Buyer’s Gear Guide – Big Muff

Buyer's Gear Guide Big Muff

Everyone seems to offer their version of the Big Muff these days. Some close to the original models. Others with new features and variations. It can be a real challenge to choose the right model for your setup. In this feature we’ll look at a handful of models and how to incorporate these in your rig, with David Gilmour’s tones in mind.

At the time when David Gilmour joined Pink Floyd, in early 1968, guitarists had only a few pedals to choose from. Like Hendrix, David would also employ the Dallas Arbiter Fuzz Face – a germanium transistor model between 1968-1970 and later, from early 1971, the silicon transistor model. He got his first Big Muff around 1975. The pedal was first used on the recording of Animals and subsequently on evey Pink Floyd and solo album since then. More about David Gilmour’s Big Muffs here.

Fuzz or Big Muff?

Big Muffs are often referred to as fuzz and although that describes the tone, a fuzz and Big Muff are soundwise and technically two different effects. While fuzz pedals are based on a very basic two-transistor circuit producing a almost crude and aggressive tone, the Big Muff has a more complex cuircuit and a much more balanced tone with rich harmonics and sustain. It is perhaps more accurate to place the Big Muff in a category between fuzz and the more modern distortion.

In terms of recreating David’s tones, you’ll be able to cover all the fuzz tones with a Big Muff – at least the bright and aggressive silicon tones from Obscured by Clouds, Live at Pompeii and Dark Side of the Moon. However, a Big Muff will be hard to tame properly for those warm overdrive tones of the germanium fuzz David used for the early post Syd era up to Meddle.

I don’t recommend using fuzz to replicate the Big Muff tones. Although a silicon Muff can do a fairly good Animals tone, neither the germanium nor the silicon works that well for Wall and later tones. A good tip is to feature at least one fuzz and one Big Muff on your pedal board for a versatile setup.

Big Muff on the pedal board

I recommend placing Big Muffs first in the line of gain pedals (after filters and compression). This will allow the pedal to dominate the chain and tone when you combine it with boosters or overdrives.

Most Big Muffs will sound brighter and perhaps a tad harsh when placed next to a buffer or buffered pedal. A buffer will help drive the signal through long cables and multiple pedals and allow the guitar to “see” the amp. This means the brighter tone is actually the true tone of your pickups but I think Muffs sound better and more balanced with a bit of that top end roll off caused my non buffered pedals. It’s a matter of taste but my tip is to always place the Muff between two true bypass pedals.

Vintage Big Muffs VS modern clones

Before you start searching Ebay for a vintage Big Muff you should keep in mind that unless you are very aware of what you are about do to, you can end up getting very disappointed. In most cases, you’re better off with a clone. Back in the early 70s Electro Harmonix were quite inconsistent with their designs and components. Add forty years and heavy abuse from former owners and it’s quite obvious that these pedals won’t sound as they once did.

It’s also a well known fact among collectors that there’s very little difference between the so called “triangle” and “ram’s head” models other than the chassis (and placement of the knobs). Aged parts and the inconsistency between circuits means that two seemingly identical pedals will sound quite different to each other and you might very well end up with a “ram’s head” that sounds like a “triangle” or vice versa.

Visit The Big Muff Pi Page for all there is to know about the classic Big Muff models.

All pedals listed below were tested on typical Gilmour inspired setups, including Stratocasters and Hiwatt and Fender amps. Pleae note that the pedals may sound and behave differently on your setup. All scores are purely subjective.

Triangle, Ram’s Head and US reissues

The triangle and ram’s head era stretches from the late 60s to mid 70s. These are known by their bright and aggressive tone, very little mid range, fat lower end and singing sustain. Ideal for combining with boosters and overdrives but some pedals might be a bit of a challenge on smaller amps and setups. The mid era OP-amps and current US reissues has a slightly darker tone, more gain and are perhaps not that suited for Gilmour’s tones, although some of the new EHX variations and spin-offs sports new features for a more versatile tone.

Electro Harmonix “triangle” Big Muff 1970
The first Big Muff model is considered by many to be the most musical of all. The pedal has a smooth and warm tone with rich sustain, fat lower end and a crisp attack. Its mild gain makes it easy to tame and ideal in a combination with a booster/overdrive. The “triangle” covers all of David’s Muff tones but you might want to add a hint of mid range for authentic PULSE tones.
Noise level: N/A
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 8/10
Gilmour tones: DG78/Wall/Final Cut/Gdansk

Gilmourish.com score: 8/10

Electro Harmonix “ram’s head” Big Muff 1973
Compared to the average “triangle” the “ram’s head” has an overall more aggressive tone with more gain and brighter top and that classic mids scoop. The pedal stands well on its own but a transparent booster/overdrive adds to its already monstrous tone. The “ram’s head” is ideal for Animals and Wall but a hint of mid range boost makes it incredibly versatile for any era. Personally I prefer the later “violet ram’s head” for a bit more gain.
Noise level: N/A
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 8/10
Gilmour tones: Animals/DG78/Wall/Final Cut/Gdansk

Gilmourish.com score: 8/10

Electro Harmonix Big Muff (transistor and op-amp) 1976
This late 70s model was produced both as a transistor and op-amp version. The transistor version is very similar to the “ram’s head” with a bit more gain while the op-amp pedals has a distinctly bigger character typical of the early 90s grunge bands. In essence both are perhaps best described as a mix between the “ram’s head” and the early 90s Sovtek models with an aggressive, almost boomy tone that’s a bit hard to tame.
Noise level: N/A
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 4/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 5/10
Gilmour tones: Wall/Delicate/PULSE

Gilmourish.com score: 5/10

Electro Harmonix Pi US 2000 reissue
The current US model is somewhat similar to the late 70s red/black Muff although it has little resemblance of the classic Big Muff tones. It sounds boomy, with a saturated gain character and a rather choked sustain. Not the best choice for replicating David’s tones but rather for more modern sounding idie and stoner. It does stand well on its own but can be hard to tame with a booster.
Noise level: 7/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 2/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 2/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE

Gilmourish.com score: 2/10

Electro Harmonix Little Big Muff Pi
The current XO version is not to be mistaken for the 70s model with the same name. The Little Big Muff Nano is more or less identical to the US reissue although with a bit more presence and sustain, which makes the whole difference. A bonus is the small pedal board friendly foot print. It stands well on its own but works nicely in combo with a booster/overdrive as well.
Noise level: 7/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 7/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 7/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE

Gilmourish.com score: 5/10

Electro Harmonix Big Muff Pi with Tone Wicker
This one is very similar to the Little Big Muff featuring an additional tone toggle switch based on the more popular mods on the boutique market. The “wicker” mode adds more presence sustain and the tone switch allows the tone stage to be bypassed for an even more scooped mids tone and fatter gain. Doesn’t quite stand up to similar boutique models but definitely worth a try.
Noise level: 7/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 7/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 8/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk

Gilmourish.com score: 6/10

Pete Cornish P-1
The P1 is based on a “ram’s head” circuit with the characteristic bright crisp top, fat lows and tons of sustain. It stands perhaps best on its own but a transparent booster adds a bit more warmth and an overall smother tone. Personally, I find the pedal a bit too pristine and lacking some of that classic vintage Muff mojo. However, the P1 is preferred by Gilmour and obviously nails those classic Animals and Wall tones. A hint of mid range boost takes care of the Delicate and PULSE tones as well.
Noise level: 10/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 8/10
Gilmour tones: Animals/DG78/Wall/Final Cut/Gdansk

Gilmourish.com score: 8/10

BYOC Large Beaver
The Large Beaver is in my opinion one the better sounding clone of the classic Big Muffs. The current kit feature setups for both the “triangle” and “ram’s head” models as well as an additional 3-way tone switch allowing classic scooped mids, tone bypass and mid boost. Both models are very close to the originals with the same musical qualities and tone. A bonus is the true bypass switching and dead silent circuit. The “ram’s head” is perhaps preferred for David’s tones but the “triangle” easily nails most of his leads from all eras. Add a hint of mid range (or use the mid boost feature) for a Delicate/PULSE tone.
Noise level: 10/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 10/10
Gilmour tones: Animals/DG78/Wall/Final Cut/Gdansk

Gilmourish.com score: 10/10

BTMB Royal Beaver
The Royal Beaver looks overwhelming but it’s easy to operate and extremely versatile. In addition to the standard volume, gain and tone controls the pedal feature controls for three separate gain stages allowing setups for several models including “triangle” and “ram’s head”. Last a 3-way tone mode switch allows for classic mid scooped tones, tone bypass or mid boost as featured on the Large Beaver. The Royal stands well on its own but a booster brings out its full potential. It should be mentioned that although the RB allows a wide range of tones you’re basically tweaking around a typical “triangle” circuit with perhaps some limitations for the purists. See my full review of the Royal Beaver here.
Noise level: 10/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 8/10
Gilmour authentic tones: Animals/DG78/Wall/Final Cut/Gdansk

Gilmourish.com score: 8/10

Electronic Orange Pig Hoof
The Pig Hoof is a clone of the mid 70s “ram’s head” with smooth, warm gain and a typically deep mids scoop. The Hoof has an incredibly tight lower end and clear presence that makes it equally suited for both a stand-alone pedal (especially with hotter pickups) and in combo with a booster. Of all the “ram’s head” models I’ve tried this is by far the loudest but also one of the quietest. The Pig Hoof covers all of David’s tones, Animals, Wall and Island in particular and it also works incredibly well on bedroom setups. See my full review of the Pig Hoof here.
Noise level: 9/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 8/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 9/10
Gilmour authentic tones: Animals/Wall/DG78/Final Cut/Gdansk

Gilmourish.com score: 10/10

Electronic Orange Pig Hoof MkII
The Pig Hoof MkII is a milder version of the standard red label. The MkII is tweaked and adjusted for studio recording, with less gain and low end than most ram’s head models. The idea is to be able to get the classic tones without all the low frequencie rumble and nasty, uncontrollable feedback. The pedal also goes extremely well with boosters, either you want a clean volume boost or a bit more dirt for a bit of both worlds. An internal trim pot allows you to fine tune the gain stage and match it with your amp and pickups. A unique and versatile Big Muff tailored for all situations and setups. See my full review of the Pig Hoof MkII here.
Noise level: 10/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 9/10
Gilmour authentic tones: Animals/DG78/Wall/Final Cut

Gilmourish.com score: 10/10

MJM Foxey Fuzz
The Foxey Fuzz is one of the few clones of the Guild and early “triangle” era Big Muffs. Although similar to a triangle, the Foxey Fuzz is perhaps an even more aggressive violet ram’s head kind of Muff with tons of gain and lower end. You will have a hard time taming it for a bedroom setup but pair it up with a loud tube amp and you have one of the heaviest sounding Muffs on the market. Perhaps not the typical Gilmour Muff but it easily nails all those late 70s tones.
Noise level: 8/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 8/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 5/10
Gilmour tones: Animals/DG78/Wall

Gilmourish.com score: 8/10

North Effects 22/7 Violet Ram
North Effects offers a wide range of clones similar to BYOC based on simplicity and classic designs. The Violet Ram is a clone of the mid 70’s “ram’s head” that had a bit more gain and bite. This is definitely not a smooth sounding Muff but it nails those Animals tones in particular. Tonewise it’s similar to the Jam Pedals Foxey Fuzz although a bit easier to tame. A great option for a budget setup. See my full review of the 22/7 Violet Ram here.
Noise level: 8/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 5/10
Gilmour tones: Animals/DG78/Wall/Final Cut

Gilmourish.com score: 7/10

Skreddy P19
The idea behind the P19 is to capture David Gilmour’s lead tones from The Wall as you hear them on the album. The tone is unmistakably ram’s head with a saturated musical distortion but the P19 has more mids and an overall darker tone compared to most other ram’s heads. Imagine a Stratocaster into a loud Hiwatt stack and an old rusty Muff recorded with an SM57 and a bit of studio compression and limiting and you have the P19. An additional mids hump switch allows even a bit more mid range for brighter amps and bedroom setups. The pedal stands best on its own but a transparent booster or EQ will give it a bit more top end and sparkle. See my full review of the P19 here.
Noise level: 10/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 7/10
With smaller amps/bedroom levels: 10/10
Gilmour authentic tones: Animals/DG78/Wall/Final Cut

Gilmourish.Com score: 9/10

Buffalo FX Ram’s Head NOS BC239c
Finally a take on the classic ram’s head circuit that mananages to deal with some of the issues. The Buffalo RH is no doubt a ram’s head with an aggressive and saturated tone and that raspy top but this one’s also got a hint of mids and a perfectly balanced low end. It’s slightly darker than most ram’s heads but the sustain sings for ages and there are no choked or dead tones. Pair it up with a transparent booster like the Buffalo Power Booster for opening it up further and adding a bit more bite. Nails all of David’s Muff tones and fits even the most demanding bedroom setup. See my full review of the Ram’s Head NOS BC239c here.
Noise level: 9/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom levels: 10/10
Gilmour authentic tones: Animals/DG78/Wall/Final Cut

Gilmourish.Com score: 9/10

JMB Experience Classic 70s
As the name implies, this one’s based on the original Big Muff designs, with an emphasis on the ram’s head model. It’s fairly dark and with a hint of mid range, which perhaps takes it towards the typical triangle flavours, but like the ram’s head, the Classic 70s has lots of gain and a growling low end. This is an excellent all-round Muff, capable of covering both David’s 70s tones and the Sovtek era and it’s darker character makes it a great choice for bedroom setups and recording. Se my YouTube review of the Classic 70s here.
Noise level: 9/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 8/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 9/10
Gilmour tones: Animals/DG78/Wall/Final Cut/Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk

Gilmourish.Com score: 8/10

Behringer VD1 Vintage Distortion
The VD1 is very similar to the current EHX US reissue with a boomy saturated character and sometimes a choked sustain. This one is more suited for modern tones and indie rock and nothing I’d recommend for David’s tones. Adding a booster smooths out some of the harsh overtones but of all Big Muffs I’ve tried the VD1 really needs a loud tube amp to really open up.
Noise level: 7/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 5/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 2/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE

Gilmourish.com score: 2/10

Mooer Triangle Buff
As the name implies, this is a clone of the first generation Big Muff, the so called triangle model. Like the original, the Buff has a dark and warm tone, with just a hint of mids and a fat lower end. It’s not as smooth and dynamic sounding as some of the other clones, like the BYOC Large Beaver or Red Muck but it’s fully capable of producing all the classic tone and, IOM, much better than most of the current EHX models. An excellent choice for tight budgets and cramped pedal boards.
Noise level: 7/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 9/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 7/10
Gilmour authentic tones: Animals/DG78/Wall/Final Cut/Gdansk

Gilmourish.com score: 6/10

Sovtek Russian tone models

The Sovtek Big Muffs were known for their huge tone. Lots of gain, bass and mid range and the sweetest sustain imaginable. Compared to the triangle and ram’s head, the Sovteks often works best alone without a booster. Some of the new clones are modelled after the early Civil War and tall font green Russians, which are considered superior to the later Sovtek models. Other clones offer new features and variations on the classic circuit.

Sovtek “Civil War” Big Muff Pi 1990
The “civil war” model is recognized by its familiar exterior and larger than life tone. Although very similar to the late 70s red/black version the “civil war” has a boosted mid range, crisp attack and thunderous lows as well as an incredible sustain. Its mild gain makes it easy to tame in combo with a booster, although it operates very well on its own. The pedal is ideal for David’s Delicate and PULSE tones but nails pretty much everything from Animals to Gdansk.
Noise level: N/A
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 8/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 9/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk

Gilmourish.com score: 10/10

Sovtek “Green Russian” Big Muff Pi 1994
The early so called “tall font” versions of the green russian is identical to the “civil war” while the later more common “bubble font” has a bit more gain and an overall nastier sound. The pedal is easy to tame in combo with a booster although it operates very well on its own. It’s ideal for David’s Delicate and PULSE tones but nails pretty much everything from Animals to Gdansk.
Noise level: N/A
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 8/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 9/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk

Gilmourish.com score: 10/10

Sovtek “Black Russian” Big Muff Pi 1998
Due to inconsistent circuits and vague transition periods the early big box Black Russian is essentially identical to the “bubble font” Green Russian with same mid rangy growling gain. The later slightly smaller box version however is closer to the US reissue and not that suited for replicating David’s tones.
Noise level: N/A
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 8/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 7/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk

Gilmourish.com score: 7/10

Note: As the early triangle and ram’s head Big Muff the Civil War, Green Russian and early Black Russian are hard to tell apart due to inconsistencies in the production and often overlapping designs and component values. See The Big Muff Pi Page for more details on each version.

Electro Harmonix Bass Big Muff Pi
This Big Muff from the current EHX line is surprisingly close to the old Sovtek models and the green in particular. Tons of gain, massive lows and a pronounced mid range makes it a great option for David’s Delicate and PULSE tones. A featured toggle switch allows you to switch between bass boost, classic Muff tones and an effect mix control.
Noise level: 9/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 7/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 7/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk

Gilmourish.com score: 7/10

Pete Cornish P-2
Presented by Cornish as an upgrade of the P1 the P2 has perhaps more similarities with the late 70s red/black models and the Sovteks with a boosted mid range, thunderous lower end and tons of gain. Of all the Big Muff models this one sound best alone. A bit hard to tame perhaps and personally, I find it a bit too boomy and dark.
Noise level: 7/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 3/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 7/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE

Gilmourish.com score: 5/10

Buffalo FX Patriot
Based on the Civil War Sovtek Big Muff, the Patriot has a well balanced low end, rounded top and creamy mid range. Compared to similar clones, like the Box of War, the Patriot has a more open sounding character, with a focus on the higher mids, which adds to the sweet singing sustain. The pedal is loud and has a lot of gain but the noise level is surprisingly low. This is probably as close as you’ll get to David’s PULSE lead tones. The pedal sounds huge – both on large tube stacks and bedroom setups. Highly recommended! See my full review of the Patriot here.
Noise level: 10/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 10/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/ Pulse

Gilmourish.com score: 10/10

MojoHand Colossus
Based on the early Sovtek models, the Colossus lives up to its name with a huge tone, thunderous lows and endless sustain. Like the Civil War, the Colossus has a boosted mid range that can be further sculpted with additional controls. The pedal stands well on its own but a mild, transparent booster will bring out the attack and top frequencies. An excellent choice for David’s Delicate and PULSE tones. See my full review of the Colossus here.
Noise level: 10/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 7/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 8/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk

Gilmourish.com score: 8/10

EarthQuaker Hoof Fuzz
The Hoof Fuzz is based on the early Sovteks and the green in particular. It has that familiar fat mid range, saturated gain and rich sustain but the Hoof also got a bit more presence, which makes it a great deal more versatile. An additional mid range control also allow you to sculpt the tone even further. The pedal stands well on its own but handles boosters equally well. Ideal for David’s Delicate and PULSE setups, but doubles nicely as a fuzz for the earlier tones as well – especially for those bedroom setups. See my full review of the Hoof Fuzz here.
Noise level: 8/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 8/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 10/10
Gilmour tones: Pompeii/Dark Side/Delicate/PULSE

Gilmourish.com score: 8/10

CostaLab Custom Muff
The Custom Muff is perhaps best described as a mix between the triangle and early Sovtek models. This no frills Muff features the classic three knob configuration and a tone that ranges from vintage overdrive to full blast fuzz. The Custom Fuzz works equally well as a stand alone unit or in combo with a transparent booster for a bit more presence and bite. This is one of the more versatile Big Muff models that tackles everything from Dark Side of the Moon to PULSE. See my full review of the Custom Muff here.
Noise level: 10/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 8/10
Gilmour tones: Pompeii/Dark Side/Delicate/PULSE

Gilmourish.com score: 8/10

Wren and Cuff Box of War
The Box of War is, as the name implies, a faithful recreation of the legendary Sovtek Civil War. The tone is huge, yet fairly mild with fat lower end and rich sustain. Although very close to the original, the BoW is not as open sounding and dynamic as the Patriot (Buffalo FX). The Box of War stands well on its own but you can also combine it with a mild, transparent booster for a bit more presence. Highly recommended for Gilmour’s PULSE Comfortably Numb tones and a bonus for a cool looking box!
Noise level: 10/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 9/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 9/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE

Gilmourish.com score: 9/10

Jam Pedals Red Muck
This is an unusual combination of the warm mild character of the “triangle” and the fat lower end and creamy sustain of the Sovteks. The Red Muck may appear a bit thin and flat on its own but opens up for a wide range of tones in combination with a booster. Ideal for David’s Delicate and PULSE tones and highly recommended for bedroom setups. See my full review of the Red Muck here.
Noise level: 8/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 10/10
Gilmour authentic tones: Delicate/PULSE

Gilmourish.com score: 8/10

Blackout Effectors Musket
The Musket isn’t really a clone of any particular model although is has strong similarities with the late 70s red/black Muff and the early Sovteks. The additional pre, mids and focus controls makes the pedal incredibly versatile and suitable for more genres and styles than any other Big Muff. The focus control adds more presence and sustain allowing the pedal to cut effortlessly through the mix. Its also probably the best Muff model for bedroom setups and it manages to maintain its character on even the lowest levels. The Musket covers all of David’s lead tones from all eras and stands equally well on its own and with boosters. See my full review of the Musket here.
Noise level: 9/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 10/10
Gilmour tones: Animals/Wall/Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk

Gilmourish.com score: 10/10

Top Tone Drive Gate DG-1
The DG1 is loosely based on the Pete Cornish P2 with much of the same character as the Sovtek models – fat lower end, boosted mid range, rich sustain and an overall saturated character. Like the P2, the DG1 sounds a bit boomy and it can be a bit overwhelming on some setups. The pedal stands best on its own and cover David’s Delicate and PULSE tones in particular. See my full review of the DG1 here.
Noise level: 7/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 4/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 7/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE

Gilmourish.com score: 6/10

VFE Fiery Red Horse
The Fiery Red Horse is similar to the Royal Beaver and Musket, packed with features for different tones. The pedal is based on the early “triangle” era circuit with additional controls for choosing between different clipping stages, mid range modes and voltage for adjusting the overall gain. This is an incredibly silent pedal with a classic warm and mild tone but perhaps just a bit too mild. It really needs a booster behind it to open up and to get enough gain. Still, it’s a great sounding option for a wide range of Gilmour tones.
Noise level: 10/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 10/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 5/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE

Gilmourish.com score: 6/10

MojoHand BMP-1
Part of Mojo Hand’s limited edition vintage series, the BMP-1 is a clone of the so-called tall font green Sovtek. It’s on the brighter side compared to the WnC Box of War and Buffalo FX Patriot but it has a bit more gain and a nicely balanced low end. The pedal stands best on its own but the low noise level allows a transparent booster to beef it up a bit. The BMP-1 sounds great for David’s later Floyd tones and PULSE in particular. If you’re a Sovtek fan then don’t miss out on this little gem!
Noise level: 10/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 8/10
With smaller amps/bedroom levels: 8/10
Gilmour authentic tones: Delicate/PULSE

Gilmourish.com score: 8/10

Miscellaneous

Technically, these aren’t Big Muffs but rather based on or variations of a similar circuit. Lots of new pedals in this category is popping up allowing some of that classic Big Muff flavour to shine through in a more modern and versatile package and tone.

MojoHand Iron Bell
MojoHand designed the pedal not to be a Gilmour-in-a-box but rather to capture the overall tone and being a tool for getting the tones you want from each period. You might have a hard time getting the early fuzz tones but the Iron Bell nails most of the stuff from Dark Side to present and especially the 80s and 90s tones. It has lots of gain, a fat lower end and an overall midrangy character. Tonally, it fits somewhere between a RAT and early Sovtek. Perhaps not the pedal for Muff purists but definitely one of the more versatile Muffs on the market. See my full review of the Iron Bell here.
Noise level: 8/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 5/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 9/10
Gilmour authentic tones: Animals/DG78/Wall/Final Cut/Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk

Gilmourish.com score: 8/10

Wampler Pedals Velvet Fuzz
No doubt aimed at the Gilmour fans the Velvet Fuzz is kind of a fuzz meets Muff meets Rat. It’s designed to capture the tone of a fuzz or Muff into a Marshall, which is very much what you get with a Rat or Cornish G2 but the pedal seems to fall between two chairs and doesn’t quite make it up there with other “stacked” pedals like the P19 and Iron Bell. A mini toggle switch allows two differnet modes – “tight” sounds like a very smooth Big Muff with lots of mid range and comression. Lovely sustain and nice attack for your Gdansk tones. The second mode “big” sounds too compressed and chokes up even on the cleanest amp and pickups. The Velvet Fuzz stands best alone and works best on brighter amps and smaller bedroom setups.
Noise level: 9/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 6/10
With smaller amps/bedroom levels: 8/10
Gilmour authentic tones: PULSE/Gdansk

Gilmourish.com score: 6/10

Electro Harmonix Germanium 4 Big Muff
Contrary to what its name implies this is not a Big Muff but rather a germanium fuzz with a overall much milder and warmer tone. Its two separate channels allows for either a classic germanium overdrive or a typical late 60s Fuzz Face-ish tone and you can combine the two for a result much similar to combining a fuzz with a Colorsound Powerboost. A great option for David’s 1968-71 tones but not a recommended option for classic Big Muff tones.
Noise level: 7/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: N/A
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 5/10
Gilmour tones: Saucerful/More/Atom Heart/Meddle/Pompeii

Gilmourish.com score: 6/10

Note: Electro Harmonix has a wide range of spin-off models like Metal Muff, Micro Metal Muff, Pocket Metal Muff, Muff Overdrive, English Muff’n, Double Muff and Deluxe Big Muff… did I forget someone? I wouldn’t recommend any of these for David Gilmour’s tones. In stead, check out the Tone Wicker or Bass Big Muff from the EHX catalog.

Pete Cornish G-2
The G2 isn’t really a Big Muff but rather one of Pete Cornish’s more unique designs. It has a strong reference to the germanium Fuzz Face and LM308 RAT with a creamy fat distortion, lots of sustain and mid range. The pedal is perhaps more versatile than a Big Muff, suitable for a wider range of musical genres and playing styles. The G2 stands well on its own and maintains its tone and character on even the lowest levels, making it ideal for bedroom setups.
Noise level: 7/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 8/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 10/10
Gilmour tones: Dark Side/Live 8/Gdansk

Gilmourish.com score: 8/10

TopTone Drive Gate DG-2
The DG-2 is loosely based on the Pete Cornish G2. Not really a Big Muff but closer to the classic RAT with a warm, creamy germanium tone and tons of sustain. Compared to the Cornish, the DG2 is actually noticeably quieter and even a bit smoother. An excellent choice for a versatile setup and for bedroom setups. See my full review of the DG2 here.
Noise level: 9/10
In combo with boosters/overdrives: 8/10
With smaller amps/bedroom level: 9/10
Gilmour tones: Delicate/PULSE/Gdansk

Gilmourish.com score: 9/10

Feel free to use the comments field below and share your experience, recommendations and tips!

Related features: The Big Muff tone tutorial, Classic Tone – Comfortably Numb, David Gilmour and the Big Muff.

296 comments so far

  1. zac says:

    hi bjon! i just bought a big muff pi us and a ehx nano misstress, i was wondering if there is anyway i can get anywhere near the wall tone? ive also got a randall rg40, digitech rp55 and a strat with david gilmours pickups (ssl5,50fat,cs69) Thanks

    [I'm not that familiar with the Randall amp but it should be able to produce some nice clean tones. Check out this Big Muff tone tutorial for some tips on amp and pedal settings for start and let me know if you need more help after that. - Bjorn]

  2. Ozzy@Watersish.com says:

    Thanks, Bjorn. I really enjoyed reading your article. More guides like this, please :-) Delays, maybe?

    [Thanks! I will update the other buyer's guide features in the coming weeks. - Bjorn]

  3. Jay says:

    awsome! love to see a list with all the Coloursound and Tubedriver clones, of course im just ganna build my own hopefully : P

    [I'll be using the next weeks updating the other buyer's gear guide features :) - Bjorn]

  4. Fender says:

    great guide! i’m sure this will help people find a muff they like

    [Cheers! - Bjorn]

  5. martin says:

    very nice reviews!!!
    i have a north effects violet ram. it is a bit tricky to use it on bedroom level with a smooth sound.

    my way: i roll down the tone-knob (10 o’clock) with the gain knob at 1 o’clock on the muff. next in chain there is my booster, a boss bd-2 with almost no gain (9 o’clock) but with the tone-knob high (2 o’clock). i think this works well.

    [The BD2 is an excellent boost. Thanks for sharing the tip! - Bjorn]

  6. Toni says:

    Where do you find time for such a review! Amazing job!
    Once again, thanks for so much info!
    I enjoy a red muck and, as you say, it works great on his own, but pushed up with the colorsound it sounds terrific, on the contrary, pushing it up with tube driver doesn’t work, the sound/tone goes “down” and I tried moving the tube driver both in front and after the red muck (so I push it up with the colorsound, it sounds great and… no problem! ; )
    Again: thanks Bjorn for sharing your info with all of us!

