EMG DG20 review
It’s easy to forget David’s red Strat after the Black’s triumphant return but the guitar and not least its tone is a favorite among many fans. The magic behind its tone is created by the unique active EMG SA pickups with the SPC and EXG tone controls. Love them or hate them – here’s my review.
It’s been awhile since I last tried the SA pickups. It was during a period when I was trying out new pickups for my main Strat and I was quite honestly very disappointed by their sound. I settled for Fender Custom Shop 54 and later the 69s with the Duncan SSL5 bridge pickup. A setup that suited my style and taste better. But after all these years I thought it was in its place to refresh my memory. I installed the set in my new Fender CIJ 62 Strat and gave it a new shot.

Contrary to what one might think, the DG20 is not designed for David or his specifications. They originate from 1979 when EMG introduced the SA pickups. The SA is an active single coil pickup with alnico 5 magnet, internal shielding and a slightly higher output than the typical vintage style single coils like CS69 or CS54. After several tours dealing with noise interference and signal loss due to growing rigs David installed the SA’s in several of his new Fender American Vintage reissue 57 Strats that he’d bought in early 1984 (both of the cream/blondes and at least two candy apple reds). He also equipped the guitars with the SPC and EXG active tone controls. The set was “premiered” at the Live Aid concert in 1985 where David played guitar with Bryan Ferry. Since then the pickups have been used on A Momentary Lapse of Reason (1987), Delicate Sound of Thunder (1988), Division Bell (1994), PULSE (1995), On An Island (2006), Remember That Night (2007), Live in Gdansk (2008) and countless guest appearances and recordings.
The DG20 comes neatly packed in a box with a picture of David on it. The first thing you notice though when you open the box is the ugly pearl pickguard. I have no idea why EMG chose this but I soon replaced mine with a white 3-ply. The whole setup is super easy to install with EMG’s Solderless Install System. Every wire feature a clip that’s easily fastened. No messy soldering needed. The 9V battery fits nicely into the guitar’s cavity and if you remember to unplug the jack cable when you don’t use the guitar you’ll have the battery for ages.
I plugged the guitar straight into my trusty Sound City with the EXG and SPC controls neutral (set to 0, 10 is max) and hit the first chord. I must admit that my first thought was that they sounded much more like regular Strat pickups than I remembered. Still my impression is about the same as I got all those years ago. With the SPC and EXG set neutral these pickups sounds dull and flat. I know many disagree with this but it’s my honest opinion. In the neutral position I would have wanted them to sound a bit more open with more character. A huge plus though is that they’re dead silent.

The EXG (Guitar Expander) tone control acts just like a “smiling” EQ. The more you increase the control the more you boost the treble and bass while scooping the mids. This works great for cleans and mild overdrives where you want to add a bit more brightness and balls without having to use a compressor squeezing the hell out of your tone. Again I would have wanted the effect to compensate a bit more for the fact that the pickups alone sound dull but it really makes a difference. One thing I’ve noticed though is that when you turn past 6-7 you’ll get a lot of hiss due to the increased treble so you might not want to go that high. On my rig the sweetspot is around 5 where the EXG adds just enough brightness without the boosted bass making everything muddy. All in all this is a feature I don’t use that much.
The main reason I wanted to try the DG20 once more was the SPC (Strat Presence Control) feature. Is the legend true? Does it really create the magic everybody keeps raving about? It’s obviously been too long since I last played with the DG20. After setting the SPC control (lower tone knob) to about 7, as David mostly does, I was instantly brought back to when I saw Pink Floyd performing in Earl’s Court on my TV in late 1994. I was totally mesmerized by seeing and hearing David play the opening on Shine On You Crazy Diamond. That fat, smooth, warm bluesy tone was now coming out of my amp! Without wasting anymore time I plugged my guitar into my pedal board, kicked in some compression, mild overdrive and delay and started on the top of the list – Coming Back to Life, Another Brick in the Wall, Breathe… all with PULSE in mind. This is the tone!
