSE and Delicate tones, and I really want something better than my current big muff. The Sovtek Civil war muff was the first one that came to my mind to get, but I soon found out they are way too expensive. How do you feel about the Stomp Under Foot Civil War muff? I can’t find a real AB comparison on YouTube, and that’s the main way I find out how good clones are.

    • Bjorn says:

      My favourite Civil War Muff is the Patriot from Buffalo FX. It’s as close as you’ll get. The SUF is great too and worth checking out. Keep in mind that Big Muffs are moody beasts and how they ultimately sound, depends very much on the amp. Fender amps might not be the best choice for a Muff. Especially for those DG tones. You might want to consider a pedal that’s a bit more versatile, like the Evolution from Buffalo FX or something similar. If you’re really desperate to get THE tone, then you might want to consider getting an amp with more mid range and an overall darker tone.

  96. Lui Sutil says:

    No Thorpy Muffroom Cloud?

  97. Marc says:

    Great site seems to be finished or is it still going?

  98. Outlander2053 says:

    Hey Bjorn, I live in the Netherlands and i’ve been looking around for the Buffalo FX Patriot for a while in my own country but it seems like it’s only sold in the usa. How did you get yours?

    • Bjorn says:

      Check out the order form on their page or simply send them an e-mail and ask for the easiest way to order. They’re located in France, BTW :)

  99. Brian says:

    Hey Bjørn! I just purchased the Vick Audio 73 Rams Head and I must tell everyone that my 7 year search for the perfect Big Muff is over. I’ve tried dozens of models and just last week bought the newer Deluxe Big Muff from EHX on a great open box deal but then the Vick came up for auction so I’ve gotten the chance to A/B the 2 and there really is no comparison. Kudos to Vick Audio for such a spot on version that’s miles better for basically the same cost. It’s a shame that EHX is falling behind with the Muff and the Elec. Mistress and being upstaged by others for two of their flagship pedals. I find that the Vick is great on its own and really needs no boosting at least in a bedroom situation.

  100. Lui Sutil says:

    No love for the Swollen Pickle? “Sorrow” right there… And yeah Bjorn , you gotta talk about the Muffroom Cloud, you just gotta!!!

  101. Paul says:

    Hi Bjorn a have just recently found your website and was blown away by the info on here. After reading your section on muffs I tried driving mine with different pedals. I ended up with a great live sound using a bad monkey into little big muff into a boss dd 3 delay I could not believe with a tiny amount of drive how amazing the muff sounds. Cheers for all the info. P,S could you tell me what he used on obscured by clouds mainly The
    gold its in the. CHEERS PAUL.

  102. Jamie says:

    Hey Bjorn do you have any experience with the wren and cuff caprid? I’m curious how it compares to the Box of war

    • Bjorn says:

      The Caprid is a ram’s head type of Muff, with a fairly bright tone, scooped mids and an overall aggressive tone. The Box of War is a clone of the early 90s Sovtek Civil War Muff, which has much more mid range and an overall warmer tone.

  103. Pete W. says:

    Hey Bjorn,
    Skreddy is coming out with a dynamic mids enhancer. Looks like it will be awesome after a muff.

  104. Marc says:

    Hi can you help me i got a blackstar I’d core and Fender deluxe stratocaster with seymour Duncan ssl 5 in the bridge and ssl 1 in the neck and middle I got patriot but it does not sound very good can help with the settings or can you
    Recommend me with pedals for the amp I am useiing thanks

  105. Diogo Martins says:

    Hi Bjorn, it can never be reinforced enough how amazing this site is and to thank you for all the dedication and time given to us Gilmour fans :D

    Now, I’m a massive On An Island fan and that Castellorizon tone just give me the shivers, unfortunately I’m on a very very very, very tight budget, so I was wondering if the Germanium 4 Big Muff could be used as a rather poor man’s G2 as they both are germanium Big Muff-ish distortions or should i be better served with the Mooer Black Secret instead? I’m playing with a Squier Std w/ SSL-5 (bridge) and Fat 50s (neck) into a Laney Cub 12r combo.

    Thanks in advance!

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Diogo! Thanks for your kind words! Much appreciated :) A Big Muff is very limited, I think. They sound like a Muff and little else, so if you’re on tight budget I would suggest something a bit more versatile. The Black Secret is an excellent Rat clone and it does a very good job doubling as both a Muff and a G2 :)

      • Diogo Martins says:

        Thanks for replying, Bjorn :D
        The thing is, I already have a Musket, so the Big Muff part is already covered, but what I was affraid of was that the black secret would have too much gain to stand in as a creamy germanium overdrive, or am i just talking nonsense?

        • Bjorn says:

          It should provide overdrive tones as well but if gain is your concern, then check out the Mooer Hustle Drive, which is a clone of the Fulltone OCD. It’s capable of warm overdrive and saturated distortion.

          • Diogo Martins says:

            Yes, when the time came i chose the blues mood over the hustle drive because it could be used as a booster as well, but hustle drive it is i guess…
            thanks Bjorn, keep up with the good work!

    • Lui Sutil says:

      Nooooooo! Don’t get the Germanium!!! Get the Delixe Big Muff, or a velvet Fuzz.

      • Diogo Martins says:

        I got the Hustle Drive instead, although obviously its nowhere near the germanium OD, i can squeeze some nice Gdansk tones out of it, it filled that missing spot between my Blues Mood and my Musket :) But you think that the Deluxe could replicate the G-2 (or at least do a convincing impersonation)?

  106. Joaquim says:

    What Pete Cornish pedal do you think I should get?

  107. Noah says:

    Hi Bjorn, Great site. I spend way too much time on here! I just sold a few pedals and since I have some money to spend…how about a new muff. In your humble opinion, where is my money best spent…original Sovtek Civil War Muff, Buffalo Patriot, or other. I currently have the Stomp under food Red Army, and a Noel revu, but I can’t quit looking at the original Sovtek pedals. Do you think the originals are worth a few extra bucks? I typically play through a cranked Laney Cub w/ a black strat replica. I have a BK Tube Driver and Buffalo Powerbooster available to boost when needed. Thanks!

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Noah! Thanks for your kind words! Those old Sovtek pedals are getting very pricy so you have to decide if you think they’re worth it :) I’d much rather spend my money on a good clone. My favourite Civil War clone is the Buffalo Patriot. It nails that dark and throaty tone, with a nice mids boost and lots of sustain :)

  108. Arya Boustani says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    Nice to see you back. It’s probably hard to imagine how many hundreds of people are worried about you not showing up for a few days! Hope all is well. Thanks for getting back to me in the other thread.
    I’m still muff searching. Kinda obsessed!!!
    I just heard a couple of reviews of Noel Pedals The Cornet and Cornet Revu and they sound amazing!!!!

  109. Bernie says:

    Hi Bjorn I have a Blackout Effectors Musket which I like but I know DG favours the Rams head Muff pretty much on everything. Can the Musket replicate the tones of a Rams head, is it just a matter of scooping the Mids with an Eq for example ( as you know the Musket has quite a loy of Mids) Thanks again for your help.

  110. Hershel says:

    Hi Bjorn, great guide as always, what is your opinion on the caprid by Wren and Cuff?

  111. HRVOJE says:

    Hi Bjorn, i have problem with setup on my Russian Big Muff to create lead tone. I read all of your rewievs and I understand its a noisy pedal, butt its too dark anyway and hard to control on lower volumes ( my rehersal volumes ). What is you advice, what to do to get to similar lead tone as David’s? I dont want to buy another pedal, if I can jet close with this one. I am playing right now on JTM45 butt have also and Hiwatt SSD103. By your rewievs I think that maybe Vicks clone pedal is something I should think about if There is no answer for My Big Muff. Thanks

    • Bjorn says:

      The Russian Sovtek Muffs has a nice amount of mids, which will help them cut through, but they can sound fairly dark in darker amps, which your JTM45 is. You might want to pair it with a transparent and brighter sounding booster, like a Powerbooster of some sort (Vick Audio Overdriver or Buffalo FX Powerbooster). A ram’s head Big Muff , has a brighter and more fuzz-like tone. The Vick also got a mids boost feature, which will help it cut through.

  112. Arya Boustani says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    I’m buying a pre-assembled BYOC Large Beaver Triangle version. I know for Triangle sound it is your (or one of your) favourites. I was wondering if the difference with Ram’s head (let’s say Vick Audio 73’s Ram’s Head) is mostly frequency shaping that more or less can be achieved with a downstream EQ pedal or an EQ adjustable booster pedal, or it actually sounds different by means of response to picking, dynamics, chords, etc. something that can’t be achieved with a downstream (or upstream) pedal tweaking. So basically if you like to have the whole range of flexibility of both pedals, two separate pedals are needed (or a multi circuit pedal like Muffuletta).

    • Bjorn says:

      It’s two different tones and you can’t get that with just an EQ. The triangle is saturated and smooth, with a fat low end and rolled off top. It responds incredibly well to single coils, producing an almost fuzz meets overdrive kind of tone. A ram’s head has less gain and low end, but sounds much more aggressive and fuzz-like.

      • Arya Boustani says:

        Thanks Bjorn for your feedback. I got my BYOC Large Beaver triangle yesterday. I was wondering if you could share your setup (upstream / downstream active pedals that work in conjunction with BYOC Large Beaver triangle) and set variables for the BYOC triangle pedal, and wether it works well with buffer upstream of BYOC. I’m still working on setting variables but I found I get overwhelming amount of gain (output volume knob is only at 9 o’clock!!!) and sustain sounds too compressed anything above 12 o’clock and kind of chokes downstream tube driver. As a rescue if I reduce the sustain to let’s say 9 o’clock, sound becomes dull and looses its high end, and in that situation even the tone knob doesn’t quite help. I like the idea of having a mild muff sound just to smooth out my downstream tube driver that is set at over drive (rather than boost) even further, and add intricacy of muff overtones and character without sounding too dull and loosing too much top end. My Black Russian Big Muff does that very well and I thought if I can make my BYOC get to that point as the starting point (mild muff sound with a good sound definition) and then I build upon that for more muff character, etc. I guess DG uses Cornish P-2 upstream of tube driver set at overdrive so if I assume P-2 is sort of close to a mild muff, I’m trying to create that sort of scenario.
        Thanks a lot.

        • Arya Boustani says:

          Hi again. Just wanted to give an update. I opened up the BYOC triangle. Soldered a few areas and found out the EQ selector was soldered to the opposite side of the board so I think the order is reversed (far left -> bypass, etc.). I found a setting that seems to be working ok with some upstream, downstream adjustment. It is definitely smoother than my Sovtek (late black) muff and more usable mid-range but also less DG muff character. I know you mentioned Buffalo FX Evolution to get a more versatile pedal. I assume B FX Ev. has even less muff character than BYOC triangle. Perhaps it’s also smooth but also there is B FX Patriot which is probably not as smooth as BYOC triangle but right out muff character. I found out that some of the articulations can hide under the blanket of smoothness of BYOC muff unless I reduce the sustain, increase the tone to brighten it up, etc and even then it is still not quite there. So if you like to pick one muff with as close character as it can be to DG muff sound, but being sort of smooth with singing sustain while allowing subtle articulations to come out, which one is going to be that?
          Thanks Bjorn, and sorry for multiple posts on this issue.

          • Bjorn says:

            As I’ve said, it depends on how that Big Muff sounds on the amp you’re using it with but, without any consideration to the amp, I would say that the Evolution is great for On an Island type of sounds, while the Patriot is dead on the Pulse era. David, as you know, is more associated with the ram’s head than the triangle but the triangle is a great alternative nevertheless. I have always loved the triangle for its smooth and warm tone. It has a musicality and harmonics than none of the other muffs has. Regardless of what Muff you’re using, you should always experiment with the settings and hear how tweaking the controls will change the character of the pedal. Drive it hard and it sounds smoother and more compressed. Roll back the volume, below unity, and you’ll get more harmonics and more of that fuzz character.

        • Bjorn says:

          This is always hard to comment on because the total amount of gain you get, also depends on how hot your pickups are and the amp settings. A hot driven amp, which is also producing a bit of compression, will make your pedals sound darker and perhaps even muddier. A Tube Driver sounds great boosting after a Muff on some amps but it can sound quite muddy on other amps.
          My experience with most Muffs is that they can handle buffers pretty well. The triangle Muff has a scooped tone and can therefore benefit from a booster with a hint of mids, placed after it. As to the actual settings – this depends entirely on the circuit of the pedal, what you combine it with and its settings and the amp. My best tip is that you experiment and find the best settings that matches your amp and the total amount of gain you want.

  113. Lui Sutil says:

    The velvet fuzz is Gilmour in a box! Can’t believe it’s so low rated … True that is kinda dark… But makes it fatter and makes my ssl-5 more useable…
    Probably the best circuit on this list… Then the deluxe big muff sounds pretty darn good!
    I’m not for nostalgic imperfections in sound… If the russian muff doesn’t sound that good… Then it doesn’t and it shouldn’t be rated that high… Calling it’s imperfections part of their mojo… Ugh.

  114. I’ve just got a Mooer Triangle Buff (without even testing it…just with the info I read here!) and it is great!

    For solos, I tried a Boss-SD1 in both configurations, before and after the Mooer and before (as booster) I thought it worked so much better, killer tone. After the Mooer, I really didn’t like, not even close to a Gilmour Sound IMO.

    Best config so far for me:

    Mooer configs:
    Volume 55%
    Tone 60-65%
    Sustain 70%

    Boss SD-1 (as booster)
    Volume 50-55% (just a little bit more than 12h)
    Drive 55%
    Tone 50%

    Thanks Bjorn for this site, helped me a LOT!

  115. Hey Bjorn, I know it’s hard to keep up with all these things, but I’m specifically interested in your thoughts about Thorpy FX’s Muffroom Cloud? Many thanks for your time.

  116. Helmut says:

    I don’t know, if this is ok – but I could offer a brandnew Vick audio Ram’s Head, which I purchased from Atlantic Guitar – if that helps. Maybe Bjorn can give you my E-mail-adress, if you are interested. Bjorn, if this comment is not okay and against the board-rules, please skip it!

  117. joao bicudo says:

    Hi Bjorn!

    I live in Geneva Switzerland and I’m some troubles to buy a Vick Audio 73 Rams head because Switzerland isn’t in EU! That’s the answer that I received from the international seller witch is Atlantic Guitar in Scotland! It doesn’t make sence!!! Probably they aren’t interested in selling pedals… I wonder if Vick Audio EUA knows!? ?

    Never mind, do you think the EHX Big Muff Deluxe with all it’s range of capabilities is something to consider?


    Joao bicudo

    • Bjorn says:

      Contact Vick directly and share your issue. I’m sure they can help.

      • joao bicudo says:

        I will !

        Do you think the EHX Big Muff Deluxe with all it’s range of capabilities is something to consider or it’s just a waste of money? My muffs are EHX Bass Big Muff and a Mooer Big Buff.
        I’m pretty sure Vick Audio 73 Rams Head is much better! ;)


        João Bicudo

        • Bjorn says:

          Depends on what amp you have. The Deluxe is great and you can tweak it for a wide range of different tones but all Muffs are very sensitive to what amp you’re using. The Bass Muff is a great version of the early 90s Sovtek Muffs, which should work nicely on most amps.

  118. Alfredo Martínez says:

    Hi Bjorn, congratulations for this space you have created for Gilmours fans, sure your experience and knowledge are helpful when making a decision before buying guitars, amps or effects. I am in search of big muff and still do not know which is the most conveninte for my guitar Fender Stratocaster with standard seymourduncan SSL-5 pickups and amplifier Fender Hot Rod DeVille 212 III ™.

    I was thinking about the possibility to buy a Noel Cornet, you’ve tried this? or you have a better suggestion.

    Best Wishes,


    • Bjorn says:

      Thanks for your kind words, Alfredo! Glad you enjoy the site :) I haven’t tried the Noel Cornet but from what I know, it’s a clone of the early Sovtek Muff, which should go nicely with your Fender amp. You might also want too look into one of my favourite Sovtek clones, the Patriot from Buffalo FX.

  119. Gabriel says:

    Hey! What are your thoughts on the Wren and Cuff Caprid? Is is worth the buy or are there better clones?

    • Bjorn says:

      I’ve only tried it very briefly, which is why I haven’t included it in this guide (I will try to explore it more for a future update). It’s really well done and captures the ram’s head tone perfectly. I guess most of the clones out there are very good. There are small nuances between them so it depends on whether you want more or less gain, boosted or cut low end or mids etc. My all time favourite is the Pig Hoof, which, compared to the Caprid, has a bit more of everything :)

  120. Matt says:

    Hey Bjorn, first of all, thanks for this crazy good resource you’ve made here. I was wondering what your opinion on the JHS Muffuletta is. I’ve seen other comments, like the one above, that you reviewed it, but I can’t seem to find the review. I was recently told about it and got a chance to demo it, and liked it quite a lot, both because of the sound and the various options which would allow me to get a fuzz tone for other heroes of mine along with David. I’m looking to replace my EHX big muff which I got two years ago, which just isn’t cutting it. The only other fuzz I’ve liked is the Wampler Velvet Fuzz. Just looking for an opinion on if the JHS is worth the leap. Thanks!

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Matt, I haven’t posted the review yet, so no wonder you didn’t find it :) The Muffuletta sounds great! Highly recommended!

  121. Saul HUDSON says:

    Hi Björn,

    Meanwhile your review of the JHS MUFFULETTA, i rellay thinking of buying a good Big Muff for emulating Gilmour tone of different eras. What is your advice : Vick Audio 73 Ram’s Head ? Buffalo FX Ram’s Head NOS BC239c ? Buffalo Evolution ?
    I love the three !!!!!

    Thanks again man, your website is amazing !


    • Bjorn says:

      Thank you, Saul! The Muffuletta is really great and well worth checking out. For vintage tones I’d go for the Vick ’73… between the ones you mention :)

  122. Helmut says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    are Vick Audio pedals available in Europe? I’d love to order a V3 or V1 Ramshead, but couldn’t find a dealer in Europe.
    Would the Electronic Orange Pig Hoof be a substitute for the Vick Audio 73 Ramshead?
    Thanks, Helmut

    • Bjorn says:

      I think Atlantic Guitars is the distributor for UK but not sure who stocks them. Send a request to Vick Audio and ask :)

      • Helmut says:

        Atlantic Guitar has no option for shipping outside UK and they didn’t respond to my E-mail yet. I will send a request to Vick Audio.
        Best Wishes!

  123. joao bicudo says:

    Hi Bjorn!

    I play a Strat with ssl5 and cs69’s tro a hiwatt t20!

    Do you think Viky Audio 73 Rams head will go along with my amp?

    Joao bicudo

  124. Jason says:

    Sold a few things last week and finally bought a Muff. Thanks for the Vick Audio suggestions Bjorn. I did end up picking up the V1 Triangle. Mike was a super nice guy to talk to, shipping was quick, and this thing sounds AMAZING!! You were right on how low the noise of the Vick Audio muffs are. VERY quiet.

    I kinda want to try his Black Russian next, but I really wish Mike made a Green Russian clone with the attention to detail and solidity he puts into his builds.

    Thanks again!!

  125. Chris Githmark says:

    Hi Bjorn. I really enjoy your site, you do such a great job with the reviews and I always look forward to hearing you play.

    I have recently “cleaned house” on my pedal board and am selling off pedals that have not earned a right to stay. I am playing a Strat with CS69 pups in the middle and neck and an SSL5 in the bridge out of an Egnator Tweaker 15 set to model a very clean sound, somewhere between a Fender and an AC30 I suppose. While I am happy with my delay (DD-20), modulation (DEM, CS-2, MXR EVH Phase) I am struggling with the overdrive and muff tones. I built a BYOC triangle and I think it is too noisy (I am sure due to my poor build skills, not the circuit design). I also built a BYOC Classic Overdrive (TS 808 clone) that I actually do like and plan to keep.

    I am looking for low noise and bedroom suitability. The Buffalo stuff looks really good, although pricey. I would appreciate your advice on the 2-3 pedals that you think would round out my setup. I am not seeking a specific tone from any period; I just want it to be Gilmourish.

    Many thanks,


    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Chris, well since you mention Buffalo, I strongly recommend their Evolution for versatile distortion/Muff tones and the TDX for boost/overdrive. They’re hard to beat and, although a bit pricy perhaps, you get a pair of gain pedals that will cover almost anything you want to play.

  126. Saul HUDSON says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    I saw that and … Waouh ! What do you think of it ?



  127. Nathan says:

    Hey Bjorn I recently bought the eathquaker devices hoof fuzz and the mooer triangle buff (based of this pages recommendations) and I love both of them, despite the triangle sounding a bit similar to the us reissue though (at least how I was using it). But I’ve always been unable to get much attack from my sound when using a fuzz pedal. I’ve tried using the Dunlop tortex picks for a better punch and it worked a bit better but I still couldn’t get the same kind of punch that I see you getting in your videos. I’m using a Strat with cs69 pickups into a boss cs3 and a few other pedals (both fuzz pedals included) into an h&k tubemeister 5 with a 1×12 h&k cab. I’m not sure if I would need a booster for more treble or if im just not picking hard enough or at the right angle but the attack just never shows through for me and the fuzz overthrows any attack i could get from a clean tone. Any idea how I could get that punchy attack when using a fuzz from my bedroom setup? Great article btw, helped me decide 2 great fuzz pedals.

    • Bjorn says:

      Sorry for my late reply. I’d drop the compressor and see how that works. It will only smooth out the attack. Also, try increasing the mids on your amp a tad.

      • Nathan says:

        Thanks for the advice. After trying it with more mids and without the compressor it worked quite well. My problem was that I wasn’t playing loud enough to get any solid attack. The extra midrange realy helps. Thanks!

  128. Jason says:

    I’ll just say that all Muff-type pedals rock for the most part. I’m tempted to just buy one instead of building one and the tone of the Vick ’73 RH from your demo blew me away, which is weird, because I’m usually a triangle kind of guy. Haha.

    Have you tried either of the Vick Audio Triangle’s?

    • Bjorn says:

      Actually, I haven’t. Love their ram’s head though. One of the first Muffs I played, and are still using, is the old BYOC 3-knob triangle. Sounds very dynamic and musical.

      • Jason says:

        Your demo of their Ram’s Head sounds amazing, hence why I’m looking into the Triangle. I had a 4-knob BYOC Triangle and loved it, but it broke (I still need to troubleshoot it) and I’m looking at buying something this time instead of going the kit route.

  129. Ben says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    Have you had the opportunity to try any Stomp Under Foot pedals? I’d be interested to know what you think of them. I’ve just bought one of their Rams Head muffs off eBay and I have to say that it sounds great! Huge and dynamic! Easy to dial in DSOT/Pulse/Gdansk tones, with or without a booster, in my case a TC Electronic Spark Booster.

    Happy Muffing,


  130. Heshan says:

    Hi Bjorn. Firstly, I’m a big fan of your site, and being a huge Gilmour fan, I base a lot of my pedal-decisions on what I read here :) Thanks for all the great reviews/advice and everything else

    I am commenting here because I’ve always wanted to buy some sort of Big Muff pedal, and I think now is the time. Based on the descriptions of the various versions, here and on Kit Rae, I believe a Rams Head version is what I need. Something like the BYOC or the Vick Audio

    The main idea is to get a Gilmour-like lead tone – not an exact replica (which is impossible of course) but the idea in my head is for a smooth sustaining sort of lead tone. However, I probably won’t be adding more fuzz pedals into my pedalboard for a while, so I’d like the Muff I get to be versatile

    Is the Rams Head Muff a versatile pedal? Can it go from a great smooth lead tone to a raunchy sort of raw sound, kinda like what Jack White gets out of his Muff. I ask because I think Jack uses the new NYC Reissue model, which I hear kinda sucks for the Gilmour-type lead tone

    I’d love to hear your opinion. Based on my location, it is a bit hard to get a huge selection, and definitely impossible to demo in person. So my choices are between the BYOC/Vick Audio Rams head clones, and a new EHX Big Muff Reissue or a Little Big Muff


    • Bjorn says:

      Hi! Thanks a lot for your kind words! Sorry for my late reply. I need to know what guitar, pickups and amp you’re using to be able to suggest a versatile Muff :) Let me know…

      • Heshan says:

        Thanks for the reply! :) Ah yes I forgot to mention anything about my rig. I currently play through a Vox AC15 and a Fender Telecaster (with standard single coils)

        I also plan on getting a Fender (or Tweed clone) kind of amp and I play an Ibanez with dual humbuckers as well, so it’ll be great if the same pedal works well with this sort of rig too, but the Vox/Tele combination is my main one

        Waiting to hear your suggestions :)

        • Bjorn says:

          Hi, again, sorry for my late reply. Been to London to see David at Albert Hall :) An AC15 and Tele isn’t the most ideal setup for replicating David’s Muff tones. Big Muffs needs amps with boosted mids and preferably something less twangy than a Tele to get that smooth violin tone. A ram’s head or triangle might work, depending on how picky you are, but I would suggest a Sovtek style Muff, like the Buffalo FX Patriot or the current Electro Harmonix Bass Muff, which is great! You might also want to consider something a bit more versatile and easy to set up, like the ProCo Rat or the similar Buffalo Evolution.