    [Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the feature :) The Tube Driver can be quite difficult but I don't have any problem with it in combo with the Red Muck on my rig. What's your TD settings? I always keep the volume at around 2:00, which provides a nice volume boost. - Bjorn]

  7. Ian says:

    This really is great information, thank you, and for the rest of this site too. Fantastic research and insight. A couple of questions: The Little Big Muff Nano, same thing as the Little Big Muff widely available today (Amazon, Guitar Center etc.)? Also, the Bass Big Muff, just to be clear your are talking about using this for guitar rather than bass, right?

    Thanks again for sharing your work.

    [The Little Pi and Little Nano is the same pedal. Bass players have been using fuzz and Big Muffs since the late 60s. The Bass Muff is more or less identical to the Sovtek circuit, which is branded as a guitar pedal, with an additional bass boost. The pedal works very well on guitar. - Bjorn]

  8. BrianMay says:

    Great guide Bjorn, as always…

    Does anyone ever tried Stomp Under Foot (SUF) Big Muff replica? What’s about them?
    I have read some great words on kit rae’s big muff page abot them, but some more review will be appreciate…

    thank you

    [Thanks! I've only tried the Big Muff '73, which I believe was a limited run of a specifically cloned circuit. It was way too aggressive and wild for my taste. Based on reviews it seems that the Civil War and Ram's Head clones are very good. - Bjorn]

  9. Jlp says:

    Hello,
    Great review! Thanks for all this informations.

    Have you ever try the Big Knob Civil Warp?

    Thank you.
    (PS: Sorry for my bad english)

    [No I haven't. Thanks for the tip! - Bjorn]

  10. Dave says:

    Hello Bjorn
    I have a North Effects triangle muff, it sounds stellar! Way more smooth and magical than the Large Beaver, but the Lareg Beaver offcourse does have the benefit of the mid-rotary switch! But pure tone wise, the North Effects wins. They use N.O.S. transistors in the triangle, I think that contributes to that!
    I also have a vintage Rams Head, that one is great as well, much more ‘huge’!
    I love your site, thanks.
    GrtDave.

    [Thanks for your input :) - Bjorn]

  11. Edgar says:

    Hello Bjorn! When I decided to buy a Big Muff, I use for reference the videos and comments that you made. I bought a while ago the BYOC Larger Beaver and I NEVER regret that purchase. Excellent pedal and the sound takes you to the clouds.

    [Agree! Cheers! - Bjorn]

  12. Daniel says:

    Hello Bjorn,

    Great review.
    I’ve just bought a Bass Big Muff on ebay and wanna know which settings are the best with a BD-2 as a Booster.

    thank you

    [Depends entirely on your guitar/pickups, the amp and its settings and how loud you play... Usually, in combo with a mild volume boost, a fairly moderate setting would do nicely... volume 50-60%, tone 30-50%, gain 40-60%. - Bjorn]

  13. BrianMay says:

    I forget the Italian CostaLab muff/cornish replica (Custom Muff, Natural Drive, Natural Drive MK II, Moon Drive and Sun Drive).
    Does anyone ever tried one of these?

  14. Alan says:

    Great article as always Bjorn! I am surprised that Absolutely Analog is gone; I really enjoy their Green Russian, I guess that just makes it all the more fun to own now that it is discontinued. What do you think?

    [Yeah... nice little pedal indeed :) - Bjorn]

  15. MXR says:

    MXR was one of the companies/effect builders that Dave partook in.

    [David used Phase 90 and Dynacomp in the 70s but I don't think he had anything to do with their designs. - Bjorn]

  16. Luca says:

    Hi Bjorn, great clips and great articles as always, I would like to thank you for the continuos help that you give us Gilmourish’s fans sharing your knowledge!

    I actually love the tone that you get from the Large Beaver in the brand new clip, it’s incredible smooth and close to the original. I never use my Byoc LB “triangle” for the wall era because I’m not able to reach this kind of smothness and character so I go with the RAT and BD2 but it’s not so close as the Muff. Could you share some settings???

    Cheers,
    Luca

    [Thanks! What's your guitar/pickups and amp? Let me know and I'll try to help. - Bjorn]

  17. Luca says:

    Strat AmSTD cs69+SSL5 bridge>byocLBtriangle4knobs>bd2keeley>laneyCUB12r
    At a very low bedroom level because my two childs are in the near room!

    I’m looking for the really smooth but aggressive tone you’ve got in the clip.
    Thanks!

    Luca

    [OK, try this:
    Large Beaver: volume slightly above unity, tone around 40%, gain 60-70%. Using a bit more gain helps on lower volumes.
    BD2: volume 60-70% depending on how much boost you want, tone around 10:00, try to find a sweetspot depending on your picking etc, gain 9-10:00 right at the very edge of breakup.
    Laney: reverb off, tone 6, volume as desired, bass 4.5, middle 4, treble 4, gain 1,5-2.
    Hope this helped. - Bjorn]

  18. Euan says:

    Bjorn- Do you use your nova drive on its own or with a BD2? Want to pull the trigger on my low volume setup on my reeves 50 but am abit confused on what gain pedals to use? Thanks

    [The ND is a two channel amp with a Tueb Screamer-ish overdrive circuit that you can blend with the distortion both before or after. Works pretty well on it's own but I prefer a more transparent boost with a BD2, Colorsound or similar. - Bjorn]

  19. Lim says:

    Another great article. The ratings is a great help and indicator for those who don’t have the opportunity to try the pedals in shop and have to rely on mail/internet purchase.

    I’d like to see same article on booster and overdrive. Keep them coming!

    [Thank you! I'll be updating the rest of the Buyer's Gear Guide as well. - Bjorn]

  20. Jason says:

    Great article. I’ll apologize in advance for all of my questions that follow. I have a NYC reissue that I’ve never been able to bond with (well, I just don’t like it). I’ve been able to get some pretty convincing tones with an older (early 90′s) RAT II, BBE green screamer, and a little delay into a tube combo. Unfortunately, this Big Muff is almost all the experience I have with them (other than playing some Sovteks in the 90′s)

    I don’t need or want to copy David’s tone exactly, but I do want to pick up another BM or clone. The Tone Wicker and Bass Big Muff scored pretty close. Which of those do you feel is better at getting close to David’s sound? I’m also Musket is also tempting to me, but there seems to be a fine line between the price of some of these clones, and getting the real deal. Also interested in how you think the Maxon D&S stacks up to these.

    I also have a BBE mindbender chorus/vibrato that I find useless for any application that requires a subtle “is this thing on” type of chorus. It seems to be way too much for any Gilmour apllication. Can you recommend a good pedal that gives just a little effect?

    You may not have an answer to this next question, but I’m also a fan of Dinosaur Jr and J Masicis, who used the BM in a completely different way. Will one of these pedals do a decent job of covering both?

    Jason

    [Big Muffs can be quite challenging on some amps but given that your amp can handle a Big Muff I would say that both the Wicker and Bass Muff sounds way better then the US reissue. They serve different purposes though. The Bass Muff is close to the early Sovteks while the Wicker has some additional tone options making it perhaps a bit more versatile. My opinion is that the Musket is a much better pedal all together so if you ask me, the little extra on the price is definitely worth it. It's equally capable of producing great tones on smaller bedroom amps and those huge grunge tones. Check out the CostaLab ChorusLab for a mild chorus with effect mix control. - Bjorn]

  21. Marc-Andre Paquette says:

    Amazing review Bjorn, really!

    Just got my hand on a bass Big Muff can’t wait to try it.

    Have you ever used a combination of a POD with analog pedals? I just bought a POD HD500 and I was thinking of using the bass Big Muff in the fx return/send instead of using the modeled version.

    I also use a CS-2 in front of the POD instead of using the modeled version of the Boss pedal. Not bad so far…

    thanks

    [Some Boss pedals seems to work OK but I've never gotten a Muff to work. - Bjorn]

  22. Pablo says:

    Bjorn – In your Skreddy Pedals review of 2007 you say of the Pink Flesh, “I recommend this as the best sounding 70’s Muff I’ve ever tried. It earned its place on my pedal board!” Yet, in this review, it only rates a 2/10. What gives? Change of taste? Has the market surpassed them? Seems hard to imagine it would decline in your judgement so severely.

    Also, some folks are selling assembled Large Beavers. Any difference between assemblers that you know of?

    Personally, I find the Pink Flesh a little too much. Am looking for something I can dial back a bit as well. Find that edge inbetween too light and too much saturation.

    [Well, I guess it was just the thing I was looking for back then but as I've explored different pedals and gotten a better sense of how I prefer a Muff+booster setup I realize that the Pink Flesh was just too wild and hard to tame. Try Axe, And You Shall Receive for your BYOC prebuilds. - Bjorn]

  23. Bryan says:

    Bjorn,
    Another terrific review and very welcome. Thank you for all your efforts. I was surprised that you did not include the Skreddy Lunar Module Deluxe in your list. Have you done a review of the Skreddy pedal? I have both the byoc large beaver and the Skreddy lm and feel they both excellent pedals. The 3 new clips are very helpful in seeing how to play the leads, much better than the printed page.
    Thanks again
    Bryan

    [The Lunar isn't really a Muff but more a clone of the silicon Fuzz Face so it wouldn't apply to this guide :) - Bjorn]

  24. Pablo says:

    Bjorn,
    Thanks for the response. (Btw, great article, as always!!) Regarding the Large Beaver, the forums are all chirping about the BYOC folks changing chips and values of components and this being better than that, etc. How old is yours? Think the most recent ones are as good as the older ones (which the forums peg as pre 2008)? Or is all this much ado about nothing?

    [Well, usually it's all about people wanting to show off. Once something is hard to get people will always claim it's better than what you can get now... for some reason. Most of the time it's just bullshit because it doesn't really matter what they think as long as you like the pedal, guitar or amp. Perhaps what they consider to be the best doesn't quite work as well the new model on your rig... In some cases though, manufacturers loose their path and make upgrades that makes lille sense... I will claim though that the Large Beaver is still a great pedal and you'll probably never hear a difference... - Bjorn]

  25. Bryan S. says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    Absolutely great review of the options out there … and very timely for me as I contemplate a new Big muff purchase as I have only the Black Russian so far and even that sounds amazing to my ears though so I am looking forward to even better sounds from a new purchase. The Royal Beaver looks an amazing pedal and worth the extra money as it appears to be 3 Big muffs in one .. but I notice you do not have it down as being suitable for early Floyd 68-71 tones .. even though you mention that with just one clipping stage activated it sounds very similar to the Germanium EH 4. So my question is … can the RB get close to that beautiful Fat Old Sun tone … or do I need to go the full Germanium fuzz pedal route.
    Cheers
    Bryan

    [I didn't meantion 1968-71 on any because David didn't use Big Muffs at that point. You might have a hard time getting a Muff to cover the Atom Heart tones because they're so typical for the germanium fuzz, which is much milder and warmer than a Muff. Depends on how authentic you want to be though and I haven't really explored that with the RB so with some tweaking around you might be able to manipulate it to sound somewhat similar. You could also go for a Tube Driver or something similar like the BD2, which is what David did on the 2006 live version. - Bjorn]

  26. Dave Raehn says:

    Hi Bjorn!

    I have gotten into building my own as of late and have found all that I have been looking for at GuitarPCB.com. They have a circuit board called the GBOM that can be built to at least 10 different variations, each with mods for customization. I chose the Ram’s Head build and have been completely satisfied with it. They also carry what they call R2G2 (revision 2 G-2) that is at least as good as Pete’s. These are available as kits from mammothelectronics.com, but all the necessary support, as well as sound clips of the circuits in action, is at guitarpcb.com. Check them out and let me know what you think!

    Dave.

    [Thanks for the tip! - Bjorn]

  27. Luca says:

    Thanks Bjorn, the settings are pretty the same I used previously but with the tone on the laney at 10 and the highs at 6. I know the volume is the key, but I got always a tone that’s too dark. Putting the tone at 13:00 on the LB will go harsh so I tried on the bd2 but the tone became always thin and results in loss of character. I have to experiment a bit because I installed the SSL-5 a few months ago and respect to the cs69 I must reconsider all the settings! If you have some general advices….

    A little out of topic, did you record the ending solo on “Never Coming Home” with the strat and cs69+ssl-5 and perhaps the OCD? The tone is terrific, really good job!

    Cheers,
    Luca

    [I think it's wise to just plug the guitar straight into the amp without any pedals. Find the settings and tone you want and then add the pedals and tweak them to match the amp. I think the CS69+SSL5 sounds great on the Laney but low volume is also much more sensible to picking techniques, string gauge and action etc so you might need to spend some time trying out different settings. NCH was recorded over a long period. Some of the stuff is from my original demo where I used a Les Paul with PAFs straight into a Line 6 POD (solo in the bridge section). All the clean rhythms and fills were recorded with a Strat loaded with EMG DG20 into a split between a Reeves Custom 50 with 4x12" cab and a Leslie 760. The last jam solo is two parts - one fairly clean with the Tube Driver into the Reeves and the latter I added the Leslie. - Bjorn]

  28. Luca says:

    Hi Bjorn, thanks again for the support! If you have some time to spend again, here my first experiment with recording the solo on my mac. The volume is fairly low, you can hear the string picking. Sorry for the guitar playing…..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYwBD9AqXes

    Cheers,
    Luca

    [Sounds pretty good :) I think some volume would have opened up the tone even more but I think this sounds pretty accurate for your setup. - Bjorn]

  29. Roberto says:

    Awesome as always! My reference when buying anything guitar related.

    Just waiting for the same system with the Fuzz for the DSOM tones.

    Thanks Bjorn.

    [Thanks! I'm upgrading all the Buyer's Gear Guides this spring... stay tuned :) - Bjorn]

  30. Nathan says:

    I have a modern US reissue Big Muff, and I’ve actually managed to get a pretty good Gilmour tone with it. You are definitely right about one thing though, it sounds like absolute shit on a small quiet amp. It has to be played very loud to sound good. I use it in combo with a Tonebone Classic Tube Drive (a very good Tube Driver/Power Boost type unit) and a Boss ME-50 mutli-effect unit with the BD-2 setting and the drive all the way down. I’m sure that you don’t have a lot of love for multi-effect units, but this one is actually very nice for simplifying your rig, as long as you don’t explore too far into the effects. Keep it basic and it does a nice job replacing some of your peripheral effects. With the BD-2 setting and the drive all the way down, I use it pretty much as an EQ, as it has both tone and bottom controls. I also save 2 presets of the volume level so I can switch back and forth from lead to rhythm volume with a single touch of the foot. Next I use the chorus, which is perfect because it is not dominating and has a mix control. It also has stereo chorus options (it has 2 outputs so it makes a good signal splitter at the end of your chain). Finally I use it as my always-on quiet ambient echo, so all I have to do is turn my main delay unit on and off for heavy delays. Combine all this with my vintage MXR Dyna Comp and Boss RT-20, I’ve found a real nice middle ground between Wall and PULSE tones.

    [Thanks for your input! Actually, I mostly use a Line 6 POD at home and for years I used a Boss GT3 in my stage rig. I used the modulations and delays and combined it with stand alone gain pedals. Worked really well. Cheers! - Bjorn]

  31. Louis says:

    Incredible! Congratulations for that excellent Big muff/Big muff clones comparission.
    I need your help:

    My gear: MIM Strat (all standard)> Behringer Ultra Fuzz UZ400 > Dunlop Cry Baby > Behringer Vintage Tube Monster VT 999 [overdrive] > Behringer Overdrive OD400 [booster] > Behringer Vintage Phaser VP-1 > Behringer Digital Delay DD400 > Fender Volume Pedal > Fender Frontman 25R.

    I want to make some changes without expending a lot of money and selling the ones that i’ll not use:
    -Change the UZ400 with a BIG MUFF PI ($80)
    -Change the OD400 with a LPB-1 ($40) or with a Behringer Vintage Tube Overdrive VT911($50)
    -Change the vacuum tube of VT999 (12AX7) with another like (12AU7) that give me a less distorted tone, because when I use VT999 as a booster, it gives me a very dark sound.*

    I’m very satisfied with the tube moster VT999, so that’s what i want to check VT911 as a booster. Also I’ll change the tube of VT911 for a brighter tone.*

    I want your opinion about the changes I want to do, also recommendations of other pedals, other changes i would have to do in the chain of pedals descripted above; and I want you to recommend which vacuum tubes are the best for gilmour tones (Boost [VT911] and Drive [VT999]).

    Thanks… Thanks for your excellent website and your help.

    [Thanks for your kind words! Glad you enjoy my site :) The setup, chain and changes looks fine. A couple of suggestions... In terms of tubes, there are about three or four companies making tubes world wide and these license to a number of brands. I've been using JJ tubes for a while. These are warm and smooth with the punch and attack needed for David's gear and tone. Check out the Boss BD2 for a versatile booster and overdrive. Excellent option for David's Colorsound Powerboost and BK Tube Driver. It's also worth checking out the new TRex Tone Bug Booster. Hope this helped. - Bjorn]

  32. Jay says:

    Posted on FB but ill post here too as well. Im finished! after almost i a year ive finsihed building my Large Beaver! I would’ve finished sooner but i made it triangle specs then wanted to go back and redo the part to rams head specs lol holy shit what a process for this novice techy (whats funny is that now that im done i question wether i should’ve left it triangle specs LOL!). Anyways im curious about your Muff settings with the Beaver, actually really the only thing confuseing me is that you say “Tone, Gain, Volume”, hope its not a stupid question but since the Beaver has Volume ,Sustain, Tone, is “Gain” in refrence to the Sustain knob? Thanks Bjorn! Great Article!

    [Gain is the same as sustain on the Muff :) Of course, depending on your amp, guitar and what pedals you combine the Muff with I usually set the Beaver like this: volume 60%, tone 40%, sustain 50-60%. - Bjorn]

  33. kev says:

    Hi,does anyone have any opinion on line 6 hd modelling distortions and how they compare to the original gilmour rigs,I would recommend to bjorn a review and a trial run as after the man himself Dave. Your opinion ant thoughts are most respected

    [Like all multi processors there are some sounds that are great and some that are pretty useless. Which is what depends on what tones you're looking for. I think Line 6 are very good at amp modeling, modulations and delay but I think they could have done more to develop better sounding gain effects. TC Electronic is in my humble opinion superior when it comes to gain processing. - Bjorn]

  34. Elliot says:

    Also check this Rams Head clone: Orion Effekte – Ramlon Fuzz
    http://www.orion-fx.com/ramlon-fuzz.php?language=en

    [Nice! - Bjorn]

  35. Jay says:

    thanx bjorn, btw my setup is the usual 69/ssl-5 pups and a Peavey classic 50, also im useing a keeley BD-2 , would those settings you gave me work with combineing the BD? I usually have my BD as : Tone 10-11:00 ,volume 2:00 and gain between 9-10:30 are these also good settings for the BD-2? becaue sometimes i get confused on wether i should have my BD volume slightly higher then the muff and my RAT or vice versa. thanx agin

    [The settings for the Muff and BD are in the ballpark of what you'd be using but you might need to fine tune them to fit your setup and playing. I find that settings the Muff volume to about unity with the amp and the BD2, or whatever booster, with a slight volume boost is the best combo. Also, place the BD2 after the Muff. - Bjorn]

  36. Kevin says:

    Bjorn, In your older articles you say you prefer a Rat over Muffs when playing on smaller amps/bedroom level. Here you give the byoc a 10/10 for the smaller amps. Do you think the Beaver is the better choice over the Rat when playing on a lower volume or smaller amp?

    cheers!

    [Perhaps a bit misleading but the score is based on amps that can handle a Muff. I would not recommend Big Muffs for stuff like Roland Cube, Marshall solid states, Fender G-Dec and similar. For these I'd recommend the RAT, Boss DS1, TC Electronics Dark Matter and similar, which all are designed for these kind of amps. More on that here. The ones I've given a top score works very well on bedroom sized tube amps like the Laney Cube, Fender Blues Jr and similar low wattage tube combos or mini stacks. Please see the Big Muff tone tutorial for more. - Bjorn]

  37. Hunter says:

    Thank you for this great insight, Bjørn. I was wondering, I have the AA green Russian. I’m not a purist I would say but I do like authentic sounding equipment. So I do tend to be a little OCD when it comes to my pedals. Would you say that the AA Green Russian will definitely nail any. Gilmour tones aside from the Gilmour “fuzz era” because I know how different a muff is from a fuzz. It’s been really bothering me that I may have a muff that just isn’t suitable for anything more than his 80′s and 90′s tones because I like to play it all. Thanks a lot!

    [Well, how does it sound to you? What's important is that you think it sounds great. Spend some time on the settings, combine it with different voiced overdrive and boosters and modulations and see where that takes you. Most Big Muffs sound more or less the same but you can alter their tone with different boosters and modulations. Use a Mistress for the Animals and Wall tones and chorus for the 80s and 90s. The AA is a Sovtek clone, which David used in 1994. Prior and after he used a ram's head Muff, which is known for a bit brighter sound and not as much mid range as the Sovtek. Check out the BYOC Large Beaver for classic ram's head tones (Animals, Wall, Final Cut, Delicate, Island, GDansk) or the Electronic Orange Pig Hoof for something in between the ram's head and Sovtek. Hope this helped. - Bjorn]

  38. K. says:

    Hey Bjorn,

    Nice article. I am realy looking for a pedal to help me with some Gilmour sounds but aint looking forward to multiple Is there a bif muff clone that is versatile enough to serve as a main distortion unit playing other stuff like Porcupine Tree, Radiohead and interpol? The Royal Beaver or Musket caught my eye but maybe my my goal is too farfetched. I am playing on a VoxAC0 with my 60s strat and 360 Rickenbacker.

    Would realy value your opinion. Keep up the good work.

    [Hmmm... Well, the Muff is quite unique and you can't really compare it with other distortions. The Musket is perhaps the most versatile in terms of other tones but I wouldn't feel comfortable using a Muff for stuff like Porcupine, Radiohead etc. I think you're better off with a Shredmaster, Rat or TC Dark Matter. All of which has been in Steven Wilson's arsenal. - Bjorn]

  39. Nicholas says:

    Hello Bjorn,

    Great article, I always love how they manage to get straight to the point, players like me just seem to want to run to their guitars whenever they hear about pedals. Speaking of which, today I am going to buy my first distortion pedal since then I have been using primarily the amp distortion, which I plan to act as boost once this pedal is purchased. My favourite tones are the ones David reproduces during his Remember the Night performance at Royal Albert Hall.
    The pedals I was planning to look at include the Mxr Distortion +, the Big Muff Pi w/ Tone Wicker as well as the Little Big Muff and a Rat, as much as I love Gilmour, I think I may have to settle something with my 40 watt amp, I am currently using seymour duncan humbuckers in my guitar, should this smoothen out the tone a bit for all the pedals?

    Well than’s again, keep up the great work.

    [Thank you! Muffs have a tendency to sound a bit too wild and metal with humbuckers. Without knowing what amp you have I think I'd go for something versatile like a RAT. See this feature for more info. - Bjorn]

  40. K. says:

    Thanks for the feedback. I will keep my Rat on my board then. Nice to see you are also into porcupine tree.

    My question now is: is a Muff next to my Rat worth it.

    Context:
    The last couple of months (and comming months) I mostly play at home with the AC30 mastervolume helping me to keep the noise down. (probably what you call bedroom level). I have recently bought my stratocaster so i could focus on other music like my old love Pink Floyd. I use my vintage Rat and wondered if a Beaver or Red Muck would be a worthwhile investment for a more Gilmourish sound. Is it? Or is the difference between the RAT and Muck minimal at that sound level?

    [Sorry for my late reply. The RAT and Muff are two different beasts and can't really be compared. The RAT has much more gain and will sound more saturated, even on lower volume levels, than the Muff. In a bedroom situation you really need a booster with the Muff for it to produce the "right" tones. Anyway, I think the Rat and Muff works nicely side by side offering a wide range of tones. - Bjorn]

  41. Tolchok says:

    If you don’t mind my asking, what is your opinion of Catalinbread’s Manx Loaghtan?

    http://catalinbread.com/MANX

    [I haven't had the chance to try this one yet but it based on the clips it sounds like it's based on the late Sovtek Muffs with perhaps a bit more mid range and a couple of additional controls for tone sculpting. Catalinbread makes some amazing pedals so I'm sure this is a safe bet :) - Bjorn]

  42. martin says:

    hi björn!
    some days ago i had the chance to buy a used demeter fuzzulator. although i never heard about that pedal before i bought it because it was very cheap.
    still i cant say what kind of pedal it really is. the loose-setting sounds like an old warm fuzz, the tight-setting seems to be a kind of muff.
    but i think it is a nice pedal and worth to try it.
    and: a friend of mine said it sounds like “a muff for adults” ;-)

    [Congrats! It's a nice pedal indeed. I think it sounds like a mix between the old fuzz pedals and a Big Muff. Very versatile :) - Bjorn]

  43. Tomek says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    A few days ago, I bought Guyatone HD2 harmonic distortion and now I fight with him…
    I think that, Guyatone HD2 is a little similar to Big Muff.
    What do you think about Guyatone HD2?
    I found this:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBhtUWpQ9Bg
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed9z_J8G-oo&feature=relmfu

    Best regards
    Tomek

    [I haven't tried it actually. Sonically it's somewhere between a late 70s Muff and a silicon fuzz I think. Not as saturated and fat as the Muff but with a booster I'm sure it could be a nice alternative. - Bjorn]

  44. Sabá Netto says:

    Hi Bjorn! Any thoughts at the Wren and Cuff’s Tall Font Russian and the Box of War?

    Cheers!

    [I haven't had the chance to try any of them yet. I see that the Tall Font, early green Sovtek clone, gets a lot of praise. - Bjorn]

  45. Lee says:

    Hi Bjorn.

    Great feature, I have just picked up a tall font green Russian in perfect condition.. Its awesome. Strangely enough for me much quieter than the pig hoof in a home setup. Would you agree with that?

    I got a very pulse like tone from the second I switched it on. Combine with ce-2 and some serious gilmourizing lol

    cheers Lee.

    [My old green Sovtek is also one of the quietest fuzz pedals I've ever tried but I don't really have any noise problems with the Pig Hoof. It has a lot of gain though so you need to be careful when you mix it with a booster. - Bjorn]

  46. Martin says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    I was wondering if you like the Electro Harmonix Nano Muff Overdrive. They say that its got an old circuit like in 1969, after fans of the old stuff had complained about newer Muff circuits. Is that true?

    Cheers
    Martin

    [As the name implies it's more an overdrive than a Muff. The tone is a bit too mild for it to replace an ordinary Muff. Of the stock models check out the Tone Wicker or the Bass Muff. - Bjorn]

  47. martin says:

    hi!
    a little suggestion for all the people who have to use bedroom level …

    i use a vfe alpha dog pedal which is not a muff (!) but a very nice kind of a rat. you can choose the clipping method from vintage (to me it sounds similar to an old LM308 rat) to turbo (that turbo rat sound – not my choice). there is also a fat control which adds bass and a switch for adding a germanium stage or a mosfet (very smooth).
    the pedal has lots of gain in reserve and really likes to sing. never tried it with a boss bd2 (think it works well) but the vfe loves the butler tube driver for smoothing out.

    i use the fuzzulator for a fuzzy muff tone and the vfe for a little bit more “action”. i even think about to ditch the violet north effects which is (was ?) on my gig pedalboard.

    [Thanks for the tip! - Bjorn]

  48. Julle says:

    Hi Bjorn!
    This is one hell of a page, so helpful and clear. By the way have you checked Black Arts Toneworks Pharaoh fuzz and LSTR. From what I heard, they’re very versatile pedals and nails those American and Russian muff tones.
    Cheers!

    [Thanks! No, I haven't had the chance yet. Thanks for the tip! - Bjorn]

  49. Doug says:

    This site is amazing. Well done and thank you for all the work that you have put into it.
    I had a few questions if you don’t mind…
    I am looking at either a BYOC Little Beaver or the EHX Big Muff/Wicker. I really like both these pedals for a Muff. Which do you like better for the all around Gilmour experience?

    For my Overdrive I currently own a Keeley modded SD-1 (TS808 Spec) and a Paul C. TIM pedal. What would I gain if I switched over to a BD-2? Could the TIM or SD-1 cover the same ground as the BD-2?

    What can you recommend for a budget Flanger?
    Thank you so much.
    Doug

    [Thanks for your kind words, Doug! Between the two, I prefer the Large Beaver. The Tone Wicker is OK but I think the LB has more character to offer. The Tim is very similar to the old Colorsound Powerboost and Tube Driver with a transparent tone. I don't think the BD2 is a must when you have this. I'm a bit torn on flangers. While there are some decent budget models none comes close to the Mistress... this goes for any price range really. However, check out the MXR Micro Flanger, Ibanez FL9 and TC Vortex. - Bjorn]

  50. Howard Forton says:

    Hi Bjorn Not in your league I know but here’s my black russian big muff used on a go at the Time solo. I just acquired it for £40 and I don’t know why I didn’t get one earlier. This is honest – it sounds better the the Pete Cornish P2 I used to own some years back. Less bassy and unbelievably – queiter too!!! Thanks for this tremendous Big Muff feature Bjorn. Rock on Gilmour fans HAFSTRAT. thttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AMRNDJ5fBE

    [Yeah, those Russians are great, aren't they.. :) Thanks for sharing, Howard! - Bjorn]

  51. Roberto says:

    Hello,

    http://wrenandcuff.com/site/the-stompboxes/the-caprid/

    what do you thin about this???