The SPC boosts the mid range while slightly reducing the highs. The effect creates a tone similar to a humbucker with a single coil flavor. Much like the P90s although not quite. The effect is just incredibly versatile adding more presence, power and character to most of my tones. One of my issues with the Tube Driver has always been that it lacks a bit mid range. The SPC adds just the amount the pedal needs and smoothes out the sometimes harsh overtones. The SPC also works great with a Big Muff (triangle especially) adding that little extra that makes the Muff sing. The SPC is extremely responsive and while I mostly keep it around 7-8 it can be used as an expression control adding dynamics while you play (as David is seen doing).
There’s a couple of things you can do if you’re not a DG20 fan but still want some of the PULSE tone. Pickups like Fender CS69, 54, Fat 50s, Duncan SLL5 and all similar lack that slight humbucker touch and the boosted, creamy mid range. This can be achieved by using pedals with a boosted mid range character. Switch the Big Muff with a RAT for your leads and the Tube Driver, Colorsound Powerboost or Boss BD2 with a Maxon OD808/Ibanez TS808 or TS9 for the overdrive tones. You can also add an EQ pedal in your rig either after the gain effects or more effectively first in your chain (or after any fuzz units) set to boost the mid range with a hint of treble cut (keep in mind that if you place one EQ first in the chain, you should have a second unit placed after the gain pedals if you want to effectively EQ these). These substitutes won’t be the actual thing but you’ll get a tone somewhat similar.
So, have I become a believer? Well, I still prefer my CS69s but the DG20 is still in my 62 Strat. I’ve often had a hard time recreating some of the sounds I’ve recorded with humbuckers (with my band Airbag) and the SPC in particular allows me to use a Strat on stage and get the fat tone I need. I also see my self using the guitar on a lot of stuff on our new album that we’re about to record. As for David’s tones I still stand by my initial opinion that the DG20 is not suited for the 70s and present tones, i.e. the Black Strat. As David him self discovered in 2005 they just doesn’t sound Straty enough and you’d want that vintage flavor for Pompeii, Dark Side, Animals etc. However, the DG20 are essential for recreating that authentic Delicate/PULSE tone. If you’re a fan of this era – the moment you try them you’ll realize that you’ve struck gold. One of my favorite DG20 moments is when David cranks the Tube Driver, turn the SPC all the way up and switches over to the neck pickup. The tone he gets is simply indescribable!












Awesome Bjorn! I have been pondering myself whether i should by the set or not. That fat bluesy neck pickup tone is just awesome! I love it!I still have my very first guitar, a strat copy which has crappy electronics and hardware. Many times I have thought about putting the DG20 set in with a Callaham bridge assembly. Hmmmm I may have to blow the dust off of it and get to work lol.
[Now you have a reason :) - Bjorn]
Excellent review! I love David’s red strat tone, and that Shine On tone is absolute heaven. Those videos of him playing blues songs with B.B. King and I’m not sure who it is, but that video of him doing I Put A Spell On You.
;) Those texas blues tones are overplayed, we need more Gilmour blues tones running around.
[Agree! I Put A Spell On You is with Mica Paris and Jools Holland.- Cheers! - Bjorn]
Glad you rediscovered them Riis. Man they really changed the way the underside looks on the system from back when I got mine.
[I've never seen the old ones so I can't really tell but the new solderless system works great. Especially for someone like me who's allergic to soldering LOL! I must admit that I was pretty excited with the SPC especially and I'm glad I gave them a new chance. As I said in the review though I like them for some stuff but I still prefer the CS69 and SSL5. It's nice to have different sounding guitars anyway. - Bjorn]
Nice article. I wondered if you would ever try these again. I tried them for a few months several years back, could not get on with them and sold them. Last year I decided to give them another go and bought set to put in my spare strat. I decided I liked them for certain things. Enough to keep them.
They do sound great for the neck pickup/Tube Driver stuff, but for bridge pickup Big Muff stuff I never thought they sounded as good as my SSL-5. The SPC just makes a muddy mess of my tone if I go over 5. I just don’t hear what everyone else hears with the SPC I guess. I actually prefer the bridge tone when both EXG and SPC are off, as long as I have a Boss CS-2 compressor going. They do nail Pulse pretty well with the CS-2, CW Muff, CE-2, and delay.
I can make the EMG SA pups sound really great by adjusting my amp and a few pedal settings to work better with them, but then I find my black strat with vintage pups does not sound right and have to change them back, so I keep them somewhere in the middle.
Based on my examination of David’s knob positions in Pulse he seems to always have the EXG off. His SPC settings vary.