          • Heshan says:

            Lucky you, haha! Thanks for the reply. Yeah I guess it isn’t the ideal rig for Gilmour sounds. I already have a Whiteface RAT but I wanted something more fuzzy. I hadn’t thought about a Sovtek Muff, I’ll check em out. Cheers!

  131. Hey Bjorn,

    Please could I make a request for you to review the new JHS Muffaletta –

    I’ve requested (here that JHS sends you a pedal for review, hopefully they’ll sort it out ASAP!

    That thing looks and sounds good, covers all the major Muffs from Triangle, Russian to Rams Head, all analoge too! Can’t ask for more than that.

    Be interested to hear what your thoughts are on it as I reckon it could be a game changer for us Gilmour fans!


  132. Carlos says:

    Hello Bjorn,

    As always, love the site and I truly appreciate the “Gilmour Wisdom” that you have passed down to the masses. I have a question and a request.


    Have you been able to try the new Wren and Cuff Eye See Pi pedal? What era of Big Muff does this pedal strive to sound like?


    I was just watching a Paul McCartney video for No More Lonely Nights to see if my son could identify the guitarist playing the solo. I am a proud father because my son said, without hesitation, David Gilmour. Any plans to include a snippet of this solo in any of your future pedal reviews? Any consideration is great appreciated.

    Thank you so much and regards from Texas,


    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Carlos, sorry for my late reply. Thanks a lot for your kind words! Yes, David is indeed playing in No More Lonely Nights. One of my all time favourites solos! I haven’t tried the Eye See Pi yet but from what I understand it’s a version of the late 70s Op amp Muff, which many of the grunge used in the early 90s. Not that suitable for David’s tones but great sounding anyway :)

  133. Jason says:

    Hey Bjorn!! How are things on your side of the world?

    I’ve been looking for a good muff for awhile and was almost considering a Rat or clone as well, and then I found the Arc Effects Big Green PI. It sounds like it can almost don what I’d want from a RAT (heavy distortion a la Thrice), but I definitely want something that can do the “muff” sound well too.

    I had a BYOC Large Beaver awhile back (I’d built it to Triangle specs) and I loved it.

    Have you messed with the Big Green much?

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Jason, sorry for my very late reply. The Big Green is based on those old Sovtek Muffs, which has a lot of gain and mid range like the RAT. It’s still very much a Muff though, so you might want to look into the Soothsayer or Muffs like the Iron Bell or Fulltone Velvet Fuzz, which has a bit of both.

      • Jason says:

        No problem on the reply taking a few days man!

        I wasn’t necessarily asking about the Arc taking the place of a Rat or even going for a Gilmour-esque sound, I’ve just been wanting a muff again badly and thought the Big Green sounded amazing. I may still get a Rat at some point (or the BYOC Mouse with all it’s options ;-D ), but I know you like the Soothsayer and thought you might’ve finally messed with the Big Green at some point!

  134. Andrzej says:

    hi again Bjorn
    thanks to Your tips I was able to get close to my dream sound
    thank You so much
    regards from Poland
    Andrzej Kwiatkowski

  135. Carn Wright says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    Firstly, thank you for putting this site together and for the great insight you provide into the great world of David Gilmour’s tones.

    I am in the process of making my own setup which is based upon your suggestions but I need some help.

    Here is what I plan for my pedal board.

    Buffalo FX Patriot

    CVIII Silicon Fuzz

    Effectrode Tube-Vibe

    TC Electronics

    Pure Tone

    Based upon the above selection, do you think that the setup will be complete? Would you recommend adding anything?

    Also, what do you make of Effects Boards such as BOSS G10?

    Really appreciate your help.

    Best wishes,


    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Carn! First of all, I’d classify the CVIII as fuzz and the Patriot more as a distortion. In that sense, you might want to look into a dedicated overdrive. A buffer isn’t a must for this rig, considering the modest amount of pedals but it won’t hurt either. If you have to prioritise, I’d look into a modulation of some sort, like a phaser or flanger for those classic Dark Side-Wall tones :)

  136. Tony says:

    HI Bjorn,

    Would you mind articulating what you have observed are the tonal/sonic differences between the standard Pig Hoof and the Vick’s Audio ’73 after now having spent some time with them both?

    Sincerest thanks,

    • Bjorn says:

      Well, they’re both Big Muffs but within that tonal family, I’d say they’re very different sounding. The Pig Hoof has a sparkling top, very fat lows and a scooped tone. The Vick is more tamed, smoother and with less lows.

      • Tony says:

        Thank you. And which of the two is most authentic to your trained ear for The Wall/Final Cut tones? Specifically the Solos to studio version of Comfortaby Numb. There seems to a vocal, woodiness to the tone, a clarity that is very clear and focused, and has a certain “click” and “bite” to the attack that isn’t heard in most muff clones today. I do keep in mind that he may well be using other pedals to boost and shape the tone like the Overdriver.

  137. Hi Bjorn, thanks for the great resource (again).

    I’ve come to the decision to sell my Cornish P-2 as I’m looking for something a little more manageable and perhaps versatile. I use a Laney Lionheart 5w and like Animals and Wall eras, but mainly enjoy the Delicate and PULSE tones. Should I be looking at something like the Musket for versatility, or with your experience with the Lionheart, would you advise a better match for my amp? I particularly love the Sorrow Pulse tone, which the P-2 delivers in spades – so I’m also considering the Buffalo Patriot. Would you go for nailing the one tone you love or would you go for versatility?

    One more thing, selling the P-2 could allow me to buy a distortion too…undecided on the Soothsayer or Evolution…any advice would be greatly appreciated!

    Thank you again for your time and efforts!!!

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Jonathan! Thanks for your kind words! A distortion is, in my opinion, a much more versatile pedal than a Muff. You get a much wider range of tones. The Evolution would probably cover most of what you need. Having said that, I don’t think any pedal out there sound as close to David’s 94 Muff tones as the Buffalo Patriot. Cheers!

  138. Wojciech says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    Recently I started review of my pedals collection and get rid of effects that I have doubled or bought to check it am not using them.
    During this cleaning I started to wonder which pedal would be better to keep: Buffalo FX Evo or Pete Cornish G-2? Both are great for me but generally one would be sufficient for me :).
    Could you and all members share your thoughts on this quite difficult decision?

    Thanks! Wojciech

    • Bjorn says:

      Oh… It’s more or less the same pedal so I guess you need to trust your ears on that one. Which pedal sound the best on your guitar and amp? I’d go for the Evo but only because that one sounds better on my rig.

  139. emmettgallagher says:

    hi, curious if you have any experience with the Chicago Stompworks pedals? ram/moose pie/civil war. thanks for the extensive and well-researched site! i have a russian big muff right now (black, tall version) which i’ve had worked on 3 times, but it still has issues clicking in and out of volume, so i need something more reliable, with that sort of sustain and dark but potentially just a little brighter. was thinking Little Big Muff. want to keep on a budget so i can get a complementary fuzz pedal (thinking simple dunlop fuzzface). also any experience with the keeley psi fuzz? it seems to do an op amp muff sound really well, but i don’t have much frame of reference.


    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Emmett! I don’t have eny experience with the Psi Fuzz but the Little Big Muff and the Tone Wicker, both from EHX, is somewhat similar to the Sovtek but with a bit more top end. You might also want to look into the EHX Bass Muff, which is the closest you get to the old green Sovtek pedals. There aren’t that many good sounding budget Muffs on the market but if you step up a notch, it’s worth looking into the Vick Audio 73 ram’s head and some of the North Effects stuff.

  140. eric says:

    Phenomenal site! Does Gilmour know about you….he should. You are incredibly generous with your time and knowledge. My question…I have a strat with lollar “dirt face” pups (blackface/blackface/special in bridge) {not to be confused with the “dirty blonde” which is blonde/blonde/special. So pups (per lollar site) = classic strat tone, full body & punch, prominent midrange, clear treble, and full bass with piano like attack. I’m playing thru tweed amps at moment..tremolux and deluxe. So prominent midrange pickups and tweed amps. Bedroom/small gigs. So the question (finally), which muff would you recommend with this set up? I absolutely love the Patriot demo you did, as well as all the others for that matter. (Other pedals I’m using are tc flashback, keeley compressor, wampler clarksdale)

    thanks so much for your time.

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Eric! Thanks for your kind words! I’m sure David is aware that there is a huge community out there… but I’m not so sure he cares :) I would usually recommend a Muff with a bit more mids than the early 70s models. The Patriot has more mids and low end, which would work nicely on Fenders. That being said, to get that throaty sound with the sustain you hear on my clip, you really need a loud Hiwatt or similar – amps that has lots of headroom and mid range. Muffs, like any pedal, will sound different on differently voiced amps. You could also go for a so-called stacked model, like the Skreddy P19 or MojoHand Iron Bell, which are designed to sound like a Muff+booster setup. These also have more mids. Last, I also recommend the Vick Audio ’73 ram’s head. It has a mids switch that should work nicely.

  141. Helmut says:

    Thanks, Bjorn. One last question on this topic, before I place an order, if possible:
    How does the Pih Hoof MKII from Electric Orange compare to the Evolution? Is it an overlap, an addition or is the PIg Hoof MKII not suitable for Humbuckers?

    • Bjorn says:

      The MkII goes well with humbuckers. That was bit of the intention to make it a versatile Muff and not as overwhelming as some of the others. It’s typically Muff though and the Evolution sounds much more like a conventional distortion, with a tube amp quality. I wouldn’t say they overlap.

      • Helmut says:

        Thanks Bjorn!
        Is the MKII compareble to the Buffalo Ramshead? Would the Buffalo Ramshead go well with Humbuckers?

        • Bjorn says:

          The MkII is slightly brighter and it has less low end. The Buffalo goes well with humbuckers.

          • Helmut says:

            Please, which of those two would you recommend (not especially for Gilmour’s sound, but as an addition to overdrive/fuzz-pedals)?

            • Bjorn says:

              I would perhaps go for the Buffalo – or the Pig Hoof MkI. The MkII is great, I love it, but it’s not your typical Big Muff. It has less gain and low end and it’s really tailored for recording.

  142. Helmut says:

    first of all thanks for your detailed reviews and the time you are spending for us users.
    I am looking for a fuzz, which works well with humbuckers since I play mostly Les Pauls. I have a couple of overdrives, but want to add a different color to the sound by using a fuzz. I am using a Wampler Velvet Fuzz now, but find only few settings useful. I don’t want to have it overly compressed an muddy. I am using an amp, which is not total clean (some kind of dirt clean) an like to boost the fuzz with boost or od. You mentioned the Iron Bell going well with humbuckers, but you rated it low in combination with a boost pedals.
    Could you give me a recomendation for a alternative to the Velvet Fuzz, considering, that I am located in Central Europe, so not all choices are available for a considerable price.
    If you don’t mind a second question – do you have any opinon on the Skreddy Hybrid Fuzz Driver or the Blackout Effectors Twosome Fuzz?

    • Bjorn says:

      The Velvet Fuzz is more a Big Muff, tweaked for a bit more of everything. I like fairly moderate sounding fuzz pedals for humbuckers, like the Fuzz Phrase from Jam Pedals or similar sounding germanium fuzzes. The Hybrid and Twosome are pretty aggressive, although you can tweak them for a variety of sounds. I have never tried these with humbuckers so I can’t really tell how that sound.

      • Helmut says:

        Hello Bjorn,
        thank you for your answer! Maybe it is more a “Muff”-like sound I am looking for – I am not very experienced, had only tons of ODs till now. I like one setting with the Velvet Fuzz very much, but only with the bridge PUs and low gain-setting (Tight side – the Big-side is really too much and sounds muddy).
        Would one of the Buffalo-Pedals go well with Humbuckers eg. the “Evolution”? Or the Pih Hoof MKII? I think, both pedals are built in Europe, which I would prefer (Euro-Dollar-rate is not too good to buy from the states at the moment).
        If you don’t mind to answer once again?
        Best Wishes

        • Bjorn says:

          The Evolution is a perfect match for humbuckers. You can tweak that thing from warm overdrive to creamy distortion and almost fuzz. Highly recommended!

  143. Dmitry says:

    Also, how would you suggest to setup that two for song like Time, where David uses overdrive alone for rhythm and put a Muff on the top for the solo? Should Musket have less gain in that case (if yes, less PRE or less FUZZ)
    Thank You!

    • Bjorn says:

      Depends entirely on your amp and what settings you use.

      • Dmitry says:

        I have a Mrashall DSL40C. Set it as clean as possible with less treble and more mid.
        Thank You!

        • Bjorn says:

          Try the setup I suggested in my previous reply and go from there. For a more fuzz kind of tone, I’d increase the tone, add a bit of focus and perhaps a bit of the pre as well.

  144. Dmitry says:

    Hello, Bjorn

    Could you please help me with using a Musket with BD-2. because I`m getting lost!
    What is the better way of controlling the gain? I usually set up a Musket: PRE about 11 and FUZZ about 2, and BD-2 as a booster with low gain and high volume.
    Or is it better to set Musket with low gain and add gain with BD-2? How should I deal with PRE knob in that way?
    Honestly, that PRE knob confuses me very much…
    I`m looking for two tones – THE WALL and GDANSK.
    I`m using a Am Strat with CS69/CS69/SSL5 – MXR Dynacomp – Musket – BD-2 – CE-5 – MXR Phase 90 – TC Nova delay

    Thank You!

    • Bjorn says:

      What kind of amp are you using? The amount of gain should be the total between your amp and the Musket and BD2. I’d start with the pre, mids and focus all the way down/off and focus on the fuzz, tone and volume. Try to get a nice tone from your amp and set the three controls on the Musket to as close as you can get to your desired tone. Use the pre, mids and focus controls to further enhance the tone and compensate for what might be lacking. You probably don’t need to use a booster, since these three controls should give you the boost you need. If you do want to use the BD2 I’d set it as clean as possible.

  145. Bruce Jones says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    Hello from the Arizona desert! Hope this finds you well and happy. No questions today. I just picked up a genuine EHX/Sovtek Civil War BMP in killer condition for a great price. It got here this morning. I’ve been playing all day and I had to tell someone who would really understand how excited I am. No one here does. You understand, don’t you? It really is as wonderful as all the music/gear pundits say it is. In this day and age, it is so refreshing when something actually lives up to the hype, and perhaps exceeds it. Maybe this is because I’m listening to this pedal in my own personal musical space for the first time. I also have a damn-near mint EHX/Sovtek Bubble Font, which honestly, to my very damaged ears, sounds very, very close to the Civil War, yet slightly different. I love them both, for different reasons. My Sovteks are, by far, the quietest of all my “BMP” pedals. I have three other BMP clones and two Frantone variants (The Sweet and Cream Puff). They are all very noisy pedals. I’m worried about the crappy plastic 1/4 inch cable receptacles on the EHX/CW, though. Very fragile. Anyhow, my brother, we love you, and thank you for all you do. It is so appreciated!!!

    Best Regards,

  146. Larry says:

    Hi, Bjorn! Which shall I choose between the bass muff and Moore triangle muff while I own a Moore black secret and an OD808 for booster/overdrive? I’m looking for the one brighter and can give better sustain.
    Thanks in advance!:)

    • Bjorn says:

      I’d get the Bass Muff. It has a nice amount of gain and a lot of sustain. The OD808 would probably be too dark for boosting but the Bass Muff should work nicely on its own.

      • Larry says:

        I bought a mojo hand colossus eventually,incited by my local dealer.
        He recommended Mojo colossus,box of war and ram’s head from Wren and Cuff to me, but with the price of W&C ram’s head I can buy a colossus PLUS a Vick audio ram’s head…So I chose the colossus and I’ve used it for several days.
        The tone colossus alone is quite good, but not THAT good. Maybe I need a good booster? Will Mooer blue mood do the work?Thx in advance again!:)
        And as long as I’m not satisfied by the colossus tone, I ordered a Vick audio ram’s head abroad(It would take 2~6 months, that’s why I didn’t consider this pedal at first) before I realized a booster might make the colossus sound right…My poor wallet!! :((

        • Bjorn says:

          As I’m sure you know, Big Muffs can sound very different between amps. It all depends on what tone you are looking for. Some amps are better suited with Muffs, or at least in terms of replicating David Gilmour tones, than others. The Colossus is kind of a mix between the late 70s OP amp Muffs and the Sovteks, which is perhaps more suited for early 90s grunge than Gilmour. Still, you should be able to tweak it for some nice PULSE tones. The Vick is a more versatile Muff I think but again, it depends on your amp as well.

  147. Dominique says:


    I did not make up my mind in choosing my new Fuzz, I hesitate between two models: Vick Audio RAM 73 or Buffalo Patriot!

    I play on a Stratocaster, my Pedalboard:

    PolyTune-> Dyna Comp -> Fuzz -> Tube Driver -> OCD -> Phaser 90 -> Deluxe Electric Mistress -> Flashback X4 -> Hall Of Fame -> Hiwatt DG-504

    Thank you for your help

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Dominique! What sort of fuzz or Big Muff tones are you looking for? I’d get the Vick for 1977-83 Animals > Final Cut tones and the Patriot for PULSE :)

      • Dominique Dubourg says:

        Hi Bjorn,

        Thank you for the quick response from you and congratulations on your new site, which is really an inexhaustible source of knowledgeable information.

        I seek the sound of Pulse, so I’ll take your advice and take the Buffalo Patriot.

        As I completely redo my pedalboard, I will take to replace my old Evidence Audio cables by the French importer advises me to take Reveal instead of Melody, what do you think?

        For jacks have you tested the SIS seamless?

        When all this is over, I’d do a little article in your post to help our musician friends.


        • Bjorn says:

          Thank you, Dominique :) I’m using Reveals my self. They have the same tonal quality as the Melody but they’re a bit more flexible and doesn’t curl up as easily. The SIS cables are really great. Highly recommended :)

          • Dominique says:

            Hi Bjorn,

            thank you for the clarification on the cable and connectors SIS, I’ll order the cables and SIS sheets.

            I like to know your opinion, I have a Deluxe Electric Mistress and I vied to replace it with a Effectrode Tube Vibe that seems clearly superior.

            Best regard

            • Bjorn says:

              Two very different pedals. The Mistress, as you know, is a flanger, while the Tube Vibe is a clone of the old UniVibe phaser. They sound different and cover different ground. Both are great pedals so if you ask me, I’d keep both :)

  148. merseymale says:

    2 quick questions…

    If the Deluxe Muff is ONE MUFF TO RULE THEM ALL(!) then why does it not get 10s right across the board? I’ve not tried it but if it can be ANY muff then can I sell my other DIY Muff Clones & buy a Deluxe?

    What are your thoughts on the BASS Deluxe Muff for Guitars, please?

    Cheers & once again -GREAT ‘site!

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi! I never said that it’s the One Muff to rule them all :) It’s no doubt a versatile Muff but whether or not you like it or think it sound as good as some of the many clones out there is totally up to you. I gave it 8/10 based on tone and versatility. Haven’t tried the Bass Deluxe.

  149. Max says:

    First of all, I’m just now discovering your site in depth. Your knowledge of Gilmour’s tone is truly impressive as is your ability to play his solos impeccably.

    My playing style owes a lot to Gilmour and I’m looking to get a Big Muff-esque pedal after reading this article. I currently have a Big Muff Tone Wicker. It’s a nice enough pedal on it’s own but for Gilmour tones it leaves something to be desired.

    I play a Strat style guitar (EBMM Silhouette) with a HSH combination loaded with a Duncan Antiquity in the middle and Whole Lotta Humbuckers in neck and bridge. My amp is a Bogner Goldfinger combo. Obviously, it’s not gonna REALLY sound like any of the recordings without a Strat with single coils. But for someone like me, who perhaps doesn’t have the idea guitar for the sound, which pedal would you recommend?

    Oh, and I have an Xotic AC Booster I generally use as an OD/Boost.

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Max, thanks for your kind words! In your case, with the humbuckers, I’d go for something a bit more versatile than a Big Muff, which will probably get a you a lot closer to David’s tones. The Buffalo Evolution us based on the Pete Cornish G2, which you can hear all over the Live 8 and Gdansk shows. It sounds like a mix between a Big Muff and a RAT and it can easily double as an overdrive. Similar pedals would be a RAT, the Fulltone OCD or similar clones.

  150. Tanner says:

    Hey Bjorn! I have the opportunity to buy either the Triangle Buff or the Bass Muff for about the same price. What would you recommended for tones more The Wall-ish? And how do they compare regarding versatility? Thanks!

  151. Jean-Pierre says:

    Hi Bjorn
    Your new site is beautiful and perfect. I love.
    I have a question for a long time about the Gilmour’s show during the 50th anniversary of the stratocaster for Marooned:
    Is David had a whammy pedal or an expression pedal ?
    And what is the part of the pedal board on the left side (an additional small pedalboard) that Gilmour Gilmour switch (on or off?) at the End off Marooned ?
    Have you an answer? Thank you.
    Good Luck for your show In Helmond !.

    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Jean-Pierre! David’s using a customised Ernie Ball volume pedal that’s assigned to a Digitech IPS33B rack unit for whammy effects. The smaller “satellite” board, feature two EQs and the on/off switch for the MXR Digital Delay rack unit.

  152. Robert says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    Thanks for putting all this info together! Out of curiosity, how would you compare the Blackout Effectors Musket and the Vick Audio 73′ Rams Head? Both have my eye, and I’m curious what you would have to say if both were put side by side.


    • Bjorn says:

      Two very different Muffs. The Ram’s Head is based on the classic early 70s model, with a scooped and bright tone.The Musket is close to the Sovtek versions, with much more mids and an overall darker tone. You can boost the mids on the Vick, with the on board mids boost but it’s still two different pedals.

  153. Lucas says:

    I have a question, In the Sorrow last solo from Pulse, The Cs2 Works as a Compressor or as a Booster?, and The Tube Driver 1 is just a booster or distorts the signal too?

    • Bjorn says:

      The CS2 acts as a compressor, with the level set to about unity. The Tube Driver 1 is a booster or EQ for the Muff.

  154. Tom says:

    Hey Bjorn, I know it has to do with mixing and the nature of recording but, why does the Big Muff sound so bright in Animals but soooo bassy and full in bootleggings? Cheers

    • Bjorn says:

      It’s all about mic placement, amp and pedal settings and mixing. Animals was mixed bright and hard to underline the aggressive music. David used the exact same setup for Final Cut but the approach was very different, hence the more natural and warmer tone. Wall is somewhere in between.

  155. Arne says:

    Isn’t the Pig Hoof more of a Big Nøff?

    Hee hee heeeee :)

  156. Steve says:

    Can the Earthquaker Hoof pull off Animals and Wall tones as well?

    • Bjorn says:

      Depending on your amp and guitar – yes.

      • Sean says:

        Hi Bjorn/
        I have a vick audio Rams head into a laney cub 12 head with a 112 cab which has a celestion v30
        I can’t seem to get a tone out of the vick that sounds smooth and like the tone I imagine – it always seems too dark or too scooped
        Am I just not used to it or what settings should I try? I really don’t want to start selling and buying different ones as I like to get the best out of what I’ve got
        I have a bd2 so could boost it ?
        Also when I use the electric mistress or eleclady with it I find it overwhelming – is that because it’s mono and theres no mix ? When I can afford it im going to run a stereo setup with the mistress on one side .
        And get a chorus pedal with a mix knob – probably the costalab.
        Anyway , great site: I get good tones out of my setup for myself – it’s just those animals tones I can’t seem to get . Maybe those album and live bootleg tones are just too elusive ? Or I don’t have the fingers haha
        Maybe the chase is the fun and once I be mailed it its all over
        I have tickets to see he great man for this year maybe I should ask Him haha
        Thanks again
        Ps great album you released

        • Bjorn says:

          Thank you, Sean! Have you tried to engage the mids boost switch on the Vick? It shouldn’t sound scooped with the flat or boost mode. Big Muffs are always a bit hard to make work properly on smaller amps and low volume so although I think the Vick works great with most smaller tube amps you always need to keep in mind that you can’t replicate the tone of a loud Hiwatt rig.