    [Definitely! Send me one and I'll do a review... LOL! - Bjorn]

  52. Peter says:

    Hi Bjorn! Just a question. Big muffs make very much noice thats for sure, and when i stomp on my CS3 with my Big muff pi usa it makes the normal muff noice x100! Is this normal? And when i have the muff on with the CS3 and the guitar volume at 0 it doesent make that much nocie but its still lound like a normal muff noice x10 and when i turn the volum up on my guitar it does that wierd noice like david does on the intro of sorrow. Ty//Peter

    [Noise is usually a combination of many factors. A Big Muff has a very saturated gain character and a compressor is basically a gain effect. This means that you're combining two gain effects which will cause more noise. A compressor will also henhance certain frequencies causing even more noise. It's just the nature of the pedals. Be careful with the settings when you're combining Muffs and other distortions with overdrives and compressors. Alone, the Muff needs high gain settings but in combo with a second gain pedal, you need to roll down the Muff gain depending on how much gain the second pedal adds. In general though I'd rather use a transparent overdrive with Muff rather than a compressor. Compressors should only be used when needed and as a tool to enhance certain parts of your playing. - Bjorn]

  53. Scott says:

    Bjorn, first off, let me thank you for maintaining this wealth of great information. I’m wondering if you have any experience using a Danelectro Transparent Overdrive alongside a Large Beaver? I think Version 1 is suppposed to pretty close to that of a Timmy pedal. Just looking for some budget boost to go with the beaver.

    Thx

    [I think that would go nicely. As the name implies, it's a transparent overdrive with a considerable volume boost as well. The tone ranges from crystal clean to near fuzz. - Bjorn]

  54. Marc-André says:

    @BrianMay : I own a sundrive but I can’t try it properly at the moment. However, it sounds horrible when I play at home at low volume on my Peavey Classic 50. So I guess it’s not suitable for small amps.

    When I can I’ll try it loud and maybe post a soundclip so you can hear how it sounds like.

  55. Marc-André says:

    Hey Bjorn, do you think a RAT could have its place here in this review? Even though it’s not a Muff, you mentionned it many times in other articles maybe you could add the different kind of RAT as well?

    Just a thought…

    Thanks for your hard work it is very appreciated.

    P.S. Did you try the Sundrive and Moondrive from Costalab?

    [The RAT is indeed a great alternative to the Muff. I did include the G2 and DG2, which are very similar to the RAT. I'm planning a similar feature for distortions though, so the RAT will be featured there. Haven't tried the Sundrive nor the Moondrive but I have a Custom Fuzz review coming up soon :) - Bjorn]

  56. Marc-André says:

    @BrianMay : I tried the sundrive loud…. not sure if I like it.

    see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlsgbsHyZKU

    mine sounds almost like that.. but I guess it depends on taste but that’s not really what I’m looking for

  57. Reza says:

    Hi Bjorn, have you ever heard about Black Arts Toneworks Pharaoh? Please Bjorn do a review on the pedal. I need to hear what you think.

    [I haven't had the chance to try it out yet. - Bjorn]

  58. Marc-André says:

    Hi Bjorn, can’t wait to hear the review of the Custom Fuzz!

    thanks a lot!

  59. David McDade says:

    Hey Bjorn im havingg some trouble with buying a muff, at first I was leaning heavily to the large beaver, but now im almost swayed to a v2 musket. Every time I go to make the buy I hesitate and think well mabye I should go with the other. Which do you think would sound best with my vox? I just ordered a jj 12au7 to replace the dual triode 12ax7 in my ad50vt-xl to brighten and give it more headroom. tone wise I love the sound of both, ive tried both with dg20′s and cs69s (beaver sounded a bit heavier gain wise but the musket is more versitile), and honestly I just cant pick which I like more. So for the vox which do you think would be better suited because I just cant perceive which sounded best. Thanks again and I loved the new tone guides, cant wait for #4!
    Dave

    [Well, ultimately, it comes down to preference and taste. All of these Muffs sound similar with minor differences. The Musket is one of the more versatile and it seems to work nicely on most setups. The Pig Hoof is also a safe way to go but I think you'll be pleased with the Musket :) - Bjorn]

  60. Jlp says:

    Hello Bjorn!

    You talk about the Big muff 4 Germanium by Ehx, I got one, and I would like to know what do you think about the overdrive side of this pedal? Is there any resemblance with a colorboost?
    Actually, I use the overdrive side to boost my Big Muff, I find it pretty cool, but I never try a colorboost or any clone. So maybe it could be better.

    Thanks for all :)

    [Not quite. The Colorsound is based on silicon transistors, which are considerably more transparent and brighter. The Boss BD2 would be more similar. That being said, if it works out for you using the OD side to boost the Muff, then go for it :) - Bjorn]

  61. Keith says:

    Hey Bjorn, so are you saying that I shouldn’t be using the spark with the musket? I have been setting the musket for fuzz, and distortion, and pretty musch leaving the boost on clean at all times, as it finally gave me the that chimey, bell like ring I hear in Gilmours playing. I guess tame was the wrong word, but used as a clean boost, gain about 10-11:00, volume unity to slight boost, with eq’s both at about 1:00, and of ciutse the ckean settibg, seems to increase the frequency of the saw tooth waves from the musket, making it smoother, with more sustain. And I definitely only use a mild distortion on my RT-20 w/ TS 9 on Us and Them. Don’tyou leave your CSPB on clean boost most
    of the time? I’m pretty happy with the tones I’ve found, but was trying to se if the spark would have that same effect on the FF, but I guess shortening the wave is the diff between xistortion, and fuzz, I guess it’s different on every rig, guitar, and pedal settings.
    As usual, this post has self distructed, good luck Bjorn! Peace, Love, and:Gilmourish!!!!

    [No, I'm not saying that you should but can :) I'm always using either a Powerboost (the Throbak nowadays) or the TD as a basis for all my tones... including the cleans but it depends on what pedals you combine these with. The Muffs that I usually use doesn't have much mid range while the Musket does. The more mid range, the less boost you need, because the pedal sounds more saturated and warm compared to the more mids scooped ones. Anyway, you must try different setups and listen to what works best for your rig and the tones you want. - Bjorn]

  62. Paul says:

    Hi Bjorn, can you remember the settings you had for the Tone Wicker Big Muff? I’m not sure whether it is because I’m using higher gain amps (despite being on the clean channel) but I’m just getting Mudhoney sounds out of it even when I’m sending the signal through a compressor and noise gate.

    [I usually set all my Muffs fairly moderate with the tone around 40%, volume slightly above unity and the gain at 60%. Muffs sounds very different on different guitars and amps so it's hard to recommend anything specific. Obviously, amp settings also sets the overall tone. I'd be careful with using too much compression too. Try setting the amp up for a warm clean tone with the treble rolled considerably down and increase the mids and presence for a bit warmer tone. - Bjorn]

  63. Tony says:

    Hi Bjorn, Quick question, which do you prefer first in your pedal chain, the Rat or Big Muff? Tony

    [Placement depends on whether you're gonna use the pedals together or not. I wouldn't use the RAT and a Muff together since they're both distortions with lots of gain, so it doesn't matter where you place them. - Bjorn]

  64. julian says:

    Hello Bjorn,

    What do you think about the famous Ronsound Hairpie?

    Was about to buy one.

    regards,

    julian

    [I haven't tried it, so I can't comment on that. - Bjorn]

  65. kevin says:

    Great reviews Bjorn!
    What are thoughts if it was between the musket and the box of war? I notice they have very similar reviews. I like the versatility of the musket but dread so many knobs (and having to fiddle with it all the time). The box of war seems really awesome though, but I wonder how well it can do 70s stuff.

    Any other thoughts between these 2??
    Thanks so much!!!

    [They're two different pedals really. The BoW if perhaps easier to set up but IMO not that suited for David's 70s tones. The Musket is more versatile and the additional controls allow you to dial in a wide range of tones. However, it's not as accurate to the Sovteks as the BoW. Between the two I think I'd go for the Musket. - Bjorn]

  66. bailey says:

    Hello I hope all is well and its great to hear a new airbag album is in the recording stages. I have seen that most of the guitars tracks are done in your home studio, are you using the reeves and the 4×12 or the cub?

    The last time I posted I was in the stages of getting a pig hoof but do to sertin reasons I cud not. But that has changed and I’m getting quite fond of the B.Y.O.C stuff. So I got me a chorus and a large beaver .I’m undecided on which version to build. I was thinking the triangle then adding the agrishin with the tube works tube overdrive,(vintage 5 knob version,12au7 ,got for 70$ :) its absolutely fantastic. But I’m waiting for the competition to end next Monday. One last thing, I entered the competition on the first and I’m 99.9% shear the CAPTCHA Code was not there, so shud I reenter or something.

    My thoughts are to all on the U.S. east cost.

    Thanks from the stats, bailey

    [I'm recording some of the guitars at home with the Laney Cub. It's mostly some of the cleaner rhythm parts, soundscapes etc. I'll be recording all the leads and heavier rhythms with the Reeves later on.
    I'm very fond of the triangle but the ram's head specs are perhaps a bit more versatile. It also depends on what amp and guitar you'll be using with the pedal.
    You don't have to re-submit. I just had to add a captcha to reduce the spam. - Bjorn]

  67. Rolf says:

    Hi Bjørn

    Looking for advice on a good muff-clone for a dark plexi-style amp. I currently have the BYOC triangle, and it’s a fantastic and very smooth pedal, but with my Metro JTM50 (1986 bass spec) it’s too smooth and loose in the bass, and I find myself cranking the tone-knob on the triangle to get enough bite, resulting in a bit of harshnes in the tone. I could do with a pedal with a little more presence, bite and tighter lows to begin with. Maybe a ram’s head-circuit would do my amp better justice? You speak highly of the Pig Hoof, and another candidate that get great online reviews is the SUF VRH. How do you think one of theese would match my setup?

    Boosters is a couple of the usual suspects; Keeley BD-2 and Paul C Timmy. (One has to go, can’t decide which:-) The Timmy has the upper hand for now.

    regards

    [Hi Rolf. The Ram's Head does have a bit more bite and top end, so that may work out better. The Pig Hoof and SUF VHR and the violets in general are very dark compared to other ram's heads so you might find these a bit too much for your amp. I think my best tip would be the Musket. It's based on the Sovteks but it's one of the most versatile Muffs on the market. The focus feature is especially handy on darker amps for adding a bit more presence and for tightening the lower ends. - Bjorn]

  68. Laurens says:

    Hi Bjorn, yet again, a great article on the Muff pedals. Keep up the good work.

    Ever tried a Basic Audio Tri/ram Muff (boutique)?

    [Thanks! No, I haven't had the chance to try that one yet. - Bjorn]

  69. Vladimir says:

    Hi Bjorn! Thank You For your Awesome Site!
    Quick Question! I can’t exactly understand, Shall I plug Big Muff and Booster (Boss BD) on Clean Channel or Overdrive Channel?
    Does David use overdrive channel any time in past and now? Or i must forget about overdrive channel?
    Thanks!

    [Whatever works for your tone... David always uses the clean channel and I also think that Big Muffs sounds better on a clean basis. Try setting up the amp for a warm clean tone and plug the guitar into the Muff and then a booster. - Bjorn]

  70. Bibz says:

    Hi Bjorn

    With all your positive comments about the Colossus, I was expecting it to replace the Musket in your “Top 3″… Any further clue on why you kept the Musket after all over the Colossus? :)

    By the way, did you hear about the “red guard” limited edition of the Colossus?

    [Not familiar with the "red guard"... The Musket is still a more versatile Muff, so I'll keep that one in the top 3. The Colossus however is a great Civil War clone so my total score is based on the qualities of each pedal and these two are too different to really compare them with each other. - Bjorn]

  71. Bibz says:

    Oh and also,do you plan on reviewing the Catalinbread Manx Loaghtan and the Wampler Leviathan? They seem to have pretty decent comments so far.

    [Perhaps I should :) - Bjorn]

  72. Matt says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    This is my first time leaving a comment here on gilmourish, and Im a big fan of Gilmour, and gilmourish.com. I’v been trying to recreate Davids tones for a while now, just using the bassics – strat , boss ds 1 , boss blues driver , ehx small clone chorus , boss dd3 and a cs 3 compressor.

    since I have been gigging with my band for the last year or two, playing mainly classic rock stuff like the stones, santana, pink floyd ect, I bought a fender hotrod deluxe, with the eminence red coat wizard speaker which has a distinctivly british sound and feel.

    I always think to myself that, Hendrix , Clapton, Marvin and all the Rock ‘n Roll legends of the past 50 years or more, have all used just what has been available to them, and it sure got them a long way.It makes me think that I should just stick to what I have got and not worry all the time about what pedal I need to get next and just get on with playing. BUT as I’m sure you and eveyone else knows there is always room for one more pedal and one more guitar and so on,right…?

    Anhow, I have decided its about time I get a decent Big Muff or a clone, and where I live there’s not a big selection of boutique pedals, just boss, ehx, akai, mxr, ect – all the nomal brands.

    I was wondering if you could do a review of the Bass Big Muff as there are no real helpfull reviews on youtube.
    I would greatly appreciate it if you could as I am thinking about getting one, because i can get EHX stuff where I stay although I have never actually seen one in stock and have never seen anyone else playing one.

    Thanks, and great job with gilmourish.com, I’m a really big fan of Dave’s tone and playing, and enjoy watching your Faithfull renditions on Youtube.

    From Matt.

    [Hi Matt! Thanks for posting and your kind words! Glad you enjoy my site :) There's always that extra pedal, isn't it :) I fully agree with you that as long as you're satisfied with what you got then you should stick to that. Playing guitar is all about developing your own tone and style and too much focus on equipment can stand in the way for just that.Tone is also about experimenting with different guitars, amps and pedals so it's always a fine balance :) I already did a short presentation of the Bass Muff in this guide and I enjoy it very much. It's very similar to the old Sovtek models and I kind of find it strange that EHX calls it a bass Muff but whatever. It should go nicely with your amp and the guitarists you're referring to. - Bjorn]

  73. Louis says:

    Hey Bjørn.
    which fuzz would you recomment for a fender ’57 tweed deluxe + strat/tele setup?
    i want that nasty Sovtek sound. black key’ish.
    thanks
    Louis

    [I think the Colossus would be perfect. It's warm and dark, which will go nicely with the otherwise bright Fender and Tele and it's got balls for the nastiest tones :) The mid range control also allows you to fine tune the tone as desired. - Bjorn]

  74. Louis says:

    oh and the amp is 20 watts and there is a alnico blue speaker in it

  75. Miguel says:

    Hey Bjorn! I love your site. I’ve learned so much. Thank you for your hard work.

    I picked up a Skreddy P19 a few days ago. It’s supposed to be The Wall tones in a box. While I don’t have the Muff ears you do, it sounds quite nice to me. If I weren’t halfway around the planet I’d ship it to you for a review…

    There are a few YouTube demos if anyone is curious.

    Again, thanks for your hard work. I wish you and Airbag all the success in the world!

    Cheers,
    Miguel

    [Hi Miguel! Thanks for your kind words! I haven't had the chance to try out the P19 yet but judging by the demos it sounds pretty awesome :) - Bjorn]

  76. Richard says:

    Hey Bjorn,

    hope you’re doing good over there in Norway!
    Just a quick question: why is that you praise the Colossus so much, since you gave it a 10 overall, but with some drawbacks, but on the other side you say the Box of War is THE pedal for Davids PULSE tones and gave it a 10 in every possible way.
    Let’s say, I want that Sovtek tone, and I do not care for versatility or the possibility to shapen the tone with lots of knobs and switches: which one of those two will get me closer to the Civil War tones? I just want a one trick pony and pure good sound, not more (or less ;))

    Thanks a lot, take good care and all the best from Germany!
    Richard

    [The scores are based on a total of the points given in the review - noise level, whether it works in a bedroom setup etc - and my own personal opinion of the overall sound. Both of these pedals nails the Civil War 100%... sans the quirkiness of the imperfect Sovtek design, which to some is the mojo. Anyway, the BoW is a no frills pedal. Easy to set up and dead on THE tone. The Colossus is all that too and you get the chance to sculpt the mid range. So it depends on what you want and how you'll be using the pedal. Given that your rig is up for it, the BoW will probably be the best choice. If your rig needs a bit more tone sculpting and a more versatile pedal, then I'd go for the Colossus. - Bjorn]

  77. arrou says:

    Hi

    have you ever tried the little muff stuuf electroharmonix) ? i have one from the late 70s and it sounds great .
    any opinion on it ?

    thanks
    Jean-baptiste

    [I've only tried the new model. - Bjorn]

  78. Mark F says:

    Hi Bjorn

    Fantastic article, as usual!! As a matter of interest, have you tried the Way Huge swollen pickle?

    It’s supposed to be a BMP clone with a lot of tweakable parameters and there is even suggestion that it can even get you close to a fuzz face. I’d be really interested to see you do a review of it and put it thru its paces to see if it measures up to the hype ;-) price is quite reasonable too

    Cheers

    Mark

    [Thanks! I haven't had the chance to try it out yet but I'll have it in mind :) - Bjorn]

  79. Dave S. says:

    Hey bijorn

    I was wondering if you have tried the katana sound thunder cloud? its a big muff clone made in japan. Also, do you recomend boosting a big muff with a ibanez ts808 before it in the chain?

    thanks,
    dave

    [Never tried it but thanks for the tip! I don't think a 808 is the best way to boost a Muff. Its boosted mid range can make the Muff sound dark and choked. I think you're better off with a more transparent booster like a Boss BD2 or the TC Electronics Spark Booster. These are best placed after the Muff. If you do want to use the 808 as a booster I'd place it after the Muff. - Bjorn]

  80. Giovanni D N says:

    Ciao Bjorn, between all the fuzz That you played, it lacks the Tech 21 XXl original. It ‘a great pedal and I would be happy if you play it .. I play for many years, this pedal .. I strongly suggest you try it. Ciao and good luck

    [Thanks for the tip! It appears that they don't make it anymore but I'll try to check it out :) - Bjorn]

  81. Louis says:

    Thanks Bjørn
    i forgot to mention, that i use at Homebrew electronics Powerscreamer as my main drive.
    will the Colossus still be the best choice?
    Thanks again
    /Louis

    [The Colossus doesn't really need a booster but if you do, the Powerscreamer should work nicely. - Bjorn]

  82. Louis says:

    i use the powerscreamer in the middle toggle position, with a little more bass

  83. Eric Nyberg says:

    Bjorn do you have any thoughts on the Skreddy P19?

    [I haven't had the chance to try it out yet. I think the idea was to create a pedal that captured David's Wall tones - the combo of the ram's head Big Muff and the Cornish ST2 booster. From what I understand it's an upgrade of the Pink Flesh with better parts and a closer voicing. I didn't like the Pink Flesh but the reviews I've seen of the P19 looks very promising. - Bjorn]

  84. Nathan G. says:

    Thanks so much for doing all this! I’d like to be the third to request a test of the Manx Loaghtan by your calibrated ear. If not, thanks anyway and keep up the great work. Your site is and will be very valuable to many. Nathan

    [Thanks, Nathan! - Bjorn]

  85. Sam says:

    Hey Bjorn. I’ve been reading and researching pedals like crazy. I’m going insane I think..
    But, what do you recommend for a smooth fuzz/distortion? The Musket sounds pretty smooth to me. But I don’t like having too much gain. I use a super clean 6L6-based amp (Port City Pearl). I have no problem adding a Xotic RC Booster or Keeley Katana with the pedal either.

    I’ve pretty much narrowed it down to the EQD Hoof, the Musket, and the Box of War, but I’m not opposed into looking at others.
    Your opinion is greatly valued. Thanks :)

    [All three should be able to deliver the tones you're looking for but they do sound quite different to each other. The Musket is perhaps the most aggressive of the three yet the most versatile. The Hoof sounds the most vintage but the BoW is perhaps the cleanest, yet with most lower end. Hard to recommend anything really but based on your comment I think I'd go for the Hoof. - Bjorn]

  86. Howard FORTON says:

    Hi bjorn
    This is a fabulous run down of everything Big Muff. Iam waiting delivery of a mojohand collosus as I build up my pedal board again having ditched the line 6 pod x3. Got a nice 2012 USA STRAT a Blackstar HT5th 2×10 combo – nice simple clean channel and overdrive channel for just about everything else. I reckon I need an rt20. Snowy white has one on his wall pedalboard you know! I love the Animals sound. Got a joyo classic flanger which iam selling as it has something missing. Maybe I need a neo mistress flanger. I figure oh getting the best components I can afford without going crazy like when I bought a p2 ss2 duplex. It was too much for me to handle :-) anyway. Rock on Bjorn and thanks again for the best gilmour stuff anywhere on the planet.

    [Hi Howard! Thanks for the update :) The RT20 is a great Leslie/chorus pedal. Very versatile. I'd stay away from the Neo Mistress and go for the Mooer ElecLady instead. Check out the comparison I recently did. - Bjorn]

  87. Jacob says:

    Hey Bjorn, great reviews! I tried an Electro-Harmonix Big Muff Pi with Tone Wicker today, really liked the sound. I’m curious though why the Big Muff Pi gets an overall lower Gilmourish.com score than the Electro-Harmonix Bass Big Muff Pi. What makes you rate the Bass Muff higher than the Wicker Muff? Do you think you get better Gilmour sounds from the Bass Muff or the Wicker?

    Also, I’ve got an MXR Wylde Overdrive, do you have any experience with these? I’m hoping it will work well with a muff, any thoughts? Thanks!

    Jacob

    [I think the Bass Muff is a better pedal. Always loved the early Sovteks and this one is pretty close. I can't say which will be the best choice for your setup though. The Wylde Overdrive is kind of a mix between the old Tube Screamer and Distortion +. Perhaps a bit too much mid range for it to be used as a booster for the Muff but I've never tried that combo so I can't really tell. - Bjorn]

  88. Howard FORTON says:

    Ps
    Iam selling my Black Russian on eBay. Big Muff PI BLACK RUSSIAN EHX. If anyone is interested.

  89. Sam says:

    Well I just got my Musket V2 and it’s great :) I love how I can go from a clean-ish fuzz sound to full out classic rock and it can even do the Black Sabbath thing pretty well! This site is great.

    [Glad to hear! - Bjorn]

  90. Flavio says:

    Hey Bjorn, thats the second time I’m leaving a comment and I need to thank you for the quick response you gave me the first time, I’ve read it but latter I couldn’t find the post I commented to leave a thank. lol

    Well, I just want to share my recent experience: I’ve recently bought a Fender Strato Am Std, the new one with the fat 50s and started to test and build my rig: got a boss ME-25 for some modulation and amp sim while playing with the headphones. Tested a fuzz from artec and got a home made TS808 based with asymetrical clipping, a very transparent overdrive. Since I have Marshall Valvestate VS100 and sometimes also play with a Leaney LV200, I wasn’t thinking about getting a muff until I replace it for a small all tube amp and was considering a RAT.

    Then one day after looking for some options at ebay I found out that a new Little Big Muff cost less than $70… then why not give it a try? I’ve never touched a muff before, so my first impression was quite surprise: it sounded pretty good just pluged into the ME-25 using the amp and super stack sim, delay, chorus and boosted by the 808ish pedal. Just using a good sony headphones I was amazed by the sound I was getting for the first time.
    Then I turned off the amp sim and pluged it in the laney, the result was the opposite: terrible sound, like a box of bees! Its amazing how this little big muff changes completely depending on what are using together. But to my surprise I could get back a great tone from the laney using the amp sim from the ME-25 after lots of tweaks and feeding it on the laney, not using the loop. Maybe the ME-25 is acting as a pre amp for the laney?

    Well, now I’m really happy with the result I got, for example, adding the laney reverb I could get a very nice sorrow sound with the longest sustain I could ever hear from my guitar, so I guess it would be nice to share with you this unexpected result I got from this weird gear combination.

    Keep up your good work!

    [Hi! I think the ME-25 acts more like a booster and EQ, rather than a preamp. The amp sims are doing what a more transparent overdrive would do and the Muffs really need that to open up and get that smooth tone. Glad to hear it worked out! - Bjorn]

  91. Josh says:

    Great buyers guide showing the different muffs out there… Glad to see the old BYOC muff stands pretty near the top of the heap still – it really is special, isn’t it? I think you should get the Pig Mine on there too, though!

    [Thanks Josh! Hope all is well :) Never got the chance to try the PM but I hope to get my hands on a P19. Cheers! - Bjorn]

  92. Jordi says:

    Dear Bjorn,
    Your site is an absolute reference, a kind of bible I’d say ;) Thanks a lot for the incredible work!
    I have a very simple question:
    where do you place your BD2 or any other OD pedal to boost your BM? before or after? I’ve noticed that some pedals just don’t work to boost BM, they can drain the overall sound..
    Jordi (aka Steed on your social media friends)

    [Thanks a lot! Depends on what tones you want. It could go either way. I prefer it after the Muff though. Check out this feature for some Big Muff tone tips. - Bjorn]

  93. Arto says:

    Hi Bjorn!

    You have an amazing cite and great tips. I have a question about byoc stuff: what do you think about the byoc overdrive pedal? And how does it work when boosting the large beaver?
    I’ve heard that it’s a Ts 808 clone. I’m looking for building a Gilmour inspired board next summer. I’m looking for the wall tone with Muff, Mistress, Delay and booster. Pedals that im gonna get first are Large beaver and overdrive and then modulations ect… I have already a Boss SD-1 and ME-70. Thinking of using the SD-1 as a clean boost, when the board is complete. Oh yes, the amp i use is a Laney vc-15 with 12′ eminence speaker in it. I think it’s got very nice clean tone for the price. The drive channel is ok, but i don’t use it so often. Also heard it takes pedals very well too. I’m not sure of getting either a byoc triangle or Rams head version. Rams is more agressive, but triangle is more versitale for any era. Which one do you recommend if mostly playing at home(sometimes gigs too)
    Thanks for your answer. And congratulations, you have very helpful cite :)

    [Thanks for your kind words! I haven't tried the BYOC OD but in general, I wouldn't use TS9-ish pedals to boost Muffs. They have a lot of mid range, which can make a Muff sound muddy and dark. The SD1 is a better option (or a BD2) and use the TS9 as a dedicated overdrive. Just my two cents... Which Muff you should choose, depends on what tones you want. Both works nicely on the Laney and bedroom levels but you might find that the ram's head is the easiest to dial in for your Gilmour tones. - Bjorn]

  94. Superpila says:

    I don’t know if i should buy the costalab or the musket.. Any suggestion? I’d like to recreate the Meddle/DSOTM/The Wall sounds in particular.. Which is the most versatile?

    [Depends on your setup and which suits the setup the most. In general, I'd say that the Musket is the versatile but the Costalab is perhaps the closest to the tones you're seeking. - Bjorn]

  95. Andrew says:

    Bjorn, BYOC large beaver (a ram’s head and a triangle versions) is still your favorits today for sounds rams head and triangle muffs ? Thank you.
    PS Sorry for the many questions

    [The triangle version, yes. For Ram's Head tones I prefer the Electronic Orange Pig Hoof. - Bjorn]

  96. Lee says:

    hi,
    Maybe a silly question but anywho;
    Will the Electro Harmonix Bass Big Muff Pi work correctly with a standard 6 string guitar or is it dedicated to bass only?
    I ask as I am deciding whether to get the big muff tone wicker or the Bass one (as you rated it higher)
    Cheers
    Lee

    [It's a standard Muff circuit that'll work on any instrument. The Bass Muff is actually quite similar to the early Sovtek Muffs and well worth checking out. - Bjorn]

  97. Lee says:

    Hi Bjorn / all
    You mention that the big muff bass pi gives closer pulse tones than the standard muffs, am I right in thinking that the bass version is still useable with standard six string guitars?
    Ta
    Lee

    [Yep. Doesn't matter if you play four strings or harp... :) It's very close to the old Sovtek pedals. - Bjorn]

  98. Andrew says:

    Bjorn, in your rig you prefer to use Colossus or BoW for PULSEish sounds? Do you see any advantage in terms of sound (even small) in BoW on Colossus? Maybe now you prefer Iron Bell ? Thx

    [Hmmm... Difficult question. My PULSE rig feature Strat DG20 > Boss CS2 > Sovtek green Big Muff > BK Tube Driver > Boss CE2 > TRex Reptile > amp. I guess the BoW is the closest to the Sovteks but the Colossus has a couple of additional features that's really handy. Especially on smaller rigs and low volume, when you need to enhance the lower mids a little. Hard to choose but I think I'd go with the Colossus. - Bjorn]

  99. Andrew says:

    Thanks for the reply Bjorn) Tell, you not thought that Colossus sounds a bit dark than would like ?
    I plan to go to SUF CW or Colossus… SUF muff = (original sheme -> killer tone without extra pay), MHFX Colossus = very great tone , more versatility and great looks , difficult to choose especially since they cost the same hehe.. You do not have plans to write SUF muffs review in future ?