Coming Back to Life first solo is 1, second and third solos around 4.5.
For SOYCD I can’t see it clearly in Pulse, but listening I think it is off. In the Gdansk DVD you can see it is clearly set around 2.
Sorrow solos are 5, and for the outro phrase (same as intro) he cranks it to 10.
Comfortably Numb is set around 5 for both solos.
[Well I agree with you completely. The pickups works for some stuff but I definitely prefer the SSL5 bridge PU especially for my Muff tones. The SPC is very sensitive to which amp you're using. It works great on my Sound City and Reeves but sounds quite muddy on the Marshall 5210 I have at home but then again this is a transistor amp. - Bjorn]
I had a Mexican Strat with the DG20s installed and really liked them. I also have a 1989 Clapton Signature Strat (with the Gold Lace puckups) and though they sounded a LOT alike! In my opinion, the Clapton setup had more “balls” behind it.
I ended up selling the other Strat and kept the Clapton Strat, later adding the Custom Shop model to it. I would definitely recommend the DG20 as a great upgrade. The sound great even in a regular Mexican Strat.
I can still get a decent “Pulse” sound using only my Clapton Strat and Fender Frontman 25 watt amp.
Keep up the good work!
I’ve always been more of a fan for the EMG’s then any other pickups. The Gilmour set is on both of my fender strats. They sound awesome. Love the piece on the EMG’s. Keep up the good work Bjorn. Cheers.
[Thanks Tim! - Bjorn]
Nice review Bjorn!
It give a lot of informations =)
happy to read that review!
Thanks a lot!
Raphaël
[Cheers! - Bjorn]
Thanks, Riis! That was very interesting. Maybe someday you can put up a youtube clip so we can compare the sound to the Fender pups when played through your rig?
[Thanks! I'll try to record something! - Bjorn]
Hey Bjorn.A very well written and informative review one could also use the word educational.Nice new guitar mate.So a new Airbag album is to be expected soon then,I look forward to it.Are you gonna be playing any of the new tracks in Holland.All the best to you and the band with the Album.Have a great 2010 !
[Thanks! We're working on the new album but it's way too early to tell when it'll be finished. We're hoping that we can start sessions this summer and have the album ready around this time next year... we're not very effective but then again we've learned that from Floyd LOL! Cheers! - Bjorn]
As usual, Bjorn, good and complete review.
I installed this EMG set 4 years ago on my Japanese Red Stratocaster. Last year I changed the SA Bridge pick up for an EMG Humbucker 89 (which can be splitted with a Quickswitch). I did this for more versatility.
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/9528/dsc02294b.jpg
I also installed a Graphtech Piezo and the Roland GK3 Hexaphonic Divided Pickup.
[Thanks for the tip Seb! - Bjorn]
Great review! I’ve always been interested in those pickups, but never picked up a set.
For many years I’ve had an early Clapton strat with Lace Sensors and the Clapton mid-boost – this setup gets a very similar sound to the DG EMG set, to my ears. It is a wonderful thing when the mid-boost gets dialed in, hey? I would suggest to your readers that if they don’t want to go whole-hog and use EMG pickups, the Clapton mid-boost kit _is_ in fact available on its own from Fender, and can be used with _any_ pickup and installed in any strat. It’s been my secret weapon for years – I’ve had it installed in every strat I’ve ever had. Just a suggestion!
As for the DG20 set… I’ve strongly considered putting a set in a second Black Strat (so, with black pickguard, etc) as a backup guitar to be used in venues where there is a lot of noise. Seems to me like a very sneaky way to combat the hum.
[Thanks for the tip Josh! The EMG controls can't be used with other pickups so this might be a good alternative. - Bjorn]
Very nice review Bjorn! You have certainly perked my interest and I am curious to try some of these out for myself.”
Which performance were you referring to in the last couple sentences?
Thanks :)
(Also, where would one go about asking a general question?)