  157. Ed says:


    I’m thinking about buying a new distortion pedal or a muff. Which pedal would you recommend? I have neighbours so I have to play with bedroom level. What would you consider a good choice to buy?
    The mooer triangle muff, proco rat or the byoc large beaver? and what kind of boost/overdrive would you recommend?

    greetings Ed

    • Bjorn says:

      What kind of guitar/pickups do you have? What amp? What tones are you looking for?

      • Ed says:

        I’ve got a american deluxe strat with a little marshall valvestate 10 amp.
        I mostly play pink floyd but like to play other styles aswell so something versatile but gets also close to gilmour’s tone.

        • Bjorn says:

          Sorry for my late reply, Ed. Between the pedals you mention I’d go for the RAT. Check out the Mooer Black Secret as well. Great sounding clone. I also recommend the Buffalo FX Evolution. Boosterwise I’d go for something versatile like the Boss BD2 or TC Sparkle Boost. I’d stay away from Muffs, fuzz and vintage style boosters as your amp may have a hard time making them work.

          • Ed says:

            Thanks for your answer!

            And what about the iron bell?
            Sorry for the many questions but I want to make sure I spend my money well.

            • Bjorn says:

              The Iron Bell is somewhat in between. It’s got that Muff character, with a bit more mids and an overall darker tone. Well worth a try :)

  158. Tanguy says:

    The Noel Cornet ended my BM quest.

  159. Philip says:

    Thanks very much for taking the time to share your knowledge!

  160. Dave Austin says:

    Hi Bjorn. Great new look to the website! Quick question for you: on Pigs, what do you think the rhythm overdrive tone is…..a big muff with guitar volume rolled back or the powerbooster…..maybe something else?! I have been trying to get that tone for years and have failed!!!

  161. Matt says:

    Hey Bjorn, love the updated site. Quick question: I’m interested in buying a big muff and I’m looking at the Bass Big Muff and The Tone Wicker one. The Bass BM has a higher rating, I’ve tried one out and it will give me the tones I want, but the tone wicker seems like it could be more versatile. Opinion? Will the tone wicker give me that green russian sound that the Bass BM has? For reference, I’m looking to replicate Gilmour’s PULSE tones.



    • Bjorn says:

      Hi Matt! The Tone Wicker has a few more options but I don’t think the tone of the pedal is as suited for replicating David Gilmour’s tones as the Bass Muff. It’s very close to the old Sovtek models and great for that PULSE era.

      • Matt says:

        What do you know about the Deluxe Big Muff? It has what looks like the circuitry of the bass big muff with another foot switch for additional mids. Have you tried it and would this work for Gilmour’s PULSE tones?



  162. Uwe says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    What would be your choice for a straight 1971 Triangle Big Muff?
    Mooer Tri Buff? Vick Triangle ? Another one?

    Did you try the Vick? Is it a straight clone with the toggle on scooped? Or is it a bit darker compared to the original (like the Vick 73 rams which is darker than the original rams head)?

    Thanks and regards

    • Bjorn says:

      I haven’t had the chance to try the Vick yet so I can’t really tell. I need to talk to Mike about that one :) The one I always come back to is the BYOC Large Beaver triangle.

  163. Tony says:


    You owe to yourself to try the Basic Audio Tri-Ram. Hands down the best Muff clone I have ever tried. I’ve tried slews of Muffs over the years trying to nail that elusive ‘The Wall’ tone. Many come close, but for me, this is the only one that truly nails it. Tonally balanced, clear & articulate, with huge lows, adjustable mids, perfect amount of crisp top end with biting highs, great sustain and tons of volume on tap.

    [Thanks for the tip :) I haven’t tried that one yet. What amp and guitar/pickups are you using it with? – Bjorn]

    • Tony says:

      Works great through any amp I’ve tried that takes pedals well, Hiwatt, Twin, Bassman and even Blues Junior. I run a 50’s Classic Series Strat loaded with Dave Allen Echoes. In your opinion which Muff clone have you tried thus far that really gets that clear, singing, biting Wall/Final Cut tone?

      • Bjorn says:

        Vick Audio ’73 Ram’s Head.

        • Tony says:

          I tried the Vick’s Audio side by side with the Tri-Muff and the Tri-Muff won hands down. Of course, that’s my opinion. If you do order a Tri-Muff, I would ask them to shave off a bit of bass, since I know you prefer your Muffs boosted.

  164. Bjorn says:

    Dear Bjorn,

    where is the new deluxe big muff? It is truly a gem!

    Kind regards,

    [I haven’t done the 2015 issue of the guide yet… it’s coming :) – Bjorn]

  165. Arthur Luz says:

    Hi Bjorn

    This is my first question since a found this blog (about 2007).
    My question is about the Electro Harmonix Germanium 4 Big Muff:

    My guitar have EMG active pickups, and i don’t know if this pedal will sound like a FuzzFace. I know that Fuzzes don’t like Active Pickups. So, this pedal is a Muff or a Fuzz?

    Sorry my bad english.

    Best wishes,

    [It’s not really a Muff but more a germanium fuzz, which has a more overdrive character. Warmer and milder compared to a Muff. The EMGs should work nicely with it as it has a more modern circuit. – Bjorn]

  166. Bern Merchant says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    Just curious. Are you familiar with Basic Audio’s latest muff, the Alter-Destiny? If so, what are your thoughts on it?

    And, another quick question please. Inspired by a thread on all-Boss pedalboards on TGP, I’m wondering if you were to suggest an all-Boss Gilmour pedalboard, what Boss pedals would you choose? I know this doesn’t quite fit with with this muff page, but I didn’t know where else to ask this! This is a ‘theoretical’ question because I’m using all kinds of brands – but would be interested in your ideas on this.

    Thanks once again for your time and wisdom. Your reviews and the discussion on Gilmourish pages have been very helpful for me over the past couple of years.

    [Thanks for your kind words, Bern! Haven’t had the chance to try the Alter-Destiny yet so I can’t comment on that. You can definitely set up an all Boss board for David’s tones. Sadly, many of the Boss pedals he’s used over the years are no longer made but if you’re not too picky there are similar pedals in the current Boss catalog. BD2 Wasa Craft for cleaner overdrives, SD1 Wasa Craft for Tube Driver overdrives, DS1 for lead tones, RT20 for rotary and chorus modulation, DD20 for vintage and modern delays. That should cover most of his tones. I don’t think Boss have any suitable phaser, flanger and vibes. – Bjorn]

  167. Paul says:

    Hi Bjorn

    Just wondering if you have had the chance to try out Arc Effects, Big Green. I am curious to know your opinion of this pedal. I’m trying to decide whether to buy this or the Buffalo FX Patriot.

    I’m currently playing a CIJ ’57 RI Strat through a ’73 SF Fender Twin with Eminence Legends speakers. The Strat has Sliders 59/SRV pups in it at the moment.

    Any thoughts?

    PS Like your new solo album, beautiful tones happening on it, love your playing.


    [Thanks for your kind words, Paul! Never tried the Big Green but I can’t really praise the Patriot enough… :) – Bjorn]

  168. manu says:

    Is the Skreddy P19 a fuzz or a Muff. I am looking for a fuzz for bedroom use and I have doubts on:

    The Skreddy P19. The Caroline Guoitar Olimpya Fuzz and the El Musico Loco Wee Beaver Fuzz.

    I appreciate you suggestions. (I like not only Guilmour sounds, but Hendrix, Page, Cream or eve today Jack White). Just for better understanding, I have a Casino 65 Elitist (so Gibson P90 pick ups), a Prince of Tone Analogman Overdrive, a Maxon AD999 Delay and a Carl Martin Headroom Reverb plugged to a 5w Gretsch valve amp.

    Thank you very much from Spain

    [Both the P19 and Wee Beaver are Big Muffs so if you want a versatile fuzz pedal, the Caroline is a great choice. – Bjorn]

  169. Debargho says:

    Hey Bjorn,
    I’ve been reading and listening to sound clips of the new J Rockett’s Archer buffered pedal which is a Klon Centaur clone. I was thinking if it may be possibly to use the archer instead of the Buffalo Effects’ power booster with a Big Muff to get an authentic Gilmour tone?

    I know you probably have not used the Archer, but based on your years of experience using and reviewing numerous pedals, would you think this can be achieved?

    [Depends on the amp and what Muff you use but in general, Klon pedals (clones and originals) have a bit too much mid range to be used as a booster for high gain pedals. You might get some nice sounds if you set it all clean but again it depends on the voicing of your amp. I always recommend using a transparent booster when combining with Muffs. – Bjorn]

  170. Bryan says:

    Hey Bjorn!

    Happy new year! I just came across your Fletcher Memorial Home video on youtube and was wondering which pedal gives you that whine on the lower notes? Is that primarily the blues driver or the Muff or something else like amp settings etc..? I have a Keeley BD-2 and a Skreddy P-19 but for some reason I just can’t get that whine.

    And if I could make a request for a FAQ write up on how to correctly use Overdrives and Muff pedals together. I too have a Keeley Blues Driver but I don’t use it to it’s potential. I’m guessing using it as a boost for my P-19 isn’t the best. Maybe a more transparent boost would be better for the P-19 and Wall / Final Cut type tones?

    Keep up the good work, Bjorn!

    [Hi Bryan! The P19 doesn’t really need a booster as it’s a so-called stacked pedal. It was designed to produce the tone you get from combining a ram’s head Muff with a Colorsound Powerbooster, so it already has the qualities of a Muff+booster. In the clip I’m using the BD2 to just roll off some overtones. It’s set to unity volume and with the gain rolled all the way down. What you hear is mainly the Sovtek Big Muff. – Bjorn]

  171. Nick says:

    Re: Unmuffle your muff.

    Thought I’d share my experience in using the muff in a bedroom setting. Many have noted the tone problems at low volumes (inarticulate and dark).

    I solved this by simply placing a Boss GE-7 graphic EQ after it.

    I use the BYOC Ram’s Head and decided to use the #4 setting which bypasses the tone circuit. This allowed me to get an unadulterated tone into my EQ. I scooped the mids (the defining characteristic of the muff), left the low frequencies untouched, and boosted the upper frequencies (1.6k to 6.4k) by about 5 decibels. This brightened things up, improved note definition, and miraculously transformed the low end making it tight and massive (no more woolly fluff but Marshall stack tight!). In fact, I don’t hear much tone difference at any volume now.

    If you are using the 1st setting on the BYOC, or a typical muff which already has the mid scoop, you can just boost the top end.

    The EQ even helped me overcome the problems that are inherent in using an attenuator. My little 4watt amp is still too loud for home use so I’m forced to attenuate to a large degree (all the way down to 1 in fact). This has the unwanted affect of reducing treble.

    My suggestion to anyone that can’t crank the amp at home with the muff is too simply get and EQ!

    I’m happy to say the least and a bit indignant at myself because my EQ’s always been a part of my rig lol.

    Good luck.

    [Thanks for sharing, Nick! – Bjorn]

  172. Debra says:

    Hi Bjorn!

    I just found a smoking hot cover of Comfortably Numb on youtube, check it out! His tone is about as close as you can get to my ears, I can’t quite make out what’s on his pedalbaord but it looks like a dd 20, electric mistress and Red Muck. Sounds Awesome!

    [And the link? – Bjorn]

  173. Sebastien says:

    Hello Bjorn,

    I’ve seen that Electronic orange has shipped to you their new Pig Hoof , with an upgrated enclosure.
    ANy differences with the previous one?

    Would you know what’s happening at electronic orange? I’ve sent at least 10 mails to them since the beginning of december, and still no answer. What’s happening over there?

    So I’m starting to look at the Vick audio 73, and I am even more interested in you custom model (seen on your facebook page), less dark.
    Is this custom model closer to the Pig Hoof, the Pete Cornish P-1, and the Famous Gilmour Violet rams Head ?……

    Best regards,
    Sleep well


    [The new Pig Hoof is the same pedal. Just a new enclosure. I think Electronic Orange is closed for the majority of December and perhaps January. They usually answer right away so hang in there :) The new Vick is an early 70s ram’s head. Warmer and smoother than a Violet. – Bjorn]

  174. nick p says:

    hi bjorn

    this is the first post ive done,firstly this site is wonderful thanks to you for sharing all your knowledge and thoughts. I need some advise if possible,i have everything I need for my rig except
    a muff and booster pedals I know how important these are for the Gilmour sound so I really want to make the right choice.

    57 reissue strat emg sa
    costa lab chorus
    eleclady flanger
    strymon el capistain
    fender blues junior iii

    what muff/booster or overdrive pedals would you recommend would a rams head be to harsh for the blues junior? what about the patriot? or anything else ,my fav Gilmour tones are the wall but I like all his tones ,I play at home and small venues

    many thanks nick

    [Hi Nick! The Patriot would probably be your best choice as ram’s head models can be a bit too bright for Fender amps. You might also want to check out the MojoHand Iron Bell, which is kind of a mix between a Muff and RAT. Very versatile. For boost and overdrive, check out the Buffalo Powerbooster or for something closer to the Tube Driver, check out the Wampler PlexiDrive. – Bjorn]

  175. Charalampos says:

    Dear Bjorn,

    The above article is very useful for us all trying to achieve somehow THE TONE FROM HEAVEN, but in my case i have in my possession a NYC made BIG MUFF (contemporary model) which i agree with what you say above it is quite buzzy, boomy, and somewhat choked sustain(long but choked).I also recently wanted to give a try on the “green” bass big muff which also after i tested it agree with what you say, but partially. Because it is quite better in terms of distortion/sustain compared to the NYC model muff for guitar, but it has an obvious volume drop compared to the NYC muff and less gain/sustain, at least in my opinion and my ears.I tested both muffs on a fender hot rod deluxe MK I amp,with MIJ Fender strat in combination with MXR DYNACOMP, and also the pedals alone each one.Do you think there is any solution with that negative of bass big muff so as to turn its disadvantages to my advantage and create the perfect muff(for me and my rig)or should I look again for something else,and what are your recommendations.

    Thanks a lot.

    Keep up the good work!!

    [I haven’t experienced the same issues that you describe but the Bass Muff is indeed a different sounding pedal compared to the NYC model. Be careful combining Muffs and compressors. If you do, make sure that the compressor is set mild. The Muff has a lot of gain, which is in essence a very compressed tone so too high settings would only create a less dynamic tone. Check out the Vick Audio ’73 Muff for more vintage tones or the Buffalo Evolution for something more versatile. – Bjorn]

  176. Benjamin says:

    Hi Bjorn, I hope all is well.

    I have a Big Muff w/ Tone Wicker and I was wondering if it could get close to the live Gdansk and Royal Albert Hall muff tones? Did you have any preferred settings like the wicker or tone switch on or off? I’m stuggling to get some Gilmour sounds out of it. I’m thinking of selling it and getting a Vick Audio 73 Ram’s Head, it’s very cheap considering how good it sounds. Would that pedal work for Gdansk/Royal Albert Hall tones? Also I have a Jimi Hendrix Fuzz Face, is it true that you have to run it on carbon batteries to get the best tones out of it or is that just for germanium fuzz faces? I hate running pedals on batteries haha, thank you!

    [Very sorry for my late reply, Benjamin. Whether or not a Muff works depends very much on the amp but in general I’d say that the Wicker is not the ideal Gilmour Muff. The Vick is definitely closer to what you’re searching for. Vintage style fuzz circuits sound better with non-alknaline batteries. The tone is warmer, with more harmonics. – Bjorn]

  177. Pete W. says:

    Hey Bjorn! Happy Holidays!
    I came across the most versatile muffs I’ve ever seen. It’s called the Iron Fist from Lone Wolf Audio. Definitely something you should check out!

    [Thanks for the tip! – Bjorn]

  178. Charlie Sem says:

    I purchased a killer Ram’s Head clone made by aussies Doom In Analog in Australia. It’s a very Floyd friendly pedal, the mids aren’t too scooped but they very nicely with ample sustain and the tone is very usable going from a slight crisp crunch to thunderous lows. Works very well with smaller combo amps as well as half stack and higher wattage amps.

    [Thanks for the tip! – Bjorn]

  179. Dutch Blomenkamp says:

    Yeah, that’s what made me ask. I was looking over on your personal site, saw it on your board, and then went back checked out the review again. With Christmas coming, I’ve been diggin through looking at pricing on several of the pedals you’ve reviewed, and for the most part, they’re way out of my price range. The Vick RH is surprisingly affordable. What type of pedal would you recommend after it, a TS type, or something more transparent? I’m eyeing Vick Audio’s Overdriver reproduction, as well as the RH.

    [Big Muffs should be boosted or blended with transparent overdrives. A TS, with it’s boosted mid range, would make the Muff sound choked and too muddy. – Bjorn]

  180. Dutch Blomenkamp says:

    Bjorn, I’d be interested to see how the Vick Audio 73 Ram’s Head would fit in with all these others. Sounded great in the review, and it’s one of the more affordable clones out there.

    [I’ll update the guides early next year. The Vick is on my studio board and I think it’s one of the best sounding Muffs I’ve ever played :) – Bjorn]

  181. Macha says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    I know you are very busy but i’m looking for a muff or a fuzz for my husband (for x-mas!) He plays with a Princeton reverb reissue and strat am special with texas special pick-up. He is a fan of Buffalo pedals but is it a good choice?? What should I buy…evolution? Patriot? or what else?

    Thanks for taking in my questions and congrats for your album!


    [Hi Macha! Big Muffs tend to sound a bit bright with Fender amps so I’d either go for a darker sounding model, like the Patriot, or a more versatile distortion, with more mid range (which the Fender lack) like the Evolution. In this case I think I’d go for the Evolution :) – Bjorn]

  182. Charles Moody Sem says:

    A very good Muff-clone I’ve come across recently is the Silver Wizard made by Doom In Analog. Its a very good combination of a Triangle and Ram’s Head Muff with a very soft but thunderous low end and a slight mid-scoop but not to the point where it lacks any. The treble is very tamed and super responsive allowing for full bends and double stop leads to be heard when the pedal is turned on its head. The pedal is made in Australia and I got it for about 110 bucks US so I really recommend anyone looking for a combination of Triangle and Ram’s Head Muff clones.

    [Thanks for the tip! – Bjorn]

  183. Angus says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    I have a Big Muff with Tone Wicker and an original Ibanez TS808 and when I boost the muff with the tube screamer it sounds like someone threw a blanket over my amp, should I place the tube screamer before my muff in the signal chain instead? I know you advise having the muff before the overdrive, I’m assuming that’s how Gilmour himself does it as well. Are there any noticeable differences in tones or characteristics with the Muff?

    Thanks heaps Bjorn! I’ll be purchasing your solo album soon hopefully, very keen!

    [Hi Angus! I think your problem is the 808. It’s a great stand alone overdrive but it’s not a very good booster pedal with its pronounced mid range. It makes the Muff choke up. I’d get a second overdrive unit that’s more transparent, like the Boss BD2 or Buffalo FX Powerboost and use it for boosting, placed after the Muff. – Bjorn]

  184. Christian says:

    I didn’t check to see if my question was answered in the previous comments, but how does the ENO BMF stack up against these comparisons of the Muffs and Muff clones?

    [I haven’t tried it so I can’t really tell. – Bjorn]

  185. Mike says:

    I would love to send you one of our modified NYC Big Muffs.
    I started out by converting these to version 2 Rams Head, but later did some personal tweaks.

    [Please use the contact form on this site and send me a message, with some product info and I’ll have a look :) Thanks! – Bjorn]

  186. christophe says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    Will you soon be able to make a review / breakdown, of the New electro Harmonix deluxe Big Muff Pi?

    Best regards,


    [Check out Big Muff guru Kit Rae’s review of the Deluxe. – Bjorn]

  187. Debargho says:

    Thanks :) quick question: how similar are the power booster and the tube driver? Are they quite similar? Can one get close to ones tone than the other? I’m asking this because I read somewhere that they are essentially very similar pedals as they have the same characteristics like the Coloursound. Which one would you truly suggest, with a Cub12R type amp and specially the muff?

    [They’re similar in the sense that they both have a very scooped and transparent tone, which means that they don’t have a lot of mid range. Otherwise, I’d say that they’re two distinctly different pedals. The Colorsound has a brighter tone, with more headroom and an overall more glassy tone. The Tube Driver has a more amp-like tone, with a smoother breakup and a natural tube compression. – Bjorn]

  188. Debargho says:

    Thanks for the comment. I’ll probably get a power booster from Steve, since it has the voltage doubler and gives better headroom. On your new website you mention that your main distortion tone comes from the Tube driver + second overdrive. Can similar tones be achieved from using the Dover drive + power booster? Or shall that muddy the tone? I was thinking of using my DBM + power booster for 90’s Gilmour tones and the Dover drive + power booster for slightly different but equally interesting tones? Is this possible? Or would you suggest a soul food to go with the DD?

    [The Dover is voiced with emphasis on the mids, like Eric Johnson prefer it. It’s very different from how David’s using the Tube Driver. Pairing it up with the Powerbooster sounds OK but a bit too muddy in my opinion. I guess a BD2 or PlexiDrive paired with a Powerbooster or the Soul Food would be better… or at least be closer to how the sounds I get :) – Bjorn]

  189. Debargho says:

    Thanks for the list Bjorn. I’m specifically chasing the Pulse/Division bell/DSoT tone. I would love to get the Throwbak but it’s slightly beyond my budget. How does the Electronic Orange banana boost compare with your list above, say with the spark booster?
    If you had to pick one booster pedal to go with the deluxe big muff for the above tones, which true bypass pedal will you choose ? Apologies for my persistence- but I really would like to nail the 90’s Gilmour sound as closely as possible :)

    [You could go with the Boss BD2. That’s probably the cheapest alternative and it sounds great! The Bananaboost is very similar to both the ThroBak and Buffalo. The Spark Boost is a clean boost and doesn’t have any gain. It works well but personally I prefer a booster with more gain for versatility. – Bjorn]

  190. Jajah says:

    Thank you so much for this article, it’s really an awesome job! I’m looking forward to buy my big muff, to get an as glimourish sound as possible. Loving sounds from DSOTM to Gdansk, including obviously DSOT and Pulse… Iron Bell seamed to fit me quite well, but JMB’s classic 70 seems to be awesome for a lower price. Which muff would you advise me? Thank you so much. Cheers.

    [Depends on what amp and guitar you have. The Iron Bell is one of the more versatile, being a mix between a distortion and Big Muff. The JMB is great. The Buffalo Ram’s Head is also very similar. The Sovtek models, like the EHX Bass Big Muff and Buffalo Patriot are perhaps the best match for smaller amps and brighter sounding amps… – Bjorn]

  191. Debargho says:

    Thanks Bjorn. Are there any other transparent boosters with similar tonal character, that you’re personally aware of,and can suggest, to go as a boost with a Deluxe Big Muff ?

    [Boss BD2, TC Spark Booster, Buffalo FX Powerbooster, ThroBak Overdriveboost, Xotic AC Booster, Wampler PlexiDrive… among others :) – Bjorn]

  192. Debargho says:

    Thanks for the helpful suggestion, Bjorn. Would the Red Witch Lilly boost/MXR boost/Caroline Guitar Company Icarus boost blend well with the DBM, do you think? They are all marketed as clean boosts pedals.

    [I would imagine so although I personally prefer boosters with a bit more gain… or at least the range from clean to heavy gain. Some Muffs needs a bit of a kick to really open up and adding a hint of gain can do wonders. – Bjorn]

  193. Suporna says:

    Hey Bjorn, one of many great articles- thanks for the blog. Have you heard of this super cheap “Eno BMF Fuzz”? I took a punt on it and ordered it the other day from ebay. Waiting anxiously now, afraid that I’ve thrown money down the drain.

    [I haven’t tried it but from what I’ve read it’s very similar to the Mooer, which is a pretty decent sounding Muff :) – Bjorn]

  194. Dmitry says:

    Hi, Bjorn
    I recently bought a Musket (thanks for a advice)! Great peda,l sounds just incredible!!!
    My chain now is MXR Dynacomp – Musket – TS9 – TC Spark Booster – Phase 90 – TC Nova Delay – Marshall DSL40
    And I have a question – David on his Live in Gdansk album during a Time solo uses P1 with Tube Driver (OD). I never uses Tube driver, so I don`t know how it sounds when overdriven. Can I reach the tone of the solo just with a Musket with just adjusted Pre control , or I need to crank Pre and add a Spark Booster after witch cause more noise?
    Thank you a lot!