    [The clip I did of the Colossus sounds a bit dark but I don't think I did the pedal justice on that clip. It doesn't sound any darker than the Iron Bell or the early Sovtek models. It has a bit more lower end, compared to the SUF CW and WC BoW, and consoderably more gain, which I think is a bonus. The BoW, although an amazing pedal, could do with a bit more gain and top. The mid range toggle on the Colossus also makes it easier to dial in the tones you need for bedroom setups and low levels. If you're in doubt, check out more reviews and ask around. All I can do is to share my opinion. They all great sounding pedals and it's hard to make a choice :) - Bjorn]

  100. Nathan says:

    Just ordered a real green bubble font Sovtek Big Muff! Agh I can’t wait till I get it!

    [Congrats! - Bjorn]

  101. Nathan says:

    Question about that muff – my whole board is powered and it looks as though this muff doesn’t have an adapter plug. Would a clip converter wreck my tone? I hate having to remember to unplug it every time I’m done playing. On that note I noticed an interesting device by Dan Electrode that might help – it’s a 9v power supply that lets you lower the voltage to supposedly give you the “dying battery” tone. Do you think that would be a good idea?

    [Battery clip converter works fine on those old Sovteks. A dying battery is not the same as a carbon battery. It's more like an effect. Some players want the tone you get from old fuzz and treble boosters when the battery is almost flat. It gives the pedal a choked tone. - Bjorn]

  102. Sebastian says:

    Hi!
    What do you think about the Suhr Riot Distortion Pedal?

    [Haven't tried it. - Bjorn]

  103. james says:

    you gave the large beaver (tri spec) 10/10 would you still give the ram head spec beaver 10/10. thanks

    [The 10 is for both :) - Bjorn]

  104. Josh says:

    So for delicate sot tones would I rather have the boss bd2, or a tube screamer?

    [Depends on your amp and setup. On a general note, the TS has a bit too much mid range for Gilmour's tones but the BD2 can be a bit too bright on some setups. But to answer your question - the BD2 :) - Bjorn]

  105. Bjørnar says:

    Great site Bjørn! You’ve realy cracked the code! Thanx for your effort!
    Do you have plans to implement the review of the Mojo Hand Iron Bell in this Muff summary, with the same “standard” sum-up and grading/ score, so it’s comparable towards the rest?
    Vet du om det er mulig å få kjøpt den i Norge og hva ca pris den ligger på? Har ikke klart å finne den på norsk nettbutikk….:-S
    Takk!;-)
    Vurderer å selge min Orginale Black Strat Relic. Vet du om noen nordmenn på jakt?:-)

    [Hei Bjørnar! Tror ikke det er noen MH dealers i Norge. Funker fint å handle fra PGS. Skal si i fra om jeg kommer over noen som er interessert i en Relic :) The Iron Bell will be included. I have a few more Muffs to review and will update the Buyer's Guide later this year. - Bjorn]

  106. Brian says:

    I own the Top Tone DG-1 (maybe going on two years plus now) and play into a DR-103 Hiwatt head with an internal resistor (based on Hi-Tone Amps Mark Huss circuit) to link the brilliant and normal inputs. I didn’t experience excessive noise and found I can push it nicely with a BK Butler Tube Drive or the T-Rex Spindoctor. The T-Rex is nice in that I can program it via midi to get a tighter focus just for the muff. I found with my particular rig, the unit by itself is not noisy, but should not be used with any kind of compressor (as correctly noted somewhere else by Bjorn, its a general rule for good reason not to use compressors with a muff circuit). I do use a tube buffer first in line with high impedance, and the DG-1 likes to be driven hard. NOTE: my favorite Gilmour tone came from his 2006 tour which I saw in Chicago and was a few rows back centered on his cabs, and I was hooked (thick tone with a nice chirp when playing, sounded naked with no modulation). I found the DG-1 in my rig recreated that very crisp and thick tone very accurately. The tone is somewhat focused, not very “thumpy” with the bass frequencies like my USA EH Muff, but very full. I have a JHS modified GE7 for a bit of treble boost, but the internal Hiwatt link added some presence and I seldom use the JHS GE-7 with the muff except for solos. The resistor in my amp also allowed me to be able to drive a DR103 at a slightly reduced volume because of the gain (I get the same driven tone with the main at 9 o’clock where I used to play at 11 o’clock). This leaves me to the bad part about the pedal.

    The biggest problem is the volume issue- DG-1 really shines when the amp is pushing air. Nothing beats turning the amp up a bit and feeling the pedal and the power of volume to make the guitar sound magical and huge, but sadly this isn’t practical.

    [Thanks for sharing, Brian! - Bjorn]

    I am only mentioning it because it shows how different pedals are so subjective to the rig. This pedal is relatively expensive. I live in the USA, and its a huge risk when buying a pedal like this because of all the variables involved. But in my case, it paid off and I found the pedal works with my particular setup with a relatively larger amp very well.

  107. T.Quay Williams says:

    Bjorn,

    Where does the Iron Bell rate in all of this? It is not exactly a Muff and not a pure Fuzz so has it been forgotten? I might prefer it since I am tired of the thundering sounds that have to be turned up so loud to become creamy on a home set. (p.s.-I bought a Laney Cub on your recommendation and it is fantastic!

    [I didn't forget it but I have a few more Muff reviews coming up and I'll update the Guide later. The Iron Bell definitely belongs in the Muff family. I think I would give it a 10 for bedroom setups and a total score of 8 :) - Bjorn]

  108. Niander says:

    Hi!
    I’m useing a Big Muff Pi NYC. I run it after a Zoom Power Drive (to boost the Muff as well the other drive)> Danelectro Cool Cat Drive > Boss FL-2 > ZT Lunchbox.
    Here is the deal. When I use my Yamaha SC300 T (strat like guitar) no problem, the Muff by itself gives huge amount of volume, but when I use a chinese replica of a Eastwood Airline with 3 humbuckers it lacks volume. Useing humbuckers, when I first step at the Muff it gives WILD volume boost but few seconds later it just have a volume drop. (this chinese replica have a DeArmond superbucker 2400 in the bridge, a Gibson P94 – middle and a Joe Barden Two/Tone – neck position).What is wrong with my muff? I allready changed batteries, and compared few baterries, but Is all the same, the first seconds are hugh volume boosted then it just drops out. Can you help me?

    [Sorry for my late reply. I'm not familiar with the pickups you mention but in general, Muffs react differently to different pickups. Hot pickups, which has more mid range than others, tend to make the Muff sound dark and very compressed. It might not be the best combo for your Gilmour tones but it works great for stoner and classic rock. I doubt there's anything wrong with the Muff. - Bjorn]

  109. Gustavo says:

    Hello Bjorn,

    Colossus x Iron Bell

    Wich one do you prefer?
    What´s the difference between them?

    Wich one do your prefer to play Pink Floyd´s songs?

    Thank you!

    [Hard to choose because they sound very different from each other. The differences are described in the Iron Bell review. I don't know... the Iron Bell sounds more distortion-ish, whole the Colossus sounds more authentic Muff. - Bjorn]

  110. Jakes says:

    Sorry, how about CostaLab Custom Muff 1st version? The one with the π (pi)

    [Not sure what the difference is... haven't tried it. - Bjorn]

  111. Chris says:

    Hey Bjorn,

    First of all: Thanks a lot for your great work on this website and for sharing your knowledge.
    Any chance you do a review on the Mooer Triangle Buff? I’d really appreciate your opinion on that one.
    If you had to choose between a North Effects Ram and a Bass Big Muff, which one would you buy?
    (Also but not exclusively for Gilmour-Sounds)

    Cheers

    [I plan on testing a bunch of the Mooers very soon. The North Effects and Bass Muff are very different. The first, being a ram's head, is very bright sounding with an overall aggressive character. The BM is based on the early Sovteks, with a dark and smooth tone. Depends on what you're looking for. The BM might be more versatile for stuff like Sabbath, Jack White and stuff like that. - Bjorn]

  112. Pancho says:

    Thanks for all this!!!! It’s amazing!!!. My question is: sd-1 or ts9 (this is all i have) to boost my big muff pi??

    Greetings from Chile

    [Try both and listen to which fits your rig. I think I'd go with the SD1. - Bjorn]

  113. sebastien says:

    Hello Bjorn,

    What is in your opinion the most appropriate Big Muff clone for the division Bell Tone?

    I own a ronsound hairpie 75 (ram’s head clone), and it sound smore dedicated to animals / wall tone;

    Best regards,

    Sebastien

    [Depends on your guitar and amp and how they sound combined with a Muff. David did use a Civil War Sovtek, so personally I think the closest match would be a MojoHand Colossus or the Wren and Cuff Box of War. You could also go for a MojoHand Iron Bell, which probably is the most versatile sounding Muff, or the Blackout Effectors. - Bjorn]

  114. Niander says:

    Thanks for replying Bjorn.
    I have asked about volume loss later. Now somthing strange is happening.
    With both guitars I mentioned before when I turn the Muff on hugh amount of volume at first but then I have a great volume loss, checked cables, tested the muff by itself…changed cables,batteries…but after some time playing with the Muff the volume drops. I really don’t know what to do, mybe I got a bad one, or it’s damaged. Any clue?

    [Hmmm... Hard to tell. If possible, try the Muff on another guitar and amp and hear how that sounds. Could be the Muff or it could be any other part of your rig... tubes, cables, battery... anything... - Bjorn]

  115. Andre Rodrigues says:

    Hey Bjorn! Great work! I absolutely love your reviews and description, very helpful indeed!
    What’s your opinion on the Blunderbuss Musket Fuzz from Blackout Effectors?

    Keep up the good work!

    [Thanks a lot for your kind words, Andre! The Blunderbuss is a hybrid fuzz based on the Musket with both germanium and silicon transistors. I prefer the standard Musket but the Blunder has a much edgier tone with lots of harmonics and plenty of gain on tap. As for hybrids... check out the Hoof Fuzz as well :) - Bjorn]

  116. Stef says:

    great review as usual. compressor (dyna-ssor) before or after red muck – still move back and forth (mp booster later in the chain). interested to hear your opinion.
    thx and keep up the great work

    [Thanks for your kind words! The compressor usually goes first, then all the gains, but try different setups and hear what sounds best on your rig. - Bjorn]

  117. Christian says:

    why you dont post the Iron Bell by mojo hand FX in this gear guide ?

    [The guides will be updated frequently. - Bjorn]

  118. Nils says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    I have this SUF/Stomp under foot pedal – the TRI version, and i think it’s great, though i’m not sure which era it does best. You should put one of the versions up for a review or something!

    One other thing, for a home setup,what would you use to boost the muff? i’ve heard that the tube driver is not ideal for home setups, because they need to be cranked to sound good. I have a Boss Blues driver(keeley mod) that i could use or would you suggest an alternative?

    I really do love your playing, and your site – it’s amazing!

    [Hi Nils! Antar at du er norsk? As far as I know, David has only used the triangle Muff during the second half of the On an Island tour. The pedal was used in combo with a TRex Replica for Echoes. Anyway, you should be able to dial in some nice tones covering most of the 1977-83 as well as 2006. The BD2 works nicely. If you want to try something even more transparent and clean, I recommend the TC Spark Booster. - Bjorn]

  119. Julius says:

    Hi Bjorn!
    I need your help. I need a muff that’s close to David’s Animals tone, but I’d like it to be some what similar to Sovtek muff too. What would you recommend?
    Thank you!!!

    [Hmmm... I don't there is one but check out the Musket and Hoof Fuzz. I think those will be the closest match to your request. - Bjorn]

  120. Anthony says:

    Greetings from Russia, Bjorn!
    You make a very useful site!
    Let me show you another muff-clone. This called Chris Custom Mufff. Check it here: http://chriscustom.com/overdrive-pedals/mufff.html The price is about 1000 euro. You can see some demos on the product page! Or maybe order one to make your own cool gilmourish-style demo. There are some fuzz-clones also.

    [Thanks for the tip! I'll check it out! - Bjorn]

  121. Andrew says:

    Bjorn please tell his opinion about P1 why he did not get 10 points?
    And  please tell me what you think of P1 against your favorites muffs BYOC & Pig hooff ? They are all beautiful, but still I’m interested your subjective opinion .
    Thx.

    [The reason I didn't give the P1 10 points is that I personally think there are better sounding Big Muffs on the market. Keep in mind that the P1 is a ram's head model, so the only real comparison from my list would be the Pig Hoof. For my rig and preference, the Pig Hoof sound better. Cornish makes some amazing sounding pedals but my issue has always been that they sound a bit too pristine and "perfect". I know a lot of people disagree but I also suspect that a lot of people think that the pedals must be perfect simply because David's using them. The fact is that he's mostly using other pedals, mainly Chandler/Butler and Electro Harmonix for his leads. But again, this is my very personal Buyer's Gear Guide and the scores and subjective. - Bjorn]

  122. JAIME says:

    … and we appreciate your subjective opinion and the chance to say what you think about anything.

    THANK YOU

    AGAIN

    [Thank you, Jamie :) - Bjorn]

  123. Keith says:

    @David, glad you checked out the Fralin site. Although Lindy makes some great pickups for most brands of guitars, if you’ll do a little research, you’ll find that where he really shines is with his Vintage style Fender pickups. As I said before, he welcomes calls to tell him exactly what you want. I agree with Bjorn that 6 k Neck, and 6.8-7k bridge is the best for Gilmourish tele tones, and his sock Teles, with a 5-8% overwind on the bridge would do the trick nicely. I always agree with Bjorn that noiseless single coils don’t work like the standard single coil, but if you read how his split blades are made, they work the same as a typical single coil because they aren’t like split blades, but actually have two pickups that cover 3 strings each, and are reverse polarity to cancel noise, but won’t cancel that lovely controllable feedback like “noiseless” pickups do. However, for pure Vintage Fender, even Fender doesn’t doesn’t make their
    custom shop pickup with all the period correct materials, nor do they they hand bevel each pole piece to exacting precision. I preach Fralin pickups for Fenders becauseof the man’s love for Strat’s and Tele’s because he’s been playing nothing else for over 40
    years, and knows them as well as anyone in the bussiness! So, give the shop a call, and ask them about the models you’re interested in, and how Vintage, or hot you want them, and they’ll be happy to make them to any spec possible! Once again Bjorn, hope you don’t mind, and you’ll be talking about them as soon as your set is in your favorite guitar, where I think they’re likely to stay! :)

    Peace,Keith, that postmaster craps getting old. Everyone knows I post alot, but it’s out of love for the site, and all on it!

    orrect materials, nor do they hand bevel and perfectly stagger

    [By all means Keith! Thanks for the input :) - Bjorn]

  124. Andrew says:

    Bjorn, you probably want to say that many fans of David playing the guitar mindlessly buy Cornish ? I totally agree! On youtube full of examples where people have all the pedal Cornish and and they have a ugly sound because they do not know how to turn the knobs… But back to P1, in the right hands it produces amazing sound for my ears very close to early David muff sound , 78 CBS promo video, as example ..
    Also P1 does not have this “digital taste” (if you know what I mean), like other contemporary ala muff pedals like “Musket” as example ( for my ears) .
    This is very subjective, but it is “feature” many modern pedals.
    Very few audio examples with Electronic Orange Pig Hoof =(( while with P1 enough of them to make up a very good understanding how it sounding, But I definitely trust your choice. So at the moment I am in the process of selecting a P1 or EA PH.
    As for the David & P1, he has a magnificent examples original “ram’s head” muff and he just does not need any copies. Unlike us David fans)
    Can you also tell a little about your “yellow” prototype ? It makes sense to wait for access to it ? What you prefer at the moment?

    [Well, I'm not saying that people buy Cornish pedals mindlessly. Whatever they want to spend their money on is up to them. However, some have a tendency to think that Cornish pedals are the best no matter what. I have no idea why but it might have something to do with Cornish's legacy and David using them... I don't know. I can fully understand the thrill of owning a Cornish pedal and of course, I know that they're amazing sound and well built so there's nothing wrong there. My point is that tone is something personal and subjective. If you only buy pedals, guitars and amps based on the brand and a "the more expensive the better" principle, then I think you're making a mistake. But... that's just me :) The Pig Hoof has been my favourite since I first tried it. It seems to work best for my rig and the tones I want. - Bjorn]

  125. RIck From Chicago says:

    Hello BJorn, your sight is awesome. I have learned allot, and thank you for taking the time to publish all the reviews and articles. I have a question about my Pedal Board. I bought a Box of War Wren and Cuff Muff from the Chicago music Exchange, I then have Boss Keeley Mod BD2, Small Stone, Mxr Carbon copy, and TC Electonics Corona Chorus. Im thinking about adding a Hartman Analog Flanger and possibly a Digital Delay. What do you think of my Pedal Board?? any changes or suggestions? If you where to get a digital Delay what would you buy(looking for a new one).
    Im also playing through a Two Rock Studio Pro 35.

    [Thanks for your kind words! Your pedalboard looks great! Depending on what delay tones you want to cover, I think I'd go for a processor. Check out the TC Nova or Repeater, Boss DD20 or the Eventide. Cheers! - Bjorn]

  126. Chris says:

    Awesome guide as always. I just ordered the BYOC Large Beaver triangle from axe and you shall recieve, can’t wait for the bad boy to arrive!

    [Thanks! I think you'll be very happy with that pedal :) - Bjorn]

  127. cesar says:

    Hi Bjorn great videos!!

    please between the BYOC LBM AND THE PIG HOOF, wich one is better, most versatile (dark side, wall, animals, wywh, pulse era)

    i have a Strat loaded with EMG , and a marshall jvm 410h

    hope you can help me

    thanks by the way!

    [Pig Hoof. - Bjorn]

  128. Sergio says:

    Hi Bjorn
    Currently, I’m recording at home with a ’62 Custom Tele MIJ (with ’51 Nocasters) and a Laney Cub 12 Combo. What’s your opinion about using the Pig Hoof with the telecaster?
    Thanks!

    [The NoCasters has very low output so I don't think you should expect those huge growling sounds. The Pig Hoof has a lot of gain but I'd definitely pair it up with a booster for a bit more balls. Check out the TC Spark Booster, Boss BD2 or ThroBak Overdriveboost. Otherwise, the setup with a Muff looks great! - Bjorn]

  129. Blobe says:

    Hi Bjorn, and god bless you and your site (and i’m not a christian, so pick your own god)

    I’m about to get a stomp under foot 2247, which, should be a reissue of a 73′ Big Muff (2247 nickname is because it got sold on ebay for 2.247$ :/)

    But, the seller told me the sound is VERY muddy when used with a dark pickup (actually, any bridge pickup)
    Apparently Matt from SUF told him it was normal, what’s your take on this (He also said the bridge pickup was working very nicely with the pedal)
    Would it benefit from a treble or mid boost, placed before the 2247?
    Cheers,
    Blobe

    [Thanks for your kind words, Blobe :) A pickup alone doesn't determine how a Muff or any pedal sounds. Of course, a darker sounding pickup will make the pedal sound darker, muddier and perhaps even a bit choked but most of the tone comes from the amp. Treble boosters are not that suited for Muffs as they will make the pedal even more aggressive and harsh. Try a clean booster like the ThroBak Overdriveboost or TC Electronic Spark Booster. - Bjorn]

  130. Martin says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    what would be your advice for a ’52 reissue Tele with a Fender type amp – BOYC Large Beaver with Ram’s Head or Triangle specs? I know David combined a Ram’s Head and a Tele for “Dogs”, but according to your description, the Triangle is smoother. In your videos, the BYOC Triangle sounds as good to me as the Pig Hoof does – and it’s the same with the Musket by the way. I’m not sure if I could tell them apart without reading the video titles. There are things in music that are more evident when you’re playing than when you’re listening – and this seems to be one of them.

    Thanks
    Martin

    [Each Big Muff has its own characteristics and tone so I can't really say which is better for your setup. It depends on what tones you're looking for. All three works nicely with a Tele and Fender setup but if you're asking for my favourite, I'd go with the triangle BYOC. - Bjorn]

  131. Will says:

    Hey Bjorn,

    Could you give me some advice please. I’m after Gilmour’s 1977 Animals tone… I just ordered a Colorsound Power Boost, next in line, is a Big Muff!!! I would love an original Ram’s Head, but one, they cost a BOMB, and two, people say they are noisy and they have the level drop. So If I got one, It would need to be modified, which would cost even more… So, what Muff would you recommend? I know you love the Pig Hoof, but the waiting time is ridiculous, like 6 months… I know the BYOC is supposed to be good as well… What would be the best choice? I’m playing through a Hiwatt G100R, solid state amp, but I plan on getting a valve amp in the near future. Should I just bight the bullet and get an original, or what?

    Hope to hear back from you! Thanks :)

    [I would never recommend anyone to buy an original unit. As explained in the feature, you never know what you get. Some of those old units had crappy components and they haven't aged that well. You might be very lucky but you might end up with an unplayable unit. Depends on how eager you are to own on original unit. Many of the clones available today are identical to a specific unit from the 70s, so they're actually clones and not based on or modified. I don't think you'll get closer to the tones you're looking for than the Pig Hoof. The BYOC ram's head is also spot on. If you want something slightly different sounding, I recommend the Iron Bell and Hoof Fuzz as well. - Bjorn]

  132. David Auchterlonie says:

    Hello bjorn, I have been researching big muffs, and am getting overwhelmed , I have noticed wren and cuff makea clone of the rams head big muff called the caprid you tried this pedal.

    Thanks for a great forum,
    David

    [The Caprid is based on a ram's head but other than the identical chassis the pedal is like any other clone. Sounds great though. I also recommend the Electronic Orange Pig Hoof for David's Animals-Final Cut tones. For Delicate Sound of Thunder and PULSE, check out the MojoHand Colossus or Blackout Effectors Musket. - Bjorn]

  133. Eric Halfhill says:

    I hate bring up the life after Gilmour, But. I just saw Roger Waters last summer in Pittsburgh , PA. I was excited about the show but pessimistic about the band. I was greatly pleased with Dave Kilminster’s sound. Over all, he had great tones. After looking into his gear I found that his rig was as follows.
    Cry baby Wah, Boss: ce5, Even tide: delay reverb, Evh flanger, Suhr: Riot OD, (One of the best sounding pedals I have ever heard.) Top tone DG 2. Blackout: Musket fuzz.

    Over all Dave number 2 did a great job. Also Saturday Night Live’s old guitarist G.E. Smith was with them and I have always been a fan of his. The strangest aspect of the night for me was that there was not a single Strat amongst them. Every guitar player on stage used telecasters.

    I love what you do Bjorn. Keep up the great work!

    [I've never really been a fan of Waters band and the recent tours but the new The Wall show blew me away - both the show and the band. I think they did a fantastic job recreating the whole vibe of the original performances. BTW, I don't think we've seen the last of Gilmour yet :) - Bjorn]

  134. David Auchterlonie says:

    I love the mlr tone the best and delicate that’s what got me into pink floyd in the first place, I think musket and unlike the pig hoof have no waiting period

  135. Marc says:

    Hi
    I’ve just bought a BMP w/ Tone Wicker looking for a ‘standard’ BMP sound with some more options, not necessarily Gilmourish.

    With my amps (a Fender vibroverb and peavey C30) it sounds really muffled and dark, compared with my other fuzz pedals (Fuzz Face for example), with tone on and wicker off, classic BMP mode, I have to put the tone near 3 o’clock, otherwise there is like having a blanket over the amp.

    Are your units that dark? I remeber my old V2 was way brighter.

    thank you

    [The Tone Wicker is perhaps closer to the 90s Sovtek Muffs, which has a darker character compared to the ram's head. Your amps are quite dark too so you might want to consider a brighter sounding Muff like the Pig Hoof or Large Beaver. - Bjorn]

  136. Chris says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    Have you checked out the Biyang Fz10 Fuzz Star at all? Im seriously thinking about buying one. Its super cheap and from the reviews I’ve read and demos i’ve seen, looks like an excellent muff clone for the price (under $50 usd) Their compressor is supposed to be a clone of the Dynacomp and i’ve even seen some folks say they like it over the Dynacomp. I’m hoping to get my Fuzz Star next week.

    [I haven't tried it so I can't really comment on it. - Bjorn]

  137. Lou says:

    Bjorn,

    I listened to the video of the new Mini Fuzz Face, Blue in color. Andy from PGS.com does a great video and throws in some Gilmour licks in the video. Let me know what you or anyone else thinks of that one. I know it’s a Fuzz and not a Muff :-( Thought I would pass that one on to ya. Joe Bonamassa’a Black Signature Fuzz Face sounds fantastic but it’s only batt. operated, no power supply :-( Don’t know about Gilmour’s tones but I do know Joe has a great tone all his own.

    [I haven't had the chance to try the new minis yet but from what I understand, the grey and red are similar to the bigger counterparts while the blue has a more saturated tone. I think fuzz sound much better with carbon batteries but it's indeed a hassle. The JB fuzz is a great alternative for David's early 1968-70 tones. - Bjorn]

  138. Manuel says:

    Hey! First of all, great information.

    I just want you to be really honest with me, I’m from Venezuela and it’s very difficult to find the “Box Of War” (That’s the pedal that I really really want) or even buy it from other country, so, the only options that I have are: “Big Muff Pi” “Little Big Muff” “Fuzz Face Mini” “EarthQuaker Hoof Fuzz” (Little Big Muff have the best price). What I want to play? Sometimes big solos sounds like Gilmour’s Comfortable Numb and sometimes Black Keys or Jack White’s sounds. I’m using a Fender Stratocaster American Standard, Nova Drive and a VOX AC15.

    I’m becoming crazy by taking this decision, I can’t try the pedals to make the choice. Could you give a nice advice and prevent me to become crazy?

    Thanks!!!!

    [Of the ones you mention I'd go for the Hoof Fuzz. No doubt. It nails David's tones and the more fuzzy stuff like Black Keys etc. - Bjorn]

  139. Manuel says:

    Bjorn! Bad news for me, the Hoof Fuzz was sold. There’s just 3 options now: Big Muff Pi – Little Big Muff and Bass Big Muff (This one used). Sorry for bother you, but, what would you recommend for me now?

    [The Bass Muff is pretty good actually. Very close to the old Sovtek models. If not that, then the Little BM. - Bjorn]

  140. Matteo says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    I’m having some oscillation issues with my Pig Hoof lately…it makes a huge noise when I turn it on and I don’t have time to wait for it to be repaired at Electronic Orange Pedals, since I have a show soon: I was gonna replace it with a “Caprid” by Wren and Cuff….have you tried this pedal yet and what do you think about it? thanks!

    [You're certain it's the pedal and no changes in your playing environment? The PH and other high gain pedals will amplify any noise sources so there might not be something wrong with the pedal but rather some interferance that hasn't been there before. If that's the case, then the Caprid will be equally noisy. Anyway, I haven't tried the Caprid but it's supposed to be a ram's head clone so I guess you can't go wrong :) - Bjorn]

  141. Matteo says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    replying to your observation in the previous comment….yeah unfortunately it’s the pig hoof the problem, I talked about that with Jan at E.Orange and I tried changing amp, guitar, and other pedals as well just to find where the trouble was…but the problem still remains even when the pedal is turned on and alone with no other effects in chain. :( too bad.

    [OK, sad to hear but I guess these things will happen. The Caprid, being a ram's head too, will be a great alternative I'm sure. Good luck with the show! - Bjorn]

  142. clark says:

    Hey bjorn I hope your doing fine.

    I recently rippripped GC off (unintentionally they screwed up). I did a trade and traeed my G&L for a fsr mexi strat and used the rest of the leftover cash for a used russian muff (2v, I know that’s not its reffered as but k have the version with only 2 screws on the top), and holy s@*/ I love it but since its discontinued I don’t wana take it out on tje road or damage since its my favorite piece of gear and it being collectible since its discontinued. I tried the wren and cuff box of war at the chicago.music exchange and that pedal is the best muff clone I’ve heard. But its slightly pricey, do youn think rhe SUF civil war is equal or better? I tried the wren and cuff tall front and it wasnt good. Or are their any suggestions u have, (preferably a clone that doesn’t need a booster) I wana free up my xotic efffexts ac booster for rhythym crunch.

    Thanks, peace. Btw big muffs are alot more versatile than you give them credit for. If you get the right muff and tweak the knobs and have a good booster, I found you can make it fit many different genres.