[I was basically just referring to the tone in general. There are lots of those moments but I Put A Spell On You with Mica Paris is one that comes to mind. You can post general Qs anywhere or feel free to send me an e-mail. Cheers! - Bjorn]
very good bjorn. i have been using these for 20 years and am still in awe of them and rarely use my black strat on stage. i recall during the debut at live aid that david was having alot of trouble with his guitar, eventually having a stagehand bring a new guitar out to him during the song jealous guy i think. may have been a flat battery but i would love to know for sure what the problem was. once again bjorn it is always a pleasure to read your thoughts. long may it continue
[Thanks Marty! It was actually a different guitar that stopped working during Sensation, Ferry's opening number. Looks like a sunburst '57 reissue with vintage pickups. In the middle of the song David is handed the red Strat with the EMGs :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q56jUEwdkcM&feature=related - Bjorn]
Nice review. A few years ago I switched to the DG20 in my main Strat, my 89 American Standard and never looked back. It absolutely nails the eras you stated. While giving up some of the “pure” Strat tones is a concern, I find it makes the guitar more versatile and able to cover more sonic ground. I can use my Strat to get decent humbucker tones that a regular one can’t do. Overall I’m pleased with the set. Being older I don’t have the quick connect setup but all I had to solder was the output jack and I was up and running. Oh and you’re also very correct about the pickups by themselves. The SPC and EXG are the keys to making this system come alive.
[Yeah, I think the pickups alone are not worth it. You have to have the whole set to get that magical tone. Cheers! - Bjorn]
I have used EMGs ever since I got my first Strat (a Mexican Standard) back in 1997. My first exposure to David’s tone was during the Division Bell/Pulse era, so that has always been my favorite. My first Strat had 2 EMG SAs (Bridge/Mid) and an SV (Neck) and I also had an SPC installed with it. I absolutely loved them, but that guitar was stolen. When I bought its replacement (the Strat I’m currently using – a 1998 California Series) I decided to get it in Candy Apple Red and put a set of DG-20s in it. I have loved it ever since. I rarely use the EXG but every once in a while it helps for rhythms. I play a lot of classic rock/blues covers in my band Plastic Saints and I find the DG-20s incredibly versatile for that stuff as well as for our originals. I’m glad you finally went back and revisited them and gave them some love!! Thanks for the review!
[Cheers Brandon! - Bjorn]
Bjorn,
Thank you for the great review once again! I was just wondering, what is the difference between the DG20 and “hotter” blues single coils?
Also, off topic (sorry), I love the Echos solo on Remember That Night where David used the G-2. Is there anything you could recommend that is similar to the G-2?
Thanks!
[The DG20 is perhaps closer to the Texas Special than 69s but in my oppinion they're hard to compare with most single coils. As I said in the review I think the neutral position is weak and dull, while the SPC makes them sound more like humbuckers than anything else. That being said, the SPC makes them ideal for blues.
You could use a Muff, perhaps a Sovtek for a slighty fatter and more saturated tone. I also get very similar tones with a RAT boosted by a transparent overdrive like the Tube Driver, Colorsound Powerboost or Boss BD2. - Bjorn]
Bjorn, in answer to your reply to Joe, here’s a pic of my 2002 EMG DG20 kit. You’ll notice how things changed compared to the pic you post in your article.
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/5756/microsemg02.jpg
I mostly use these pickups in my band nowadays since they are quite silent. I couldn’t deal with the hum of my passives single coils anymore. While playing with overdriven tones, I tend to add a bit of chorus with these EMGs to bring some life to them.
But I agree with you, they don’t have that passive single coil mojo, and I still prefer my CS’54 kit. But no hum… And SPC!
[Thanks for the pic! - Bjorn]
The Red strat EMG system can do things the black strat can’t do and the black strat can do things the red one can’t do ;-)
I love them both.
I fell in love with this huge EMG sound I heard during a PF concert in stadium in 1994. What do you want, SOYCD, SORROW, CN, etc, etc, …
Play the EMG with the right amp and pedals, like boosting a CWM with a TD and PULSE here we come ;-)
Here’s my EMG demo:
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/audio/play/80860770
(guitar solo starts at 2:08)
Or this demo: http://www.ebaumsworld.com/audio/play/80780206
(Rams Head BYOC + CE-2)
[Thanks for sharing the clips! Nice playing! - Bjorn]
Hey Bjorn,
Always a pleasure to read your articles and blogs.
I must admit I have always been sceptical about the ‘post-Waters’ tone, (until the Black Strat return). I bought Floyd’s records nonetheless and saw them live in Italy in 1994 and, although that was an unforgettable experience, I found the sound a bit artificial. A great sound of course, but a bit too fabricated.