    [The Tube Driver sounds very much like an old Marshall. Very transparent and clear sounding, with a hint of mid range and it’s got a nice tube compression as well. The Musket will be too aggressive for those tones so the TS9 would be the best match in your setup, although it has a bit too much mid range for the authentic tones. As for boosting, the Spark Booster would do much of the same job when paired with the Musket. – Bjorn]

  195. Gilberto says:

    I´m digging the Biyang fuzz star. For about 45€ I´ve got a stock circuit that sounds much more alike to old muffs than any EH recent reissue. I modded the pedal to similar “green muff” specs and now sounds even better.

  196. Gil says:

    Hey Bjorn, thanks for the reply! I have an American Strat with 69′ pickups, running through a keeley moded BD-2 and a Vox AC15. I am yet to try the Bass Muff, but by reading the comments here, it appears to be pretty popular among Gilmour fans. I tried the wicker today and it didn’t sound bad at all. However I am now tempted to get the Bass Muff. Do you reckon it’s the right way to go?

    Much appreciated Bjorn


    [Yep :) I think it should go very well with your setup .) – Bjorn]

  197. Debargho says:

    Thanks for the suggestion Bjorn. With the Deluxe Big Muff, Dover Drive & G2, what’s the most effective way to have the muff with, say, the drive or the G2? What I mean is, what kind of setting would you use for the second (the first being the muff) for a Gilmour ‘Pulse’ kind of tone- so that the muff +the second dirt pedal gives the desired tone? Thanks.

    [Both the Dover and G2 has a lot of mid range and gain and I don’t really recommend blending them with a Big Muff. You’ll just get a muddy and choked tone with a lot of noise and possibly feedback. The best way to boost your Muff is to get a transparent booster. One that doesn’t have that much mids and gain. The Boss BD2 is really great for that application. So is the TC Sparkbooster. – Bjorn]

  198. KEITH says:

    Just a quick note. This is from a forum, and is paraphrased, but I though maybe it would spur; n a bit more interest. It is a post about the Castledine V2 Violet Ram’s Head. “The V2 is an? Excellent choice for a budget P-1.” Sounds pretty impressed to me!
    Peace, Keith
    All I am saying, is give Stu a Chance! Haha! :)

  199. Debargho says:

    Hi Bjorn, Need some suggestions with DBM placement on my board. Currently my board is: AVRI Fender Strat>Virtual sound Buffer> Diamond Compressor>DBM(2014)> G2>Dover Drive>Analogman Bi-Chorus> Flashback Delay. I mainly powering this via a Pedal power 2 plus. the line then goes into a Laney CUB12R.
    what would be the best placement theoretically, for the DBM, O/D and distortion, do you think?

    [The placement looks fine. Unless you intend to combine any of these pedals, then it doesn’t matter. The rule of thumb is that fuzz and Muffs should go before the booster, when you combine them. – Bjorn]

  200. Gil says:

    Hey Bjorn, fantastic job with this page and the entire website. Well done to you! I was wondering about the current Big Muff Pi models, and after reading this I really needed to ask you if the Little Big Muff Pi could be used to get the Comfortably Numb (solo parts) type of tone. Would you recommend it?

    Many Thanks

    [Thanks! Glad you like the site :) What tones you get depends on what guitar and amp you use, obviously, but it will work nicely. Still, I think both the Tone Wicker and Bass Muff are better. The latter is based on the early 90s Sovtek models. – Bjorn]

  201. Brad Roller says:

    Hey Bjorn! Been thinking about getting myself a triangle muff and was wondering what you knew about the wren and cuff tri pie! It’s a decent price too. If you know anything, any input from you would be appreciated man! Thanks!

    [Never tried that one but the Wren and Cuff stuff is great so I guess you can’t go wrong :) – Bjorn]

  202. Elliot says:

    Hey Bjorn!

    Never posted before, but love the website, have been using it for quite a while now.
    Love these pages, great to get some insight from a ‘David Gilmour community’ on individual setups and equipment.

    Had been using an old vintage Big Muff for the last couple of years, always found it easy to get a ‘Gilmourish’ tone, though it having recently (for lack of a better word) died, I’ve had to replace it with a newer model. I picked up a deluxe big muff, but I’m having trouble ‘reigning’ the sound on it. Have you any experience with this particular pedal or any advice on settings, I’ll get it eventually just by playing around with it but wanted to enquire on here too.

    Again nice website, love what you do here!
    Wish you luck with your Album and such.


    [Hi Elliot! Thanks for you kind words! You mean the new Deluxe? I haven’t tried it yet but check out Kit Rae’s run-down of the pedal. Cheers! – Bjorn]

  203. Mr Muff says:

    Hi Bjorn,love the site and always enjoy the articles.I take it you have tried all the pedals so im wondering how the wampler velvet fuzz sounded through your rig.Ive been using it for leads through a few mesa amps(lonestar and stiletto and also a marshall) and it sounded pretty decent but im now using a mesa mark v but it sounds terrible through all the channels.Very thin and waspy.Im at a loss understanding why.It has a high headroom,fat sounding clean channel.I guess some amps and pedals just dont work.I miss the creamy leads i got from it before.How was it through your set up?Any recommendations for what muff style pedal would work.Thanks

    [Pedals will react differently to different amps. That’s just the nature of these things. I haven’t tried the Velvet with any Mesas, but while it sounded OK on my Reeves and Laney Lionheart it sounded pretty awful on the Fender Blues Jr. I also have a H&K Tubemeister and although the clean channel sounds wonderful it simply can’t handle pedals, making them all sound fizzy. The gain channel however, has enough headroom for pedals and it sounds really great. – Bjorn]

  204. Mark says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    Really great site which I’ve been poring over having just got a fender start and a Laney cub 12 a mere 27 years since last owning an electric guitar!

    I can stretch to one pedal but am bewildered by the range you’ve reviewed.

    With the Laney, and in a small ‘man cave’ in my house with an already annoyed wife, which single muff, distortion, overdrive pedal would you recommend – I was considering RAT, FX Soul Food or Mooer Triangle Muff.

    Many thanks.

    [The RAT is definitely the most versatile of these I think. While the Soul Food would give you a nice boost for the amp, the RAT would provide a wider range of tones. – Bjorn]

  205. Frederico says:

    Hello Bjorn,

    I’d like to know if you’ve tried the new EH Big Muff Pi deluxe model. Kitrae has made an impressive review…



    [I haven’t had the chance to try it out yet. – Bjorn]

  206. binson7475 says:

    in my country only sold as single clone of the triangle big muff buff mooer you think that would combine well with my boss bd2 keeley?

    [Depending on how your amp and guitar sound, it should work nicely :) – Bjorn]

  207. Jacob says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    I love checking your website and seeing new muff variants I hadn’t seen before…I’m torn between the Mojo Hand Iron Bell and the Blackout Effectors Musket.

    I’m using a Les Paul into an Egnater Tweaker 15…not necessarily the best guitar to capture the essence of Gilmour, but it gets me close (nearly spot on with Another Brick in the Wall, pt. 2!). I do have coil splitting switches which helps out a bit. I also play bedroom volumes…I don’t get to crank things up very often, haha!

    Anyways, I dig most everything that comes from David Gilmour, so I’m not trying to nail a specific era. Is the Iron Bell more versatile than the Musket regarding Gilmour’s tone? Or does one pedal capture the other pedal’s capabilities well enough?

    Looks like you give the Musket a 10 and the Iron Bell an 8, so I’m more inclined to go with the Musket…what do you think?

    Thanks for your thoughts and all the effort you put into the site here!


    [The Musket is perhaps the most Muff-ish of the two but considering your setup I definitely think you’ll be better off with the Iron Bell. It’s a great sounding pedal that has the qualities of both a classic Muff and the more modern sounding RAT. Sounds great with humbuckers too. – Bjorn]

  208. KEITH says:

    Kind of funny Bjorn, the first post I made after receiving my V2 I too capitalized EXACTLY, and said almost the same sentence, ” It’s amazing, it sounds ?EXACTLY like David’s Animals muff, which I believe is the #1. I have my own #1 of 15 now!” I don’t feel quite as alone now. The 3 YouTube clips of the V2 sound NOTHING like the pedal when properly used. The guys who posted those videos either are not Muff guys, or the clips were recorded on phones. That is why I haven’t posted a clip yet. I wanted to be sure to capture exactly what I was hearing from my amp before posting a sub standard clip. I now have the gear to properly record it, and it is forthcoming.

    Peace, sorry to go on about one pedal, but Stu nailed the exact sound we asked him to emulate, and I don’t know how he did it, but it’s so very easy to dial in those DG Muff tones from 77-80.

    [Glad you like the pedal, Keith :) I hope to get my hands on one but then again, you wouldn’t believe how many different Big Muffs I have laying around, ha ha :) The Pig Hoof is my favourite (so far) and I can get the tones I need with this one… it would be nice to compare it with the V2 though. – Bjorn]

  209. KEITH says:

    See what I mean Bjorn, you have to try it, it is so simple to dial in that Animals tone, whether I’m playing my strat, or my Tele, through the Reeves, or my Ibanez. Cem, great choice, I have the first one Stu made! And I LOVE IT!
    PEACE, Keith

  210. Cem says:

    Hi Bjorn
    I just received my Castledine V2 fuzz… I was simply awestruck when I plugged it in.
    It sounds EXACTLY like David’s Animals big muff tone. I don’t really know how Stu did it, but it sounds magical. I strongly recommend it and I don’t think you will be disappointed :)


    [Congrats! – Bjorn]

  211. dimitri says:

    is the tone potenciometrr on the pete cornish g2 the other way arond, like on the proco rat?

    [Nope. It’s turned clockwise for more brightness. – Bjorn]

  212. Otto says:

    Hey Bjørn! Greetings from Finland.

    I’m about to buy a Muff for my bedroom setup and stumbled up on a for sale second hand nearby. It’s named after Pi, but often referred to as a distortion or fuzz. Have you any experience with that one? It seems to be quite an unknown brand, but all sources on the web seems to speak for it. Even the audio samples of it have some Gilmour tones.

    Oh, and by the way, thanks for the excelent site you’re running!

    [Hi Otto! Never seen this one before… The clips sound nice. – Bjorn]

  213. Debargho says:

    thanks for that. Also, could you possibly do a quick review of the Pure Tone Visual Sound buffer? I’m currently in the market to buy one and your first hand, helpful as always review shall help immensely. Does it colour the sound? does it bring out a sparkle? Is it musical enough? Any other tip shall be highly appreciated!


    [I haven’t tried their buffer but based on the reviews it seems to be a good one. Buffers shouldn’t colour or do anything to your tone. The less you notice that it’s there the better. A good buffer should be able to drive your guitar signal through to the amp without any tone loss. I’m using buffers from Pure Tone and CostaLab and are very happy with those. – Bjorn]

  214. Mat says:

    Hi, Bjorn!
    I have 2 questions:
    Does Buffalo FX Patriot and Buffalo FX Powerboost (for overdrive) work well with a Fender Hot Rod Deville 212?
    And which muff clone would be a better choice for the same amp: Wren & Cuff The Caprid or BYOC Large Beaver?
    The guitar I use is an American Special Stratocaster.

    [I haven’t tried that combo so I can’t really tell. The Deville is a fairly bright amp though so I’m not sure if Big Muffs or the Powerbooster are the best match… especially for you Gilmour tones. It can get very bright. You might want to look into some more mids oriented pedals. That being said, the Patriot has a lot of mid range and warmth and would probably be the best match. – Bjorn]

  215. Debargho Sarkar says:

    Hey Bjorn!! Would be awesome if you could review the Deluxe Big Muff soon! (I remember you did mention that you shall be reviewing it). Kit Rae tells me that it’s quite good and if one wants to get the Ram’s head, Triangle AND Sovtek sound, this is the one. He also tells me that of all other pedals (Musket, Patriot, P19, Ram’s Head) can only do a certain tone/sound whereas it’s pretty much possible to get the tones of all Gilmour era’s from the DBM. Kit states “If you want one muff to cover everything from Animals to Pulse, the DBM is really the only one that versatile.” Would be great if you could do a review real soon. And check out the noise level (it does have a noise gate, but still).


    [I see what I can do :) – Bjorn]

  216. Roger Sartori says:

    Hi, Bjorn.
    Electro Harmonix released a new model of the BASS BIG MUFF, called NANO BASS BIG MUFF. It comes in a smaller box than the regular model. Never tested and I would like to know if they both would sound the same… tryed that already? Cheers.

    [As far as I know it’s the same pedal. I’ve only tried the bigger version and it’s very close to the old Sovteks. – Bjorn]

  217. Reed Michaels says:

    Hi, bjorn! Long time admirer, first time poster. A nice salesman at a boutique music shop bashed my guitar pretty good the other day when I brought it in to test some gear. It was no beauty Queen, but the nicks tore up the extensive Nitro finish like a bad report card. He offered me my choice of most pedals in the shop and I left with a wren and cuff “the caprid.”

    Ran out through a hundred watt clean channel of an el34 tubed orange and boosted the back of the pedal with a keeley Blues driver with an El capistan in the loop. The caprid just blew me away for those animal/wall lead tones. With a little research, it seems to be one of their more exhaustively researched and designed clones, hunting down the capacitors, circuit boards, and mixing and matching loads of transistors til they were satisfied with a representative ram’s head sound. I’m wondering if you’ve had any experience with the pedal and what you think of it for the Gilmour muff tone?

    [Sorry to hear about your guitar… I haven’t had the chance to try the Caprid that much but my impression of it is that it’s indeed a well designed ram’s head. It got everything you’d expect and the design it self seems to be immaculate. It’s very difficult to really nail the early Big Muff tones because there was so much inconsistency in the designs. If you really want to make a good clone you need to base it on several circuits and sort of determine what characterised the pedals from that era, rather than reverse engineering a specific unit. I think Wren and Cuff has managed to do so. – Bjorn]

  218. Dave Talkin says:

    I have found a cover version with brief tutorial for Sorrow that I felt would be of interest here.
    He is playing what appears to be an American Standard Strat, mainly from the tremolo bridge saddles into a Boss CS-2 then a Cornish P1 to a Strymon Lex into the EFX loop of a Bad Cat Mini Amp then into a Jaquesmeistersinger Chorus into a T-Rex Replica delay through said Bad Cat amp.
    He does a great job playing bass and rhythm guitar (Telecaster) with lead vocals.
    Here are some great live versions of the song that I like:
    Our own Bjorn!

    Thanks for watching, I really enjoy this site and hope to have my own personal clips up soon and post pics of guitars and gear in the appropriate section.

    [Thanks for sharing the links! – Bjorn]

  219. Johnathan says:

    Hey Bjorn,what do u think of the bass big muff pi as a sovtek clone.Will it give me a huge sound?What other sovtek clones would you suggest other than the Colossus and the BMP1?

    [The EHX Bass Muff is actually very nice and close to the green and black models. My personal favourite is the Buffalo FX Patriot. – Bjorn]

  220. Dave Talkin says:

    Bjorn, thanks for the reply. Yesterday I received my incredible Buffalo FX Patriot pedal through the most excellent Rogue Guitars here in the US.
    Where do I begin to describe the tone of this pedal.
    I used my 1983 Fullerton ’57 reissue Strat, my blackie that I ordered from new.
    I am using a Marshall 1959HW 100 watt Super Lead amp that has has component upgrades by the great George Metropoulos of Metro Amps.
    I have what is called a Dagnall Clone output transformer, F&T filter caps, Sozo signal caps, Allen Bradley carbon comp resistors in key areas, the bright cap taken out of circuit, Mullard EL34 reissue and Tung Sol 12AX7 reissue valves.
    I am running a Metropolous True Replica 4X12″ cabinet which is a direct copy of a 1968 Marshall 1982A cabinet down to .001 of an inch in accuracy.
    The same woods and internal bracing as a real ’68 Marshall.
    Speakers are the very recent Celestion Creamback G12H-75’s @ 16 ohms.
    I have a rare Japanese issue Maxon ST-01 Super Tube Screamer which has 2 of the JRC chips and a fourth tone control for mids-bass.
    I have a Boss DD-6 Digital Delay with Analogman mods, specifically a 3 position toggle switch which has stock, high cut and low cut positions. The cut positions simulate an analogue style of delay giving much warmth to the tone.
    I have a Fulltone Mini Deja Vibe as well.
    The Patriot immediately drove the amp even at low volumes in very musical feedback exactly like the Sorrow track which I have studied practically every version of!
    I know adding more effects will boost the effectiveness of the Patriot even more closely to that of DG.
    I would give this pedal a Gilmourish rating of 12/10 if possible.
    Never have I had an effect so dialed in as this one right out of the box.
    It sounds great with the stock Fender pickups, I’m sure a DG set of EMG’s would sound great but I don’t think I will need them.
    Again this pedal is just incredible and I am excited learning the songs it deserves to be played on.
    Thanks for a great web site.
    I can say when I plugged the Patriot straight in…instantly I

    [Thanks for sharing, Dave! Glad you like the Patriot :) – Bjorn]

  221. Roger Sartori says:

    Hi, Bjorn.
    Apparently, brazilians like to build various clone pedals. For people who wants to have a Musket pedal and think it’s too expensive, there’s this guy who build a very good clone (with customized Pink Floyd graphics), I attest it:

  222. Dimitri says:

    hey Bjorn, have you tried the maxon D&S Distortion/Sustainer its tells its a nice refined Big Muff, is it a nice rams head clone?

    [Haven’t had the chance yet. – Bjorn]

  223. foffy says:

    Hello Senor Bjorn,

    I’d like to have your advice: I’m about to buy a Bass Big Muff Pi from EH. I’ve seen that there’s a new model , Nano version.

    On ebay I can order the old version and the Nano for the same price. Do you know if it’s the same circuit exactly?

    What would you choose? There’s no comparison clip on youtube, no article found…

    Thanks for your help!


    [As far as I know it’s the same ciruit. – Bjorn]

  224. James says:

    Hi Bjorn, I just can’t make up my mind which pedal to buy, so I need your humble opinion. It’s between the buffalo rams head, skreddy P19 and the Buffalo Effects Patriot. If you had to choose one for David’s tone which one would it be.? Thanks

    [The Buffalo and P19 are similar while the Patriot is a slightly different character. Depends on what tones you want and how the pedal fits your guitar and amp. Based on the pedal it self I’d go for the Patriot. – Bjorn]

  225. Dave Talkin says:

    Bjorn congratulations on a brilliant site! I heard the PF track “Sorrow”, the live Pulse version and read about and heard the Buffalo FX Civil War/Sovtek clone “Patriot”.
    This pedal is as close to perfect in what it does out of all the Muff clones I have heard. I am ordering one tomorrow. Had to jump through loads of hoops to get one but once I heard the various demos I was sold. What an incredible, versatile, musical pedal.
    I would like to try it with a BK Butler Tube Driver at some point but was wondering if my heavily modified DOD YJM308 pedal would produce the boosted tones to help out the Patriot.
    Is it common to place the booster after the Patriot in the signal chain or before?
    Again what a great site and with a Gilmourish rating of 10/10 I feel I cannot lose with the Buffalo pedal.
    It appears to be a first class effort in build quality and high grade components are used throughout.
    Will write back with my findings. I am so excited about this pedal, more so than any other for a long long time!
    Cheers Dave

    [Hi Dave! Sorry for my late reply. The Patriot is awesome. Highly recommended! Not sure how it compares to the DOD but in regards to stacking, you could either just let it operate on its own or, as I prefer it, have a very mild and transparent booster placed after it. Cheers! – Bjorn]

  226. Zeero says:

    Not sure about how to read the “noise level” value.
    10/10 of the Cornish tell the pedal is more noisy of one judged 7/10, right?

    [10/10 is the highest score, meaning that the pedal it self makes little or no noise. Mind that all gain pedals will make noise when the effect is engaged. I have just rated the amount of noise from the cirquit. – Bjorn]

  227. Richard says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    So the ‘noise’ (9/10, 7/10 etc.) rating you list above for each unit, is the higher the first number the noiser the pedal is? Also, in regards to the Wampler Velvet, the demos I have heard don’t sound all that dark and muddy to me. Just curious can’t that ‘muddiness’ be adjusted and controlled with proper settings on the amp and pedal (or with something like a Giggity)? Understand all of this is your opinion, but the Velvet seems to get nothing but great reviews from it’s owners. Are you basing your opinions/experience mainly on Wampler’s ‘Gilmour in a box’ marketing of the Velvet, and that it doesn’t really sound like anything tone-wise David gets?
    Best Regards.

    [The higher the number the less noise. All of my reviews are based on my very subjective opinion and what I would consider are suitable for recreating David Gilmour’s tones. My problem with the Velvet Fuzz is that in my opinion it kind of falls between two chairs. I guess what Wampler tried to achieve was the tone of a fuzz or perhaps even a Muff being cranked really hard through a Marshall much like what Hendrix did but also very close to David’s setup. What you get is a saturated and compressed tone with a fair amount of mid range. I don’t think they completely succeeded in that and there are, in my opinion, better sounding similar pedals out there like the Iron Bell and P19 but also the Evolution, which although based on the G2, is kind of what you get when blending a fuzz with a Marshall. The Velvel Fuzz is a very nice sounding pedal and I’d no problem recording or playing live with it but to me it sounds a bit too squeezed and muddy almost to the extent of sounding choked. The Iron Bell and P19 managed to both produce that stacked tone and maintain the character of a fuzz. – Bjorn]

  228. Bryan says:

    Hey Bjorn! After reading your site through, and with your advice, I picked up the Jam Pedals Red Muck and I am 110% satisfied with it! It nails Pulse tones very well given my setup.

    I am again finding myself in need of your expertise. For Wall tones, what pedal would you recommend that is readily available? The Pig Hoof MK2 sounded fantastic, but I’m having a hard time trying one. Or would there be an equally good BYOC pedal / other manufacturer?

    I run DG20’s through a Laney Lionheart (also bought because of your reviews!) with Boss DD7 delay and Boss Ch1 chorus. Those will be going soon in favor of better pedals, but they do work well for what I paid :)

    [Hi Bryan! Sorry for my late reply. The BYOC ram’s head is great and nails those late 70s tones perfectly. I also recommend the Buffalo FX Rams Head, which sounds very nice on the Lionheart. Cheers! – Bjorn]

  229. Swamp says:

    I recommend to try the Mad Professor pedals. In my opinion MP has a many excellent choices for the Gilmour sound.

    Fire Red Fuzz (Big Muff)
    Tiny Orange Phaser (phaser and vibe)
    Electric Blue Chorus (for David’s 80’s and 90’s tone)
    Deep Blue Delay (delay time from 25ms to 450ms)
    Forest Green Compressor
    Ruby Red Booster (You can use the pedal as a treble booster, a clean boost or an overdrive unit or any combination of the above. Also it can be used with or without the buffer.)
    Sky Blue Overdrive (good for light overdrive sound)
    Little Green Wonder (MP version of the Tube Screamer, but still a little something else)

    Maybe you should also try these:
    Amber Overdrive (It produces a very thick sound whether playing chords or single notes – fat and juicy with just a hint of fuzz.)
    Mighty Red Distortion (80′s style compressed gain sounds)
    Sweet Honey Overdrive
    Bluebird Overdrive Delay
    Royal Blue Overdrive

    [Thanks for the tip! – Bjorn]

  230. Ian Knim says:

    Greetings, Bjorn! Did you had the opportunity for testing the latest EHX Deluxe BigMuff Pi (which has a “noise gate” type of “extra resource”)? mentioned in your facebook page?

    [Haven’t had the chance yet… – Bjorn]

  231. Debargho says:

    Thanks for your reply Bjorn. Much appreciated. And thanks for the great review of the Evolution. It would be great if you could do a review of the new Deluxe Big Muff and possibly fare it against some the best boutique muffs listed on your site as well as in my previous questions, above! Thanks for taking the time always, for your replies :)

    [No worries :) I hope to be able to review the new Deluxe :) – Bjorn]

  232. Debargho says:

    Thanks for your inputs Bjorn. Unfortunately these pedals are not available where I live. I do however have the option of having one of the these pedals imported: Iron Bell, Earthquaker Hoof or the Skreddy P19. Apologies for seeking some more info on the subject. Which pedal of the three would you suggest, if you have to pick one? In your review of th Iron bell you state that it is somewhere between a Cornish P2 and G2. You also mention in a previous comment that the P19 is somewhat like the Cornish pedals. In another comment above you mention that the Earthquaker Hoof is the best Muff/fuzz out there.
    I really value your reviews and suggestions so Please help me choose between the 3 pedals listed above! Cheers, Debargho

    [Well, all of the three are really great sounding and although being Muffs, they cover different ground within that family. The Iron Bell is perhaps the most versatile being able to do both Muff and RAT/G2 tones. The P19 is perhaps the closest to David’s Animals/Wall tones, while the Hoof doubles equally as a Muff and fuzz. Personally, I like the P19. – Bjorn]

  233. Robert says:

    Hi Bjorn!