    [Hi Clark. Well, Big Muffs are versatile and more and more guitarists feature them as a part of their sound. It got a hbuge revival in the early 90s with the whole grunge movement and similar bands today still employ the old beast. Milder Muffs like the triangle can also be used for a wide range of tones. That being said, the Big Muff has a distinct tone and although there are differences between the triangle, ram's head, Sovtek etc, they're still Big Muff with that very recognizeable tone. Based on that, I think a distortion or heavier sounding overdrive will cover much more ground and be more versatile for the majority of sounds and players. OK, to your question... The BoW is definitely the best Sovtek clone I've tried. There are lots of different clones on the market so it depends on whether you want to replace your pedal with 100% authenticity or get one with a similar tone with a few additions. The Blackout Effectors Musket is a great alternative with a typical Sovtek flavour but lots of different features and tones as well. The EarthQuaker Hoof Fuzz is another. If you want something closer and one that doesn't need a booster then I strongly recommend the MojoHand Colossus. - Bjorn]

  143. clark says:

    Hey bjorn thanks for answering timely and respectfully. I decided to bite the bullet and save for the box of war and since I live in chicago I can pick one up at CME the only issue is cash flow. Thanks for the help and anyone ib chi town interested In purchasing a les paul or selling a used box of war? Again thanks and cheers.

    [Cheers, Clark! - Bjorn]

  144. Clark says:

    Hey Bjorne hope your doin well, sold the les Paul and I now have the box of war and the more I play it the more I’m blown away. Also you check out the Kelley 6 stage phaser it’s the best phaser and extremely versatile and so organic sounding. Btw if you ever go to the states let me know ahead of time and I can work out getting you a buddy pass since my parents work for united. Btw your website is starting to make noise and get referenced In guitar magazines. So you know your doing something right.

    [Glad the BoW worked out. Great pedal indeed! - Bjorn]

  145. Clark says:

    Hey Bjorne I just wanted to let you know that your website is beginning to make some real noise in the guitar world. It’s being named dropped in a few guitar magazines. Which means you know it’s well done and informative. Keep it up!!!!!!

    [Thanks! Glad to know my work is being appreciated. I enjoy writing an talking to all of you every single day :) Cheers! - Bjorn]

  146. clark says:

    Quick question, I know you havent used the caprid yourself but do you think that would be better than the box ofwar gdnask tones? The box of war is really smooth like his tone for gdnask. But the caprid is a rams head clone and he used the p-1 which is a rams head. So I’m thinking it might be slightly closer but I can get pretty close with the BOW. To the other readers/posters. Do you think the caprid is better or equal than the BOW? I know its a different beast but I feel they are similar enough to make a compatible comparison.

    [The ram's head and early Sovteks are very different. While the ram's head has a bright and aggressive tone, the Sovteks are much darker with lots of mid range and lower end. You can very well use both to cover each other's territory but personally I'd go for a ram's head for David's Animals-Final Cut and Gdansk tones. - Bjorn]

  147. clark says:

    Thanks, your the shit dude! If I evee visit norway ill make it a point to go when ur band has a gig to check it out. Btw the updated buyers gear guide is awesome. Could u add the deja vibe pedal, the one whete you control it by rocking the expression pedal. I feel it sounds slightly different/better than the other version. And would you say the BOW is smoother than the caprid? Cause his tone is super smooth for a rams head. And sorry for posting so much, I feel I’m inches from my tone goal so I’m trying run it into the end zone, american metaphor for ya. And thanks again. We all owe you a debt of gratitude, you should be a manager at a guitar store. You know thw products and how to treat people even when you havr play 50 questions.

    [Hi Clark! Thanks for your kind words! The Caprid and BoW are two different Muffs so you can't really compared them. Both serve different purposes so it depends on what tones you're looking for :) - Bjorn]

  148. Manuel says:

    Hey there Bjorn! Since you’re a true master talking about tone, I have a question: I just bought the EHX Bass Big Muff Pi (as you suggest some days ago) and it sounds great, it’s my first muff and I’m really happy with it, sound huge and awesome. My confusion is when I try to placing it in my pedalboard, I’m going to list my pedals and order:

    - TC Electronic Polytune
    - Dunlop Cry Baby (Classic One)
    - TC Electronic Nova Drive
    - EHX BBM
    - TC Electronic Flashback Delay

    In this setting I use to keep my Overdrive (Nova Drive) always ON with a clean overdrive (VOX AC15 Normal Channel about to crank), but I’m noticing that when I combine it with the Muff, the Muff sound get too bright and rusty loosing a little bit the bottom big sound that it have. I tried placing the Muff before the Overdrive but then the Muff sound become muddy and the bright sound get lost.

    What would be your suggestion about how to use this pedals in my pedalboard? I want to use it for my lead sound and sometimes to make some rhythm parts like QOTSA.

    Thanks a lot for your help!

    [I wouldn't use the Muff with the Nova OD. The OD is based on a Tube Screamer, with lots of mid range and a bit of a low end roll off. This makes the Muff sound thin and a bit flat. Just as you describe. I'd use the Muff alone and if you need a bit more punch, increase the volume and gain on the pedal. Or, get a transparent booster like the BD2 or TC Spark Booster. Those works much better with Big Muffs. - Bjorn]

  149. Keith Clarke says:

    Hey Bjorn, I cannot even begin to count the number of times I’ve already read the updated Muff guide, and every time I read it, I realize just how lucky I was to get a brand new Musket for a total of $135.00. First, you give it a 10/10, and even though I have different tastes than many, I couldn’t agree more with your score. The Focus, is perhaps the finest knob ever employed on a Muffish pedal, and I can make it sound huge on a five watt amp! But the real magic starts when I crank those Webers up with my Reeves, and at 70% fuzz, or less, I’m nailing Animals, but at 100%, and a little EQ tweaking I can get AC/DC, IOMMI, EDWARD VAN, or a very authentic STRANGLEHOLD!, Page, Beck Gibbons, you name ‘em, and I can get them. Once I get that Throbak, ( damn my back, or I’d have had it 3 weeks ago!), I don’t think I’ll find any of my favorites I can’t cover to at least close enough to play them live! Even Di Meola, Egyptian Danza will sound great as soon as Tom gets the ’68 Les paul finished. And I’m having Lindy put a set of his amazing Tele sized P-90′s in my thinline Tele with the short Gibson scale neck. I bet it will get a decent Sheraton, or similar semi hollow bodied P-90 loaded guitar. It’s got a perfect neck, and Rosewood board, Alder body, and CTS pots, fender vintage 3 position switch, and Jack, and all Vintage style wiring already, but those Duncan Design pups, are toi got, and cheesy sounding. P-90s, will make that Thinline into a singing Frankenstein! Think I’ve got a good idea, since the short scale will never give it that Tele Twang? I think it sould be awesome for One of the Days, and some of the hard rocking, and lap zteel stuff!
    Okay, too long alread.
    Peace, Love, and Gilmourish, Keith, the POSTECUTIONER!

    [I think you have a severe case of GAS my friend :) - Bjorn]

  150. david says:

    Basic Audio’s Tri-Ram and Stomp Under Foot’s Civil War (and others by them) should be on the list.

    [Send them to me and I'll make a review :) - Bjorn]

  151. Adam Smith says:

    Thanks for compiling this list. You should also check out the White Russian made by Robot Factory (martoneaudio.com). That thing really pushes air, even through a solid state amp. It is also extremely versatile.

    [Thanks for the tip! Never heard of that one. I'll check it out! - Bjorn]

  152. Keith Clarke says:

    Well I wonder how I developed my serious GAS problem? Or better yet, from whom did I inherit it?
    Thanks alot Bjorn, The POSTECUTIONER!

    [Beats me... :) - Bjorn]

  153. clark says:

    How are you?

    Ill keep it quick, how do you think the electronic orange pig hoof (both vers ons), compare with the wren and cuff caprid? Thanks.

    [Never tried the Caprid, so I can't tell for sure. Based on what I've read and heard I think the red Pig Hoof is a bit more aggressive with more gain and lower end, while the yellow pig Hoof is on the lighter side. - Bjorn]

  154. Eric Nyberg says:

    I recommend the Skreddy P19. I’ve had it for quite some time now and it suits my Wall tones very well. It has a built in mid “hump” boost and also takes some cues from Cornish as well.

    [Still waiting to try that one. - Bjorn]

  155. Dave Yackaboskie says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    Really like your reviews. I always look forward to reading them and checking out the videos that go along with them. That’s such a great way to do a review. Actually bought a few pedals based on your reviews, one of which is the Wren and Cuff Box of War. I love it. Do you ever plan to try the Wren and Cuff Caprid, and have you ever tried the Arc Effects Big Green? I’d be curious to hear your take on those two. After actually trying the pedals based on your reviews my opinions are very similar to yours, so that is why I trust what you have to say about any product you review.
    Well take care, you do a great service to the music community with your site, Thank You for what you do.

    Dave

    [Thanks for your kind words, Dave! Glad you enjoy my site :) I hope to be reviewing the Big Green soon. There's also a couple of other Muff clones coming up. - Bjorn]

  156. Clark says:

    Hope your doing great.

    The Caprid is ridiculously good, its my favorite pedal. I was fortunate enough to get a original chandler tube drive used for a really good price. I am definitely going to return the box of war and get a pig hoof since i realized that is the tone i like and prefer (animals being my favorite album and gnask favorite tones, lol as you know this already from thousands of comments), and i feel and hear it cuts through the mix better than a sovtek. I was wondering which pedal you would recommend of the two pig hoofs to be boosted by the tube driver, I understand the yellow label has less lower end and gain so that generally will make it easier to tame, and does either have a more boosted mid range and presence? Thanks best wishes, cheers.

    [The yellow is definitely the best to boost. It is tweaked for that in mind with less gain and lower end. Alone it might sound a bit modest.Especially compared to the red label or Caprid but with a booster I think it surpasses both. It blends well with the booster and gets nicely compressed and smooth. The Tube Driver can be a bit tricky for boost but if it works out with the Caprid then it will work nicely with the yellow Hoof as well. - Bjorn]

  157. Clark says:

    Sorry to comment again but i forgot to ask if either of the hoofs has a good wall of sound thing goin on to the tone. Thanks again.

    [See my reply below :) - Bjorn]

  158. Clark says:

    Hey Bjorne have you tried or heard about basic audios tri/ram? You should do a demo and add it in to this page, when you get the time of course. From I have seen and heard it seems to be a good clone of both for 200 USD.

    [Looks very promising! I haven't tried it though but I'll check it out :) - Bjorn]

  159. D auchterlonie says:

    Hi Bjorne and all, after much thought I have ordered a byoc large beaver, now I just have to make it, will be fun I guess. I couple of mouths ago bought an digitech ipb 10 programable pedal board, awesome, unlimited user saves and ease of use via an iPad,
    Worth the money works well with boosters. The big muff pedal on the board sound like the current issue, so not good, thanks for a great forum and I love the sound that airbag had, cheers from david

    [Thanks David! I think you'll be very pleased with the LB :) - Bjorn]

  160. Clark says:

    Hey bjorn i have been reading about gilmour’s muffs and seeing what modifications were made to them. Do you know if any of the muffs like the p-1, p-2 or the rams head were modded to add more mids? Thanks, cheers.

    [Not to my knowledge no. As far as the sources goes, all of his ram's heads and the P1 were modified and designed to sound like a ram's head he got around 1975-76. None of these has much mid range. The P2 is stock after Cornish' specifications and it has considerably more mid range than the typical ram's head. More like the early Sovteks. - Bjorn]

  161. gearhead64 says:

    Have you ever tested the moose pie rams head pedal? if so how did it fair?

    [Nope. - Bjorn]

  162. DonC says:

    Great write up Bjorn. Based on your reviews, I picked up an Iron Bell and I could not be happier with it! Now, I am looking too add another muff or fuzz to expand my tonal possibilities even further. I have my eye on the BYOC Large Beaver, Musket, or ED Pig Hoof. Which would have the least amount of tonal overlap with the Iron Bell? Or is there another you may recommend? I play Gilmour from mostly DSoM forward as well as Texas blues and some hard rock. Any thoughts?

    [The Musket is somewhat similar to the Iron Bell so I'd go for either the LB or Pig Hoof. Personally I swear by the Pig Hoof on my board. - Bjorn]

  163. Brad W says:

    Bjorn,

    Plans to review the Catalinbread Manx Laughton? Above you surmised from clips that it sounded based on a sovtek, but it is meant to be more of a rams head. In any case, it has a baxandall eq that is supposed to give a lot of tonal variety.

    I have a green russian sovtek, and want a pedal friendly rams clone but don’t want to wait 9 months for a pig hoof. I’m really leaning towards the Catalinbread, but most demos use it for high gain sludgy stuff…

    thoughts on this clip, (about 6:03 in)?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gL_ScH5BMt8

    Thanks!
    Brad

    [Ok, thanks for the info Brad. I can hear from Brett's clip that it definitely has that ram's head quality. I haven't tried it so I can't really comment on it but judging buy the clips alone, it sounds like it has a bit too much gain for my taste, which I don't really think suits a ram's head. I might be mistaken though. - Bjorn]

  164. DonC says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    I wanted to give a quick shout out to Scott over at Axe and You Shall Receive. I spoke to him about a BYOC Rams Head Large Beaver and he could not be a better merchant to deal with. It cost me a bit more to have the Beaver shipped from Canada, but it’s worth it. If anyone needs a BYOC of any type, Axe and You Shall Receive is the place to go in my opinion.

    With the Large Beaver, the Iron Bell, and the Rook as my core pedals, I am getting TONS of great tones. Lot’s of David-type tones, of course – but the flexibility of my setup is helping me find my own as well. Cheers, and keep up the great work and rock on!

    Don

    [Well said, Don! BOYC and Scott at AAYSR are great guys offering excellent customer service. - Bjorn]

  165. Brad says:

    Bjorn,

    Thanks for your answer about the Manx Laughton. It definitely sounds high gain, but I did notice on Brett’s Comf. Numb clip he has the gain on the pedal maxed. I would love for you to be able to review this one, as it seems possible that it could cover a lot of Gilmour ground with the Baxandall Tone control. I downloaded the manual and they have setting suggestions for both triangle and ram’s head muffs. Maybe they’d let you review that and the Echorec together?

    Thanks,
    Brad

    [I'll check it out :) - Bjorn]

  166. Lasse says:

    Hi Bjorn

    I really enjoy reading the articles on your site, and it has helped me a lot. I am an absolute beginner when it comes to guitar playing, and I could use a bit of advice on the settings of my (very limited) gear…

    My Strat is a 70′s player MIM with Texas Custom pickups, and I am only running it through a Bass Big Muff and nothing else, that is the only pedal I own right now (I’m new, and on a budget!)… My amplifier is nothing to write home about either. It is a very affordable transistor amp (Roland Cube 20), but I’m looking to upgrade it to a Fender Blues Junior once I can afford it.

    I could use some advice on how to get as close as possible to Delecate’ish sound, with the limited gear that I have right now. I have tried some different settings on the Muff, but I can’t seem to get anywhere near the sound I want (I really have no idea what I’m doing when I’m turning the knobs TBH :-)… If you could suggest some settings, I would very much appreciate it. Like tone/volume on the Strat, and which pickup to use? I use to play through the neck pickup, but I don’t know if thats the one to go for? Also settings on the Muff and EQ on the Amp maybe. I’m not playing too loud btw., because my neighbors don’t seem to appreciate my Comfortably Numb solo jam as much as I do :D.

    Thanks for this awesome site and I hope you can give me some advice.

    [Hi Lasse. Obviously, getting close to certain tones would require a bit more effects but the important thing is to get the most out of your guitar and amp. With that you should be able to set up a great basis for your Muff and future purchases. It's hard not to go in detail so please read through these features and let me know if you need more help. See this for some amp set up tips and this one for Big Muff tone tips. I also recommend checking out the Tone feature for some general tone tips. - Bjorn]

  167. Michael says:

    Have you ever tried one of the GGG Big Muff clones? I was going to buy a Ram’s head from them, but I can’t find much about it, so I also have my eye on the BYOC one.

    [Nope. Haven't seen much reviews either... - Bjorn]

  168. Keith says:

    Hey Bjorn, I seem to be missing a couple of posts. I had posted right after Cillian in guitars, a greeting, with some talk about finishing my board, but can’t find it. I’m sure it was there, or at the end of fuzz, as there seem to be two missing. No Big deal, but I would like to see them. Is there a way for me to pull up my posts from the last two weeks?
    Thanks buddy, K~

    [Hi Keith! I posted a note on Facebook yesterday... I had some issues with posts from the 24th and 25th this month being marked as spam when I tried to approve them. Seems have been a bug but my hosts didn't manage to fix it so the posts are deleted. I'm very sorry. - Bjorn]

  169. Andrew says:

    What would you say the best Muff or Muff Clone is when using PAF type pickups? I have Lindy Fralins (MIK Epi Dot), Dimarzio 36 Anniversary (MIK Epi Goldtop LP), Sheptone AB Customs (MICz, Epi LP), Reilander Reverands (’78 Gibson ES 335), Reilander Mudbuckers (MIM Strat), Wolfetones (MIK LP) and Duncan Antiquitys (???). I also have some P90 equipped guitars and finally a MIM Tele with a classic style Jerry Donahue and one guitar (only one!, MIM Strat) with Texas Special style single coil strat pickups. I’m quite a ways from the classic Gilmour sound, I admit, although he did use P90s to amazing effect on some songs. At this point I’m leaning toward the Large Beaver or maybe the Big Muff Pi with Tone Wicker.
    Amps – I have two right now: 1) a 2008 reissue Vox AC30 and 2) a boutique rebuilt to 59 specs., point to point Fender Bassman. I’ve hot-rodded each with Weber speakers (celestion versions and Jensen styles respectively).
    I really don’t need to have an exact copy of Gilmour. I’d probably prefer to have my own sound. So I’m thinking I’ll grab a reissue Pi Wicker for $60.00 CAD and experiment.
    I have a great Crowther Hotcake pedal that I use now, but I’ve always admired the Gilmour sound.

    [The thing with humbuckers and Muff is that you often end up with something closer to Sabbath than Gilmour. The Muff has a lot of gain, which can be hard to tame with humbuckers. Anyway, I prefer the triangle model. It works especially well with PAFs and P90s due to it's lower gain and slight mid range boost. The Wicker has more gain but the additional EQ/tone switch might make it easier to match it with buckers. - Bjorn]

  170. Keith says:

    I have a question for Andrew from the previous post. I’m a close friend of Lindy Fralin, and lost my ’71 ES 335 TD a few years back, and have often thought of getting an Epi dot, and replacing the tuners, all the pots, and switch, and wiring, and installing Fralin “Real PAFs”. How does the guitar play and sound with the Fralins? I miss my 335, but not willing to spend 3 grand on anything Gibson builds these days! Your opinion would be appreciated.
    Peace, Love, and Gilmourish, THE POSTECUTIONER

  171. Brad says:

    Bjorn,

    I went ahead and bought the Catalinbread Manx Loaghton on the strength of what I heard in the Brett Kingman clip. Here are my impressions so far…

    Brett’s video makes the pedal sound very high gain. However, he does have the sustain maxed. Also, I suspect he has relatively hot single coils in that strat. With my CS69 set, I can’t get quite the level of saturation he has in the video on the bridge pickup, but just the right amount! I basically max the gain for a song like “Young Lust” and it’s spot on. roll back to about 2-3 oclock for something like the “Mother” solo. So players with the SD SSL-5 in the bridge might find themselves rolling back the sustain knob more if they want to get a little more “authentic” bite and less compression/gain, but there’s no doubt the sustain knob can accomodate less gainy tones, too.

    There is PLENTY of volume in the pedal, so the level knob can really help push those tubes and get the muff into the range where it really sings. Also sounds decent at lower levels.

    Roll back the volume knob, and you get really nice rich OD tones. I found it perfect for playing “Time” where I could roll back the volume for the rhythm, then turn it up and step on the delay for the solo.

    In scientific terms, this thing sounds f*ing amazing! I have barely scratched the surface of what this baxandall tone stack can do. I have to admit, when I put it on the “Triangle” settings in the manual, it sounded harsh to me, more trebly, and more muddy. However, I’ve never had a triangle, and not really sure what I should be listening for, and perhaps this setting would sound great in a full band mix. However, dialling in the “Rams Head” settings in the manual is where I’ve spent most of my time, and the pedal is just glorious sounding.

    Now, a little context. The only muff I’ve ever owned, before now, is my bubble font sovtek green russian. Great pedal. However, I always wondered what I was missing not trying out a rams head. Comparing the two, it’s remarkable how different and yet how similar these different circuits can be. For “The Wall” tones, it’s clear the rams head is just IT. The notes have a thick, yet hollow sound, which sounds like a contradiction. I love it. Whereas the great russian sounds just great almost wherever you set the knobs, the RH circuit is a little more finicky in how you dial it in, but the sound is edgier, and more interesting.

    Another observation — the Green Russian has amazing string clarity and a tight bottom, so when you play something like the intro to “Cherub Rock” by Smashing Pumpkins, it sounds great. When I try to play that intro where I have the manx set for my DG lead tone, things get muddy. However, I’m sure one could dial in a smoother setting for that kind of application with the versatility of the EQ.

    Sorry this was so long! There were not a lot of lower gain clips of this pedal on the interwebs, so I wanted to report back to those who might be considering the Manx for Rams Head Gilmour tones…do it without hesitation!

    Cheers,
    Brad

    [Thanks a lot for the review, Brad! I need to check out this pedal :) - Bjorn]

  172. Andrew says:

    Keith:

    You are talking to someone who has essentially made a business of hot rodding MIK Epis in a big way. That said, I have a 1978 Gibson ES335 TD though as well as a really nice Limited Edition MIK Dot. The latter has Fralins and the former a locally handwould PAF (the Gibson Tarbacks were in my view horrible. I kept the pots and electronics though, installed a Bigsby). The 335 feels and smells quite like a old style Gibson. It’s very nice to play, due to the unique construction of the fretboard (classic Gibson). There is a huge difference in feel, smell etc. between that and my Dot. The Dot seems a little blockier (a bit of a baseball style neck, fairly fat) and, well, cheaper. But the sound? The Dot is absolutely killer, having that vintage sound with the amazing Fralins. There are certainly tradeoffs in buying MIK Epis. Even the amazing ones are not quite like Gibsons in many ways. They are fantastic though, nonetheless. Hope this helps!

  173. Matt says:

    Bjorn,

    congratulations on an exellent site! As devoted Gilmour fan and disciple to his sound I was striving for some BUDGET alternatives for reaching this goal. And my search was of course influenced by your reviews.

    I compared the following muffs/clones myself now (and this might be useful for some of the readers as well):
    - Little Big Muff
    - Bass Big Muff
    - Mooer Triangle Buff

    Setup was my stock 1969 Strat, a Boss BD2 as Booster behind the Muffs and a Mooer ElecLady into a Fender Pro Junior (sound a little raunchier and more british than my Deluxe Reverb and takes pedals pretty well due to EL84s and a 10″ speaker). Testing was done at more than bedroom level.
    NOTE: The volume setting on the Muff that “boosts” the BD2 will have a HUGE!!! impact on the overall sound. Higher volume setting on the muff will result in a fatter sound, even if you keep the overall level low with the BD2!

    Little Big Muff:
    Ok, let’s put this straight: If you want Gilmour – forget about it! This Muff is the cheapest of the three and sounds the least like you would wish. The sound is always either muffled or too bright, lacks mids. The pedal has a high level of compression and kills dynamics as you play which in fact bothers me most. The BD2 couldn’t help here. The Little Big Muff is more a “modern style” muff (as is the NYC Big Muff Reissue) but has no real reassemblance to Gilmour tone.

    Bass Big Muff:
    This Muff sounds WAY better than the Little Big Muff. The sound is less compressed, leaving space for dynamics. The characteristic thing about this pedal is its pronounced midrange. It will give you authentic PULSE tones, BUT ONLY combined with the BD2 that adds some sparkle, gain and clears up the sound. I didn’t like it too much as a stand alone pedal. In combination with the DB2 you get instant “Sorrow” sound from the PULSE. It sings, it has a lot of sustain when boosted and the midrange will let it cut through the mix. Without the DB2 it sounds a little dull and doesn’t have so much sustain as you would expect. The Bass Boost is a great feature to warm up your sound. I guess I’ll keep it for the PULSE tone.

    Mooer Triangle Buff:
    Out of the three this is just a little pricier (79€) compared to the Bass Big Muff (66 €) and the Little Big Muff (52 €). I was really surprised that it sound so different. It sound way more transparent than the EHX-models, has freqency-wise a little more of everything, more gain and sounds the most balanced. It sounds fatter than Bass Big Muff and the most authentic sound (NOTE: I’ve never compared an original Triangle Muff). It’s by far the best stand alone pedal, nailing Wall pretty much. Huge sound in a tiny pedal! It is very dynamic, the best tones with settings sustain at 70% and tone around 50% (it sounds darker than a ram’s head). Again, the volume knob has a huge impact on the sound. The more volume, the fatter it gets. The only drawback: it didn’t match the BD2 as well as the Bass Big Muff did. The sound didn’t change too much and I have made the experience that octave tones (like the “Sorrow” intro) tend to get a little muddy with the DB2. But I guess this will be ok with a little more trying and tweaking. Nevertheless, the Mooer by far outruns the EHX models. This is definately a keeper!

    A little comment on the ElecLady:
    It really gets close to the Electric Mistress, though it sounds thinner. And it tends to suck some of the sustain when put behind the muff. Favorite settings here (o’clock): color 8:30, rate: 2:30, range: off, mode normal. Nice pedal for the money.

    AGAIN: I was looking for “cheap” BUDGET solutions. Of course, there are better pedals available, but maybe hard to get here in Europe. Anyway, I have orderer a Pig Hoof last week. Guys, Jan is really nice and fast with his answers, but the waiting list for orders is about 12 months long. Mine will be delivered in June 2014…

    Maybe this helps some of you guys to get “your” sound at a reaonable price. I’m looking forward to repeat this review with my VOX AC15 and Deluxe Reverb.

    [Hi Matt! Thanks a lot for the review! Great stuff! The three pedals are indeed very different from each other covering different eras in the Muff history. Personally I think the Bass Muff is the best and most authentic sounding of the three, nailing that early 90s Sovtek tone pretty well. The Mooer is OK but I think there are better triangle clones out there like the Large Beaver. As you also point out, it all depends on the setup you use the pedals with. Thanks! - Bjorn]

  174. Gabe says:

    Hey Bjorn, I have a question, the last few times Gilmour has performed C Numb live, the solos are listed as p-1, which I characterize as very squished, not as boomy, and overall a very tight muff sound, and I love it. Now, you said its off a ram’s head clone, which the Pig’s Hoof is as well. My question is, which of the clones is going to get me closest to that C Numb live sound from Gdasnk and his appearance with Roger at O2? It seems to be very different from the Muff sound of anything on the Wall album. Thanks!

    [Sorry for my late reply. You have to remember that an album version is often not a good or honest reference for the actual sound because the result is created by different mics, mic placement, the actual guitar and amp and all kinds of studio trickery. It doesn't compare to a live setup... even when it's recorded like Gdansk. Apparently, David used the Muff the P1 was based on, for the recording of Wall and Comf Numb so there should be that big of a difference to the actual sound. My best tip on getting as close as possible, given that you have about the same rig, is either the Pig Hoof or the Buffalo Ram's Head. - Bjorn]

  175. Matteo says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    you should really check out the “Caprid”, a Ram’s Head clone by Wren and Cuff, and maybe consider it for a review! Personally I find it accurate in replicating those David classic tones from 77-83

    Cheers!

    Matteo

    [Yep, need to check out that one. - Bjorn]

  176. Scott says:

    Dear Bjorn,

    Thanks for all ur amazing contributions! Really enjoy reading ur reviews!

    Am thinking on getting the new Mojo Hand BMP-1 or the Pompeii pedal, wondering if you have tried it yet and would love to hear your review on them before i decide to get them or not.

    I cant decide on which Russian Green Muff clone i should get. There’s the Wren & Cuff Tall font Russian, Stomp under Foot green Russian, Arc Effect big green pi, JAM red muck and the Mojo Hand BMP-1.

    Could you give me some advice on them? Thanks in advance Bjorn! =)

    [Thanks for your kind words, Scott! Hard to pick a favourite but I think either the WC Box of War or the BMP-1. - Bjorn]

  177. Massimiliano says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    I have a question on big muffs: I play hard rock, somewhere between Ritchie Blackmore and Michael Schenker (well, in the intentions…) in terms of style and sound. Now, in my pedalboard I would like to add a pedal that covers a specific aspect: high-gain, smooth lead tone with lots of sustain. Think of the most recent Blackmore (see the second part of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHEKWURIT-o, or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzR4TiD0rus). However, he achieves it by mixing the overdriven sound with a synth patch for brass, which is too complex and expensive for me to reproduce. Schenker also has these smooth tones, and Gilmour (or Eric Johnson) as well. They each get there from a different angle.
    The question is this: I have been listening to your demo of the Musket, which I adore. At the same time, all other demos on the internet for that pedal focus on that grungy/fuzzy strumming that I am really very far away from, so wanted to ask your opinion whether I would be better off with one of the muffs (and which one – is the Musket the best option?) or if I should consider something else, like for example the Golden Cello. As you have tried a lot more of these pedals than I have, your opinion would be really appreciated.