But your article now has made me curious about these pups, and the low hum perspective is intriguing.
Would you recommend the EMGs for home practice setups or is it a bit of a waste with small transistor amps? You said they sound dull on your Marshall. Ciao.
[Well, I agree but I must say that I like the pickups more now than last time I tried them. They're great for some stuff while I prefer the vintage style pickups for other things. The EMGs are hot and whether or not they work on smaller amps depends entirely on the amp. I wouldn't recommend them if your amp tends to distort easily. However they can also compensate for some of the tone you'll miss when you need to play at low volume at home. - Bjorn]
Great Review and, when did you put a rosewood neck on the other strat??? or is that a new guitar?
[It's a new Fender CIJ '62 reissue. - Bjorn]
Very interesting review, thanks.
One day I’ll have to try, not only for David’s sound, but for Marillion guitarist Steve Rothery fantastic sound during 80’s and 90’s…(EMG SA and Jc 120….)
In response to your last comment reply…Didnt they stop making CIJ strats? Id love to pick up a second guitar and you and others have highly recommended them but I have heard they arent made anymore making them somewhat sought after. Is this true?
Also, on a separate note. What do you think David is doing here right before 4:35 and after. He does something right at that point and his following tone is AMAZING. Any ideas? ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4kgBpgoQaU )
[I think they're still making CIJs but they stoped using MIJ some years ago. He's switching over to the neck pickup. Cheers! - Bjorn]
I am very interested that you have got another strat – and with a rosewood board this time. How does it compare to your other strats and why did you buy a CIJ rather than a USA RI or a MIM ? I am looking at getting another strat myself, so i’d be interested to hear your views.
[I've sold the 70's Strat, which was a MIM. I liked it but it wasn't really what I needed. The new '62 reissue is fantastic. Couldn't be happier. I love Japanese Fenders. They're just as good as the US models and they're cheaper. In my opinion the US guitars over priced much due to the US stamp. Japanese guitars are gaining more and more recognition although Fender US closed down the export from Japan years ago. MIMs can be great but you have to really know what you're looking for and spend some time finding a good piece. Check out this article for more info. - Bjorn]
Bjorn! Now that you have this set of dg-20 in one of your guitars, and I’m guessing you still have the dg-1, y’think you could do some sound clips or videos giving us a good achievable PULSE tone?
:) Pretty please?
[I have lots of YouTube clips planned for the coming months. Stay tuned :) - Bjorn]
Hi Bjorn,
I spent a long time deciding which pick ups I wanted to install in my start and finally settled on the EMG SA’s. To be honest I was really disappointed with the sound of the EMG SA’s on their own, they just seemed so flat and didn’t have that Bell like tone EMG promised.
Recently, I bought the EXG and SPC modules separately and installed them in my guitar. They have totally transformed the sound. For me the best tone is reached having the EXG set between 2-3 and the SPC between 8-10.
Thanks for the great site
[My oppinion exactly. - Bjorn]
Bjorn-
Haha is that really all he is doing? I could definitely hear the tonal differences as that had taken place but it seems like there was something else..
[I think that's all he does. The rest of the song is with the bridge pickup and you can see he's switching over for 20-30 sec and then back to the bridge. Perhaps he's kicking in the compressor as well but I'm not sure. - Bjorn]
Excelent Article Bjorn. Although I really love the SOYCD tone of Pulse, generally speaking I rather the sound of the pasive single coils (for me the sound of the SSL-5 is priceless), therefore I wouldn’t buy a pick up set and modify a guitar for playing just one song, I rather try to get the tone with a EQ.
I wonder who suggested to switch from the red Strat to the Black for Live 8. A DG decision? Phil Taylor doesn’t say. Tim Renwick or Jon Carin? Why If they toured twice with DG playing the red one? A PF member? Prehaps, but which? I don’t think that NM cares to much, Roger Waters doesn’t seem to care too (just hear the guitar tones from his tours). That said, for me maybe it was Rick Wright for the tone or Roger Waters for the tone and/or the spirit of the event. Does anyone who knows the truth?