    Thanks for all this info. 2 quick questions (hope they already haven’t been asked).

    1. I bought a reissue big muff with little prior research and I agree with your assessment in trying to get a Gilmour sound out of it. Do you know of any electrical mods to get it closer?

    2. In your experience, how do the Ibanez tube screamers pair with muffs as overdrives? I know you really recommend the Boss Blues drivers but I already have an Ibanez tube screamer in hand.

    Thanks in advance!

    [I’m no expert on mods, so I’m not sure. Why would you want to mod it? Big Muffs can sound rather harsh on the “wrong” amp but in most cases it’s also how the amp is set. Try adjusting the amp’s settings and hear how that matches with the Muff. Muffs like a bit of mid range but too much treble can make them sound almost choked.
    In regards to the TS combined with Muffs. I do recommend a more transparent booster but try it and hear how it sounds on your amp. – Bjorn]

  234. Debargho says:

    Ps: could you please suggest the tone settings for the Tc Electronics Feedback delay and the Cub 12R reverb settings for a typical ‘Animals/Wall/MLoR. (Ex:Pigs (three different ones)/comfortably numb/sorrow) tone?
    I should also like to add that in my previous question regarding a suitable fuzz which sits in well with the Dover Drive, I’m mainly looking for tones similar to the above mentioned songs.
    I play a A Strat into a Cub12R. Thanks, Debargho

    [Flasback: delay 11-12:00, level 10:00, feedback 12:00, mode 2290/tape/analog. The reverb on the Cub depends on how much you want really. David never uses reverb. Only delay. Check out my latest review, the Evolution from BUffalo FX :) – Bjorn]

  235. Ben says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    As much as the Buffalo FX Rams Head is tempting, i’m really after a more budget friendly Muff. As regards the BYOC Large Beaver i’m thinking of the Triangle option for a more generic Gilmour tone for all eras maybe, or would you recommend the Rams Head option? Also, is the assembly tough for a beginner like me, i’m hoping that it’ll be a fun project. It’ll be used with a Laney Cub head and cab i’ve just bought. :)

    All the best,


    [I’m all thumbs so I’ve never even tried to assemble a pedal :) The triangle is a very musical and smooth sounding Muff but the ram’s head is probably a better all-rounder for David’s tones. – Bjorn]

  236. Debargho says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    What is the best suited muff type pedal that works great with a Laney CUB 12R and also sits in well with the Dover Drive?
    Whilst I Love the creaminess the DD generates, I would also like something that has more of that typical Gilmour’s muff growl- best suited for the CUb12R. Cheers!

    [Most Muffs works great with the Cub and DD. The most versatile is perhaps the Iron Bell or Musket. Check out the Buffalo Patriot as well. It compliments the DD very well :) – Bjorn]

  237. Cem says:

    Hi Bjorn
    Which one is better for the 1977-83 tones, the Buffalo Rams Head or the Large Beaver Rams Head?

    [Hard to tell. Both are great so you just have to choose one. – Bjorn]

  238. Tord says:

    Hey Bjorn. Thanks Bjorn, for so much information on this site! It gives me and i guess many others better understanding of tone and doing ur own style through one of the greatest influence in not only the guitar playing but also tone. Great job, this have helped my alot through the quest of tone, and im finaly there :)

    Now i know that a Big Muff is the one i want in my pedalboard for fuzz-sound. For Echoes, Time and Money mainly (With the bd-2 as a rythm crunch/overdrive). I thought about the Red Muck, but its too expensive and i want a more “Analogman Sunface bc108″-screaming fuzz-sound, that you play funky part on Echoes with in the review. I can’t really explain the sound, therefore i refering to the pedal. I think i mean mid-scooped but i dunno for sure?

    I don’t know what will give me the closest tone for a screaming fuzz-sounding, but ive thought of two who got my intention;
    Byoc Large Beaver(my fav from what ive heard and read through ur review and comments, but i dunno “triangle” or “ram’s head”?????. My first thought was the ram’s head for more aggressive, but i don’t know) (i dont know how it works with a sustain knob, so is it the same as gain/fuzz?)
    and Costalab Custom Muff(i dont know how much that cost, but i like it, and you mentioned full blast fuzz in the review :))

    I will use it with my SD ssl-5 in the neck in my maple neck strat. Now i got a Peavey Vypyr 75, but i will buy a Peavey Classic 30/50 so that will be my basic for my tone with the Bd-2 and the other boss buffers in my chain+Wah wah.

    Like Lim up above, which one will suit my tone and needs??? I hope u answer back!!

    Thanks for last reply, and good luck with the solo project! -Tord

    [The best fuzz-Muff pedal out there, in my humble opinion, is the Earthquaker Hoof Fuzz. It’s designed to be somewhat a hybrid with emphasis on the Muff but you can tweak it for some really nice silicon fuzz tones as well. – Bjorn]

  239. Lim says:

    Hi Bjorn.

    I am looking for a versatile muff that can work well with overdrive pedal both in front and after. On its own, I like it to be scooped in the mid range. If I needed extra, I can use the overdrive to fatten things up. Not trying to be Gilmour-tone period correct but just my preference.

    Between Earthquaker Devices Hoof, Blackout Effectors Musket, Mojo Hand Colossus & BYOC Large Beaver, which one will suit my tone? Cheers.

    [Depeneds very much on your amp and guitar. Personally I prefer the BYOC of the ones you’ve mentioned but the Musket is probably the most versatile. – Bjorn]

  240. Smurfman256 says:

    I just got my BYOC Large Beaver Ram’s Head in today from “Axe And You Shall Receive” (since I have neither the equipment nor the patience to actually solder the bloody thing together). And while I was quickly able to find a setting that I liked (all settings at 12 and the mid circuit bypassed), I noticed that the moment that I hit the switch, there was a really loud, very distinct, 60Hz buzz. In your review, you said that the thing was “dead silent”. Is this a problem with my amp (5 watt Laney Cub cranked to 10 and the tone set at 3 [I haven’t tried it with my 130 watt Peavey yet since I need to get new cones for that or my 65 Twin since it’s at my dad’s house out of state and won’t be moving there till mid July]), my cable (a 15-foot cable of unknown brand; it was probably left behind by a band that played in the barn where I practice), my pedal or some combination of the 3? Also, I use an AC adapter, if that makes any difference.


    [Unless the pedal is soldered correctly, which I’m sure Axe are more than capable of, there shouldn’t be any reason why the pedal it self adds noise. 60 cycle hum is recognised by a loud hiss or hum that changes in pitch and can be eliminated when you move around in a room. If it’s static then it’s not 60Hz hum. The pedal more pedals you add, the more you expose your rig to noise interference because you’re basically adding components and cables that acts like antennas. A Muff also has A LOT of gain, which will amplify the hum. It’s always there but you might not have recognised it before you added the pedal. – Bjorn]

  241. Jonas C says:

    Ever messed with the Way Huge Swollen Pickle any? Definitely does the Muff-thing well out of the box, but can be tweaked to resemble almost a Fuzz Face type fuzz too.

    [Never tried it… – Bjorn]

  242. Michael says:

    Hello again Bjorn!
    I have watched/read your reviews and as always, really appreciated all the information you pass along. Just curious to your personal preference in regards to picking Wren and Cuff Box of War or the Buffalo FX Patriot? Both are really great pedals and I wish I could afford both, but don’t think my wife would appreciate that! Lol! :-)
    Thanks again!

    [Ha ha, I know what you mean :) Between the two I’d choose the Patriot. It fits my set up and I also think it sounds a bit more open and even slightly bigger, than the Box of War. – Bjorn]

  243. Cem says:

    Hi Bjorn
    What do you think about the Buffalo Fx evolution? Is it good for any gilmour tones, and would you recommend it?

    [Review coming soon :) – Bjorn]

  244. foffy says:

    Hi Bjorn again,

    I’m looking for an inexpensive pedal that would cover Pulse tones like a sovtek would do?

    Would you recooemnd the EH Bass Big Muff? Is it a great pedal?
    Or the inexpensive Mooer Black secret?

    or what other inexpensive pedal?

    Thank you again!


    [The Bass Muff is a good choice. It’s also worth checking out the new Deluxe Muff from EHX although I’m not sure about the price yet. – Bjorn]

  245. Stefan says:

    Hello M; Riis,

    First of all, I’d like to say congrats for the solo album teaser, really sweet sounding. I did really enjoy the overall feeling, which reminds me a bit of Lunatic Soul, and also Anathema ( violin / e-bow type of leads)…
    I’m longing to listen to the full cd.

    Bjorn, could you tell me what one can expect from the EH Bass Big Muff PI, in terms of its ability of reproducing The Sovtek Big Muff? And what kind of other cheap pedal (RAT Family?…) could do the same job?

    Thank you for your time,

    And keep on creating heavenly melodies!



    [Thanks for your kind words, Stefan! The Bass Muff is VERY close to the late green, early black Sovtek Muffs so it’s definitely worth checking out. The Mooer Black Secret is a very nice RAT clone, featuring the classic LM308 chip for smooth tones. – Bjorn]

  246. Rahul says:

    It’s been a long time since i’m looking fot testing a MUFF, but as incredible as it sounds stores in my country don’t bring then!!!
    Now i bought a nano version! And thanks good i’m reading good stuff about this one, so gonna enjoy it :-D
    Only missing the Tone Guide, why is this page off?

  247. Ernesto says:


    Have you tried the products from the pedal builder called Ronsound: he makes a clone of the Rams Head which is called Hairpie 75. ?

    He also makes a clone of the Sovtek model!

    Seems great.


    [I’ve never had the chance to try any of the pedals but they get some really promising reviews. – Bjorn]

  248. uwe says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    Thank you for your answer!

    I was actually thinking about the ideal Muff (or RAT) for that Divison Bell Tone. I already own a ram’s head clone as you know, use it for Animals / Wall tones, and my feeling is that it’s abit too transparent for WDYWFM and keep talking tones….

    So, as you suggest and if I should go for a Muff or RAT, only for that division bell tones, what would be your choice , knowing that I don’t want to spend much in the pedal?

    Is the MOOER black secret and it’s vintage mode a good choice? Or should I go for the EH Bass Big Muff (I was about to buy one before reading your previous answer, and before watching the Youtube review by Gearmanndude…). I will be using the pedal only for those Division Bell tones.


    [The Mooer is a very good choice I think. It has the original chip and it sounds very smooth and creamy. – Bjorn]

  249. Daniel says:

    Hi Bjorn
    I am interested in buying the Top Tone DG-2 and currently have the Mojo Hand Iron Bell (MIB). In comparing these two, what can the DG-2 do that the MIB cannot? Are these two completely different sounding pedals? I am just trying to justify the price tag on the DG-2.
    Thanks in advance for your advise

    [The DG2 isn’t really a Muff. It’s very close to the RAT, with lots of mid range and a distinct distortion character. The MIB is a Big Muff, with a slightly more transparent tone, more low end and vintage character. It’s tweaked for more mid range and a slightly smoother top, than your usual Muff. – Bjorn]

  250. david mednick says:

    Why not review/mention Basic Audio’s Tri/Ram pedal. Or Stomp Under Foot’s Civil War. I use both and find them to be excellent. I havent tried Buffalo’s Ram, I’d like to try that one. But you should look at these other 2.

    [Ship them over and I’ll make a review :) – Bjorn]

  251. uwe stevenson says:

    Hello Bjorn,

    I’d like to know your advice before I spend too much in a nex Big Muff clone. I already own a ram’s head clone for the naimals / wall area tones. I wanted to get a Sovtek Civil War Muff for my favorite tone , the Division Bell area… like The Wren and Cuff Box of War or Buffalo Patriot. But… I realize there are just a few songs on the Division Bell album, played with the Sovtek Muff (just Keep talking and WDYWFM)).
    Here’s my question: Would it be a good choice to replace them with a RAT clone (Is the Mooer Black secret a good otpion? have you tried it<,)?
    Another question: In my two song examples, (Keep talknig and What do you want from me), I d'ont understand that David uses A big Muff in Studio, and replaces it with The "Chandler TD(vol boost) + RAT" combination in Pulse.

    Indeed I tought the Big Muff was a transparent mid scooped pedal, and the RAT a warm distortion with lot of mids…

    Best regards,


    [I don’t think you should be that focused on what David’s using but rather what works with your guitar and amp. There are no confirmed reports on which pedals David are using on Division Bell but from what I, and amny others, can gather he is using a Muff on Keep Talking. WDYWFM is a bit trickier because it also sounds like he’s using modulation on that track and the delay is colouring the tone as well. My guess is that he’s using a RAT, as he did on PULSE, but it might also be a Muff. We don’t know if he used the Sovtek Muff or the old ram’s head. David’s often using different pedals live than what he used on the albums. It depends on his mood that night and which pedals works better for recording and live use. Sometimes you want a tone that’s hard to achieve with the pedals you’d use live and vice versa. Back to your question. The RAT would definitely be a more versatile pedal. Since you already got a ram’s head, I think I would go for the RAT over the Sovtek. – Bjorn]

  252. Dimitri says:

    any thoughts for the Wampler Velvet Fuzz? is it a nice clone for a rams head ( or maybe the violet rams head) or for the sovtek era? in the video it covers lot of gilmours work :D

    [Check out my short review in the guide above :) I’m not very impressed… – Bjorn]

  253. Manuel says:

    Some time ago I ask you about two options “EHX Bass Big Muff” or “Hoof Fuzz”.. The one that I got before was the EHX because of the price, now I got the Hoof Fuzz and let me tell you.. They are not even close, the Hoof is just amazing, in every setting I’ve tried it sounds awesome. Now I do understand why you recommend the Hoof first, you do really know what you’re talking about.

    Big greetings Bjorn!!!

    [Glad to hear! Yes, they’re very different sounding although both are based on the early 90s Sovtek pedals. The Bass Muff is, in my opinion, one of the better in EHX’s current line up, but the Hoof is definitely a more exciting pedal with more of that vintage flavour :) – Bjorn]

  254. Jack says:

    Hey Bjorn!

    I’ve ordered a BYOC Large Beaver (super excited!), and was checking out some other BYOC stuff and it made me think. Large Beaver will be my first pedal (I borrow from siblings) and was wondering what you thought is the next essential Gilmour pedal?

    I would have guessed delay, so am looking at things like the catalinbread echorec, but I bow to your knowledge!! Any opinions? (I listen to and play things up to the wall era)

    Many thanks,


    [Hi Jack. A delay is a must :) The Echorec is nice but it doesn’t do Animals and Wall that well. You need a more pristine and cleaner delay for stuff like Dogs, Run Like Hell and Comf Numb. You could go for an Echorec and perhaps a digital unit, like a TC Flashback or Boss DD, or simply, just a multi processor, like the TC Nova or Eventide Timefactor, which will give you a wide range of high quality tones. – Bjorn]

  255. Dave Austin says:

    Oops! Should have added an OCD to that rig list!

    One day I may upgrade some things (Buffalo FX Powerboost for OCD, ’74 reissue Phase 90 for Orange 90, CE2 for Mooer Chorus etc) but happy as I am for now…..guitar is ‘only’ a Jap 90’s Squire and amp is a Vox VT30 modelling amp so Laney Cub stack and American Standard Strat will be the next things on the shopping list I think! ;^)

    [I think you’ll be very pleased with the Power Booster, if you decide on one. It will provide classic overdrive but set up as a clean boost, it will also bring life to your amp. The guitar should be fine. The Japanese Squiers from that era have a good reputation and you can always upgrade hardware and pickups, if that’s something you want. – Bjorn]

    • Jack says:

      Hi Dave,

      Bit of a long shot as you comment was a few years ago now (!) but just wanted to ask how you find/found the VT30. I have an opportunity to get one relatively cheap and wondered your opinions? Obviously biased towards Gilmourish tones, but play a bit of everything blues, rock etc. How does it handle pedals also? You seem to have a a great set up!

      Thanks for your help,


  256. Dave Austin says:

    Thanks Bjorn; was leaning towards the Ram’s Head so glad you said that! This’ll be the last of my pedal purchases (for a while anyway!) which completes my Gilmourish rig: MXR carbon copy; Deluxe Electric Mistress; Mooer Chorus; Mooer 90 Orange; RAT2; BYOC Beaver, Ram’s Head; Vox Wah; GPCB DSOTM Fuzz…Wah aside, all pedals were bought from reading the advice from this excellent site. Can’t thank you enough; now achieving all the tones I’ve wanted for the last 25 years!!!

    [Glad to hear, Dave! Looks like a great setup! – Bjorn]

  257. Dave Austin says:

    Hi Bjorn. Have a BYOC Large Beaver on order. I know you prefer the triangle stating that the ram’s head is darker but is there that much of a difference between the two?….really undecided which build to go for! Already have a RAT2 so later Gilmour tones are covered…..just looking to nail the Animals – Wall period. Thanks!

    [It’s not a huge difference but the BYOC kit is designed to produce a fairly mild and darker sounding triangle, and a brighter and more aggressive ram’s head. For Animals and Wall I’d go for the ram’s head :) – Bjorn]

  258. Dave E. says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    Apparently the question I sent a few days ago wasn’t received, so I’ll try again. Which PF or DG recordings in your opinion best capture the clean tone of the HiWatt amps, with and or without the Alembec/Fender preamp?


    Dave E.

    [There aren’t that many “clean” recordings of the Hiwatt. David rarely used the Alembic in the studio but his tones often has either some gain or modulation. Or both. He mostly used Fender amps in the studio anyway but some of the early recordings are most likely a Hiwatt. Slides on A Pillow of Winds and Fat old Sun, the clean rhythm parts on Atom Heart Mother (the track), rhythms on Burning Bridges… I can’t think of much more. Final Cut is also a great Hiwatt album, although most of the tones were recorded with the Hiwatt + Yamaha split. – Bjorn]

  259. sgmarin says:

    Are you tested the Dice Works Muff Driver? That Muff have a switch to enable Cornish modes.

    What do you say about that pedal?

    Regards and Thanks!

    [Never tried it. – Bjorn]

  260. Matt says:

    Dear Bjorn

    thanks to you I have finally found the right gear for Gilmour. And believe me, it lets people turn their heads when the hear my (still mid-size) set up for the first time. Once again thanks for your contribution (even if unplanned) but your reviews and information was incredibly valuable to me.

    Ok, so heres the signal chain:
    – VOX HW846 Wah
    – 70s MXR DynaComp (Script Logo)
    – 70s MXR Phase 90 (Script Logo)
    – Skreddy P19
    – DIY Ram’s Head (from, still waiting for the Pig Hoof)
    – TS9 (used for other stuff and long Feedbacks such as Don’t Leave Me Now together with P19)
    – Fulltone OCD (seldomly used)
    – Boss BD2 Blues Driver (mild OD)
    – Mooer ElecLady
    – TC Nova Repeater
    – TC Corona Chorus (Boss CE-2 Toneprint or as simulation of Doppolas w/ low speed and depth)

    Amp now is a Laney Cub Head with a Cub Cab. I’ve replaced the speakers with two old Fanes from my 80s VOX AC30 (not sure which model, but ceamics with blue baskets). For tubes I’ve swaped the stock ones for JJs and a NOS GE 5751 in V1. This gives the amp a lot more clean headroom – highly recommended for all amps!!!

    For guitars I use a black Fender 50s Road Worn with a SSL5 in the bridge position and a Fender Japan reissue with EMG DG20s.

    This Setup is incredible!!! Thanks again for all those reviews and analyses. It helped me a lot in putting together “my” sound. Funny thing: This setup is highly versatile! I play it in all kinds of different bands.

    All the best

    [Thanks for sharing, Matt! Looks like a great setup! – Bjorn]

  261. clark says:

    I actually ordered the Rams Head clone with my own custom graphic, He said it will be in the post today (technically since its now past midnight) and that it will take a week to arrive so I’ll keep you guys updated on it. If it turns out to play wonderfully then it will be a steal because its only roughly 120$ (American dollars of course), and it has the potential to have custom graphics and it has a mids switch to go from scooped to flat and to boosted. So if it sounds great than for the money, it could potentially and arguably be one of the best muffs clones on the market for the price, and he can also clone any pedal he has an accurate schematic of. Do you have any idea where I can find a good and accurate schematic of the Violet Rams Head?

    [Not sure and, although I’m no expert on Big Muffs, I don’t think there is such a thing as a definitive Big Muff model. As I’ve explained in several comments and features, the early 2-3 generations of Muff had some nasty inconsistency issues and even some of the parts were of low quality. This means that it’s very hard to find two identical sounding pedals, not least because these things doesn’t stand the test of 40+ years of abuse and storing. A violet Ram’s Head had a bit more gain and an overall more aggressive character than the triangle and ram’s head but you can also find violets that are both dark and mild or bright and too aggressive to tame. I don’t think there is or ever will be a definitive clone of a Big Muff. Ultimately, it comes down to how the cloner interpreted the item that was cloned and how you, as the guitarist, prefer your Big Muff :) – Bjorn]

  262. clark says:

    Hey Bjorn how are you doing? Have you ever heard of a custom muff builder called ICMPedals based in the UK.

    [Haven’t tried the pedals but I see they got some interesting clones. Tried them yourself? – Bjorn]

  263. Dimitri says:

    Hey Bjorn, actually i cant afford a WnC caprid and a buffalo fx rams head which for me are the real thing, but i can afford a Pig Hoof or a BYOC large beaver, but while i was reading all the previous comment i spoted the comment from Matt where he suggests on a .
    The pig hoof will take a while like over 9 months + to get it delivered, the BYOC and the DER MUFF VIOLET RAM can get them now , but i am struggeling between those and a RAT2.
    Keep in mind i have a fender frontman 65r amp with both clean and drive channel and a les paul.
    What would you reccomende to me, should i wait for the hoof, or get BYOC or DER MUFF, or simply buy a rat2?

    [I haven’t tried the DER so I can’t really tell but the BYOC is hard to beat. Based on your setup though I think you’d be better off with the much more versatile RAT. A Muff might work but the RAT would be able to cover a lot more tones. – Bjorn]

  264. Dimitri says:

    hey bjorn,has the EH big muff tone wicker a similar sound to the rams head muff? If it doesn’t do you prefer any EH modern muff that has a similar sound to the rams? if not is the wren and cuff caprid a good replica?

    [The Wicker is closer to a ram’s head than the current US Big Muff but really, both are closer to the late 70s Muffs, which had more gain and a darker tone. The Caprid is an excellent option. – Bjorn]

  265. Cem says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    I’ve watched a couple of videos, but haven’t really got an idea formed in my head. What do you think about the Wren and Cuff “the Caprid

    [Sounds very authentic, with a classic ram’s head flavour. The thing about those old Muffs, is that each pedal sounded different… to some extent. All clones out there are either based on a specific pedal or the best of many, so it’s really impossible to say that this or that is the ultimate clone. It’s down to preference and taste. The Caprid has a fair amount of gain and a well balanced low end. Personally I prefer a slightly more aggressive character, like the Electronic Orange Pig Hoof. – Bjorn]

  266. Cameron Cross says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    I love your site! Its the best out there for finding out David Gilmour’s tones. I was wondering if the red label Pig Hoof is too much for home use and that I should go for the yellow label. I play at a local bar once a week so I was curious if one of them would work for both bedroom and stage?

    [What kind of amp and guitar do you use? – Bjorn]

  267. Nicolás says:

    Hi Bjorn! Have you heard the new Wampler Velvet Fuzz? It sounds pretty amazing.

    [Hi! Had for some time and I must say that I don’t like it. Too dark and muddy… my opinion :) – Bjorn]

  268. Pete says:

    Bjorn, have you tried any of the Vick Audio stuff? They have a Triangle, Ram’s Head, and BMP clone. The prices look great.

    [Hi! Never tried them. Thanks for the tip! – Bjorn]

  269. Mike Walters says:

    Any reviews on EH’s new Micro Big Muff??

    [No plans. – Bjorn]

  270. Tom says:

    Ok!!! :) thanks for your advice!!! Hope everything is fine in Airbag :) cheers

  271. Tom says:

    Bjorn, (damn, I need to stop asking questions) im between a Mooer Triangle Buff and a 22/7 Triangle, which one would be the best for the cash? The mooer is alot cheaper than the 22/7 and also I have a solid state combo (well actually, a pretty good amp), so i guess it would be better the mooer.