    Best,
    Massimiliano

    [Hi Massimiliano! Achieving specific tones depends equally on your amp and guitar. It's the combination that produce the tone. Not the pedal alone. Please let me know what amp and guitar/pickups you have and I'll try to help :) - Bjorn]

  178. Massimiliano says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    this would be the signal chain (I am simplyfing because the rig as a whole includes loopers, midi control, etc):

    Strats (PU vary, from vintagey ’50 to Seymour Duncan QPs, but generally lower output SC) into the pedal I am chasing (and I could add a booster like a Jauernig Luxury Drive after it as you suggest), and from there into a THD Bivalve 30 (pure class A with ECC83s in the pre and KT88s in the power section, a lot of headroom and LOUD for 30 watts), into a Palmer PDI-03 for power soak and speaker sim, and at that point into a Strymon Timeline for delay and a Rocktron Intellifex XL for anything else (chorus, reverb, pitch shift, etc), into recording unit or snake for PA. No cabs in this config, so can run the amp at the volume I like (usually around 1-3PM, without master volume) to cook the power tubes and still put the delay at the very end of the chain as if it was an insert on the mixing desk.

    Massimiliano

    [Sorry for my late reply, Massimiliano. You got a lot of power and gain from your amps but the pedal you describe is best used on a clean amp or slightly overdriven one, I think... as most high gain pedals do. The Musket is a very versatile Big Muff. So is the Iron Bell from Mojo Hand. Still, they are Big Muffs and I'm not sure you want that for the genres you want to cover. Sounds to me that you want and need something versatile like a Boss DS1 (Analogman), RAT or Dark Matter. You should also check out the Fulltone OCD. - Bjorn]

  179. Marco Piola says:

    Hi there.
    The review is awesome, really appreciated :-)
    I have one question for you.
    What do you think about the italian handmade pedals Custom Muff and Natural Drive mkII, both made by CostaLab?
    Thank you very much in advance!!!

    Marco

    [Love them! Check out my review of the Custom Muff here and the Natural Drive here. - Bjorn]

  180. Per Tanderup says:

    Hey You …
    I built a BYOC large beaver partly because of your favorable reviews. You have also stated that tubescreamers are unsuitable for boosting your Muff type distortion. I think there is one exception to that. I built a BYOC OD2 which is basically a hot rodded tubescreamer and went for the MosFet version (should take it into Fulltone territory – I’m told) and guess what ? The boost section sounds awesome after the large beaver muff. Hope you find this interesting – try it out
    Cheers

    [Thanks for the tip! - Bjorn]

  181. Keith says:

    Hey Bjorn, and others, There’s a new Muff on the horizon, and feel I can now disclose some info. My friend Will, contacted reverse engineering, and all around pedal guru Stuart Castledine,( The genius behind the 100% correct non master volume CSPB, availible only from Macari’s.), about doing his best to recreate the famous ’73 #1 Ram’s Head owned by DG. He took the job in hand, and is making 20 of them. As Bjorn pointed out to me, no ond really knows what mods were done to the #1, so reverse engineering is technically impossible, but Stuart has some Magic, and a HUGE MUFF, a big muff with every concieveable resistor, transistor, cap, and combination of each circuit available at the flip of numerous switches. So, listening to Animals, and everything the pedal was known to be used on, he’s doing it by ear. And at a price he quoted me, £159, it’s not overly expensive for what you will get. The pedals aren’t ready, but when he’s close, I’ll make sure to let everyone know. He is struggling for the perfect name, a few of which I suggested, and one in particular I hope he goes with. I have seen the mock up, with the font he’s using, and looks wise, you’ll love tbe vintage look,( You can Thank Will Biwden for the idea, the colors, and design!), but I am receiving his drop in 66-67 Italian Thomas organ, Vox drop in kit, that he added a reversing switch for instant Seagull, and a output resistor to make it friendly with being in front of a FuzzFace. The great thing is, these fuzz friendly mods ruin the seagull effect, so he made it so the fuzz friendly circuit cuts out, when you toggle the reverse switch! Why didn’t anyone think of this before. He actually winds his own Halo inductors, and ICAR style pots, for absolute authenticity to the most sought after wah ever made! I’m betting his Muff will be as close as you’ll ever get to David’s #1 ’73 Ram’s Head.
    Peace, Uncle Ebb

  182. Roger Sartori says:

    There’s this guy in Brazil who makes very nice copies of boutique pedals. Any pedal you want for a very reasonable price, less than USD100 each. I have a few and I like them a lot. I wish you could test some of them, Bjorn. There are all Big Muff models: civil war, green russian, ram’s head… MXR Dynacomp, MXR Phaser 45 and 90, Univibe, OCD, Coloursound and others. Very well built and they sound amazing to me. I like my ram’s head as much as the Top Tone DG-1. “Andy Effect” is his brand. This is my tip for all brazilian guys who appreciate your website.

    [Thanks for the tip! I'll check it out. - Bjorn]

  183. Paul says:

    Hey Bjorn,
    Great article, as always. Your choice of pedals for DG’s tone is spot-on, which is why I’m asking for your help. I own a solid state amp and a HSH guitar and I was wondering if there are any Big Muffs that I can use with my setup to achieve the Meddle – Final Cut era sound. I’d also like to buy a fuzz for other classic rock sounds, but again I’m not sure if they could work together. If you don’t think that what I ask of you is possible, are there any distortion pedals that could replace a Big Muff and a fuzz?
    Thanks :)

    [Hi Paul! Given your setup I think your best choice would either be a distortion, like a RAT, or one of the more versatile Big Muffs like the Musket or Iron Bell. Both of these will give you a classic Big Muff tone but they suit different setups than most other Muffs and they also double nicely for other genres. - Bjorn]

  184. didi says:

    Hello Bjorn,

    Great website, thank you so much for sharing all this info with us! Your archive is similar to gilmour’s tone: huge :-)

    I’m planning to purchase a large beaver to combine /w a xotic RC booster (witch should be similar to the coloursound/throbak boosters). Amp is a vox ac30cc (I know, not your favorite :-).
    How does this large beaver respond to an ac30? I’m thinking of the ram’s head version.

    Also looking forward to your upcoming delay section in the buyer’s guide!

    Again: thx again for all this work!

    Best,
    didi

    [Thanks for your kind words! The RC is a clean booster, so the AC would perhaps be closer to the Colorsound/Throbak. Anyway, Muffs goes very well with the AC30. It's a fairly bright amp so you might need to roll down the tone a bit on your Muff but try different settings and see what suits your ear :) - Bjorn]

  185. Roger Sartori says:

    Bjorn, can you name all the effects David used to get that marvelous tone on “on the turning away” from Delicate tour? Was that sound coming only from the Ram’s Head or was it superboosted with the Boss MZ?? Thanks for that wonderful site as always!

    [He did a lot of changes throughout that tour so it's hard to tell but from what I can hear from listening to Delicate I would assume he's using the ram's head Muff, possibly boosted by either the TC booster or the Mesa Boogie head (although I think this was used with the HM2 exclusively) with Boss CE2 and delay. The 1987-90 tour isn't as well documented as the Division Bell tour and with all the changes I can't give you straight up answer. - Bjorn]

  186. Brian S says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    Just wanted to let you know that Maxon is coming out with 7 new fuzz pedals, one being the FEA10 Fuzz Elements – Earth, which is supposed to mimic a Ram’s Head. It sounds rather close the Triangle as demoed by Godlyke. They come out next week as shown on the Maxon website.

    Thanks again for being the great player and resource that you are,

    Brian

    [Thanks for the tip, Brian! I'll check it out :) - Bjorn]

  187. Julius says:

    Hi Bjorn!
    I wanted to ask you about overdrives: do you usually use them alone or with a clean boost in front or after them. Thanks!! :)

    [I use them alone. That is, if it's set up for overdrive with a fair amount of gain. Still, there's no reason why you can't blend in a booster for more tone and character or for more gain for solos etc. - Bjorn]

  188. pranit24 says:

    Hi,

    I recently ordered a SSL 5 pup and a BYOC Large beaver(Ram’s head specs) to get started with the tone quest. I am wondering if the big muff would work properly with my amp. The amp I am using is VOX VT20+ which is supposed to be a hybrid modelling amp. It is not a full tube amp. I am not sure how it will respond to the Large beaver. Do you have any idea as to what needs to be done to get the best out of it?

    [Never tried the amp my self so I can't really comment on that. On a general note, Big Muffs and vintage style fuzz pedals can often sound a bit too aggressive and bright on solid state amps and smaller setups. They were initially designed for loud tube amps and that should be taken into consideration when buying one. If you have problems with then try setting your amp as neutral as possible and use a clean booster, like a Boss BD2 with the Muff to smooth out some of the sometimes harsh overtones. See this feature for more tips. - Bjorn]

  189. Eric Nyberg says:

    Hey Bjorn what are your impressions of the Skreddy p19 so far?

    [Love it! I'll have a review up but probably not until early January... - Bjorn]

  190. Keith says:

    So Bjorn, is the 1979 album they refer to on the Skreddy sites P-19 advertisement The Wall? Is it a Ram’s Head cloned to sound like DGs #1? I don’t keep up with much of the pre-reviewed stuff, unless it’s from a tried, and true builder I have experience, or some kind of relationship with. Just curious, it does have the Animals font, which Stu fooled around with before settling on the V2, in the Pi font.
    Peace my friend, and to all of you, Keith

    [I'll cover all of this in the upcoming review but yes, the album is The Wall. The pedal is not meant to be a replica or clone of the #1 but rather the tone you hear on the album, which is quite different to just hearing the pedal through a Hiwatt. - Bjorn]

  191. Cooper says:

    Hey Bjorn, Thanx for all the help in answering my previous questions, I’ve recently purchased the Laney Cub 15 stack from your recommendations. I have an 2009 American Standard Strat. Black of course w/ a maple neck. I’m having the Dallen Echos Pups installed this week. I was hoping you could point me in the right direction w/ effects that best suit the Comfortably numb solo w/ my current set-up, playing @ bedroom levels. Thanx Cooper

    [Hi Cooper! Depends on what tones you want but the setup handles most pedals very well. For a versatile approach I'd go for a Rat as the main distortion and perhaps a Boss BD2 for boost and overdrive. A more authentic way to go would be a Big Muff, like the Pig Hoof or the easier to get Bass Big Muff Pi from Electro Harmonix with a Buffalo Powerbooster or ThroBak Powerboost. As for modulation, I'd go for an Electric Mistress like the Mooer ElecLady or a chorus, like the MXR Analog Chorus. Any delay would do but check out the excellent TC Electronics Flashback. Hope this helps! - Bjorn]

  192. Jerome Whitson says:

    Bjorn,
    can’t wait for your writeup on the Skreddy P19. I was amazed that it was so easy to dial in the Wall tones. It seems like he included all the post production mixing and mastering from the album into the pedal. Pretty impressive. Ive never heard a muff sing and soar and be that quiet!

    I have been experimenting, using a BK Tube Driver after it in boost mode giving me that Pulse tone, and even tried it with an SS-3 set to light/med drive. The low end of that ss-3 gets you into thunderous lows — civil war’ish

    pretty perfect stacked with other pedals(starts to sound more ‘cornish’.. seems his muffs are like a muff, compressor, tube driver, etc all in one box. lol).

    Great on its own as well. Hope you do some stacked clips!!!! and hope you are doing well!!
    Regards,
    Jerome

    [Agree with your observations here, Jerome. The review will be up by this weekend. - Bjorn]

  193. Brandon says:

    Dear Bjorn,

    Yours is easily the coolest most comprehensive and informative tone resource I have ever seen. Thank you so much for everything you do.

    I am very interested in linking the inputs on my amp. However, I am not sure if my amp is capable and I am more worried of doing something wrong and damaging it. If you have any experience doing this with a 40w fender blues delux reissue I would greatly appreciate your instruction.

    Also. I have been chasing Trey Anastasio’s tone for years, but have realized that his phenomenal Languedoc hollow bodies are simply the most important part of the tone. As I do not have $10,000 to burn I have decided to chase Gilmour’s. The tone which made me want to play guitar in the first place! I have been stacking a Green Rhino -> TS9 but am struggling to get David’s smooth yet razor sharp tone. When I imagine what I’m going for I think of the over driven part from Shine On Wembly 1974. I’m sorry I can’t remember the time stamp. I can get back to you on that if you’d like. I have been wondering if I need to go with a muff. What do you think? I would probably stack it with the rhino in order to keep the mid and bass shaping knobs :)

    Other info
    American standard strat
    Phase 90
    Crybaby
    Diamond compressor
    Green rhino
    Ts9
    Morley volume pedal
    MXR carbon copy

    Thank you so much and take care!
    Brandon Oubre

    [Hi Brandon! I've never linked the inputs on a Blues Deluxe so I can't tell how that sounds but try it. It won't damage anything. I think the razor sharp tone you're talking about is mostly just David's Strat with a transparent booster and the bright Hiwatts. This might be hard to achieve on a Fender with a Green Rhineo/TS9 setup, since this has considerable more mid range than David's setup. I'd consider a more transparent and brighter sounding overdrive like a Boss BD2 or, if you want to get THE tone, check out the Buffalo FX Powerbooster or ThroBak Overdriveboost. You'll find reviews for both here on the site. See this feature for some tips on setting up your amp. - Bjorn]

  194. Keith says:

    Hey Bjorn, gonna go for one of the 15 V2′s? I hope so. I know you’re a big Violet fan, and a good review from you would almost guarantee a long run, or possibly even get it added to his stock pedals! I hope I can do it justice in the YouTube clip I plan on recording. Gonna do the “Dry” solo from Dogs. I think that would be the ultimate test for what the pedal is supposed to be.
    Take care, and regards to your family during this season of Joy, and Peace, your friend, Keith ;)

    [Hi Keith! Well, if Stu sends me one I'd be more than happy to do a review :) All the best for the holidays my friend :) - Bjorn]

  195. Kevin M says:

    Bjorn or other fellow readers. I am leaning towards purchasing a Pig Hoof But not sure which one. I did read both reviews on the site and watched the videos.

    I am mostly a rhythm player but am venturing into soloing. This is more for own enjoyment of playing and sometimes with friends. Being a rhythm player I like to have a little more bass in my sound so I can have that bottom “feel”! I play into a 4×12 with V 30′s but will eventually down size to either a 2×12 or 1×12. I am using a Fender strat with D Allen VooDooBlues pups.

    That being said and having read the details of the pedals, because I like to have a little extra bass in my over all sound I was wondering which Hoof would suit my needs better? If I use the Red model will there be too much bass? If I use the mkII with my amp bass up a little will I end up with the Red sound and not having it sound to muddy?

    Thanks guys for any input that you give.. It will all be greatly appreciated.

    Kevin M

    [Hi Kevin! I'd go for the red. It's a monster in every sense with lots of gain and low end but it has tone and sustain all the way. The MkII is a bit cleaner with a little less gain and low end, tweaked for my studio setup. Cheers! - Bjorn]

  196. Siddharth says:

    Hi, I wanted to know if I can use the ‘Big Muff Pi with tone wicker’, for songs like Comfortably Numb and Money ? I have a very basic setup as of now, Fender Affinity, + Orange 20W + the BigMuff Pi w tone wicker and a Stereo Elec Mistress … What would be the ideal settings on this in your opinion for the those songs, and in general for similar tones.. ? Anything to help me get close to the correct sounds… I know I am missing a whole lotta gear :) but this is all i could get with my budget as of now ..

    Thanks in Advance!
    Big fan of this site !!! :)

    [Hi! The Tone Wicker works nicely. I also recommend checking out the EHX Bass Muff, which is very close to the Sovtek Big Muffs. Pedal settings always depends on your amp, what other pedals you use with the specific pedal, your playing style etc etc. Start off with the controls around noon and tweak your way around that but don't overdo it. See this feature for some amp setup tips and this one for some Big Muff tone tips. Cheers! - Bjorn]

  197. Fernando says:

    Hi! thanks for this excellent guide!
    I have seen you have tested chains in so many different ways… I want you to help me to order my pedals for a balanced use of true.b and buffers. Here are my pedals: -Big Muff with tone/wicker – Boss CS3 – (true-bypass modded) Cry Baby- MXR script Phase 90 – EH Neo Clone – Boss DD3 – Behringer VT999 (12AU7, tube you recommended, very satisfied with it :-)) – Pete Cornish G-2 Clone (without buffer).
    I don’t use daisy chains. I use a diy regulated-isolated power supply. What will be the most efficient way to place those pedals? Thanks!

    [Thanks! Try this: guitar > wah > CS3 > G2 > Muff > VT999 > Phase 90 > Clone > DD3 > amp. How about that? - Bjorn]

  198. Siddharth says:

    hey thanks! i’ll see if i can find it locally and try it out… As of now i just have the muff w tone wicker and an electric mistress..the thing is that the money solo (orignal album version) sounds so clean as in, the notes are so clear even with that screaming kind of sound. sorry i can’t describe it properly.. but basically i wanted to be able to get that kind of sound..i know that it would be very difficult to get with just a big muff, but if there are certain settings on it or the amp which can help me get close ? And if there is a cheap alternative pedal to achieve similar tone ?
    Also , I have heard many versions of Comfortably Numb, but can’t quite make out if an Electric Mistress is used on it ? And, if these were the settings on the original Deluxe Electric Mistress , “rate 9:00, range 10:00, colour 10:00″.. is it possible to get a similar sound on the Stereo Electric Mistress ? and what would be the settings on it, in case you have tried on this..

    Thanks!
    Sid

    [Hi! David used a fuzz on the album version of Money so if you're desperately seeking the authentic tone then you might want to consider a fuzz. There are lots of different alternatives out there but if you want something affordable and easy to get then check out the silver or blue Mini Fuzz Face.
    There was no Mistress on the album version of CN... only the 1980-81 live version. The Stereo Mistress is more like a very deep chorus and I don't really recommend it for replicating David's tones. Check out an analog chorus or the Mooer ElecLady, which is much closer to the original Mistress. - Bjorn]

  199. Pier says:

    Hey Bjorn! I recently discovered your website and this place is a wealth of knowledge not only for Gilmour’s fans but for any guitar player!

    I am quite an “advanced beginner” bedroom player, I am also a Gilmour fan but I would like to be very flexible on my setup in order to nail different tones (eg. mainly 90s Grunge/Alt rock bands). I am building my first pedalboard and so far I have: Crybaby->TS9(mod TS808)->boss GE7(monteallums mod)->Phase 90 Script->boss CE2->Tc Electronic Alter Ego into a Vox AC4C1. I play a 64 fender mustang, an es335 and a strat.

    Now the 1 Million dollars question: I have still space/budget for one pedal and I am considering a distortion/muff/fuzz. What do you think will be the best pedal to fit and complete my setup in order to get a step closer David’s tone but also flexible enough to play other stuff?

    Many thanks in advance for your answer!!!
    Cheers,
    Pier

    [Hi Pier! Always hard to suggest a pedal that does it all but personally I prefer something versatile for whenever I want to nail as many tones as possible. Once you start to go for authenticity you'll narrow and limit your options. The Fulltone OCD, Wampler PlexiDrive (sounds great combined with the TS808) and the classic RAT should be up for the job. If you want something a bit nastier I'd check out the MojoHand Iron Bell or TopTone DG2. Cheers! - Bjorn]

  200. Siddharth says:

    hey thanks a lot for all the info Bjorn !! I checked out the shops here, sadly none of these are available… i’ll have to order these from abroad…

    thanks!
    Sid

  201. Matt says:

    Hey Bjorn,

    there is a Ram’s Head clone kit by a German company named Musikding. I’ve ordered and built mine and it blew me away! It nails The Wall pretty much, sounds great even at lower levels. A real choice for us European guys. And the best thing is: it costs only some 30 Euros (case included)!!! Awesome Muff for the price. There are some videos on youtube, one where one guy plays dogs. You ought to check this out!

    Merry x-mas to everyone!

    [Thanks for the tip, Matt! Enjoy the holidays! - Bjorn]

  202. Andrea says:

    Hi mate, many thanks for your amazing website! I need your help: can you suggest an effects configuration for my american special strat + laney cub 12r?
    I play at home and my target is the “on the turning away” solo sound but I’d like to have at the same time something versatile for other eras. I read carefully the guide and I’m pointing to the large beaver, musket, the hoof, colossus, box of war…what’s the best? What about compressor, booster and chorus? cheers ;)

    [Hi! For starters, check out the Tone - Amp tutorial for some amp setup tips. On the turning away was recorded and performed live using a Boss HM2 into a Mesa head, with chorus and delay. I guess a RAT would be the easiest and closest match but you can also nail the tone perfectly with a Muff. I'd go for one with lots of mid range, like the Musket or Box of War. Personally I like the Musket and it's also much more versatile for other stuff than the BoW. You'll also need a chorus, any model would do but check out an analog model like the Mooer Ensemble King or CostaLab ChorusLab. You could pretty much use any delay but it's hard to beat the TC Flashback in terms of price and tone. Hope this helps :) - Bjorn]

  203. Andrea says:

    ok! So definetely the musket instead of the large beaver? Actually the lots of controls on the musket scare me a bit….and can you suggest me what compressor is good for me? I wanted to buy a CS3 and the man in the shop refused to sell it. He said it’s awful…do you agree?
    thanks again and I wish you a merry christmas ;)

    [It always depends on what tones you want but based on your setup and the tones you mention I would say the Musket. No need to be scared of the controls. It has three classic Muff controls and three for further tone shaping. The Focus control in particular is very cool for smaller amps.
    The CS3 isn't awful but there are no doubt some much better option out there. Personally I've always been a huge fan of the classic Dynacomp and one of the better versions of it is the Whirlwind Red Box. Check out the Barber Tone Press as well :) - Bjorn]

  204. Pete Tatooles says:

    Bjorn:

    Cheers – I am very interested in the 10/10 overall rating on the WREN & CUFF Box of War. I am going to grab one but you must have some sage advice to give it a 10/10 Gilmourish Rating – that score merits something special as I use your reviews very frequently in pedal selection.

    Shine On,

    Pete Tatooles

    [Hi Pete! The scores are based on several criteria including whether the pedal is what it promise to be. The BoW is by far the best sounding Civil War Sovtek I've played and it also performs very well on smaller setups. This means that if you're looking for David's Animals tones, then you have to look elsewhere. My scores are also based on testing the pedals on my guitars and amps so they might not work as good on your rig. Cheers! - Bjorn]

  205. Leroy says:

    Very nice article! Still, I can’t decide between the Large Beaver , Pig Hoof mk2 and Musket. I play a les paul and want to use the fuzz only for the solos. I would like to get something similar to The Wall/ Animals tone. Which one would you recommend? Thanks and happy holidays ;)

    [It always depends on your amp and guitar and it can be a bit hard to nail the tones with humbuckers. Not knowing what amp you use I recommend the Large Beaver triangle model. It's probably the most versatile of the three and fits humbuckers very well. - Bjorn]

  206. Keith says:

    Hello Bjorn, I have a rather important question, I have to get a clip up soon, or no one will speak to me again. My problem is, I really can’t see spending my studio time on it, and hate asking friends with home studios to go through the trouble. I have a Zoom Q3hd recorder, and wonder if you thought that I could place the stereo speakers at the proper distance from the zoom, and set my amp to a point at which the levels were close, do you think I could get a halfway decent clip? If I had a 57, and a interface, and some inexpensive software, I could use the mic in, and it would basically be at least close to a decent clip recording set up, but alas, all my gear went at one time, and while I have a great rig, I haven’t even began to learn the digital, computer based recording techniques thar sprouted up while I was on “Hiatus”. Any ideas of an inexpensive interface, and software that would act as a mixer, with basic reverbs, delays, that I could add a mic’d amp, to a backing track, and output into the Zoom, as a two track master? Or, given the time, and money issues, should I give the first idea a go? I feel like I missed out on so much in my time away. Last time I recorded, ADATs were new! Alot has changed about home recording since ’98. I suppose I could buy a digital multitrack recorder that comes with the software, and directly interfaces to your PC, they have gotten a lot less expensive. Sorry to be so long, but want to do the V2 justice, as it’s truly among the best Muffs I’ve heard.
    Thanks, and happy new year, Keith

    [Hi Keith! Not sure if the Zoom alone would make the pedal justice but I've never tried it so I can't really tell. >re you using PC or Mac? I'm a Mac guy myself and Garageband should do the trick. A basic sound interface from MAudio or similar would make it possible to connect to a PC and MAC. I'm sure there are lots of free or cheap easy to use mixing software for PC as well. Cheers! - Bjorn]

  207. Caevan O'Shite says:

    Hey! Cool ‘page here, thanks. Just for the record, I bought the very last (Version 1) VFE Fiery Red Horse made; unlike the specimen reviewed above, mine has A LOT of gain and output-volume on tap. Its Mid, Power, and Clipping controls- in addition to the Sustain, Tone, and Volume- make this pedal EXTREMELY versatile! I sometimes have a hard time deciding which pedal I want it to be! LOVE mine!

    [It's a nice pedal but not quite my taste. Glad you like it :) - Bjorn]

  208. Keith says:

    Hi Bjorn, wish you were close enough to lend you my V2. I haven’t the gear, and haven’t had time to make a good enough clip, and would hate to see the best damned Muff I’ve ever heard go by the wayside because no one’s heard it, so no one knows of it’s existence. I know the forum guys are waiting to hear a clip from me, but I won’t post a smartphone video of the work of a true artist. I also don’t want Stuart to lose interest in making many more than the original 15, because he hasn’t got a good clip up, and won’t sell many until it’s properly heard. I feel like I’m letting everyone down, but I just can’t put any old crap up, so I’ll figure something out! Anyway, hope one finds it’s way to you, as they’d fly out of his shop should you get your hands on one.
    Peace, Keith

    [No worries Keith. I hope to be able to try one some day :) - Bjorn]

  209. Roger Sartori says:

    “Way Huge Swollen Pickle Mkii Fuzz Pedal” is the name of the child. Have you ever heard it or tried it?

    [Nope. - Bjorn]

  210. Roger Sartori says:

    Check this Ram’s Head clone, made by a brazilian guy:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OpBS97lOKs
    He also produces other Big Muff clones, such as Civil War, Green Russian, etc.

    [Thanks for the tip! - Bjorn]

  211. Pedro Costa says:

    Hello, Bjorn

    Thank’s, Your site is fantastic!!!

    Today I decided to buy the “Wren and Cuff Box of War”, but I see in the Site of Wren and Cuff that they have also a clone of Ram’s Head, the “Wren and Cuff The Caprid”…
    Do you know this clone and if there’s a good option?

    Tank’s again,
    From Portugal
    Pedro Rafael Costa

    [Thank for your kind words, Pedro! The Caprid is a true ram's head clone and slightly different sounding compared to the BoW. Depends on what tones you want. The ram's had has a bright aggressive tone with lots of sustain and vintage character. The early Sovtek Muffs has a darker and warmer tone with more mid range and low end. - Bjorn]

  212. Postecutioner says:

    Hey Bjorn, just when I’d given up hope, my old bassist, who has an excellent home studio called and offered to record the audio for the V2 clip, and using the zoom as the video caprure, in 1080 p, and as the two track master, I would think I could get a near brocast quality clip, and really show the best Muff in the world off. Evidently, I’m not alone, as someone took me at my word, and bought the #2, and has confirmed that it is indeed what it was intended to be. As close as the human ear can get to David’s 1973 #1 Violet Ram’s Head. It sounds so good with everything ser at noon, I still haven’t found any need to boost it, even at bedroom levels. I hate to use this ift used cliche, but this muff is Animals in a box, no Bullshit, and if nothing else, I have a very good ear for minute details! If anyone cares to purchase a perfect Gilmourish Muff, buy thr V2 while you can, I will have a clip of the pedal up a week from this coming Monday, that will blow your mind!
    Peace, Keith

    [Looking forward to hear the clip. I'd love to try the pedal as well and hear how Stu has interpreted the tone. I assume that he hasn't actually reverse engineered David's old Muff? - Bjorn]

  213. Postecutioner says:

    Is there any way to edit clips in moderation status. I check, and check, and only after I hit submit, do I find the many typos. I guess if I got in the habit of using my computer, where I could see the entire message I’m typing, I wouldn’t have all the typos, but the smartphone is so convenient. However, if there is an edit function, please inform me how to do it :)
    Thanks, Keith

    [Unfortunately there isn't. It usually is on the forums bot not on blogs... - Bjorn]

  214. Postecutioner says:

    No Bjorn, he did it with the most amazing pair of ears! I can’t hear much, if any difference between the tones I’m getting, and live recordings the #1 was used on, and without too much trouble, I’ve gotten very close to the studio recordings of Animals. A little tweaking, and I think it is as close as can be, without Cornish’s schematic!

    [OK, please forgive me for being the devil's advocate here. First of all, I do not doubt a second that the pedal sounds awesome. I've never had the pleasure of playing any of Castledine's pedals but from what I've read and heard, he knows his stuff. For me though, again, without having tried it, this is just another Big Muff clone. It just so much you can do with the basic schematic.

    Again, I don't doubt that Stu has a good ear but no matter how experienced you are it's impossible to tell for certain how David's Animals and Wall tones actually sounded. For one, obviously, what you hear is a combination of David's guitar, the pickups, the signal chain through the pedal board, any combination of pedals that he might be using, the Hiwatts and the Yamahas. Add to this, the processing of the recording - either bad transfer of bootleg sources onto different medias or mixed and mastered studio recoridngs.