[Taylor mentions this in the Black Strat book "The favoured red Strat had been used for the first two days of rehearsal at Black Island Studio, London. During the third day it was suggested that David should try the Black Strat, as he had used it on the original recordings of these songs. He put down the red one and began playing the Black Strat." It doesn't say who suggested it but I'd assume it was Phil. None of the others would have cared or remember... or so I think. - Bjorn]
Hey Bjorn, Still in the process of setting up my wall tone, I have a BYOC triangle muff and a Keeley BD-2 blues driver, where should I have the gain and tone knobs on the BD-2 when I’m using it a s a clean boost?
[Depends entirely on your amp, volume, pickups etc. I normally set the BD2 right in the sweetspot before it breaks. Just a hint of crunch with a slight volume boost... not much. The tone is backed off to around 10:00. - Bjorn]
Has been a while since I last stopped in. Very cool article here, makes me want to try a set for myself. Also really enjoyed the stuff on David’s Les Pauls.
But, reason I post here is due to some news out of the NAMM show. I don’t know how aware you are of the company Tech 21, but they’re the people behind the Sansamp pedal/preamp/directbox thing that’s been around since the late 80s. Anyway, last year they introduced a line of pedals emulating a certain family of amps, the Character series. Uses analog modeling, if that makes sense. First five were the Blonde (Fender, blackface through tweed), the British (Marshall), the Liverpool (Vox), the California (vintage Mesa Boogie), and the VT Bass (Ampeg).
Reason I bring it up is they’re putting out some new ones this year, including the Leeds, which emulates Hiwatts. They go over it a bit in this video here, and though they’re focusing more on the Pete Townshend Hiwatt tone the pedal NAILS it. So I would expect Gilmour cleans could be easily and authentically gotten.
Having owned the Blonde model for about a month now, I’ll stake whatever reputation I have on endorsing these. They’re BRILLIANT pedals. The Blonde sounds like, FEELS LIKE real Fender amps, cops blackface, blonde, oxblood, tweed vibe, does everything. And now I find out they’re putting a Hiwatt out, my lust can hardly be contained. ;)
Just wanted to pass along something I can’t frickin’ wait for. Hope life is treating you well, man.
[Thanks for stopping by and for the tip! Tech 21 makes some really cool stuff! I haven't seen these new pedals before but the Leeds sounds very promising. I'd assume that it's very similar to a Colorsound Powerboost and the Tube Driver. I'll definitely check it out! Cheers! - Bjorn]
I have actually purchased a set before xmas and im loving the tones… my only problem is deciding to put a hole in the back of my strat to have easy access to the battery or just leaving it… how long does the battery tend to last ive been told up to 5 hours
[5 hours? I don't have much experience with using active pickups over a long period but I've been using the EMGs for at least 100 hours now and the battery is working fine. I'd assume that the battery will last up to a year with around 2 hours play a day. - Bjorn]
Thanks again Bjorn for your well rounded criticism of the DG-20 set, but I have to disagree with you on a few points:
1. I prefer the pearliod pickguard over a plain jane standard white pickguard any day! (He he). I personally do not want a guitar that looks exactly like David’s, just his tones.
2. I think the DG-20 is the best, well I think the SA’s and the SPC are absolutely fantastic (the EXP is always off – because of the Tube EQ in my pedal chain)and wouldn’t think of using anything else in a strat. ( I have the DG-20 on two custom made strats) I use an Electro Harmonix TUbe EQ with two Tung-sol 12ax7’s in my pedal chain so I have no need to boost the bass and treble anymore. I don’t know whether anyone else uses the TUbe EQ pedal in their EQ section of their chain, if they don’t they should!!! I simply cannot play without it.!! Give it a try Bjorn !!!
[Thanks for the tip! Never tried the EH EQ. My criticism over the pearl pickguard has nothing to do with Gilmour just my taste towards pickguards :) The pearl is ugly but that's my opinion anyway :) Cheers! - Bjorn]
Bjorn, how close would a modern Clapton strat be to a Stratocaster with the EMGs? I’m thinking of getting one, or making one to those specs.
[I've never tried the EC my self but it has a mid range booster which would work about the same as the SPC feature. - Bjorn]
I’m really considering getting a new guitar just to put some EMG’s in but i do think my overdrive tones is very similiar to 90’s gilmour just buy using the Am Std strat whose pickups are fairly middy, guitar>mxr dynacomp>ts-808>fulltone ocd (clean boost)>dd7>Fender hot rod deluxe (boosted the mids on amp slightly).
the combination of the ts-808 and the fulltone ocd (by the way which is a very transparent and powerful overdrive! thoughts?) is very very reminicent of that super thick gilmour sound on the neck pickup neck pick-up. i love it!