    Sorry, I promise I’ll try to stop with my questions hahaha

    [The 22/7! Definitely :) – Bjorn]

  272. Joshj says:

    So when buying a black russian muff off ebay, how do you tell weather its the earlier version or the smaller box version that sounds not as good? they all look the same to me.

    [Check out Kit Rae’s guide to the Sovtek Muffs. – Bjorn]

  273. Cameron Cross says:

    Hi Bijorn
    I love your site and I use it all the time as my only resource for David Gilmour’s tones because it is simply the best. I’m looking to start my first pedalboard and I want to recreate David’s PULSE tones because my Strat has EMG DG-20 pickups and it wouldn’t sound right trying to recreate the older tones with hotter pickups. I use a DigiTech RP 500 FX processor and a Laney Cub 12R tube amp. The RP 500 is ok for home use and it models some of Gilmour’s pedals like the Big muff, CS-2, CE-2, etc. However its not good live use. I mostly play at home in my bedroom but I also play at a small bar in my town.I’ve been searching eBay for a BOSS CS-2 and CE-2. So my question for you is what pedals do you think would not only nail those PULSE tones, but work for both bedroom and stage setups?

    [Hi Cameron! Please check out the Buyer’s Guide sections. Every pedal has a reference for a Gilmour tone era. Try to make a list and narrow it down to a few options and let me know if you need more help :) – Bjorn]

  274. Tom says:

    Hahaha, thanks Bjorn, i guess it sounds nice with Gilmour, let’s see how works with me haha.

    Thank you for everything!! This site rules, really

    [Cheers, Tom :) – Bjorn]

  275. Tom says:

    Hello Bjorn!! Do you think I could achieve a silicon fuzz face tone with a Mooer Tri Buff being boosted by a Stock BD 2 ?? Cheers!!

    [Not really. It would sound like a boosted Big Muff :) Dvaid used a silicon fuzz on Time, among other songs, and used a Muff on the 80s and 90s tours to replicate the tones. Works fine :) – Bjorn]

  276. Wayne says:

    Hi Bjorn, I have a Line 6 spider IV 75 amp and a 03 Mexican strat, Im going to get a Big muff pi(US) in the coming days and I need to know if I will be able to get the tone of another brick in the wall part 2 or somethjng similar, with many thanks, Wayne.

    [Hi Wayne. You should be able to cover a lot of tones with the setup. See this feature for some Big Muff tone tips. In regards to Another Brick, that’s overdrive and not a Muff. A Muff would sound too aggressive for the more bluesier stuff. See the David Gilmour Gear Guide for detailed setups for each album and song. – Bjorn]

  277. clark says:

    Hey Bjorn me again.. lol, sorry for the ton of questions. But I know someone selling a BYOC large beaver triangle spec which I have owned and do know its a great muff, but I was wondering if you feel the triangle specs can get a good and authentic Rams Head tone. Thanks.

    [It won’t be authentic, since it’s a triangle but you can get similar tones. The triangle is darker, smoother and not as aggressive. The ram’s head is quite the oposite. Adding a booster to the triangle that boosts the treble side and perhaps even a bit of gain, will get you close. – Bjorn]

  278. Martin Taylor says:

    Hi Bjørn, the last pedal I need for my board is a muff pedal but I can’t decide which one. I’m torn between the Large Beaver, the Musket and the box of war. I’m favouring the Box of War on tone alone but you have said in reviews that the beaver is one of your favorites and that the Musket is the most versatile and best for a bedroom setup which is where I will be mostly playing. I’m playing through a Laney cub 12 r and my other pedals are a WF reissue Rat, Keeley modded Boss BD2, Phase 90 script csp 026 (without led) , Boss DD2 and a Boss rt20. Which do you think would best suit my setup.

    [The BoW and Musket are very similar and both goes well with the setup. The Musket has a few extra features that allows further tone shaping, which can be handy on smaller setups. Personally I’d go for the Musket. – Bjorn]

  279. Keith says:

    Hey Bjorn, a bit off topic, but I bought the Tascam DP 24 Portastudio, and after a great deal of research, found that it really only has two weak points that keep the under $500.00 unit from doing studio quality work. The first being the compressor, which while adequate for home studio demos, a good outboard raises the bar quite a bit. I found an 8 channel, $900.00 Presonus compressor limiter in mint condition for $350.00, and now I only need a good multi channel mic preamp, which is the other onboard weak link. Once the preamp is found, and I have a collection of decent mics,(for now it’s 57’s, and 58’s), I should be capable of doing studio quality, 24 bit, 48khz recording, but as it sits, I can already upload as good quality as YouTube will accept, and being able to put my ideas on CD, instead of forgetting them should be a lot of fun. Many quality recordings will soon follow. Hope to make some great music for everyone’s enjoyment!
    Peace all, Keith

    [Looking forward to it, Keith! – Bjorn]

  280. clark says:

    Hey Bjorn How are you? Thanks for answering my earlier questions, I try not to ask many but you have better knowledge on all things muff than I so I must defer to your knowledge. Ok my question, recently I have been using my Black Russian Muff a lot, and my Caprid. When I A/B them I could hear the subtle differences, The Black Muff sounded larger, bassier and smoother, while the Rams Head of course was brighter, crunchier and more aggressive. My question is, is there a clone out there that does the massive wall sound and on the bassier and smoother side while keeping the aggression and some of the brightness of the Rams Head? I want a muff that leans more to the Sovtek side buy with a little more brightness and crunch without losing the smoothness and the huge and bassy wall of sound, Thanks and cheers, hope your weekend treated you well, and hope you have been enjoying the olympics.

    [Hi Clark! The MojoHand Colossus is basically a beefed up Sovtek. Lots of low end and gain, while still maintaining that crispy top. The Earthquaker Hoof Fuzz is also worth checking out. Kind of a mix between a Ram’s Head and Sovtek, with a super smooth sustain and nicely balanced low end. – Bjorn]

  281. craig says:

    I LOVE this thread you pay great attention to detail. Can you do a breakdown on the Deluxe Bass Big Muff? Thanks

    [Thanks! I’ll do that when I’ve tried it :) – Bjorn]

  282. Roger Sartori says:

    Bjorn, always giving a great opinion and tips! Thanks a lot! Speaking on hints, here’s another one for those who live in Brazil. This guy makes astonishing versions of Big Muffs. I bought the Ram’s Head and Green Russian models with MIDS control and also options for other mods. I totally recommend it, for all of you guys:

    [Thanks for the tip, Roger! I’ll check it out :) – Bjorn]

  283. Keith says:

    Hey Bjorn, have you seen, or heard anything about these Hot Tone all analog, true bypass mini pedals? I’ve just seen them in the case at Sam Ash the last time I was in, but didn’t really pay much attention. However, at $79.00, and about the size of Mooer’s stuff, anx running across an advert that they were all TB, and all analog, it sparked my curiosity. They’re a little oddly shaped, with a clear plastic ptotrusion on the back end, but very small, about 3/4 the length, and 1cm wider than the Mooer’s, kind of oblong instead of rectangular. Any knowledge, or experience with them?
    Thanks my brother, Keith

    PS, going 24 track recording on the 13th, clips will finally be forthcoming!

    [I’ve seen them but I haven’t had the chance to try them out yet. Looks a bit weird but I’m sure they’re worth checking out. The Mooer stuff was a surprise so I guess cheap pedals has come a long way… – Bjorn]

  284. clark says:

    I also would like say you should check out the EHX sould food overdrive. It seems to be a good and natural, transparent overdrive thats footprint and wallet friendly.

    [Yep, looking forward to that one :) – Bjorn]

  285. clark says:

    Bjorn hope everything is goin well with you. I was wondering if you ever played any of the Stomp Under Foot clones. People seem to absolutely rave about them, and for the longest time I didn’t understand why until I saw a clip on some of the Rams Head clones they have. I must say quite impressive I don’t know if I would go as far as some people and say that they are the best clones, but they are pretty good. You should check this clip out, the 2247 clone he made is probably one of the better clones I heard. Take care

    [I’ve tried a few of them. They’re very good. There are so many Muff clones on the market and most of them are very good sounding. Some are straight clones of the original circuits, while others are modern takes with different additional features. I think it’s down to personal preferences and taste and it’s hard to tell which is better or if some clones are that much better than the rest. It always depends on how you’ll be using the pedal and with what gear :) – Bjorn]

  286. Dave E. says:

    Well this has been one of my favorite sites to visit regularly, being a Pink Floyd fan and dubious pursuer of the Gilmour tone. A First Class site in content and presentation, well done Bjorn.

    This is my first post and I thought I would drop a note on my experience with the Retro-Sonic Distortion pedal – a Rat ( a Gilmourish recommendation as I recall) . This has all the RAT virtues that Bjorn has mentioned numerous times: easy to manage with small rigs and a versatile set of tones. But I thought I’d mention that I find it works very nicely as a tone tweak for my Big Muffs.

    For example, right now I am learning Comfortably Numb, so I am employing my SUF Civil War as the main distortion pedal, but it is a little dark and turning the tone up doesn’t really do it for me. So I put the RAT in front of it to add a little clearity, definition and upper mids. I am using light distortion on both, especially the RAT, set in the 9-11:00 range. They seem to play nice together, giving a reasonably convincing Wall CN tone. I know I am stacking a lot of pedals here but losing any one of them detracts from the tone IMO. I’ll be tweaking and swapping pedals for months – so I am not suggesting this is ideal, but it is something to consider.

    Strat with EMG 20 pups: Spx 2, Spc 7, Vol 8
    CS-2 -> R-S Rat -> SUF CW -> BD-2 -> Buffalo Power Booster -> DEM flanger mixed down to 30% wet with LS-2 -> TC Nova Delay -> Blues Jr

    I play at home at “condo volume levels” into a Blues Jr, so I can’t say much about live venue performance. Has any one else gotten good results stacking a Muff with a RAT?

    [Thanks for your kind words and for sharing, Dave! – Bjorn]

    • Bierbattered says:

      Hey Dave, Not for Floyd stuff but for Brit inspired original stuff I used to stack a Vintage Rat into a MJM Foxey Fuzz all the time (live and in the studio).

  287. Terrance says:

    Hi Bjorn, thanks for the honesty. I love that . The Elements is a love hate – it’s like an eq – od – distortion – very versatile so I tend to keep it on the board. The Velvet has a decent overdrive ish (maybe a bit more than OD) for my needs. But again dark, which ends up being a nice rythmn sound. Keep in mind this is a cover band – so I tend need a few different sounds on board. Your reveiw nailed the P19, and yes very versatile and much brighter. It has a great nasty sound if needed – love it. I’m very sure when my original project gets going this will be one of my few gain pedals. Thanks for the input

  288. Terrance says:

    Hey Bjorn, Merry Christmas , Happy New Years and have anice Valetines Day – and Happy New Years if you are Korean. I doubt it but hey .
    So I havebeen looking at Fuzz pedals since our last email re Velvet Fuzz being dark. Last band practice I had enough. No clarity too dark. So I looked at a few and stared at your web page reading about the Big Muffs etc . I do like the Pi9 (pig) but I aslo get that they are all different. The Skreddy came up somewhere and saw/heard your video. I like the review and get that it’s not a bright /mid fuzz . Is it dark like the Velvet Wampler ? oops too late I ordered it anyway . I found a retailer who had one. Can you tell me the best order to use the pedals. If this is a piss off I understand. If not I have
    wampler ego – P19 – maybe the velvet for overdrive – dr scientist the elements – xotic Ep booster – then the ibanez delay for echo and a boss dd7 boss tuner strymon flint. I do use volume knob – if you suggest removing any of these I will hear you. Thanks,
    have a good weekend.

    [Hi Terrance! The P19 is considerably brighter sounding than the Velvet. More Big Muff-ish too obviously but altogether I think you’ll find it more versatile. Not sure if the Velvet works for overdrive but I haven’t really tried it for that application. Personally I wouldn’t use any of the pedals you got in combo. I think that would be just too noisy and too much gain. Perhaps the EP Booster could open up the Velvet and even the P19 a little but neither does really need a booster. I haven’t tried the Elements, so I can’t really tell about that one… – Bjorn]

  289. Chuck says:

    Bjorn! You rock!

    I LOVE the Sovtek tone, killer! Will it get me DSOTM tone, (time solo) in mind here!

    Thanks Bjorn

    Keep rocking

    [Thanks! You can easily tweak for some similar tones… depending on your guitar and amp. David used an early Sovtek for the Time solo on PULSE :) – Bjorn]

  290. clark says:

    Hope you’re doing well, fair enough on the guide comment. I can’t wait until you update it with other pedals like the Caprid and P19. I do have a question but its an easy one, I am curious to which big muff is the one you like most? I’m currently equally torn on the Rams Head and Civil War, I do love the later Russian models because of their boomy but tight low end with that snarl of the earlier and later US models. In saying that I feel the Rams Head and Civil War have the best combinations with each having a little more presence in certain areas, like Rams head having more bight and being brighter and the Civil War being more boomy and bassy but tight with really smooth grit and that thunderous sound that comes from your amp when hitting an Em. I think this is why we all love Big Muffs, they do have a signature sound but they all have their little quirks and deviations that make them special, thanks.

    [Hi Clark! It’s always difficult to answer questions like these because I don’t really have a favourite. It depends on what tones I need and what gear I’m using. In most cases, I prefer a ram’s head and I guess, if I had to choose, I’d go with the Pig Hoof. The Sovteks are great for certain applications and equally the triangle. Some of the clones with mids controls are great for recording and for cutting through a band mix… – Bjorn]

  291. Stevie Bees says:


    I thought you might like to know about a Muff clone that I recently bought: the BMF Effects Aries Fuzz. It’s supposedly based on the Violet Ram’s Head Muff and it has an additional mids control. I played it today through a Carl Martin Plexitone prototype set up with just a hint of dirt and into a V-Amp 2 set to a clean combo. I added a bit of flange and delay at the V-Amp and used my G&L Legacy with Seymour Duncan Antiquity Surfer pickups. It’s the closest I’ve ever come to getting a tone in a Gilmour area. If you get the chance you should definitely try one!



    [Hi Stevie! Never owned one but tried it a few years back. Sounded really nice. Very similar to the Pig Hoof but a tad darker :) – Bjorn]

  292. John says:

    Hi Bjorn I have recently discovered this site and I love it. I am still trying to accumulate the necessary gear for Animals/The Wall era sounds. The videos on the Big Muff tutorial are very helpful. So far I have a replica of the Black Strat that I put together myself from a 09 Mexican body and 99 USA neck, pickups are identical to the Fender edition. I use two Fender amps, Blues JR and/or Deluxe Hot Rod. I also have a 65 deluxe reverb. Pedals include Boss DD3 delay, CS3 compressor, bixonic expandora overdrive, electric mistress, and a US reissue Big Muff. I cant get the sound I am looking for. You seem to nail it on songs like “Mother.” I realize now the muff reissues aren’t very good, but I seem to be way off. I’m thinking about purchasing a Boss RT-20 to add to the mix. Any suggestions for getting closer to that sound?

    [Hi John! Sorry for my late reply. As always I recommend starting with the amp. Setting it up for the right basis for your pedals is crucial for getting the tones you want. See this feature for some amp setup tips. The US reissue Muff is all that bad but it’s not ideal for David’s tones. You might want to check out a model that isn’t that saturated and boomy. The EHX Bass Muff is actually very good and nails David’s 80s and 90s tones in particular. Check out the Buffalo FX Ram’s Head as well for those Animals and Wall tones. Hope this helped :) – Bjorn]

  293. Roger Sartori says:

    This video (not made by myself) shows these Big Muff Ram’s Head replicas made by a brazilian guy. Pedals are very simple yet with a nice touch and more important: relatively cheap. Take your own conclusions about it:

    He also produces other Big Muff clones such as Civil War and Green Russian. Have them all and love them!

    [Thanks for the tip! – Bjorn]

  294. Denis says:

    Hi Bjorn, greetings from Miami,Fl U.S.A… So what is your favorite top 3 triangle clones?…I wish this site was around 20 years ago. Thank you for making it.

    [Thanks! That’s a hard one… haven’t really tried that many triangle clones… Obviously, one of my all time fav Muff clones is the BYOC Large Beaver triangle. Apart from that… the Red Muck from Jam Pedals. Kind of a mix between a triangle and Sovtek but definitely a triangle-ish. Third… I don’t know… Once tried the WnC Tri Pie, which sounded very nice. – Bjorn]

  295. clark says:

    Hey Bjorn I wouldnt say you are lazy for not building a BYOC muff, I would say smart. It has been quite frustrating… they did forgot a diode in the package but I screwed up a bit so its mostly on me. I would like to know though what about those three makes them the best 3. I must say I am quite pleased that you listed the caprid, since I am user and an avid user. Thanks for answering my questions, cheers.

    [I think I’ve explained why in the guide above :) I’ll update it with the Caprid as well. To be honest I rarely use Muffs for my personal tones. Mostly for playing aorund with Gilmour tones and one or two Airbag solos but mostly I use conventional distortions like the RAT, Keeley/Boss DS1 or a combo of the Fulltone OCD and Tube Driver. The Muff has a limited range and it doesn’t sound like anything else than a Muff. I find distortions and overdrives and the combination of these to be more versatile and easier to experiment with. Having said that, among Muffs I prefer the ram’s head for it’s raw and aggressive tone. All of the top 3 pedals are in that category and their subtle differences makes them usable for different applications. – Bjorn]

  296. clark says:

    Hey Bjorn hope you are doing fine. I havent commented much for a long time because I have had the fortune of loving the gear that I currently have. But that aside I would like to hear your top 3 rams head clones in your opinion. Also have you ever built a BYOC large beaver? I decided to give it a shot and its been much more challenging than I thought, but I never soldered in my life before so I shouldnt have expected it to be as easy as I did. I hope everything is going well on your end, thanks.

    [Hi Clark! Never assembled any pedal… I’m too lazy :) My top 3 ram’s heads? 1. Electronic Orange Pig Hoof MkI/MkII, 2. Buffalo FX Ram’s Head and 3. WC Caprid. I also love the MJM Foxey Fuzz. Perhaps intended as a triangle or evern earlier than that but it has a distinct violet ram’s head kind of tone. – Bjorn]

  297. Tércio says:

    Hello Bjorn !!

    What you think about Nano Big muff Pi ?? Do you think, they can get the Gilmour tone ??

    Cya !!

    [I haven’t tried it yet but from what I understand it’s based on the bigger NYC reissue with a few minor tweaks. Like the late 80s Op amp Muff it’s not the best choice for Gilmour’s tones. It’s definitely possible to tweak for some convincing tones but I think there are better options out there for those Gilmour tones, like the EHX Bass Muff and the Mooer Triangle. See the Buyer’s Gear Guide Big Muff for other recommendations and alternatives :) – Bjorn]

  298. Keith says:

    Oh yeah Bjorn, forgot to mention. I really have a difficult time with doing the clips, as I had no way of doing them at home, and to go DAW, I’d have to get a new computer, and wouldn’t settle for anything but a Mac for recording. I could drag all my gear to my friends, and record 1 clip there, but being someone who knows the recording process, but not the computer based DAW way, ans today being my birthday, I’ve decided to give myself a Tascam DP 24. Everything I’ve read says it’s perfect for my purposes, and being a fader, and knob turner, as opposed to a mouse slider, plus the fact I can get a full 24 track start up studio for around $600.00 including a couple of 57s, and 58s, I’m sure it’s the best starting point for me. If you aren’t familiar with the DP 24, and 32, check out the review, and explanation on a site called sound on sound. I had the old 4 track portastudio 244, and think Teac/Tascam was the original, on which I made many very decent demos, and while much more up to date, and digital, with lits of belks, and whistles, it has a certain familiarity to it, and instead of talking about making clips, I could under the right circumstances, do several clips over the space of a weekend, and it does sync with DAW software, so it would slowly get me up to date. Anyone have experience with the DP 24, or 32? The only even mildly weakness I’ve
    found after many searches, are the mic preamps could be better, and the onboard guitar effects aren’t great, but it does have effect sends, and returns, and the firmware is constantly being updated, and the latest version is supposed to have repaired any glitches it had when it first came out.
    Wish me luck, I’m sure it will be a lot of fun for the money.
    Peace, Keith

    [A belated happy birthday, Keith! I don’t have that much experience with mixing hardware. I’m using Logic my self… all digital and no interfaces or mixers. Anyone else here has any experience with this? – Bjorn]

  299. Keith says:

    I know! ;)

  300. Keith says:

    I didn’t explain the statement,”I didn’t want a muff.”, in my last post. What I meant was, I was quite happy with the Musket, and didn’t see a need for a muff for my purposes, but when the friend who initiated the project turned it over to me, I thought it my respinsibility to purchase one. So, I didn’t expect anything special, considering even Stuart admitted,( rather over humbly IMO!), That he wasn’t a muff guy, but would give it a try. And once again, IMO, he did a phenominal job at producing a pedal that does exactly what I would want a muff to do. Just wanted to make that clear, as to why I feel my opinion is about as nonbiased as is possible, if one considers that I had no intention of buying any muff clone, so therefore had no idea what it would sound like, until it was plugged in, and had it been anything less than what I’ve previously stated, I wouldn’t have gotten excited about it, or posted several posts about it.
    Peace, still your devoted Padawan, Keith

    [That’s what it’s all about isn’t it? Nothing beats the feeling of plugging into a pedal without any expectations and getting blown away. Obviously, since David used a ram’s head, it won’t be quite right until you actually play one and even though you’re not set on replicating any specific tones we all know that tone and use that as a reference. IOM the violet fits a Strat and Hiwatt/Revees especially well. Anyway, I wasn’t trying to underestimate the pedal in any way but rather try to explain what it takes to recognize and duplicate a tone. Cheers! – Bjorn]

  301. Keith says:

    You’re not being a party pooper at all. I didn’t want a Muff, and had no preconceived notions what it would sound like. I really am giving you an unbiased opinion of what the V2 sounds like compared to other Muffs I’ve heard, and what my guitar sounds like through my rig, and to my ears, while maybe not the best, are classically trained, and have 35 years of musical experience. So, all varibles aside, all I’m saying is this pedal gets me as close as I could hope to the tones I hear on Animals. And, I know that is a subjective opinion, but not totally unfounded, based on other attempts to achieve that sound I hear. I always value your knowledge, and opinionand maybe I oversimplified it, but lets leave it at, ” I have not heard a better sounding Big Muff live, or on video.”.
    Still Love ya, Keith

    [Awesome! Hope you get around to make those clips :) – Bjorn]

  302. Postecutioner says:

    No Bjorn, he did it with the most amazing pair of ears! I can’t hear much, if any difference between the tones I’m getting, and live recordings the #1 was used on, and without too much trouble, I’ve gotten very close to the studio recordings of Animals. A little tweaking, and I think it is as close as can be, without Cornish’s schematic!

    [OK, please forgive me for being the devil’s advocate here. First of all, I do not doubt a second that the pedal sounds awesome. I’ve never had the pleasure of playing any of Castledine’s pedals but from what I’ve read and heard, he knows his stuff. For me though, again, without having tried it, this is just another Big Muff clone. It just so much you can do with the basic schematic.

    Again, I don’t doubt that Stu has a good ear but no matter how experienced you are it’s impossible to tell for certain how David’s Animals and Wall tones actually sounded. For one, obviously, what you hear is a combination of David’s guitar, the pickups, the signal chain through the pedal board, any combination of pedals that he might be using, the Hiwatts and the Yamahas. Add to this, the processing of the recording – either bad transfer of bootleg sources onto different medias or mixed and mastered studio recoridngs.

    For 99% of all of David’s Animals and Wall Muff live tones, he would use the bridge pickup on his Strat (DiMarzio FS1 for Animals and S Duncan SSL1c for Wall) and the signal was split into the Hiwatts and Yamahas. For Animals he would mostly use a combo of the Muff > Colorsound Powerboost > Electric Mistress > delay. For Wall it seems that he rarely used boost. The Cornish board also featured a tone circuit that he might have used with the Muff.

    Tone is also about perception and how you interpret the tone. On this level, analyzing a tone requires that you know exactly what the setup is, how each component sound and how they were set up. You also need to free your mind from any subjective opinions and associations. It comes down to experience and knowing what to look for. I can make a RAT or even an average overdrive sound like a Muff just by believing it and I will tell you how great it sounds because it sounds great to me.