    For 99% of all of David's Animals and Wall Muff live tones, he would use the bridge pickup on his Strat (DiMarzio FS1 for Animals and S Duncan SSL1c for Wall) and the signal was split into the Hiwatts and Yamahas. For Animals he would mostly use a combo of the Muff > Colorsound Powerboost > Electric Mistress > delay. For Wall it seems that he rarely used boost. The Cornish board also featured a tone circuit that he might have used with the Muff.

    Tone is also about perception and how you interpret the tone. On this level, analyzing a tone requires that you know exactly what the setup is, how each component sound and how they were set up. You also need to free your mind from any subjective opinions and associations. It comes down to experience and knowing what to look for. I can make a RAT or even an average overdrive sound like a Muff just by believing it and I will tell you how great it sounds because it sounds great to me.

    There are lots of great sounding ram's head clones out there and everything said about the V2 can easily be said about the Pig Hoof, P1, Large Beaver, Foxey Fuzz, Caprid etc... based on my experience with these at least.

    I'm sure you hate me by now but don't get me wrong on this. I'm very happy to hear that you're excited about the V2 and it makes me want to try one... I can't wait! I think your enthusiasm rubs off on us all! My point though is that there are no easy solutions for a good tone. And, as much as I would like to get my hands on a duplicate of David's rig, I know that it won't sound the same with my hands. - greetings from the Party Pooper]

  215. Keith says:

    You’re not being a party pooper at all. I didn’t want a Muff, and had no preconceived notions what it would sound like. I really am giving you an unbiased opinion of what the V2 sounds like compared to other Muffs I’ve heard, and what my guitar sounds like through my rig, and to my ears, while maybe not the best, are classically trained, and have 35 years of musical experience. So, all varibles aside, all I’m saying is this pedal gets me as close as I could hope to the tones I hear on Animals. And, I know that is a subjective opinion, but not totally unfounded, based on other attempts to achieve that sound I hear. I always value your knowledge, and opinionand maybe I oversimplified it, but lets leave it at, ” I have not heard a better sounding Big Muff live, or on video.”.
    Still Love ya, Keith

    [Awesome! Hope you get around to make those clips :) - Bjorn]

  216. Keith says:

    I didn’t explain the statement,”I didn’t want a muff.”, in my last post. What I meant was, I was quite happy with the Musket, and didn’t see a need for a muff for my purposes, but when the friend who initiated the project turned it over to me, I thought it my respinsibility to purchase one. So, I didn’t expect anything special, considering even Stuart admitted,( rather over humbly IMO!), That he wasn’t a muff guy, but would give it a try. And once again, IMO, he did a phenominal job at producing a pedal that does exactly what I would want a muff to do. Just wanted to make that clear, as to why I feel my opinion is about as nonbiased as is possible, if one considers that I had no intention of buying any muff clone, so therefore had no idea what it would sound like, until it was plugged in, and had it been anything less than what I’ve previously stated, I wouldn’t have gotten excited about it, or posted several posts about it.
    Peace, still your devoted Padawan, Keith

    [That's what it's all about isn't it? Nothing beats the feeling of plugging into a pedal without any expectations and getting blown away. Obviously, since David used a ram's head, it won't be quite right until you actually play one and even though you're not set on replicating any specific tones we all know that tone and use that as a reference. IOM the violet fits a Strat and Hiwatt/Revees especially well. Anyway, I wasn't trying to underestimate the pedal in any way but rather try to explain what it takes to recognize and duplicate a tone. Cheers! - Bjorn]

  217. Keith says:

    I know! ;)

  218. Keith says:

    Oh yeah Bjorn, forgot to mention. I really have a difficult time with doing the clips, as I had no way of doing them at home, and to go DAW, I’d have to get a new computer, and wouldn’t settle for anything but a Mac for recording. I could drag all my gear to my friends, and record 1 clip there, but being someone who knows the recording process, but not the computer based DAW way, ans today being my birthday, I’ve decided to give myself a Tascam DP 24. Everything I’ve read says it’s perfect for my purposes, and being a fader, and knob turner, as opposed to a mouse slider, plus the fact I can get a full 24 track start up studio for around $600.00 including a couple of 57s, and 58s, I’m sure it’s the best starting point for me. If you aren’t familiar with the DP 24, and 32, check out the review, and explanation on a site called sound on sound. I had the old 4 track portastudio 244, and think Teac/Tascam was the original, on which I made many very decent demos, and while much more up to date, and digital, with lits of belks, and whistles, it has a certain familiarity to it, and instead of talking about making clips, I could under the right circumstances, do several clips over the space of a weekend, and it does sync with DAW software, so it would slowly get me up to date. Anyone have experience with the DP 24, or 32? The only even mildly weakness I’ve
    found after many searches, are the mic preamps could be better, and the onboard guitar effects aren’t great, but it does have effect sends, and returns, and the firmware is constantly being updated, and the latest version is supposed to have repaired any glitches it had when it first came out.
    Wish me luck, I’m sure it will be a lot of fun for the money.
    Peace, Keith

    [A belated happy birthday, Keith! I don't have that much experience with mixing hardware. I'm using Logic my self… all digital and no interfaces or mixers. Anyone else here has any experience with this? - Bjorn]

  219. Tércio says:

    Hello Bjorn !!

    What you think about Nano Big muff Pi ?? Do you think, they can get the Gilmour tone ??

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-52QVM8-_vs

    Cya !!

    [I haven't tried it yet but from what I understand it's based on the bigger NYC reissue with a few minor tweaks. Like the late 80s Op amp Muff it's not the best choice for Gilmour's tones. It's definitely possible to tweak for some convincing tones but I think there are better options out there for those Gilmour tones, like the EHX Bass Muff and the Mooer Triangle. See the Buyer's Gear Guide Big Muff for other recommendations and alternatives :) - Bjorn]

  220. clark says:

    Hey Bjorn hope you are doing fine. I havent commented much for a long time because I have had the fortune of loving the gear that I currently have. But that aside I would like to hear your top 3 rams head clones in your opinion. Also have you ever built a BYOC large beaver? I decided to give it a shot and its been much more challenging than I thought, but I never soldered in my life before so I shouldnt have expected it to be as easy as I did. I hope everything is going well on your end, thanks.

    [Hi Clark! Never assembled any pedal... I'm too lazy :) My top 3 ram's heads? 1. Electronic Orange Pig Hoof MkI/MkII, 2. Buffalo FX Ram's Head and 3. WC Caprid. I also love the MJM Foxey Fuzz. Perhaps intended as a triangle or evern earlier than that but it has a distinct violet ram's head kind of tone. - Bjorn]

  221. clark says:

    Hey Bjorn I wouldnt say you are lazy for not building a BYOC muff, I would say smart. It has been quite frustrating… they did forgot a diode in the package but I screwed up a bit so its mostly on me. I would like to know though what about those three makes them the best 3. I must say I am quite pleased that you listed the caprid, since I am user and an avid user. Thanks for answering my questions, cheers.

    [I think I've explained why in the guide above :) I'll update it with the Caprid as well. To be honest I rarely use Muffs for my personal tones. Mostly for playing aorund with Gilmour tones and one or two Airbag solos but mostly I use conventional distortions like the RAT, Keeley/Boss DS1 or a combo of the Fulltone OCD and Tube Driver. The Muff has a limited range and it doesn't sound like anything else than a Muff. I find distortions and overdrives and the combination of these to be more versatile and easier to experiment with. Having said that, among Muffs I prefer the ram's head for it's raw and aggressive tone. All of the top 3 pedals are in that category and their subtle differences makes them usable for different applications. - Bjorn]

  222. Denis says:

    Hi Bjorn, greetings from Miami,Fl U.S.A… So what is your favorite top 3 triangle clones?…I wish this site was around 20 years ago. Thank you for making it.

    [Thanks! That's a hard one… haven't really tried that many triangle clones… Obviously, one of my all time fav Muff clones is the BYOC Large Beaver triangle. Apart from that… the Red Muck from Jam Pedals. Kind of a mix between a triangle and Sovtek but definitely a triangle-ish. Third… I don't know… Once tried the WnC Tri Pie, which sounded very nice. - Bjorn]

  223. Roger Sartori says:

    This video (not made by myself) shows these Big Muff Ram’s Head replicas made by a brazilian guy. Pedals are very simple yet with a nice touch and more important: relatively cheap. Take your own conclusions about it:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OpBS97lOKs
    He also produces other Big Muff clones such as Civil War and Green Russian. Have them all and love them!

    [Thanks for the tip! - Bjorn]

  224. John says:

    Hi Bjorn I have recently discovered this site and I love it. I am still trying to accumulate the necessary gear for Animals/The Wall era sounds. The videos on the Big Muff tutorial are very helpful. So far I have a replica of the Black Strat that I put together myself from a 09 Mexican body and 99 USA neck, pickups are identical to the Fender edition. I use two Fender amps, Blues JR and/or Deluxe Hot Rod. I also have a 65 deluxe reverb. Pedals include Boss DD3 delay, CS3 compressor, bixonic expandora overdrive, electric mistress, and a US reissue Big Muff. I cant get the sound I am looking for. You seem to nail it on songs like “Mother.” I realize now the muff reissues aren’t very good, but I seem to be way off. I’m thinking about purchasing a Boss RT-20 to add to the mix. Any suggestions for getting closer to that sound?

    [Hi John! Sorry for my late reply. As always I recommend starting with the amp. Setting it up for the right basis for your pedals is crucial for getting the tones you want. See this feature for some amp setup tips. The US reissue Muff is all that bad but it's not ideal for David's tones. You might want to check out a model that isn't that saturated and boomy. The EHX Bass Muff is actually very good and nails David's 80s and 90s tones in particular. Check out the Buffalo FX Ram's Head as well for those Animals and Wall tones. Hope this helped :) - Bjorn]

  225. Stevie Bees says:

    Bjorn,

    I thought you might like to know about a Muff clone that I recently bought: the BMF Effects Aries Fuzz. It’s supposedly based on the Violet Ram’s Head Muff and it has an additional mids control. I played it today through a Carl Martin Plexitone prototype set up with just a hint of dirt and into a V-Amp 2 set to a clean combo. I added a bit of flange and delay at the V-Amp and used my G&L Legacy with Seymour Duncan Antiquity Surfer pickups. It’s the closest I’ve ever come to getting a tone in a Gilmour area. If you get the chance you should definitely try one!

    Regards,

    Stevie

    [Hi Stevie! Never owned one but tried it a few years back. Sounded really nice. Very similar to the Pig Hoof but a tad darker :) - Bjorn]

  226. clark says:

    Hope you’re doing well, fair enough on the guide comment. I can’t wait until you update it with other pedals like the Caprid and P19. I do have a question but its an easy one, I am curious to which big muff is the one you like most? I’m currently equally torn on the Rams Head and Civil War, I do love the later Russian models because of their boomy but tight low end with that snarl of the earlier and later US models. In saying that I feel the Rams Head and Civil War have the best combinations with each having a little more presence in certain areas, like Rams head having more bight and being brighter and the Civil War being more boomy and bassy but tight with really smooth grit and that thunderous sound that comes from your amp when hitting an Em. I think this is why we all love Big Muffs, they do have a signature sound but they all have their little quirks and deviations that make them special, thanks.

    [Hi Clark! It's always difficult to answer questions like these because I don't really have a favourite. It depends on what tones I need and what gear I'm using. In most cases, I prefer a ram's head and I guess, if I had to choose, I'd go with the Pig Hoof. The Sovteks are great for certain applications and equally the triangle. Some of the clones with mids controls are great for recording and for cutting through a band mix… - Bjorn]

  227. Chuck says:

    Bjorn! You rock!

    I LOVE the Sovtek tone, killer! Will it get me DSOTM tone, (time solo) in mind here!

    Thanks Bjorn

    Keep rocking

    [Thanks! You can easily tweak for some similar tones… depending on your guitar and amp. David used an early Sovtek for the Time solo on PULSE :) - Bjorn]

  228. Terrance says:

    Hey Bjorn, Merry Christmas , Happy New Years and have anice Valetines Day – and Happy New Years if you are Korean. I doubt it but hey .
    So I havebeen looking at Fuzz pedals since our last email re Velvet Fuzz being dark. Last band practice I had enough. No clarity too dark. So I looked at a few and stared at your web page reading about the Big Muffs etc . I do like the Pi9 (pig) but I aslo get that they are all different. The Skreddy came up somewhere and saw/heard your video. I like the review and get that it’s not a bright /mid fuzz . Is it dark like the Velvet Wampler ? oops too late I ordered it anyway . I found a retailer who had one. Can you tell me the best order to use the pedals. If this is a piss off I understand. If not I have
    wampler ego – P19 – maybe the velvet for overdrive – dr scientist the elements – xotic Ep booster – then the ibanez delay for echo and a boss dd7 boss tuner strymon flint. I do use volume knob – if you suggest removing any of these I will hear you. Thanks,
    have a good weekend.
    Terrance

    [Hi Terrance! The P19 is considerably brighter sounding than the Velvet. More Big Muff-ish too obviously but altogether I think you'll find it more versatile. Not sure if the Velvet works for overdrive but I haven't really tried it for that application. Personally I wouldn't use any of the pedals you got in combo. I think that would be just too noisy and too much gain. Perhaps the EP Booster could open up the Velvet and even the P19 a little but neither does really need a booster. I haven't tried the Elements, so I can't really tell about that one… - Bjorn]

  229. Terrance says:

    Hi Bjorn, thanks for the honesty. I love that . The Elements is a love hate – it’s like an eq – od – distortion – very versatile so I tend to keep it on the board. The Velvet has a decent overdrive ish (maybe a bit more than OD) for my needs. But again dark, which ends up being a nice rythmn sound. Keep in mind this is a cover band – so I tend need a few different sounds on board. Your reveiw nailed the P19, and yes very versatile and much brighter. It has a great nasty sound if needed – love it. I’m very sure when my original project gets going this will be one of my few gain pedals. Thanks for the input

  230. Dave E. says:

    Well this has been one of my favorite sites to visit regularly, being a Pink Floyd fan and dubious pursuer of the Gilmour tone. A First Class site in content and presentation, well done Bjorn.

    This is my first post and I thought I would drop a note on my experience with the Retro-Sonic Distortion pedal – a Rat ( a Gilmourish recommendation as I recall) . This has all the RAT virtues that Bjorn has mentioned numerous times: easy to manage with small rigs and a versatile set of tones. But I thought I’d mention that I find it works very nicely as a tone tweak for my Big Muffs.

    For example, right now I am learning Comfortably Numb, so I am employing my SUF Civil War as the main distortion pedal, but it is a little dark and turning the tone up doesn’t really do it for me. So I put the RAT in front of it to add a little clearity, definition and upper mids. I am using light distortion on both, especially the RAT, set in the 9-11:00 range. They seem to play nice together, giving a reasonably convincing Wall CN tone. I know I am stacking a lot of pedals here but losing any one of them detracts from the tone IMO. I’ll be tweaking and swapping pedals for months – so I am not suggesting this is ideal, but it is something to consider.

    Strat with EMG 20 pups: Spx 2, Spc 7, Vol 8
    CS-2 -> R-S Rat -> SUF CW -> BD-2 -> Buffalo Power Booster -> DEM flanger mixed down to 30% wet with LS-2 -> TC Nova Delay -> Blues Jr

    I play at home at “condo volume levels” into a Blues Jr, so I can’t say much about live venue performance. Has any one else gotten good results stacking a Muff with a RAT?

    [Thanks for your kind words and for sharing, Dave! - Bjorn]

  231. clark says:

    Bjorn hope everything is goin well with you. I was wondering if you ever played any of the Stomp Under Foot clones. People seem to absolutely rave about them, and for the longest time I didn’t understand why until I saw a clip on some of the Rams Head clones they have. I must say quite impressive I don’t know if I would go as far as some people and say that they are the best clones, but they are pretty good. You should check this clip out, the 2247 clone he made is probably one of the better clones I heard. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C4mZtVXovQ Take care

    [I've tried a few of them. They're very good. There are so many Muff clones on the market and most of them are very good sounding. Some are straight clones of the original circuits, while others are modern takes with different additional features. I think it's down to personal preferences and taste and it's hard to tell which is better or if some clones are that much better than the rest. It always depends on how you'll be using the pedal and with what gear :) - Bjorn]

  232. clark says:

    I also would like say you should check out the EHX sould food overdrive. It seems to be a good and natural, transparent overdrive thats footprint and wallet friendly.

    [Yep, looking forward to that one :) - Bjorn]

  233. Keith says:

    Hey Bjorn, have you seen, or heard anything about these Hot Tone all analog, true bypass mini pedals? I’ve just seen them in the case at Sam Ash the last time I was in, but didn’t really pay much attention. However, at $79.00, and about the size of Mooer’s stuff, anx running across an advert that they were all TB, and all analog, it sparked my curiosity. They’re a little oddly shaped, with a clear plastic ptotrusion on the back end, but very small, about 3/4 the length, and 1cm wider than the Mooer’s, kind of oblong instead of rectangular. Any knowledge, or experience with them?
    Thanks my brother, Keith

    PS, going 24 track recording on the 13th, clips will finally be forthcoming!

    [I've seen them but I haven't had the chance to try them out yet. Looks a bit weird but I'm sure they're worth checking out. The Mooer stuff was a surprise so I guess cheap pedals has come a long way... - Bjorn]

  234. Roger Sartori says:

    Bjorn, always giving a great opinion and tips! Thanks a lot! Speaking on hints, here’s another one for those who live in Brazil. This guy makes astonishing versions of Big Muffs. I bought the Ram’s Head and Green Russian models with MIDS control and also options for other mods. I totally recommend it, for all of you guys: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004298468792

    [Thanks for the tip, Roger! I'll check it out :) - Bjorn]

  235. craig says:

    I LOVE this thread you pay great attention to detail. Can you do a breakdown on the Deluxe Bass Big Muff? Thanks

    [Thanks! I'll do that when I've tried it :) - Bjorn]

  236. clark says:

    Hey Bjorn How are you? Thanks for answering my earlier questions, I try not to ask many but you have better knowledge on all things muff than I so I must defer to your knowledge. Ok my question, recently I have been using my Black Russian Muff a lot, and my Caprid. When I A/B them I could hear the subtle differences, The Black Muff sounded larger, bassier and smoother, while the Rams Head of course was brighter, crunchier and more aggressive. My question is, is there a clone out there that does the massive wall sound and on the bassier and smoother side while keeping the aggression and some of the brightness of the Rams Head? I want a muff that leans more to the Sovtek side buy with a little more brightness and crunch without losing the smoothness and the huge and bassy wall of sound, Thanks and cheers, hope your weekend treated you well, and hope you have been enjoying the olympics.

    [Hi Clark! The MojoHand Colossus is basically a beefed up Sovtek. Lots of low end and gain, while still maintaining that crispy top. The Earthquaker Hoof Fuzz is also worth checking out. Kind of a mix between a Ram's Head and Sovtek, with a super smooth sustain and nicely balanced low end. - Bjorn]

  237. Keith says:

    Hey Bjorn, a bit off topic, but I bought the Tascam DP 24 Portastudio, and after a great deal of research, found that it really only has two weak points that keep the under $500.00 unit from doing studio quality work. The first being the compressor, which while adequate for home studio demos, a good outboard raises the bar quite a bit. I found an 8 channel, $900.00 Presonus compressor limiter in mint condition for $350.00, and now I only need a good multi channel mic preamp, which is the other onboard weak link. Once the preamp is found, and I have a collection of decent mics,(for now it’s 57′s, and 58′s), I should be capable of doing studio quality, 24 bit, 48khz recording, but as it sits, I can already upload as good quality as YouTube will accept, and being able to put my ideas on CD, instead of forgetting them should be a lot of fun. Many quality recordings will soon follow. Hope to make some great music for everyone’s enjoyment!
    Peace all, Keith

    [Looking forward to it, Keith! - Bjorn]

  238. Martin Taylor says:

    Hi Bjørn, the last pedal I need for my board is a muff pedal but I can’t decide which one. I’m torn between the Large Beaver, the Musket and the box of war. I’m favouring the Box of War on tone alone but you have said in reviews that the beaver is one of your favorites and that the Musket is the most versatile and best for a bedroom setup which is where I will be mostly playing. I’m playing through a Laney cub 12 r and my other pedals are a WF reissue Rat, Keeley modded Boss BD2, Phase 90 script csp 026 (without led) , Boss DD2 and a Boss rt20. Which do you think would best suit my setup.

    [The BoW and Musket are very similar and both goes well with the setup. The Musket has a few extra features that allows further tone shaping, which can be handy on smaller setups. Personally I'd go for the Musket. - Bjorn]

  239. clark says:

    Hey Bjorn me again.. lol, sorry for the ton of questions. But I know someone selling a BYOC large beaver triangle spec which I have owned and do know its a great muff, but I was wondering if you feel the triangle specs can get a good and authentic Rams Head tone. Thanks.

    [It won't be authentic, since it's a triangle but you can get similar tones. The triangle is darker, smoother and not as aggressive. The ram's head is quite the oposite. Adding a booster to the triangle that boosts the treble side and perhaps even a bit of gain, will get you close. - Bjorn]

  240. Wayne says:

    Hi Bjorn, I have a Line 6 spider IV 75 amp and a 03 Mexican strat, Im going to get a Big muff pi(US) in the coming days and I need to know if I will be able to get the tone of another brick in the wall part 2 or somethjng similar, with many thanks, Wayne.

    [Hi Wayne. You should be able to cover a lot of tones with the setup. See this feature for some Big Muff tone tips. In regards to Another Brick, that's overdrive and not a Muff. A Muff would sound too aggressive for the more bluesier stuff. See the David Gilmour Gear Guide for detailed setups for each album and song. - Bjorn]

  241. Tom says:

    Hello Bjorn!! Do you think I could achieve a silicon fuzz face tone with a Mooer Tri Buff being boosted by a Stock BD 2 ?? Cheers!!

    [Not really. It would sound like a boosted Big Muff :) Dvaid used a silicon fuzz on Time, among other songs, and used a Muff on the 80s and 90s tours to replicate the tones. Works fine :) - Bjorn]

  242. Tom says:

    Hahaha, thanks Bjorn, i guess it sounds nice with Gilmour, let’s see how works with me haha.

    Thank you for everything!! This site rules, really

    [Cheers, Tom :) - Bjorn]

  243. Cameron Cross says:

    Hi Bijorn
    I love your site and I use it all the time as my only resource for David Gilmour’s tones because it is simply the best. I’m looking to start my first pedalboard and I want to recreate David’s PULSE tones because my Strat has EMG DG-20 pickups and it wouldn’t sound right trying to recreate the older tones with hotter pickups. I use a DigiTech RP 500 FX processor and a Laney Cub 12R tube amp. The RP 500 is ok for home use and it models some of Gilmour’s pedals like the Big muff, CS-2, CE-2, etc. However its not good live use. I mostly play at home in my bedroom but I also play at a small bar in my town.I’ve been searching eBay for a BOSS CS-2 and CE-2. So my question for you is what pedals do you think would not only nail those PULSE tones, but work for both bedroom and stage setups?

    [Hi Cameron! Please check out the Buyer's Guide sections. Every pedal has a reference for a Gilmour tone era. Try to make a list and narrow it down to a few options and let me know if you need more help :) - Bjorn]

  244. Joshj says:

    So when buying a black russian muff off ebay, how do you tell weather its the earlier version or the smaller box version that sounds not as good? they all look the same to me.

    [Check out Kit Rae's guide to the Sovtek Muffs. - Bjorn]

  245. Tom says:

    Bjorn, (damn, I need to stop asking questions) im between a Mooer Triangle Buff and a 22/7 Triangle, which one would be the best for the cash? The mooer is alot cheaper than the 22/7 and also I have a solid state combo (well actually, a pretty good amp), so i guess it would be better the mooer.

    Sorry, I promise I’ll try to stop with my questions hahaha
    Cheers!!

    [The 22/7! Definitely :) - Bjorn]

  246. Tom says:

    Ok!!! :) thanks for your advice!!! Hope everything is fine in Airbag :) cheers

  247. Mike Walters says:

    Any reviews on EH’s new Micro Big Muff??

    [No plans. - Bjorn]

  248. Pete says:

    Bjorn, have you tried any of the Vick Audio stuff? They have a Triangle, Ram’s Head, and BMP clone. The prices look great.

    [Hi! Never tried them. Thanks for the tip! - Bjorn]

  249. Nicolás says:

    Hi Bjorn! Have you heard the new Wampler Velvet Fuzz? It sounds pretty amazing.
    Cheers!!

    [Hi! Had for some time and I must say that I don't like it. Too dark and muddy... my opinion :) - Bjorn]

  250. Cameron Cross says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    I love your site! Its the best out there for finding out David Gilmour’s tones. I was wondering if the red label Pig Hoof is too much for home use and that I should go for the yellow label. I play at a local bar once a week so I was curious if one of them would work for both bedroom and stage?

    [What kind of amp and guitar do you use? - Bjorn]

  251. Cem says:

    Hi Bjorn,
    I’ve watched a couple of videos, but haven’t really got an idea formed in my head. What do you think about the Wren and Cuff “the Caprid

    [Sounds very authentic, with a classic ram's head flavour. The thing about those old Muffs, is that each pedal sounded different... to some extent. All clones out there are either based on a specific pedal or the best of many, so it's really impossible to say that this or that is the ultimate clone. It's down to preference and taste. The Caprid has a fair amount of gain and a well balanced low end. Personally I prefer a slightly more aggressive character, like the Electronic Orange Pig Hoof. - Bjorn]

  252. Dimitri says:

    hey bjorn,has the EH big muff tone wicker a similar sound to the rams head muff? If it doesn’t do you prefer any EH modern muff that has a similar sound to the rams? if not is the wren and cuff caprid a good replica?

    [The Wicker is closer to a ram's head than the current US Big Muff but really, both are closer to the late 70s Muffs, which had more gain and a darker tone. The Caprid is an excellent option. - Bjorn]

  253. Dimitri says:

    Hey Bjorn, actually i cant afford a WnC caprid and a buffalo fx rams head which for me are the real thing, but i can afford a Pig Hoof or a BYOC large beaver, but while i was reading all the previous comment i spoted the comment from Matt where he suggests on a http://www.musikding.de/Der-Muff-Violet-Ram-Distortion-kit .
    The pig hoof will take a while like over 9 months + to get it delivered, the BYOC and the DER MUFF VIOLET RAM can get them now , but i am struggeling between those and a RAT2.
    Keep in mind i have a fender frontman 65r amp with both clean and drive channel and a les paul.
    What would you reccomende to me, should i wait for the hoof, or get BYOC or DER MUFF, or simply buy a rat2?

    [I haven't tried the DER so I can't really tell but the BYOC is hard to beat. Based on your setup though I think you'd be better off with the much more versatile RAT. A Muff might work but the RAT would be able to cover a lot more tones. - Bjorn]

  254. clark says:

    Hey Bjorn how are you doing? Have you ever heard of a custom muff builder called ICMPedals based in the UK.

    [Haven't tried the pedals but I see they got some interesting clones. Tried them yourself? - Bjorn]

  255. clark says:

    I actually ordered the Rams Head clone with my own custom graphic, He said it will be in the post today (technically since its now past midnight) and that it will take a week to arrive so I’ll keep you guys updated on it. If it turns out to play wonderfully then it will be a steal because its only roughly 120$ (American dollars of course), and it has the potential to have custom graphics and it has a mids switch to go from scooped to flat and to boosted. So if it sounds great than for the money, it could potentially and arguably be one of the best muffs clones on the market for the price, and he can also clone any pedal he has an accurate schematic of. Do you have any idea where I can find a good and accurate schematic of the Violet Rams Head?

    [Not sure and, although I'm no expert on Big Muffs, I don't think there is such a thing as a definitive Big Muff model. As I've explained in several comments and features, the early 2-3 generations of Muff had some nasty inconsistency issues and even some of the parts were of low quality. This means that it's very hard to find two identical sounding pedals, not least because these things doesn't stand the test of 40+ years of abuse and storing. A violet Ram's Head had a bit more gain and an overall more aggressive character than the triangle and ram's head but you can also find violets that are both dark and mild or bright and too aggressive to tame. I don't think there is or ever will be a definitive clone of a Big Muff. Ultimately, it comes down to how the cloner interpreted the item that was cloned and how you, as the guitarist, prefer your Big Muff :) - Bjorn]

  256. Matt says:

    Dear Bjorn

    thanks to you I have finally found the right gear for Gilmour. And believe me, it lets people turn their heads when the hear my (still mid-size) set up for the first time. Once again thanks for your contribution (even if unplanned) but your reviews and information was incredibly valuable to me.