[Personally I'm not a huge fan of the Standard Strats and the pickups. I think you're way better off in terms of Gilmour's sound with either the EMGs or something a bit more vintage like CS69 or some Duncan SSLs or similar. The Fulltone is a great pedal with some of the same characteristics of the Tube Driver and Colorsound Powerboost. - Bjorn]
Hey Bjorn,just read your comment over on the Dg gear forum that you bought your 62 strat from Ebay, was that from America or Europe,i was wondering if you got clobbered for a big cost when picking it up ! Or if its a second hand product does the this mean its exempt.Its sort of stopping me as god knows what it would cost this end when i went to pick it up.
[Bought it from Katana Guitars located in Japan. High score on EBay, super fast delivery and reasonable shipping costs. Highly recommended. - Bjorn]
Hey Bjorn!
Love the site, what do you think of the EMG’s through your Marshall? I use an AVT at home, and I can get a good tone through all my pedals with passive p/ups, but am considering these. What do u think?
Cheers!
[My Marshall has lots of headroom so it's no problem getting Hiwattish tones. I've tried the EMGs on other amps that tend to brek up more easily and they get a bit too hot for my taste. - Bjorn]
Peolple, if your aftre a strat type guitar with EMG SA’s in check out the Court G290. I have one and its a great guitar! You get a lot for your money! People in the UK can get them here http://www.richardsguitars.co.uk He is a great guy and his customer service is outstanding. My guiter came with an impecable setup! Take a look!
well, björn, your article finally turned me on to my own set of dg-20’s. just got my red strat back from the luthier, pickups in place, I had to just re-adjust a little bit in order to make them a little less boomy. all in all I second every line you wrote about the exg and spc controls, rather flat if turned to zero, a bit pale and lifeless, but turned to the respective sweet spots ( my exg comes in at 5 as well, spc around 6 to 8 depending on which pu I dial in) and there you go.
I really really like them, have to spend a lot more time, but I now totally get the point of these. only tried them with my home setup so far, but I can already imagine how they will open up with my band setup, sadly no chance to take them to the edge at home, the whole house would come after me ;)).
it’s interesting to find that very crystal clear clean balanced sound we know from pulse, it’s within a rather small area with the dg-20’s, that kind of suprises me. but again I have to take it to my band’s pedalboard I will get a signifcantly enhanced impression there, I lack a clean treble booster at home, using the byoc tri-boost at the moment, and a proper preamp, which is essential for me. but again, so far, even with my home setup I am already impressed and I can really feel, and most importantly comfortably feel, the direction they are pointing into….
so, thanks for your great, great review, really helped me to make a long pondered decision.
cheers,
bernhard
[Glad it worked out for you Bernhard! I'm starting to really appreciate these pickups my self. Use them a lot. Cheers! - Bjorn]
hey there again,
hmm, I sort of have to relativize my initial happiness as I seem to run into a rather strange and somewhat ugly problem.
I have installed the dg-20’s in my eric johnson strat, which is based on a 57 body. the thing is that the cavities for the pickups don’t seem deep enough to put the pu’s into a low enough setting, e.g. like david’s setting, and even from an objective point of view, I am running too hot with the pu’s, especially in the neck position. (the johnson pu’s are much flatter in construction than the dg-20’s, so they fit).
I am baffled to be honest, I never imagined the cavities not deep enough for any pu that would fit in any other strat…
has anybody else ever run into problem like that, with any other guitar, and the question also is, is there any other solution except carving out the cavities (which btw. I wouldn’t mind to I reckon) ?
thanks and cheers!
bernhard
[You're certain it's the depth of the cavity? I had problems with fitting all the wires etc and nearly gave up trying to get everything in there but it worked out somehow. My PUs are 5-6mm off the pickguard, aprox like David's. - Bjorn]
thanks bjorn! yes, the wires are a bit of an issue too, as the let you loose 1 or 2 mm extra depth as they are running underneath the pickups, especially irritating in regard to the neck pu.