    There are lots of great sounding ram’s head clones out there and everything said about the V2 can easily be said about the Pig Hoof, P1, Large Beaver, Foxey Fuzz, Caprid etc… based on my experience with these at least.

    I’m sure you hate me by now but don’t get me wrong on this. I’m very happy to hear that you’re excited about the V2 and it makes me want to try one… I can’t wait! I think your enthusiasm rubs off on us all! My point though is that there are no easy solutions for a good tone. And, as much as I would like to get my hands on a duplicate of David’s rig, I know that it won’t sound the same with my hands. – greetings from the Party Pooper]

  303. Postecutioner says:

    Is there any way to edit clips in moderation status. I check, and check, and only after I hit submit, do I find the many typos. I guess if I got in the habit of using my computer, where I could see the entire message I’m typing, I wouldn’t have all the typos, but the smartphone is so convenient. However, if there is an edit function, please inform me how to do it :)
    Thanks, Keith

    [Unfortunately there isn’t. It usually is on the forums bot not on blogs… – Bjorn]

  304. Postecutioner says:

    Hey Bjorn, just when I’d given up hope, my old bassist, who has an excellent home studio called and offered to record the audio for the V2 clip, and using the zoom as the video caprure, in 1080 p, and as the two track master, I would think I could get a near brocast quality clip, and really show the best Muff in the world off. Evidently, I’m not alone, as someone took me at my word, and bought the #2, and has confirmed that it is indeed what it was intended to be. As close as the human ear can get to David’s 1973 #1 Violet Ram’s Head. It sounds so good with everything ser at noon, I still haven’t found any need to boost it, even at bedroom levels. I hate to use this ift used cliche, but this muff is Animals in a box, no Bullshit, and if nothing else, I have a very good ear for minute details! If anyone cares to purchase a perfect Gilmourish Muff, buy thr V2 while you can, I will have a clip of the pedal up a week from this coming Monday, that will blow your mind!
    Peace, Keith

    [Looking forward to hear the clip. I’d love to try the pedal as well and hear how Stu has interpreted the tone. I assume that he hasn’t actually reverse engineered David’s old Muff? – Bjorn]

  305. Pedro Costa says:

    Hello, Bjorn

    Thank’s, Your site is fantastic!!!

    Today I decided to buy the “Wren and Cuff Box of War”, but I see in the Site of Wren and Cuff that they have also a clone of Ram’s Head, the “Wren and Cuff The Caprid”…
    Do you know this clone and if there’s a good option?

    Tank’s again,
    From Portugal
    Pedro Rafael Costa

    [Thank for your kind words, Pedro! The Caprid is a true ram’s head clone and slightly different sounding compared to the BoW. Depends on what tones you want. The ram’s had has a bright aggressive tone with lots of sustain and vintage character. The early Sovtek Muffs has a darker and warmer tone with more mid range and low end. – Bjorn]

  306. Roger Sartori says:

    Check this Ram’s Head clone, made by a brazilian guy:

    He also produces other Big Muff clones, such as Civil War, Green Russian, etc.

    [Thanks for the tip! – Bjorn]

  307. Roger Sartori says:

    “Way Huge Swollen Pickle Mkii Fuzz Pedal” is the name of the child. Have you ever heard it or tried it?

    [Nope. – Bjorn]

  308. Keith says:

    Hi Bjorn, wish you were close enough to lend you my V2. I haven’t the gear, and haven’t had time to make a good enough clip, and would hate to see the best damned Muff I’ve ever heard go by the wayside because no one’s heard it, so no one knows of it’s existence. I know the forum guys are waiting to hear a clip from me, but I won’t post a smartphone video of the work of a true artist. I also don’t want Stuart to lose interest in making many more than the original 15, because he hasn’t got a good clip up, and won’t sell many until it’s properly heard. I feel like I’m letting everyone down, but I just can’t put any old crap up, so I’ll figure something out! Anyway, hope one finds it’s way to you, as they’d fly out of his shop should you get your hands on one.
    Peace, Keith

    [No worries Keith. I hope to be able to try one some day :) – Bjorn]

  309. Caevan O'Shite says:

    Hey! Cool ‘page here, thanks. Just for the record, I bought the very last (Version 1) VFE Fiery Red Horse made; unlike the specimen reviewed above, mine has A LOT of gain and output-volume on tap. Its Mid, Power, and Clipping controls- in addition to the Sustain, Tone, and Volume- make this pedal EXTREMELY versatile! I sometimes have a hard time deciding which pedal I want it to be! LOVE mine!

    [It’s a nice pedal but not quite my taste. Glad you like it :) – Bjorn]

  310. Keith says:

    Hello Bjorn, I have a rather important question, I have to get a clip up soon, or no one will speak to me again. My problem is, I really can’t see spending my studio time on it, and hate asking friends with home studios to go through the trouble. I have a Zoom Q3hd recorder, and wonder if you thought that I could place the stereo speakers at the proper distance from the zoom, and set my amp to a point at which the levels were close, do you think I could get a halfway decent clip? If I had a 57, and a interface, and some inexpensive software, I could use the mic in, and it would basically be at least close to a decent clip recording set up, but alas, all my gear went at one time, and while I have a great rig, I haven’t even began to learn the digital, computer based recording techniques thar sprouted up while I was on “Hiatus”. Any ideas of an inexpensive interface, and software that would act as a mixer, with basic reverbs, delays, that I could add a mic’d amp, to a backing track, and output into the Zoom, as a two track master? Or, given the time, and money issues, should I give the first idea a go? I feel like I missed out on so much in my time away. Last time I recorded, ADATs were new! Alot has changed about home recording since ’98. I suppose I could buy a digital multitrack recorder that comes with the software, and directly interfaces to your PC, they have gotten a lot less expensive. Sorry to be so long, but want to do the V2 justice, as it’s truly among the best Muffs I’ve heard.
    Thanks, and happy new year, Keith

    [Hi Keith! Not sure if the Zoom alone would make the pedal justice but I’ve never tried it so I can’t really tell. >re you using PC or Mac? I’m a Mac guy myself and Garageband should do the trick. A basic sound interface from MAudio or similar would make it possible to connect to a PC and MAC. I’m sure there are lots of free or cheap easy to use mixing software for PC as well. Cheers! – Bjorn]

  311. Leroy says:

    Very nice article! Still, I can’t decide between the Large Beaver , Pig Hoof mk2 and Musket. I play a les paul and want to use the fuzz only for the solos. I would like to get something similar to The Wall/ Animals tone. Which one would you recommend? Thanks and happy holidays ;)

    [It always depends on your amp and guitar and it can be a bit hard to nail the tones with humbuckers. Not knowing what amp you use I recommend the Large Beaver triangle model. It’s probably the most versatile of the three and fits humbuckers very well. – Bjorn]

  312. Pete Tatooles says:


    Cheers – I am very interested in the 10/10 overall rating on the WREN & CUFF Box of War. I am going to grab one but you must have some sage advice to give it a 10/10 Gilmourish Rating – that score merits something special as I use your reviews very frequently in pedal selection.

    Shine On,

    Pete Tatooles

    [Hi Pete! The scores are based on several criteria including whether the pedal is what it promise to be. The BoW is by far the best sounding Civil War Sovtek I’ve played and it also performs very well on smaller setups. This means that if you’re looking for David’s Animals tones, then you have to look elsewhere. My scores are also based on testing the pedals on my guitars and amps so they might not work as good on your rig. Cheers! – Bjorn]

  313. Andrea says:

    ok! So definetely the musket instead of the large beaver? Actually the lots of controls on the musket scare me a bit….and can you suggest me what compressor is good for me? I wanted to buy a CS3 and the man in the shop refused to sell it. He said it’s awful…do you agree?
    thanks again and I wish you a merry christmas ;)

    [It always depends on what tones you want but based on your setup and the tones you mention I would say the Musket. No need to be scared of the controls. It has three classic Muff controls and three for further tone shaping. The Focus control in particular is very cool for smaller amps.
    The CS3 isn’t awful but there are no doubt some much better option out there. Personally I’ve always been a huge fan of the classic Dynacomp and one of the better versions of it is the Whirlwind Red Box. Check out the Barber Tone Press as well :) – Bjorn]

  314. Andrea says:

    Hi mate, many thanks for your amazing website! I need your help: can you suggest an effects configuration for my american special strat + laney cub 12r?
    I play at home and my target is the “on the turning away” solo sound but I’d like to have at the same time something versatile for other eras. I read carefully the guide and I’m pointing to the large beaver, musket, the hoof, colossus, box of war…what’s the best? What about compressor, booster and chorus? cheers ;)

    [Hi! For starters, check out the Tone – Amp tutorial for some amp setup tips. On the turning away was recorded and performed live using a Boss HM2 into a Mesa head, with chorus and delay. I guess a RAT would be the easiest and closest match but you can also nail the tone perfectly with a Muff. I’d go for one with lots of mid range, like the Musket or Box of War. Personally I like the Musket and it’s also much more versatile for other stuff than the BoW. You’ll also need a chorus, any model would do but check out an analog model like the Mooer Ensemble King or CostaLab ChorusLab. You could pretty much use any delay but it’s hard to beat the TC Flashback in terms of price and tone. Hope this helps :) – Bjorn]

  315. Matt says:

    Hey Bjorn,

    there is a Ram’s Head clone kit by a German company named Musikding. I’ve ordered and built mine and it blew me away! It nails The Wall pretty much, sounds great even at lower levels. A real choice for us European guys. And the best thing is: it costs only some 30 Euros (case included)!!! Awesome Muff for the price. There are some videos on youtube, one where one guy plays dogs. You ought to check this out!

    Merry x-mas to everyone!

    [Thanks for the tip, Matt! Enjoy the holidays! – Bjorn]

  316. Siddharth says:

    hey thanks a lot for all the info Bjorn !! I checked out the shops here, sadly none of these are available… i’ll have to order these from abroad…


  317. Pier says:

    Hey Bjorn! I recently discovered your website and this place is a wealth of knowledge not only for Gilmour’s fans but for any guitar player!

    I am quite an “advanced beginner” bedroom player, I am also a Gilmour fan but I would like to be very flexible on my setup in order to nail different tones (eg. mainly 90s Grunge/Alt rock bands). I am building my first pedalboard and so far I have: Crybaby->TS9(mod TS808)->boss GE7(monteallums mod)->Phase 90 Script->boss CE2->Tc Electronic Alter Ego into a Vox AC4C1. I play a 64 fender mustang, an es335 and a strat.

    Now the 1 Million dollars question: I have still space/budget for one pedal and I am considering a distortion/muff/fuzz. What do you think will be the best pedal to fit and complete my setup in order to get a step closer David’s tone but also flexible enough to play other stuff?

    Many thanks in advance for your answer!!!

    [Hi Pier! Always hard to suggest a pedal that does it all but personally I prefer something versatile for whenever I want to nail as many tones as possible. Once you start to go for authenticity you’ll narrow and limit your options. The Fulltone OCD, Wampler PlexiDrive (sounds great combined with the TS808) and the classic RAT should be up for the job. If you want something a bit nastier I’d check out the MojoHand Iron Bell or TopTone DG2. Cheers! – Bjorn]

  318. Siddharth says:

    hey thanks! i’ll see if i can find it locally and try it out… As of now i just have the muff w tone wicker and an electric mistress..the thing is that the money solo (orignal album version) sounds so clean as in, the notes are so clear even with that screaming kind of sound. sorry i can’t describe it properly.. but basically i wanted to be able to get that kind of sound..i know that it would be very difficult to get with just a big muff, but if there are certain settings on it or the amp which can help me get close ? And if there is a cheap alternative pedal to achieve similar tone ?
    Also , I have heard many versions of Comfortably Numb, but can’t quite make out if an Electric Mistress is used on it ? And, if these were the settings on the original Deluxe Electric Mistress , “rate 9:00, range 10:00, colour 10:00″.. is it possible to get a similar sound on the Stereo Electric Mistress ? and what would be the settings on it, in case you have tried on this..


    [Hi! David used a fuzz on the album version of Money so if you’re desperately seeking the authentic tone then you might want to consider a fuzz. There are lots of different alternatives out there but if you want something affordable and easy to get then check out the silver or blue Mini Fuzz Face.
    There was no Mistress on the album version of CN… only the 1980-81 live version. The Stereo Mistress is more like a very deep chorus and I don’t really recommend it for replicating David’s tones. Check out an analog chorus or the Mooer ElecLady, which is much closer to the original Mistress. – Bjorn]

  319. Fernando says:

    Hi! thanks for this excellent guide!
    I have seen you have tested chains in so many different ways… I want you to help me to order my pedals for a balanced use of true.b and buffers. Here are my pedals: -Big Muff with tone/wicker – Boss CS3 – (true-bypass modded) Cry Baby- MXR script Phase 90 – EH Neo Clone – Boss DD3 – Behringer VT999 (12AU7, tube you recommended, very satisfied with it :-)) – Pete Cornish G-2 Clone (without buffer).
    I don’t use daisy chains. I use a diy regulated-isolated power supply. What will be the most efficient way to place those pedals? Thanks!

    [Thanks! Try this: guitar > wah > CS3 > G2 > Muff > VT999 > Phase 90 > Clone > DD3 > amp. How about that? – Bjorn]

  320. Siddharth says:

    Hi, I wanted to know if I can use the ‘Big Muff Pi with tone wicker’, for songs like Comfortably Numb and Money ? I have a very basic setup as of now, Fender Affinity, + Orange 20W + the BigMuff Pi w tone wicker and a Stereo Elec Mistress … What would be the ideal settings on this in your opinion for the those songs, and in general for similar tones.. ? Anything to help me get close to the correct sounds… I know I am missing a whole lotta gear :) but this is all i could get with my budget as of now ..

    Thanks in Advance!
    Big fan of this site !!! :)

    [Hi! The Tone Wicker works nicely. I also recommend checking out the EHX Bass Muff, which is very close to the Sovtek Big Muffs. Pedal settings always depends on your amp, what other pedals you use with the specific pedal, your playing style etc etc. Start off with the controls around noon and tweak your way around that but don’t overdo it. See this feature for some amp setup tips and this one for some Big Muff tone tips. Cheers! – Bjorn]

  321. Kevin M says:

    Bjorn or other fellow readers. I am leaning towards purchasing a Pig Hoof But not sure which one. I did read both reviews on the site and watched the videos.

    I am mostly a rhythm player but am venturing into soloing. This is more for own enjoyment of playing and sometimes with friends. Being a rhythm player I like to have a little more bass in my sound so I can have that bottom “feel”! I play into a 4×12 with V 30’s but will eventually down size to either a 2×12 or 1×12. I am using a Fender strat with D Allen VooDooBlues pups.

    That being said and having read the details of the pedals, because I like to have a little extra bass in my over all sound I was wondering which Hoof would suit my needs better? If I use the Red model will there be too much bass? If I use the mkII with my amp bass up a little will I end up with the Red sound and not having it sound to muddy?

    Thanks guys for any input that you give.. It will all be greatly appreciated.

    Kevin M

    [Hi Kevin! I’d go for the red. It’s a monster in every sense with lots of gain and low end but it has tone and sustain all the way. The MkII is a bit cleaner with a little less gain and low end, tweaked for my studio setup. Cheers! – Bjorn]

  322. Keith says:

    Hey Bjorn, gonna go for one of the 15 V2’s? I hope so. I know you’re a big Violet fan, and a good review from you would almost guarantee a long run, or possibly even get it added to his stock pedals! I hope I can do it justice in the YouTube clip I plan on recording. Gonna do the “Dry” solo from Dogs. I think that would be the ultimate test for what the pedal is supposed to be.
    Take care, and regards to your family during this season of Joy, and Peace, your friend, Keith ;)

    [Hi Keith! Well, if Stu sends me one I’d be more than happy to do a review :) All the best for the holidays my friend :) – Bjorn]

  323. Brandon says:

    Dear Bjorn,

    Yours is easily the coolest most comprehensive and informative tone resource I have ever seen. Thank you so much for everything you do.

    I am very interested in linking the inputs on my amp. However, I am not sure if my amp is capable and I am more worried of doing something wrong and damaging it. If you have any experience doing this with a 40w fender blues delux reissue I would greatly appreciate your instruction.

    Also. I have been chasing Trey Anastasio’s tone for years, but have realized that his phenomenal Languedoc hollow bodies are simply the most important part of the tone. As I do not have $10,000 to burn I have decided to chase Gilmour’s. The tone which made me want to play guitar in the first place! I have been stacking a Green Rhino -> TS9 but am struggling to get David’s smooth yet razor sharp tone. When I imagine what I’m going for I think of the over driven part from Shine On Wembly 1974. I’m sorry I can’t remember the time stamp. I can get back to you on that if you’d like. I have been wondering if I need to go with a muff. What do you think? I would probably stack it with the rhino in order to keep the mid and bass shaping knobs :)

    Other info
    American standard strat
    Phase 90
    Diamond compressor
    Green rhino
    Morley volume pedal
    MXR carbon copy

    Thank you so much and take care!
    Brandon Oubre

    [Hi Brandon! I’ve never linked the inputs on a Blues Deluxe so I can’t tell how that sounds but try it. It won’t damage anything. I think the razor sharp tone you’re talking about is mostly just David’s Strat with a transparent booster and the bright Hiwatts. This might be hard to achieve on a Fender with a Green Rhineo/TS9 setup, since this has considerable more mid range than David’s setup. I’d consider a more transparent and brighter sounding overdrive like a Boss BD2 or, if you want to get THE tone, check out the Buffalo FX Powerbooster or ThroBak Overdriveboost. You’ll find reviews for both here on the site. See this feature for some tips on setting up your amp. – Bjorn]

  324. Jerome Whitson says:

    can’t wait for your writeup on the Skreddy P19. I was amazed that it was so easy to dial in the Wall tones. It seems like he included all the post production mixing and mastering from the album into the pedal. Pretty impressive. Ive never heard a muff sing and soar and be that quiet!

    I have been experimenting, using a BK Tube Driver after it in boost mode giving me that Pulse tone, and even tried it with an SS-3 set to light/med drive. The low end of that ss-3 gets you into thunderous lows — civil war’ish

    pretty perfect stacked with other pedals(starts to sound more ‘cornish’.. seems his muffs are like a muff, compressor, tube driver, etc all in one box. lol).

    Great on its own as well. Hope you do some stacked clips!!!! and hope you are doing well!!

    [Agree with your observations here, Jerome. The review will be up by this weekend. – Bjorn]

  325. Cooper says:

    Hey Bjorn, Thanx for all the help in answering my previous questions, I’ve recently purchased the Laney Cub 15 stack from your recommendations. I have an 2009 American Standard Strat. Black of course w/ a maple neck. I’m having the Dallen Echos Pups installed this week. I was hoping you could point me in the right direction w/ effects that best suit the Comfortably numb solo w/ my current set-up, playing @ bedroom levels. Thanx Cooper

    [Hi Cooper! Depends on what tones you want but the setup handles most pedals very well. For a versatile approach I’d go for a Rat as the main distortion and perhaps a Boss BD2 for boost and overdrive. A more authentic way to go would be a Big Muff, like the Pig Hoof or the easier to get Bass Big Muff Pi from Electro Harmonix with a Buffalo Powerbooster or ThroBak Powerboost. As for modulation, I’d go for an Electric Mistress like the Mooer ElecLady or a chorus, like the MXR Analog Chorus. Any delay would do but check out the excellent TC Electronics Flashback. Hope this helps! – Bjorn]

  326. Keith says:

    So Bjorn, is the 1979 album they refer to on the Skreddy sites P-19 advertisement The Wall? Is it a Ram’s Head cloned to sound like DGs #1? I don’t keep up with much of the pre-reviewed stuff, unless it’s from a tried, and true builder I have experience, or some kind of relationship with. Just curious, it does have the Animals font, which Stu fooled around with before settling on the V2, in the Pi font.
    Peace my friend, and to all of you, Keith

    [I’ll cover all of this in the upcoming review but yes, the album is The Wall. The pedal is not meant to be a replica or clone of the #1 but rather the tone you hear on the album, which is quite different to just hearing the pedal through a Hiwatt. – Bjorn]

  327. Eric Nyberg says:

    Hey Bjorn what are your impressions of the Skreddy p19 so far?

    [Love it! I’ll have a review up but probably not until early January… – Bjorn]

  328. pranit24 says:


    I recently ordered a SSL 5 pup and a BYOC Large beaver(Ram’s head specs) to get started with the tone quest. I am wondering if the big muff would work properly with my amp. The amp I am using is VOX VT20+ which is supposed to be a hybrid modelling amp. It is not a full tube amp. I am not sure how it will respond to the Large beaver. Do you have any idea as to what needs to be done to get the best out of it?

    [Never tried the amp my self so I can’t really comment on that. On a general note, Big Muffs and vintage style fuzz pedals can often sound a bit too aggressive and bright on solid state amps and smaller setups. They were initially designed for loud tube amps and that should be taken into consideration when buying one. If you have problems with then try setting your amp as neutral as possible and use a clean booster, like a Boss BD2 with the Muff to smooth out some of the sometimes harsh overtones. See this feature for more tips. – Bjorn]

  329. Julius says:

    Hi Bjorn!
    I wanted to ask you about overdrives: do you usually use them alone or with a clean boost in front or after them. Thanks!! :)

    [I use them alone. That is, if it’s set up for overdrive with a fair amount of gain. Still, there’s no reason why you can’t blend in a booster for more tone and character or for more gain for solos etc. – Bjorn]

  330. Brian S says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    Just wanted to let you know that Maxon is coming out with 7 new fuzz pedals, one being the FEA10 Fuzz Elements – Earth, which is supposed to mimic a Ram’s Head. It sounds rather close the Triangle as demoed by Godlyke. They come out next week as shown on the Maxon website.

    Thanks again for being the great player and resource that you are,


    [Thanks for the tip, Brian! I’ll check it out :) – Bjorn]

  331. Roger Sartori says:

    Bjorn, can you name all the effects David used to get that marvelous tone on “on the turning away” from Delicate tour? Was that sound coming only from the Ram’s Head or was it superboosted with the Boss MZ?? Thanks for that wonderful site as always!

    [He did a lot of changes throughout that tour so it’s hard to tell but from what I can hear from listening to Delicate I would assume he’s using the ram’s head Muff, possibly boosted by either the TC booster or the Mesa Boogie head (although I think this was used with the HM2 exclusively) with Boss CE2 and delay. The 1987-90 tour isn’t as well documented as the Division Bell tour and with all the changes I can’t give you straight up answer. – Bjorn]

  332. didi says:

    Hello Bjorn,

    Great website, thank you so much for sharing all this info with us! Your archive is similar to gilmour’s tone: huge :-)

    I’m planning to purchase a large beaver to combine /w a xotic RC booster (witch should be similar to the coloursound/throbak boosters). Amp is a vox ac30cc (I know, not your favorite :-).
    How does this large beaver respond to an ac30? I’m thinking of the ram’s head version.

    Also looking forward to your upcoming delay section in the buyer’s guide!

    Again: thx again for all this work!


    [Thanks for your kind words! The RC is a clean booster, so the AC would perhaps be closer to the Colorsound/Throbak. Anyway, Muffs goes very well with the AC30. It’s a fairly bright amp so you might need to roll down the tone a bit on your Muff but try different settings and see what suits your ear :) – Bjorn]

  333. Paul says:

    Hey Bjorn,
    Great article, as always. Your choice of pedals for DG’s tone is spot-on, which is why I’m asking for your help. I own a solid state amp and a HSH guitar and I was wondering if there are any Big Muffs that I can use with my setup to achieve the Meddle – Final Cut era sound. I’d also like to buy a fuzz for other classic rock sounds, but again I’m not sure if they could work together. If you don’t think that what I ask of you is possible, are there any distortion pedals that could replace a Big Muff and a fuzz?
    Thanks :)

    [Hi Paul! Given your setup I think your best choice would either be a distortion, like a RAT, or one of the more versatile Big Muffs like the Musket or Iron Bell. Both of these will give you a classic Big Muff tone but they suit different setups than most other Muffs and they also double nicely for other genres. – Bjorn]

  334. Roger Sartori says:

    There’s this guy in Brazil who makes very nice copies of boutique pedals. Any pedal you want for a very reasonable price, less than USD100 each. I have a few and I like them a lot. I wish you could test some of them, Bjorn. There are all Big Muff models: civil war, green russian, ram’s head… MXR Dynacomp, MXR Phaser 45 and 90, Univibe, OCD, Coloursound and others. Very well built and they sound amazing to me. I like my ram’s head as much as the Top Tone DG-1. “Andy Effect” is his brand. This is my tip for all brazilian guys who appreciate your website.