    Ok, so heres the signal chain:
    - VOX HW846 Wah
    - 70s MXR DynaComp (Script Logo)
    - 70s MXR Phase 90 (Script Logo)
    - Skreddy P19
    - DIY Ram’s Head (from Musikding.de, still waiting for the Pig Hoof)
    - TS9 (used for other stuff and long Feedbacks such as Don’t Leave Me Now together with P19)
    - Fulltone OCD (seldomly used)
    - Boss BD2 Blues Driver (mild OD)
    - Mooer ElecLady
    - TC Nova Repeater
    - TC Corona Chorus (Boss CE-2 Toneprint or as simulation of Doppolas w/ low speed and depth)

    Amp now is a Laney Cub Head with a Cub Cab. I’ve replaced the speakers with two old Fanes from my 80s VOX AC30 (not sure which model, but ceamics with blue baskets). For tubes I’ve swaped the stock ones for JJs and a NOS GE 5751 in V1. This gives the amp a lot more clean headroom – highly recommended for all amps!!!

    For guitars I use a black Fender 50s Road Worn with a SSL5 in the bridge position and a Fender Japan reissue with EMG DG20s.

    This Setup is incredible!!! Thanks again for all those reviews and analyses. It helped me a lot in putting together “my” sound. Funny thing: This setup is highly versatile! I play it in all kinds of different bands.

    All the best
    Matt

    [Thanks for sharing, Matt! Looks like a great setup! - Bjorn]

  257. sgmarin says:

    Are you tested the Dice Works Muff Driver? That Muff have a switch to enable Cornish modes.

    What do you say about that pedal?

    Regards and Thanks!

    [Never tried it. - Bjorn]

  258. Dave E. says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    Apparently the question I sent a few days ago wasn’t received, so I’ll try again. Which PF or DG recordings in your opinion best capture the clean tone of the HiWatt amps, with and or without the Alembec/Fender preamp?

    Rgds,

    Dave E.

    [There aren't that many "clean" recordings of the Hiwatt. David rarely used the Alembic in the studio but his tones often has either some gain or modulation. Or both. He mostly used Fender amps in the studio anyway but some of the early recordings are most likely a Hiwatt. Slides on A Pillow of Winds and Fat old Sun, the clean rhythm parts on Atom Heart Mother (the track), rhythms on Burning Bridges… I can't think of much more. Final Cut is also a great Hiwatt album, although most of the tones were recorded with the Hiwatt + Yamaha split. - Bjorn]

  259. Dave Austin says:

    Hi Bjorn. Have a BYOC Large Beaver on order. I know you prefer the triangle stating that the ram’s head is darker but is there that much of a difference between the two?….really undecided which build to go for! Already have a RAT2 so later Gilmour tones are covered…..just looking to nail the Animals – Wall period. Thanks!

    [It's not a huge difference but the BYOC kit is designed to produce a fairly mild and darker sounding triangle, and a brighter and more aggressive ram's head. For Animals and Wall I'd go for the ram's head :) - Bjorn]

  260. Dave Austin says:

    Thanks Bjorn; was leaning towards the Ram’s Head so glad you said that! This’ll be the last of my pedal purchases (for a while anyway!) which completes my Gilmourish rig: MXR carbon copy; Deluxe Electric Mistress; Mooer Chorus; Mooer 90 Orange; RAT2; BYOC Beaver, Ram’s Head; Vox Wah; GPCB DSOTM Fuzz…Wah aside, all pedals were bought from reading the advice from this excellent site. Can’t thank you enough; now achieving all the tones I’ve wanted for the last 25 years!!!

    [Glad to hear, Dave! Looks like a great setup! - Bjorn]

  261. Dave Austin says:

    Oops! Should have added an OCD to that rig list!

    One day I may upgrade some things (Buffalo FX Powerboost for OCD, ’74 reissue Phase 90 for Orange 90, CE2 for Mooer Chorus etc) but happy as I am for now…..guitar is ‘only’ a Jap 90′s Squire and amp is a Vox VT30 modelling amp so Laney Cub stack and American Standard Strat will be the next things on the shopping list I think! ;^)

    [I think you'll be very pleased with the Power Booster, if you decide on one. It will provide classic overdrive but set up as a clean boost, it will also bring life to your amp. The guitar should be fine. The Japanese Squiers from that era have a good reputation and you can always upgrade hardware and pickups, if that's something you want. - Bjorn]

  262. Jack says:

    Hey Bjorn!

    I’ve ordered a BYOC Large Beaver (super excited!), and was checking out some other BYOC stuff and it made me think. Large Beaver will be my first pedal (I borrow from siblings) and was wondering what you thought is the next essential Gilmour pedal?

    I would have guessed delay, so am looking at things like the catalinbread echorec, but I bow to your knowledge!! Any opinions? (I listen to and play things up to the wall era)

    Many thanks,

    Jack

    [Hi Jack. A delay is a must :) The Echorec is nice but it doesn't do Animals and Wall that well. You need a more pristine and cleaner delay for stuff like Dogs, Run Like Hell and Comf Numb. You could go for an Echorec and perhaps a digital unit, like a TC Flashback or Boss DD, or simply, just a multi processor, like the TC Nova or Eventide Timefactor, which will give you a wide range of high quality tones. - Bjorn]

  263. Manuel says:

    Some time ago I ask you about two options “EHX Bass Big Muff” or “Hoof Fuzz”.. The one that I got before was the EHX because of the price, now I got the Hoof Fuzz and let me tell you.. They are not even close, the Hoof is just amazing, in every setting I’ve tried it sounds awesome. Now I do understand why you recommend the Hoof first, you do really know what you’re talking about.

    Big greetings Bjorn!!!

    [Glad to hear! Yes, they're very different sounding although both are based on the early 90s Sovtek pedals. The Bass Muff is, in my opinion, one of the better in EHX's current line up, but the Hoof is definitely a more exciting pedal with more of that vintage flavour :) - Bjorn]

  264. Dimitri says:

    any thoughts for the Wampler Velvet Fuzz? is it a nice clone for a rams head ( or maybe the violet rams head) or for the sovtek era? in the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ_YjEjyGns it covers lot of gilmours work :D

    [Check out my short review in the guide above :) I'm not very impressed... - Bjorn]

  265. uwe stevenson says:

    Hello Bjorn,

    I’d like to know your advice before I spend too much in a nex Big Muff clone. I already own a ram’s head clone for the naimals / wall area tones. I wanted to get a Sovtek Civil War Muff for my favorite tone , the Division Bell area… like The Wren and Cuff Box of War or Buffalo Patriot. But… I realize there are just a few songs on the Division Bell album, played with the Sovtek Muff (just Keep talking and WDYWFM)).
    Here’s my question: Would it be a good choice to replace them with a RAT clone (Is the Mooer Black secret a good otpion? have you tried it<,)?
    Another question: In my two song examples, (Keep talknig and What do you want from me), I d'ont understand that David uses A big Muff in Studio, and replaces it with The "Chandler TD(vol boost) + RAT" combination in Pulse.

    Indeed I tought the Big Muff was a transparent mid scooped pedal, and the RAT a warm distortion with lot of mids…

    Best regards,

    Uwe

    [I don't think you should be that focused on what David's using but rather what works with your guitar and amp. There are no confirmed reports on which pedals David are using on Division Bell but from what I, and amny others, can gather he is using a Muff on Keep Talking. WDYWFM is a bit trickier because it also sounds like he's using modulation on that track and the delay is colouring the tone as well. My guess is that he's using a RAT, as he did on PULSE, but it might also be a Muff. We don't know if he used the Sovtek Muff or the old ram's head. David's often using different pedals live than what he used on the albums. It depends on his mood that night and which pedals works better for recording and live use. Sometimes you want a tone that's hard to achieve with the pedals you'd use live and vice versa. Back to your question. The RAT would definitely be a more versatile pedal. Since you already got a ram's head, I think I would go for the RAT over the Sovtek. - Bjorn]

  266. david mednick says:

    Why not review/mention Basic Audio’s Tri/Ram pedal. Or Stomp Under Foot’s Civil War. I use both and find them to be excellent. I havent tried Buffalo’s Ram, I’d like to try that one. But you should look at these other 2.

    [Ship them over and I'll make a review :) - Bjorn]

  267. Daniel says:

    Hi Bjorn
    I am interested in buying the Top Tone DG-2 and currently have the Mojo Hand Iron Bell (MIB). In comparing these two, what can the DG-2 do that the MIB cannot? Are these two completely different sounding pedals? I am just trying to justify the price tag on the DG-2.
    Thanks in advance for your advise
    Cheers

    [The DG2 isn't really a Muff. It's very close to the RAT, with lots of mid range and a distinct distortion character. The MIB is a Big Muff, with a slightly more transparent tone, more low end and vintage character. It's tweaked for more mid range and a slightly smoother top, than your usual Muff. - Bjorn]

  268. uwe says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    Thank you for your answer!

    I was actually thinking about the ideal Muff (or RAT) for that Divison Bell Tone. I already own a ram’s head clone as you know, use it for Animals / Wall tones, and my feeling is that it’s abit too transparent for WDYWFM and keep talking tones….

    So, as you suggest and if I should go for a Muff or RAT, only for that division bell tones, what would be your choice , knowing that I don’t want to spend much in the pedal?

    Is the MOOER black secret and it’s vintage mode a good choice? Or should I go for the EH Bass Big Muff (I was about to buy one before reading your previous answer, and before watching the Youtube review by Gearmanndude…). I will be using the pedal only for those Division Bell tones.

    Regards
    Uwe

    [The Mooer is a very good choice I think. It has the original chip and it sounds very smooth and creamy. - Bjorn]

  269. Ernesto says:

    Bjorn,

    Have you tried the products from the pedal builder called Ronsound: he makes a clone of the Rams Head which is called Hairpie 75. ?

    He also makes a clone of the Sovtek model!

    Seems great.

    Bye

    [I've never had the chance to try any of the pedals but they get some really promising reviews. - Bjorn]

  270. Rahul says:

    It’s been a long time since i’m looking fot testing a MUFF, but as incredible as it sounds stores in my country don’t bring then!!!
    Now i bought a nano version! And thanks good i’m reading good stuff about this one, so gonna enjoy it :-D
    Only missing the Tone Guide, why is this page off?

  271. Stefan says:

    Hello M; Riis,

    First of all, I’d like to say congrats for the solo album teaser, really sweet sounding. I did really enjoy the overall feeling, which reminds me a bit of Lunatic Soul, and also Anathema ( violin / e-bow type of leads)…
    I’m longing to listen to the full cd.

    Bjorn, could you tell me what one can expect from the EH Bass Big Muff PI, in terms of its ability of reproducing The Sovtek Big Muff? And what kind of other cheap pedal (RAT Family?…) could do the same job?

    Thank you for your time,

    And keep on creating heavenly melodies!

    Cheers

    Stefan

    [Thanks for your kind words, Stefan! The Bass Muff is VERY close to the late green, early black Sovtek Muffs so it's definitely worth checking out. The Mooer Black Secret is a very nice RAT clone, featuring the classic LM308 chip for smooth tones. - Bjorn]

  272. foffy says:

    Hi Bjorn again,

    I’m looking for an inexpensive pedal that would cover Pulse tones like a sovtek would do?

    Would you recooemnd the EH Bass Big Muff? Is it a great pedal?
    Or the inexpensive Mooer Black secret?

    or what other inexpensive pedal?

    Thank you again!

    Foffy
    Spain

    [The Bass Muff is a good choice. It's also worth checking out the new Deluxe Muff from EHX although I'm not sure about the price yet. - Bjorn]

  273. Cem says:

    Hi Bjorn
    What do you think about the Buffalo Fx evolution? Is it good for any gilmour tones, and would you recommend it?
    Thanks

    [Review coming soon :) - Bjorn]

  274. Michael says:

    Hello again Bjorn!
    I have watched/read your reviews and as always, really appreciated all the information you pass along. Just curious to your personal preference in regards to picking Wren and Cuff Box of War or the Buffalo FX Patriot? Both are really great pedals and I wish I could afford both, but don’t think my wife would appreciate that! Lol! :-)
    Thanks again!

    [Ha ha, I know what you mean :) Between the two I'd choose the Patriot. It fits my set up and I also think it sounds a bit more open and even slightly bigger, than the Box of War. - Bjorn]

  275. Jonas C says:

    Ever messed with the Way Huge Swollen Pickle any? Definitely does the Muff-thing well out of the box, but can be tweaked to resemble almost a Fuzz Face type fuzz too.

    [Never tried it... - Bjorn]

  276. Smurfman256 says:

    I just got my BYOC Large Beaver Ram’s Head in today from “Axe And You Shall Receive” (since I have neither the equipment nor the patience to actually solder the bloody thing together). And while I was quickly able to find a setting that I liked (all settings at 12 and the mid circuit bypassed), I noticed that the moment that I hit the switch, there was a really loud, very distinct, 60Hz buzz. In your review, you said that the thing was “dead silent”. Is this a problem with my amp (5 watt Laney Cub cranked to 10 and the tone set at 3 [I haven't tried it with my 130 watt Peavey yet since I need to get new cones for that or my 65 Twin since it's at my dad's house out of state and won't be moving there till mid July]), my cable (a 15-foot cable of unknown brand; it was probably left behind by a band that played in the barn where I practice), my pedal or some combination of the 3? Also, I use an AC adapter, if that makes any difference.

    Cheers.

    [Unless the pedal is soldered correctly, which I'm sure Axe are more than capable of, there shouldn't be any reason why the pedal it self adds noise. 60 cycle hum is recognised by a loud hiss or hum that changes in pitch and can be eliminated when you move around in a room. If it's static then it's not 60Hz hum. The pedal more pedals you add, the more you expose your rig to noise interference because you're basically adding components and cables that acts like antennas. A Muff also has A LOT of gain, which will amplify the hum. It's always there but you might not have recognised it before you added the pedal. - Bjorn]

  277. Lim says:

    Hi Bjorn.

    I am looking for a versatile muff that can work well with overdrive pedal both in front and after. On its own, I like it to be scooped in the mid range. If I needed extra, I can use the overdrive to fatten things up. Not trying to be Gilmour-tone period correct but just my preference.

    Between Earthquaker Devices Hoof, Blackout Effectors Musket, Mojo Hand Colossus & BYOC Large Beaver, which one will suit my tone? Cheers.

    [Depeneds very much on your amp and guitar. Personally I prefer the BYOC of the ones you've mentioned but the Musket is probably the most versatile. - Bjorn]

  278. Tord says:

    Hey Bjorn. Thanks Bjorn, for so much information on this site! It gives me and i guess many others better understanding of tone and doing ur own style through one of the greatest influence in not only the guitar playing but also tone. Great job, this have helped my alot through the quest of tone, and im finaly there :)

    Now i know that a Big Muff is the one i want in my pedalboard for fuzz-sound. For Echoes, Time and Money mainly (With the bd-2 as a rythm crunch/overdrive). I thought about the Red Muck, but its too expensive and i want a more “Analogman Sunface bc108″-screaming fuzz-sound, that you play funky part on Echoes with in the review. I can’t really explain the sound, therefore i refering to the pedal. I think i mean mid-scooped but i dunno for sure?

    I don’t know what will give me the closest tone for a screaming fuzz-sounding, but ive thought of two who got my intention;
    Byoc Large Beaver(my fav from what ive heard and read through ur review and comments, but i dunno “triangle” or “ram’s head”?????. My first thought was the ram’s head for more aggressive, but i don’t know) (i dont know how it works with a sustain knob, so is it the same as gain/fuzz?)
    and Costalab Custom Muff(i dont know how much that cost, but i like it, and you mentioned full blast fuzz in the review :))

    I will use it with my SD ssl-5 in the neck in my maple neck strat. Now i got a Peavey Vypyr 75, but i will buy a Peavey Classic 30/50 so that will be my basic for my tone with the Bd-2 and the other boss buffers in my chain+Wah wah.

    Like Lim up above, which one will suit my tone and needs??? I hope u answer back!!

    Thanks for last reply, and good luck with the solo project! -Tord

    [The best fuzz-Muff pedal out there, in my humble opinion, is the Earthquaker Hoof Fuzz. It's designed to be somewhat a hybrid with emphasis on the Muff but you can tweak it for some really nice silicon fuzz tones as well. - Bjorn]

  279. Cem says:

    Hi Bjorn
    Which one is better for the 1977-83 tones, the Buffalo Rams Head or the Large Beaver Rams Head?
    Thanks!

    [Hard to tell. Both are great so you just have to choose one. - Bjorn]

  280. Debargho says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    What is the best suited muff type pedal that works great with a Laney CUB 12R and also sits in well with the Dover Drive?
    Whilst I Love the creaminess the DD generates, I would also like something that has more of that typical Gilmour’s muff growl- best suited for the CUb12R. Cheers!

    [Most Muffs works great with the Cub and DD. The most versatile is perhaps the Iron Bell or Musket. Check out the Buffalo Patriot as well. It compliments the DD very well :) - Bjorn]

  281. Ben says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    As much as the Buffalo FX Rams Head is tempting, i’m really after a more budget friendly Muff. As regards the BYOC Large Beaver i’m thinking of the Triangle option for a more generic Gilmour tone for all eras maybe, or would you recommend the Rams Head option? Also, is the assembly tough for a beginner like me, i’m hoping that it’ll be a fun project. It’ll be used with a Laney Cub head and cab i’ve just bought. :)

    All the best,

    Ben.

    [I'm all thumbs so I've never even tried to assemble a pedal :) The triangle is a very musical and smooth sounding Muff but the ram's head is probably a better all-rounder for David's tones. - Bjorn]

  282. Debargho says:

    Ps: could you please suggest the tone settings for the Tc Electronics Feedback delay and the Cub 12R reverb settings for a typical ‘Animals/Wall/MLoR. (Ex:Pigs (three different ones)/comfortably numb/sorrow) tone?
    I should also like to add that in my previous question regarding a suitable fuzz which sits in well with the Dover Drive, I’m mainly looking for tones similar to the above mentioned songs.
    I play a A Strat into a Cub12R. Thanks, Debargho

    [Flasback: delay 11-12:00, level 10:00, feedback 12:00, mode 2290/tape/analog. The reverb on the Cub depends on how much you want really. David never uses reverb. Only delay. Check out my latest review, the Evolution from BUffalo FX :) - Bjorn]

  283. Robert says:

    Hi Bjorn!

    Thanks for all this info. 2 quick questions (hope they already haven’t been asked).

    1. I bought a reissue big muff with little prior research and I agree with your assessment in trying to get a Gilmour sound out of it. Do you know of any electrical mods to get it closer?

    2. In your experience, how do the Ibanez tube screamers pair with muffs as overdrives? I know you really recommend the Boss Blues drivers but I already have an Ibanez tube screamer in hand.

    Thanks in advance!
    Rob

    [I'm no expert on mods, so I'm not sure. Why would you want to mod it? Big Muffs can sound rather harsh on the "wrong" amp but in most cases it's also how the amp is set. Try adjusting the amp's settings and hear how that matches with the Muff. Muffs like a bit of mid range but too much treble can make them sound almost choked.
    In regards to the TS combined with Muffs. I do recommend a more transparent booster but try it and hear how it sounds on your amp. - Bjorn]

  284. Debargho says:

    Thanks for your inputs Bjorn. Unfortunately these pedals are not available where I live. I do however have the option of having one of the these pedals imported: Iron Bell, Earthquaker Hoof or the Skreddy P19. Apologies for seeking some more info on the subject. Which pedal of the three would you suggest, if you have to pick one? In your review of th Iron bell you state that it is somewhere between a Cornish P2 and G2. You also mention in a previous comment that the P19 is somewhat like the Cornish pedals. In another comment above you mention that the Earthquaker Hoof is the best Muff/fuzz out there.
    I really value your reviews and suggestions so Please help me choose between the 3 pedals listed above! Cheers, Debargho

    [Well, all of the three are really great sounding and although being Muffs, they cover different ground within that family. The Iron Bell is perhaps the most versatile being able to do both Muff and RAT/G2 tones. The P19 is perhaps the closest to David's Animals/Wall tones, while the Hoof doubles equally as a Muff and fuzz. Personally, I like the P19. - Bjorn]

  285. Debargho says:

    Thanks for your reply Bjorn. Much appreciated. And thanks for the great review of the Evolution. It would be great if you could do a review of the new Deluxe Big Muff and possibly fare it against some the best boutique muffs listed on your site as well as in my previous questions, above! Thanks for taking the time always, for your replies :)

    [No worries :) I hope to be able to review the new Deluxe :) - Bjorn]

  286. Ian Knim says:

    Greetings, Bjorn! Did you had the opportunity for testing the latest EHX Deluxe BigMuff Pi (which has a “noise gate” type of “extra resource”)? mentioned in your facebook page?

    [Haven't had the chance yet... - Bjorn]

  287. Swamp says:

    I recommend to try the Mad Professor pedals. In my opinion MP has a many excellent choices for the Gilmour sound.

    Fire Red Fuzz (Big Muff)
    Tiny Orange Phaser (phaser and vibe)
    Electric Blue Chorus (for David’s 80′s and 90′s tone)
    Deep Blue Delay (delay time from 25ms to 450ms)
    Forest Green Compressor
    Ruby Red Booster (You can use the pedal as a treble booster, a clean boost or an overdrive unit or any combination of the above. Also it can be used with or without the buffer.)
    Sky Blue Overdrive (good for light overdrive sound)
    Little Green Wonder (MP version of the Tube Screamer, but still a little something else)

    Maybe you should also try these:
    Amber Overdrive (It produces a very thick sound whether playing chords or single notes – fat and juicy with just a hint of fuzz.)
    Mighty Red Distortion (80′s style compressed gain sounds)
    Sweet Honey Overdrive
    Bluebird Overdrive Delay
    Royal Blue Overdrive

    [Thanks for the tip! - Bjorn]

  288. Bryan says:

    Hey Bjorn! After reading your site through, and with your advice, I picked up the Jam Pedals Red Muck and I am 110% satisfied with it! It nails Pulse tones very well given my setup.

    I am again finding myself in need of your expertise. For Wall tones, what pedal would you recommend that is readily available? The Pig Hoof MK2 sounded fantastic, but I’m having a hard time trying one. Or would there be an equally good BYOC pedal / other manufacturer?

    I run DG20′s through a Laney Lionheart (also bought because of your reviews!) with Boss DD7 delay and Boss Ch1 chorus. Those will be going soon in favor of better pedals, but they do work well for what I paid :)

    [Hi Bryan! Sorry for my late reply. The BYOC ram's head is great and nails those late 70s tones perfectly. I also recommend the Buffalo FX Rams Head, which sounds very nice on the Lionheart. Cheers! - Bjorn]

  289. Richard says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    So the ‘noise’ (9/10, 7/10 etc.) rating you list above for each unit, is the higher the first number the noiser the pedal is? Also, in regards to the Wampler Velvet, the demos I have heard don’t sound all that dark and muddy to me. Just curious can’t that ‘muddiness’ be adjusted and controlled with proper settings on the amp and pedal (or with something like a Giggity)? Understand all of this is your opinion, but the Velvet seems to get nothing but great reviews from it’s owners. Are you basing your opinions/experience mainly on Wampler’s ‘Gilmour in a box’ marketing of the Velvet, and that it doesn’t really sound like anything tone-wise David gets?
    Best Regards.

    [The higher the number the less noise. All of my reviews are based on my very subjective opinion and what I would consider are suitable for recreating David Gilmour's tones. My problem with the Velvet Fuzz is that in my opinion it kind of falls between two chairs. I guess what Wampler tried to achieve was the tone of a fuzz or perhaps even a Muff being cranked really hard through a Marshall much like what Hendrix did but also very close to David's setup. What you get is a saturated and compressed tone with a fair amount of mid range. I don't think they completely succeeded in that and there are, in my opinion, better sounding similar pedals out there like the Iron Bell and P19 but also the Evolution, which although based on the G2, is kind of what you get when blending a fuzz with a Marshall. The Velvel Fuzz is a very nice sounding pedal and I'd no problem recording or playing live with it but to me it sounds a bit too squeezed and muddy almost to the extent of sounding choked. The Iron Bell and P19 managed to both produce that stacked tone and maintain the character of a fuzz. - Bjorn]

  290. Zeero says:

    Not sure about how to read the “noise level” value.
    10/10 of the Cornish tell the pedal is more noisy of one judged 7/10, right?

    [10/10 is the highest score, meaning that the pedal it self makes little or no noise. Mind that all gain pedals will make noise when the effect is engaged. I have just rated the amount of noise from the cirquit. - Bjorn]

  291. Dave Talkin says:

    Bjorn congratulations on a brilliant site! I heard the PF track “Sorrow”, the live Pulse version and read about and heard the Buffalo FX Civil War/Sovtek clone “Patriot”.
    This pedal is as close to perfect in what it does out of all the Muff clones I have heard. I am ordering one tomorrow. Had to jump through loads of hoops to get one but once I heard the various demos I was sold. What an incredible, versatile, musical pedal.
    I would like to try it with a BK Butler Tube Driver at some point but was wondering if my heavily modified DOD YJM308 pedal would produce the boosted tones to help out the Patriot.
    Is it common to place the booster after the Patriot in the signal chain or before?
    Again what a great site and with a Gilmourish rating of 10/10 I feel I cannot lose with the Buffalo pedal.
    It appears to be a first class effort in build quality and high grade components are used throughout.
    Will write back with my findings. I am so excited about this pedal, more so than any other for a long long time!
    Cheers Dave

    [Hi Dave! Sorry for my late reply. The Patriot is awesome. Highly recommended! Not sure how it compares to the DOD but in regards to stacking, you could either just let it operate on its own or, as I prefer it, have a very mild and transparent booster placed after it. Cheers! - Bjorn]

  292. James says:

    Hi Bjorn, I just can’t make up my mind which pedal to buy, so I need your humble opinion. It’s between the buffalo rams head, skreddy P19 and the Buffalo Effects Patriot. If you had to choose one for David’s tone which one would it be.? Thanks

    [The Buffalo and P19 are similar while the Patriot is a slightly different character. Depends on what tones you want and how the pedal fits your guitar and amp. Based on the pedal it self I'd go for the Patriot. - Bjorn]

  293. foffy says:

    Hello Senor Bjorn,

    I’d like to have your advice: I’m about to buy a Bass Big Muff Pi from EH. I’ve seen that there’s a new model , Nano version.

    On ebay I can order the old version and the Nano for the same price. Do you know if it’s the same circuit exactly?

    What would you choose? There’s no comparison clip on youtube, no article found…

    Thanks for your help!

    Foffy

    [As far as I know it's the same ciruit. - Bjorn]

  294. Dimitri says:

    hey Bjorn, have you tried the maxon D&S Distortion/Sustainer its tells its a nice refined Big Muff, is it a nice rams head clone?

    [Haven't had the chance yet. - Bjorn]

  295. Roger Sartori says:

    Hi, Bjorn.
    Apparently, brazilians like to build various clone pedals. For people who wants to have a Musket pedal and think it’s too expensive, there’s this guy who build a very good clone (with customized Pink Floyd graphics), I attest it: https://www.facebook.com/DartaEffects?fref=nf
    Cheers.

  296. Dave Talkin says:

    Bjorn, thanks for the reply. Yesterday I received my incredible Buffalo FX Patriot pedal through the most excellent Rogue Guitars here in the US.
    Where do I begin to describe the tone of this pedal.
    I used my 1983 Fullerton ’57 reissue Strat, my blackie that I ordered from new.
    I am using a Marshall 1959HW 100 watt Super Lead amp that has has component upgrades by the great George Metropoulos of Metro Amps.
    I have what is called a Dagnall Clone output transformer, F&T filter caps, Sozo signal caps, Allen Bradley carbon comp resistors in key areas, the bright cap taken out of circuit, Mullard EL34 reissue and Tung Sol 12AX7 reissue valves.
    I am running a Metropolous True Replica 4X12″ cabinet which is a direct copy of a 1968 Marshall 1982A cabinet down to .001 of an inch in accuracy.
    The same woods and internal bracing as a real ’68 Marshall.
    http://plexireplicas.com/true-replica-cabinets/1968-basketweave-cabinets/
    Speakers are the very recent Celestion Creamback G12H-75′s @ 16 ohms.
    I have a rare Japanese issue Maxon ST-01 Super Tube Screamer which has 2 of the JRC chips and a fourth tone control for mids-bass.
    I have a Boss DD-6 Digital Delay with Analogman mods, specifically a 3 position toggle switch which has stock, high cut and low cut positions. The cut positions simulate an analogue style of delay giving much warmth to the tone.
    I have a Fulltone Mini Deja Vibe as well.
    The Patriot immediately drove the amp even at low volumes in very musical feedback exactly like the Sorrow track which I have studied practically every version of!
    I know adding more effects will boost the effectiveness of the Patriot even more closely to that of DG.
    I would give this pedal a Gilmourish rating of 12/10 if possible.
    Never have I had an effect so dialed in as this one right out of the box.
    It sounds great with the stock Fender pickups, I’m sure a DG set of EMG’s would sound great but I don’t think I will need them.
    Again this pedal is just incredible and I am excited learning the songs it deserves to be played on.
    Thanks for a great web site.
    I can say when I plugged the Patriot straight in…instantly I

    [Thanks for sharing, Dave! Glad you like the Patriot :) - Bjorn]

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