I am mostly concerned with the bass side, I have taken two pics, bass and treble side, images here
http://inlinethumb38.webshots.com/47077/2430823470086287242S600×600Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb35.webshots.com/44002/2142015150086287242S600×600Q85.jpg
as I mention, the neck pu is my biggest concern, which is approx. 6mm from the pickguard and 4,5 – 5mm from the strings on the bass side, on the treble side approx 4mmm from the pu and equally 4 from the strings. middle pu bass side is 4,5 mm from the pg and 5 from the strings, all in the lowest possible setting, I can’t go lower than that, as the pu is hitting the bottom of the cavity.
I am using an 8 hole 1 ply pickguard (original eric johnson), and I know you are using a 3 ply with your new strat, but I checked the pulse dvd, pu settings there look a lot lower than my bass side with david’s 1 ply pg.
I know this seems a little pedantic ;), but my concerns are mostly about the fact that I would like to get more room on the bass side of e.g. the neck pu, again also taking into account that I want to go lower on the bass than on the treble side with leaving enough room to the strings on each side…
thanks again, your input is greatly appreciated!
bernhard
[I've tried a couple of heights and I don't think it matters that much. EMG reccomends that the PUs are as close to the strings as possible but that's a bit too boomy for me. A mm or two either way doesn't make much of a difference but that might depend on your amp etc too. You can also compensate to some extent by using the EXG and boosting the highs. - Bjorn]
I got the EMG DG20 about 6 years ago. At first i was frustrated: my std stratocaster sounded more like SOYCD with the original pickups than with the EMG’s. Of course that in itself is no big surprise, but i wanted my old strat tone back! Going back turned out to quite hard because of the noise the original strat pickups produce when exposed to electric light. On the upside, i really do *love* the sound the neck pickup gives with the SPC about halfway and the EXG almost completely down. For funky sounds i turn the SPC down and take the EXG to about three. It works fine, but somehow the standard single coils still performs better for funky rifs.
To arnni: 5 hours battery time is incorrect. I had them in for well over a year before i decided to change the battery: the difference was hardly audible.
[There's always pros and cons with all pickups. I use the EMGs a lot with my band Airbag. They allow me to replicate some of those humbucker sounds I recorded but still with the single coil flavour. On some stuff though I prefer the CS69 and SSL5 setup on my main Strat. Noise isn't really an issue if you ground the PUs properly and shield the cavity. My main Strat is as quiet as the EMGs and the CS69s are known to be quite noisy.
According to EMG, the 9V battery should last well over a year with 3-5 hours playing each day. Just remember to unplug the instrument cable when you're not playing. - Bjorn]
would you consider using the SPC with your vintage pickups in order to get an extra sound or is that a mismath.
Joe
[It's not that easy with the new EMG system but personally I'd keep two different guitars anyway. - Bjorn]
Thanks for a great article Bjorn. I have a candy apple red 57 reissue strat and have been considering installing a set of DG20’s for a while. I too am not keen on the pearl pickguard and was wondering how easy it is to swap it over for a plain pickguard. Is any soldering required?
Thanks
Alan
[Nope. Just the screws holding the pickups, knobs etc. - Bjorn]
hi, sorry for my english, but i’ve a question, it’s related to the DG-20 so..these EMGs can be use on a different guitar model?? ..for example, Yamaha Pacifica with DG-20 or Ibanez Gio with DG-20. etc. or it’s just exclusive for Fender??..
and, what’s the influence on sound of a maple fingerboard v/s rosewood fingerboard with DG-20??
thanks for your answers..
[The EMGs will fit any guitar that has three single coils like a Fender Strat. Maple has a slightly brighter tone compared to rosewood. - Bjorn]
JUst a note to let you know that there is a less expensive alternative to the EMG DG20 set and it is made by Dragon guitars . The cost is about half of what the EMG set is and does require a minimum of soldering (the input jacvk must be unsoldered then re-soldered after passing the wires through the body rout.
I was amazed how much my Strat now sounds like David’s Red Strat. The sustain in greatly increased and with a Proco Rat in the pedal chain the tone is indistinguishable from David’s on Delicate Sound of Thunder-LIVE. I also used a Carbon Copy delay and a touch of chorus.
[Thanks for the tip. I pasted the link here. - Bjorn]