    [Thanks for the tip! I’ll check it out. – Bjorn]

  335. Keith says:

    Hey Bjorn, and others, There’s a new Muff on the horizon, and feel I can now disclose some info. My friend Will, contacted reverse engineering, and all around pedal guru Stuart Castledine,( The genius behind the 100% correct non master volume CSPB, availible only from Macari’s.), about doing his best to recreate the famous ’73 #1 Ram’s Head owned by DG. He took the job in hand, and is making 20 of them. As Bjorn pointed out to me, no ond really knows what mods were done to the #1, so reverse engineering is technically impossible, but Stuart has some Magic, and a HUGE MUFF, a big muff with every concieveable resistor, transistor, cap, and combination of each circuit available at the flip of numerous switches. So, listening to Animals, and everything the pedal was known to be used on, he’s doing it by ear. And at a price he quoted me, £159, it’s not overly expensive for what you will get. The pedals aren’t ready, but when he’s close, I’ll make sure to let everyone know. He is struggling for the perfect name, a few of which I suggested, and one in particular I hope he goes with. I have seen the mock up, with the font he’s using, and looks wise, you’ll love tbe vintage look,( You can Thank Will Biwden for the idea, the colors, and design!), but I am receiving his drop in 66-67 Italian Thomas organ, Vox drop in kit, that he added a reversing switch for instant Seagull, and a output resistor to make it friendly with being in front of a FuzzFace. The great thing is, these fuzz friendly mods ruin the seagull effect, so he made it so the fuzz friendly circuit cuts out, when you toggle the reverse switch! Why didn’t anyone think of this before. He actually winds his own Halo inductors, and ICAR style pots, for absolute authenticity to the most sought after wah ever made! I’m betting his Muff will be as close as you’ll ever get to David’s #1 ’73 Ram’s Head.
    Peace, Uncle Ebb

  336. Per Tanderup says:

    Hey You …
    I built a BYOC large beaver partly because of your favorable reviews. You have also stated that tubescreamers are unsuitable for boosting your Muff type distortion. I think there is one exception to that. I built a BYOC OD2 which is basically a hot rodded tubescreamer and went for the MosFet version (should take it into Fulltone territory – I’m told) and guess what ? The boost section sounds awesome after the large beaver muff. Hope you find this interesting – try it out

    [Thanks for the tip! – Bjorn]

  337. Marco Piola says:

    Hi there.
    The review is awesome, really appreciated :-)
    I have one question for you.
    What do you think about the italian handmade pedals Custom Muff and Natural Drive mkII, both made by CostaLab?
    Thank you very much in advance!!!


    [Love them! Check out my review of the Custom Muff here and the Natural Drive here. – Bjorn]

  338. Massimiliano says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    this would be the signal chain (I am simplyfing because the rig as a whole includes loopers, midi control, etc):

    Strats (PU vary, from vintagey ’50 to Seymour Duncan QPs, but generally lower output SC) into the pedal I am chasing (and I could add a booster like a Jauernig Luxury Drive after it as you suggest), and from there into a THD Bivalve 30 (pure class A with ECC83s in the pre and KT88s in the power section, a lot of headroom and LOUD for 30 watts), into a Palmer PDI-03 for power soak and speaker sim, and at that point into a Strymon Timeline for delay and a Rocktron Intellifex XL for anything else (chorus, reverb, pitch shift, etc), into recording unit or snake for PA. No cabs in this config, so can run the amp at the volume I like (usually around 1-3PM, without master volume) to cook the power tubes and still put the delay at the very end of the chain as if it was an insert on the mixing desk.


    [Sorry for my late reply, Massimiliano. You got a lot of power and gain from your amps but the pedal you describe is best used on a clean amp or slightly overdriven one, I think… as most high gain pedals do. The Musket is a very versatile Big Muff. So is the Iron Bell from Mojo Hand. Still, they are Big Muffs and I’m not sure you want that for the genres you want to cover. Sounds to me that you want and need something versatile like a Boss DS1 (Analogman), RAT or Dark Matter. You should also check out the Fulltone OCD. – Bjorn]

  339. Massimiliano says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    I have a question on big muffs: I play hard rock, somewhere between Ritchie Blackmore and Michael Schenker (well, in the intentions…) in terms of style and sound. Now, in my pedalboard I would like to add a pedal that covers a specific aspect: high-gain, smooth lead tone with lots of sustain. Think of the most recent Blackmore (see the second part of, or However, he achieves it by mixing the overdriven sound with a synth patch for brass, which is too complex and expensive for me to reproduce. Schenker also has these smooth tones, and Gilmour (or Eric Johnson) as well. They each get there from a different angle.
    The question is this: I have been listening to your demo of the Musket, which I adore. At the same time, all other demos on the internet for that pedal focus on that grungy/fuzzy strumming that I am really very far away from, so wanted to ask your opinion whether I would be better off with one of the muffs (and which one – is the Musket the best option?) or if I should consider something else, like for example the Golden Cello. As you have tried a lot more of these pedals than I have, your opinion would be really appreciated.


    [Hi Massimiliano! Achieving specific tones depends equally on your amp and guitar. It’s the combination that produce the tone. Not the pedal alone. Please let me know what amp and guitar/pickups you have and I’ll try to help :) – Bjorn]

  340. Scott says:

    Dear Bjorn,

    Thanks for all ur amazing contributions! Really enjoy reading ur reviews!

    Am thinking on getting the new Mojo Hand BMP-1 or the Pompeii pedal, wondering if you have tried it yet and would love to hear your review on them before i decide to get them or not.

    I cant decide on which Russian Green Muff clone i should get. There’s the Wren & Cuff Tall font Russian, Stomp under Foot green Russian, Arc Effect big green pi, JAM red muck and the Mojo Hand BMP-1.

    Could you give me some advice on them? Thanks in advance Bjorn! =)

    [Thanks for your kind words, Scott! Hard to pick a favourite but I think either the WC Box of War or the BMP-1. – Bjorn]

  341. Matteo says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    you should really check out the “Caprid”, a Ram’s Head clone by Wren and Cuff, and maybe consider it for a review! Personally I find it accurate in replicating those David classic tones from 77-83



    [Yep, need to check out that one. – Bjorn]

  342. Gabe says:

    Hey Bjorn, I have a question, the last few times Gilmour has performed C Numb live, the solos are listed as p-1, which I characterize as very squished, not as boomy, and overall a very tight muff sound, and I love it. Now, you said its off a ram’s head clone, which the Pig’s Hoof is as well. My question is, which of the clones is going to get me closest to that C Numb live sound from Gdasnk and his appearance with Roger at O2? It seems to be very different from the Muff sound of anything on the Wall album. Thanks!

    [Sorry for my late reply. You have to remember that an album version is often not a good or honest reference for the actual sound because the result is created by different mics, mic placement, the actual guitar and amp and all kinds of studio trickery. It doesn’t compare to a live setup… even when it’s recorded like Gdansk. Apparently, David used the Muff the P1 was based on, for the recording of Wall and Comf Numb so there should be that big of a difference to the actual sound. My best tip on getting as close as possible, given that you have about the same rig, is either the Pig Hoof or the Buffalo Ram’s Head. – Bjorn]

  343. Matt says:


    congratulations on an exellent site! As devoted Gilmour fan and disciple to his sound I was striving for some BUDGET alternatives for reaching this goal. And my search was of course influenced by your reviews.

    I compared the following muffs/clones myself now (and this might be useful for some of the readers as well):
    – Little Big Muff
    – Bass Big Muff
    – Mooer Triangle Buff

    Setup was my stock 1969 Strat, a Boss BD2 as Booster behind the Muffs and a Mooer ElecLady into a Fender Pro Junior (sound a little raunchier and more british than my Deluxe Reverb and takes pedals pretty well due to EL84s and a 10″ speaker). Testing was done at more than bedroom level.
    NOTE: The volume setting on the Muff that “boosts” the BD2 will have a HUGE!!! impact on the overall sound. Higher volume setting on the muff will result in a fatter sound, even if you keep the overall level low with the BD2!

    Little Big Muff:
    Ok, let’s put this straight: If you want Gilmour – forget about it! This Muff is the cheapest of the three and sounds the least like you would wish. The sound is always either muffled or too bright, lacks mids. The pedal has a high level of compression and kills dynamics as you play which in fact bothers me most. The BD2 couldn’t help here. The Little Big Muff is more a “modern style” muff (as is the NYC Big Muff Reissue) but has no real reassemblance to Gilmour tone.

    Bass Big Muff:
    This Muff sounds WAY better than the Little Big Muff. The sound is less compressed, leaving space for dynamics. The characteristic thing about this pedal is its pronounced midrange. It will give you authentic PULSE tones, BUT ONLY combined with the BD2 that adds some sparkle, gain and clears up the sound. I didn’t like it too much as a stand alone pedal. In combination with the DB2 you get instant “Sorrow” sound from the PULSE. It sings, it has a lot of sustain when boosted and the midrange will let it cut through the mix. Without the DB2 it sounds a little dull and doesn’t have so much sustain as you would expect. The Bass Boost is a great feature to warm up your sound. I guess I’ll keep it for the PULSE tone.

    Mooer Triangle Buff:
    Out of the three this is just a little pricier (79€) compared to the Bass Big Muff (66 €) and the Little Big Muff (52 €). I was really surprised that it sound so different. It sound way more transparent than the EHX-models, has freqency-wise a little more of everything, more gain and sounds the most balanced. It sounds fatter than Bass Big Muff and the most authentic sound (NOTE: I’ve never compared an original Triangle Muff). It’s by far the best stand alone pedal, nailing Wall pretty much. Huge sound in a tiny pedal! It is very dynamic, the best tones with settings sustain at 70% and tone around 50% (it sounds darker than a ram’s head). Again, the volume knob has a huge impact on the sound. The more volume, the fatter it gets. The only drawback: it didn’t match the BD2 as well as the Bass Big Muff did. The sound didn’t change too much and I have made the experience that octave tones (like the “Sorrow” intro) tend to get a little muddy with the DB2. But I guess this will be ok with a little more trying and tweaking. Nevertheless, the Mooer by far outruns the EHX models. This is definately a keeper!

    A little comment on the ElecLady:
    It really gets close to the Electric Mistress, though it sounds thinner. And it tends to suck some of the sustain when put behind the muff. Favorite settings here (o’clock): color 8:30, rate: 2:30, range: off, mode normal. Nice pedal for the money.

    AGAIN: I was looking for “cheap” BUDGET solutions. Of course, there are better pedals available, but maybe hard to get here in Europe. Anyway, I have orderer a Pig Hoof last week. Guys, Jan is really nice and fast with his answers, but the waiting list for orders is about 12 months long. Mine will be delivered in June 2014…

    Maybe this helps some of you guys to get “your” sound at a reaonable price. I’m looking forward to repeat this review with my VOX AC15 and Deluxe Reverb.

    [Hi Matt! Thanks a lot for the review! Great stuff! The three pedals are indeed very different from each other covering different eras in the Muff history. Personally I think the Bass Muff is the best and most authentic sounding of the three, nailing that early 90s Sovtek tone pretty well. The Mooer is OK but I think there are better triangle clones out there like the Large Beaver. As you also point out, it all depends on the setup you use the pedals with. Thanks! – Bjorn]

  344. Andrew says:


    You are talking to someone who has essentially made a business of hot rodding MIK Epis in a big way. That said, I have a 1978 Gibson ES335 TD though as well as a really nice Limited Edition MIK Dot. The latter has Fralins and the former a locally handwould PAF (the Gibson Tarbacks were in my view horrible. I kept the pots and electronics though, installed a Bigsby). The 335 feels and smells quite like a old style Gibson. It’s very nice to play, due to the unique construction of the fretboard (classic Gibson). There is a huge difference in feel, smell etc. between that and my Dot. The Dot seems a little blockier (a bit of a baseball style neck, fairly fat) and, well, cheaper. But the sound? The Dot is absolutely killer, having that vintage sound with the amazing Fralins. There are certainly tradeoffs in buying MIK Epis. Even the amazing ones are not quite like Gibsons in many ways. They are fantastic though, nonetheless. Hope this helps!

  345. Brad says:


    I went ahead and bought the Catalinbread Manx Loaghton on the strength of what I heard in the Brett Kingman clip. Here are my impressions so far…

    Brett’s video makes the pedal sound very high gain. However, he does have the sustain maxed. Also, I suspect he has relatively hot single coils in that strat. With my CS69 set, I can’t get quite the level of saturation he has in the video on the bridge pickup, but just the right amount! I basically max the gain for a song like “Young Lust” and it’s spot on. roll back to about 2-3 oclock for something like the “Mother” solo. So players with the SD SSL-5 in the bridge might find themselves rolling back the sustain knob more if they want to get a little more “authentic” bite and less compression/gain, but there’s no doubt the sustain knob can accomodate less gainy tones, too.

    There is PLENTY of volume in the pedal, so the level knob can really help push those tubes and get the muff into the range where it really sings. Also sounds decent at lower levels.

    Roll back the volume knob, and you get really nice rich OD tones. I found it perfect for playing “Time” where I could roll back the volume for the rhythm, then turn it up and step on the delay for the solo.

    In scientific terms, this thing sounds f*ing amazing! I have barely scratched the surface of what this baxandall tone stack can do. I have to admit, when I put it on the “Triangle” settings in the manual, it sounded harsh to me, more trebly, and more muddy. However, I’ve never had a triangle, and not really sure what I should be listening for, and perhaps this setting would sound great in a full band mix. However, dialling in the “Rams Head” settings in the manual is where I’ve spent most of my time, and the pedal is just glorious sounding.

    Now, a little context. The only muff I’ve ever owned, before now, is my bubble font sovtek green russian. Great pedal. However, I always wondered what I was missing not trying out a rams head. Comparing the two, it’s remarkable how different and yet how similar these different circuits can be. For “The Wall” tones, it’s clear the rams head is just IT. The notes have a thick, yet hollow sound, which sounds like a contradiction. I love it. Whereas the great russian sounds just great almost wherever you set the knobs, the RH circuit is a little more finicky in how you dial it in, but the sound is edgier, and more interesting.

    Another observation — the Green Russian has amazing string clarity and a tight bottom, so when you play something like the intro to “Cherub Rock” by Smashing Pumpkins, it sounds great. When I try to play that intro where I have the manx set for my DG lead tone, things get muddy. However, I’m sure one could dial in a smoother setting for that kind of application with the versatility of the EQ.

    Sorry this was so long! There were not a lot of lower gain clips of this pedal on the interwebs, so I wanted to report back to those who might be considering the Manx for Rams Head Gilmour tones…do it without hesitation!


    [Thanks a lot for the review, Brad! I need to check out this pedal :) – Bjorn]

  346. Keith says:

    I have a question for Andrew from the previous post. I’m a close friend of Lindy Fralin, and lost my ’71 ES 335 TD a few years back, and have often thought of getting an Epi dot, and replacing the tuners, all the pots, and switch, and wiring, and installing Fralin “Real PAFs”. How does the guitar play and sound with the Fralins? I miss my 335, but not willing to spend 3 grand on anything Gibson builds these days! Your opinion would be appreciated.
    Peace, Love, and Gilmourish, THE POSTECUTIONER

  347. Andrew says:

    What would you say the best Muff or Muff Clone is when using PAF type pickups? I have Lindy Fralins (MIK Epi Dot), Dimarzio 36 Anniversary (MIK Epi Goldtop LP), Sheptone AB Customs (MICz, Epi LP), Reilander Reverands (’78 Gibson ES 335), Reilander Mudbuckers (MIM Strat), Wolfetones (MIK LP) and Duncan Antiquitys (???). I also have some P90 equipped guitars and finally a MIM Tele with a classic style Jerry Donahue and one guitar (only one!, MIM Strat) with Texas Special style single coil strat pickups. I’m quite a ways from the classic Gilmour sound, I admit, although he did use P90s to amazing effect on some songs. At this point I’m leaning toward the Large Beaver or maybe the Big Muff Pi with Tone Wicker.
    Amps – I have two right now: 1) a 2008 reissue Vox AC30 and 2) a boutique rebuilt to 59 specs., point to point Fender Bassman. I’ve hot-rodded each with Weber speakers (celestion versions and Jensen styles respectively).
    I really don’t need to have an exact copy of Gilmour. I’d probably prefer to have my own sound. So I’m thinking I’ll grab a reissue Pi Wicker for $60.00 CAD and experiment.
    I have a great Crowther Hotcake pedal that I use now, but I’ve always admired the Gilmour sound.

    [The thing with humbuckers and Muff is that you often end up with something closer to Sabbath than Gilmour. The Muff has a lot of gain, which can be hard to tame with humbuckers. Anyway, I prefer the triangle model. It works especially well with PAFs and P90s due to it’s lower gain and slight mid range boost. The Wicker has more gain but the additional EQ/tone switch might make it easier to match it with buckers. – Bjorn]

  348. Keith says:

    Hey Bjorn, I seem to be missing a couple of posts. I had posted right after Cillian in guitars, a greeting, with some talk about finishing my board, but can’t find it. I’m sure it was there, or at the end of fuzz, as there seem to be two missing. No Big deal, but I would like to see them. Is there a way for me to pull up my posts from the last two weeks?
    Thanks buddy, K~

    [Hi Keith! I posted a note on Facebook yesterday… I had some issues with posts from the 24th and 25th this month being marked as spam when I tried to approve them. Seems have been a bug but my hosts didn’t manage to fix it so the posts are deleted. I’m very sorry. – Bjorn]

  349. Michael says:

    Have you ever tried one of the GGG Big Muff clones? I was going to buy a Ram’s head from them, but I can’t find much about it, so I also have my eye on the BYOC one.

    [Nope. Haven’t seen much reviews either… – Bjorn]

  350. Lasse says:

    Hi Bjorn

    I really enjoy reading the articles on your site, and it has helped me a lot. I am an absolute beginner when it comes to guitar playing, and I could use a bit of advice on the settings of my (very limited) gear…

    My Strat is a 70’s player MIM with Texas Custom pickups, and I am only running it through a Bass Big Muff and nothing else, that is the only pedal I own right now (I’m new, and on a budget!)… My amplifier is nothing to write home about either. It is a very affordable transistor amp (Roland Cube 20), but I’m looking to upgrade it to a Fender Blues Junior once I can afford it.

    I could use some advice on how to get as close as possible to Delecate’ish sound, with the limited gear that I have right now. I have tried some different settings on the Muff, but I can’t seem to get anywhere near the sound I want (I really have no idea what I’m doing when I’m turning the knobs TBH :-)… If you could suggest some settings, I would very much appreciate it. Like tone/volume on the Strat, and which pickup to use? I use to play through the neck pickup, but I don’t know if thats the one to go for? Also settings on the Muff and EQ on the Amp maybe. I’m not playing too loud btw., because my neighbors don’t seem to appreciate my Comfortably Numb solo jam as much as I do :D.

    Thanks for this awesome site and I hope you can give me some advice.

    [Hi Lasse. Obviously, getting close to certain tones would require a bit more effects but the important thing is to get the most out of your guitar and amp. With that you should be able to set up a great basis for your Muff and future purchases. It’s hard not to go in detail so please read through these features and let me know if you need more help. See this for some amp set up tips and this one for Big Muff tone tips. I also recommend checking out the Tone feature for some general tone tips. – Bjorn]

  351. Brad says:


    Thanks for your answer about the Manx Laughton. It definitely sounds high gain, but I did notice on Brett’s Comf. Numb clip he has the gain on the pedal maxed. I would love for you to be able to review this one, as it seems possible that it could cover a lot of Gilmour ground with the Baxandall Tone control. I downloaded the manual and they have setting suggestions for both triangle and ram’s head muffs. Maybe they’d let you review that and the Echorec together?


    [I’ll check it out :) – Bjorn]

  352. DonC says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    I wanted to give a quick shout out to Scott over at Axe and You Shall Receive. I spoke to him about a BYOC Rams Head Large Beaver and he could not be a better merchant to deal with. It cost me a bit more to have the Beaver shipped from Canada, but it’s worth it. If anyone needs a BYOC of any type, Axe and You Shall Receive is the place to go in my opinion.

    With the Large Beaver, the Iron Bell, and the Rook as my core pedals, I am getting TONS of great tones. Lot’s of David-type tones, of course – but the flexibility of my setup is helping me find my own as well. Cheers, and keep up the great work and rock on!


    [Well said, Don! BOYC and Scott at AAYSR are great guys offering excellent customer service. – Bjorn]

  353. Brad W says:


    Plans to review the Catalinbread Manx Laughton? Above you surmised from clips that it sounded based on a sovtek, but it is meant to be more of a rams head. In any case, it has a baxandall eq that is supposed to give a lot of tonal variety.

    I have a green russian sovtek, and want a pedal friendly rams clone but don’t want to wait 9 months for a pig hoof. I’m really leaning towards the Catalinbread, but most demos use it for high gain sludgy stuff…

    thoughts on this clip, (about 6:03 in)?


    [Ok, thanks for the info Brad. I can hear from Brett’s clip that it definitely has that ram’s head quality. I haven’t tried it so I can’t really comment on it but judging buy the clips alone, it sounds like it has a bit too much gain for my taste, which I don’t really think suits a ram’s head. I might be mistaken though. – Bjorn]

  354. DonC says:

    Great write up Bjorn. Based on your reviews, I picked up an Iron Bell and I could not be happier with it! Now, I am looking too add another muff or fuzz to expand my tonal possibilities even further. I have my eye on the BYOC Large Beaver, Musket, or ED Pig Hoof. Which would have the least amount of tonal overlap with the Iron Bell? Or is there another you may recommend? I play Gilmour from mostly DSoM forward as well as Texas blues and some hard rock. Any thoughts?

    [The Musket is somewhat similar to the Iron Bell so I’d go for either the LB or Pig Hoof. Personally I swear by the Pig Hoof on my board. – Bjorn]

  355. gearhead64 says:

    Have you ever tested the moose pie rams head pedal? if so how did it fair?

    [Nope. – Bjorn]

  356. Clark says:

    Hey bjorn i have been reading about gilmour’s muffs and seeing what modifications were made to them. Do you know if any of the muffs like the p-1, p-2 or the rams head were modded to add more mids? Thanks, cheers.

    [Not to my knowledge no. As far as the sources goes, all of his ram’s heads and the P1 were modified and designed to sound like a ram’s head he got around 1975-76. None of these has much mid range. The P2 is stock after Cornish’ specifications and it has considerably more mid range than the typical ram’s head. More like the early Sovteks. – Bjorn]

  357. D auchterlonie says:

    Hi Bjorne and all, after much thought I have ordered a byoc large beaver, now I just have to make it, will be fun I guess. I couple of mouths ago bought an digitech ipb 10 programable pedal board, awesome, unlimited user saves and ease of use via an iPad,
    Worth the money works well with boosters. The big muff pedal on the board sound like the current issue, so not good, thanks for a great forum and I love the sound that airbag had, cheers from david

    [Thanks David! I think you’ll be very pleased with the LB :) – Bjorn]

  358. Clark says:

    Hey Bjorne have you tried or heard about basic audios tri/ram? You should do a demo and add it in to this page, when you get the time of course. From I have seen and heard it seems to be a good clone of both for 200 USD.

    [Looks very promising! I haven’t tried it though but I’ll check it out :) – Bjorn]

  359. Clark says:

    Sorry to comment again but i forgot to ask if either of the hoofs has a good wall of sound thing goin on to the tone. Thanks again.

    [See my reply below :) – Bjorn]

  360. Clark says:

    Hope your doing great.

    The Caprid is ridiculously good, its my favorite pedal. I was fortunate enough to get a original chandler tube drive used for a really good price. I am definitely going to return the box of war and get a pig hoof since i realized that is the tone i like and prefer (animals being my favorite album and gnask favorite tones, lol as you know this already from thousands of comments), and i feel and hear it cuts through the mix better than a sovtek. I was wondering which pedal you would recommend of the two pig hoofs to be boosted by the tube driver, I understand the yellow label has less lower end and gain so that generally will make it easier to tame, and does either have a more boosted mid range and presence? Thanks best wishes, cheers.

    [The yellow is definitely the best to boost. It is tweaked for that in mind with less gain and lower end. Alone it might sound a bit modest.Especially compared to the red label or Caprid but with a booster I think it surpasses both. It blends well with the booster and gets nicely compressed and smooth. The Tube Driver can be a bit tricky for boost but if it works out with the Caprid then it will work nicely with the yellow Hoof as well. – Bjorn]

  361. Dave Yackaboskie says: