• Echoes “seagull” effect tutorial

    One of the very first “eureka!” moments I had when I started doing research on David’s gear was when I learned how he did the seagull screams during the mid section in Echoes. I’d been using slides, overkill fuzz and just about anything that could nail the effect but nothing came close to David’s unique tone. In this article we’ll look at how the effect is achieved and the different techniques.

    First… a little history lesson.
    David explains in an interview with Guitar Player (January 09): “We discovered it as the result of a serendipitous accident that happened in about 1969 or 1970, when a roadie had plugged the wah in the wrong way, and I stomped into it and got this incredible screaming noise. “ The brilliance of this effect isn’t really the effect in it self but the fact that David went ahead and explored how he could tame and integrate the effect in a song after obviously having heard something that must have sounded quite horrible. Actually, David employed the effect long before Pink Floyd wrote Echoes. It can be heard during early live versions of the unreleased song Embryo. One of the earliest known sources is from a performance at the Town Hall in Birmingham, UK February 11 1970. The effect can also be heard on a performance for ORTF Studios (French TV) December 4 1970 as a part of an instrumental often referred to as Corrosion. In this clip David is using the legendary Bill Lewis guitar that he’d bought in Canada only a couple of months earlier. Another great source for the seagull effect with the Bill Lewis is the Super Pop 70 VII festival, Casino de Montreux, Montreux, Switzerland November 22 1970. Listening to these clips you can hear that the effect behaves a little differently on humbuckers (more on that below). The seagull effect can also be heard on Is There Anybody Out There from the The Wall album.

    Echoes was premiered April 22 1970 in Norwich UK (introduced as Return of the Son of Nothing). The seagull sequence was now moved to Echoes from Embryo, which now featured echo swells produced with the Binson Echorec. Although the effect pretty much stayed the same throughout the years, David would sometimes experiment like in 1974 when he would add a MXR Phase 90 for an even more dramatic effect (Colmar, France 22 June 1974). Echoes was also performed on a handful of shows during the beginning of the Momentary Lapse of Reason tour in 1987. David used the blonde 1983 ’57 reissue Strat with EMG pickups and since these can’t be used for the effect it’s uncertain how he did it (and there was no wah wah in his rig either). Echoes was once again performed on David’s last solo tour in 2006. Now his wah was hooked up to a custom Cornish unit that allowed David to switch the in/out put signal on the wah with a single stomp. This was also done on David’s Animals/Wall Cornish pedal boardwhere the wah had a custom switch on its heel for switching the input/outputs (Echoes was never performed with this board though). On the early 70’s David would manually switch the cables on the wah to be able to play both Echoes and stuff like Set the Controls. It’s not documented whether his first pedal board (1973-75) had a switch but there doesn’t seem to be any visible cables so there might have been a similar solution as on the Cornish board.

    Pink Floyd’s quadraphonic sound system was used to spread the seagull effect around the concert venue or stadium. Listening to bootlegs from the 70’s and 1987 you can hear that some parts are louder than others. This is because the loudest parts are from the front stage PA, while the lower parts are from the rear PAs.

    The technique
    To get the right pitch and tone, the seagull effect is best achieved with a Stratocaster with vintage style pickups – note that the effect won’t work with the EMG DG20 pickups since these have active EQ controls instead of tone pots. You also need a vintage style wah wah pedal like a Vox or Cry Baby. Some newer models do not work. I also recommend echo for a rich warm tone. Digital delay will obviously give you the delays but not the same almost reverb-like tone.

    Stratocaster with vintage style pickups
    1. Reverse the connections on your wah wah pedal. Plug the guitar into the output and the cable that goes into the next effect or the amp into the input.
    2. Set up for a clean tone with lots of echo/delay (aprox. 300ms) with long feedback.
    3. Set the guitar volume at 10, the upper tone control at 10 and the lower tone control all the way off. Set the pickup selector in the fourth position, combining the middle and bridge pickups.

    - Before you go on to the next step it’s extremely important that you set the volume pedal as low as possible so that you just barely hear the guitar.

    4. Turn on the wah wah and let it stay with the heel all the way down. Slowly turn the lower tone knob up towards 10. You should now hear the feedback. Adjust the volume pedal for the desired volume.
    5. Adjust the pitch of the feedback by carefully turning up and down the lower tone knob. Somewhere between 3-2 the tone fades and by making a really slow fadeout you can achieve the “laughing” effect.
    6. Combine these techniques with switching the pickup switch up and down from position 1-5 and by adjusting the pitch on the wah wah.

    Humbuckers
    Set the pickup selector in the middle position and use the lower/bridge tone knob to control the effect. Repeat the stages above.

    I’m sure most of you already master the effect but I hope this tutorial made it even clearer. Don’t forget the Examining Echoes article for more details on how to create a killer tone for the rest of Echoes. Start cracking some windows!

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108 Responsesso far.

  1. Livio says:

    Hi Bjorn, I’m Livio…….how should I connect a reverse wha on a Boss gt100 multieffect (using only the ampli simulator and a echo delay) that goes direct on the PA? Do you think I should simply connect it like this: GUITAR on Out wha –> Input Wha on input Gt100 —> PA? Thank you so much for your blog and the work you do!!!

    • Bjorn says:

      Not sure what you mean. Are you talking about an external wah or the one in the GT?

      • Livio says:

        I’m talking about an esternal wha. Before I buy a Vox pedal or a cry baby only to create the “seagull effect” I want to be sure that it works with my GT100. Thanks for you aswer

        • Bjorn says:

          I haven’t tried it so I can’t tell. You might have some issues with the buffers in the GT. It might work fine too. Again, I haven’t tried it so I can’t really tell for sure. Another option is to have the wah in a true bypass looper.

  2. Leo says:

    Does anyone knows of a stomp switch i can use to reverse the in/out, so that I don’t have to physically do it by hand?

  3. Giovanni says:

    Hi Bjorn! Maybe I’ll buy the D.Allen Echoes set… Do you know if they will work to do the seagull effect?
    Thanks :)

  4. Giovanni says:

    Hi Bjorn!
    I’m planning on buying a Wah pedal to do this cool effect and I have a few questions…
    1) Do you prefer a Cry Baby wah or a Vox to create the effect? I’d like a sound similar to the one in your video!
    2) I’ll use my Strat with 57/62 pickup to do the trick… They’re fine?
    3) Since my Strat (Fender Classic Player 50s Stratocaster 60th Anniversary) has the upper tone knob wired to the neck and middle pickup and the lower one wired to the bridge pickup, do I need to modify the wiring of my Strat so it has the lower tone knob able to “control” the bridge and the middle pickups?
    I ask this last question because in the video you say that the selector must be in the bridge-middle position to make this effect work. So I thought that is fundamental to have the lower tone knob (used for the effect) wired to the bridge and middle pickups… Was I right or wrong?
    Thanks :)

    • Bjorn says:

      1. The Cry Baby and Vox is basically the same pedal. Just be sure that you get one with a vintage style circuit. Moder’n wahs won’t work.
      2. Yep.
      3. I would imagine so but I haven’t tried to achieve the effect with the tone knob wired to the bridge. It might work.

  5. Collin says:

    Thanks for this tutorial, it was really helpful. I tried this effect with a Crybaby that I modded for true bypass (with the buffer removed) and it works. With some of my guitars. I’ve found that my guitars that have a Fernandes Sustainer in them don’t cause the wah to squeal. Must be some kind of impedance thing as a result of the sustainer circuit. My other guitars, as long as they’re completely passive, do fine. I’ve further modded my wah pedal by including a DPDT toggle switch that allows me to internally reverse the in- and output to the wah circuit. So one setting, normal way, other setting seagulls!

    Another thing I noticed that you cannot put anything buffered between your guitar and the wah for the squeals to happen. Which would make it a problem to include this in my rig as I do run it with a buffer at the start. One thing I am exploring as a result is the AMZ pickup simulation (http://www.muzique.com/lab/pickups.htm), tricking a circuit into thinking it gets an unbuffered signal directly from a guitar. Maybe build a little box that mimics the volume and tone circuit of a guitar and create the effect from there..

  6. Tanner says:

    Hey Bjorn! The first time I got this to work was with my Fender Jazz Bass and a GCB-95. Recently I bought a GCB-95F and ended up with two due to shipping complications. I was planning on having one dedicated for the Echoes effect on my guitar board, but it doesn’t seem to work with the Classic. I’ve tried rearranging my pedal chain and using it alone with no success. I read in a blog that this could be due to the CryBaby Classic’s buffers. It has both an input and an output buffer, while the regular CryBaby only has one. Is that the issue? If so, is it possible to remove the buffer from the pedal for it to work?

    Thanks! Awesome site, by the way. I’ve found that I spend an unhealthy amount of time here.

    • Bjorn says:

      Glad to hear, Tanner! I’ve only played the vintage style wah’s from Dunlop and Vox so I’m not certain. I think Keith here can help you out.

  7. KEITH says:

    As for Felipe’s question, I don’t think opticals will do the effect, and the 535q Definitely won’t work for it. With, the 535q, it may just require a highwr value cap, but having tried almost every wah I can get my hands on, the only one’s that seem to work with almost any capacitor, are the GCB-95 Cry Baby’s, and the Vox 847, nit the 847A, and even with the 847, it wouldn’t occilate, ( laugh), until I changed out the .022 cap, for a .047. However, while never verified, the .022 cap may have been defective. My best luck with stock, budget wahs has been the 847 Vox, it doesn’t suck as much high end as the CryBaby. But if you can afford Castledines drop in kit, with the Gilnour mods, and go with the .1 cap in your axe, you’ll get your guitar sounding a bit closer to the black strat at Pompeii, and have a wah that is the vest I’ve played, and flip a switch, and the leads are reversed fir the Gull sound!

    Peace, Keith

  8. JOn says:

    I have 535q wah here, im very frustrated :(

  9. Felipe Rojas says:

    Hello!!! Wonderful and amazing tutorial!! But I have one question, would this effect work with an optical wah? Have you tried this with any? Greetings from Chile!

    [Not sure… does anyone have any experience with this???? – Bjorn]

  10. Stephen says:

    Yeah, I am psyched to give it a try! Let me know when he is ready to take orders! Thanks Keith!!

    and as always Bjorn thanks for all your hard work and the great site! Hope you and the fam are doing well.

    Cheers

    [Cheers, Stephen! – Bjorn]

  11. KEITH says:

    For Bjorn, and all the gilmourish crowd. The issue above that Stephen was asking about is a drop in kit Stuart Castldine, the amazing builder in London, who builds the RI 18 Real Colorsound power boost, ( not the master volume, but the same one Gilmour, Beck, and Bolan used!) , and also who made the V2 for Will and I. The drop in kit fits in a V847, or GCB-95 case, and is a faithful, and exacting Clone of the 1967 Thomas Organ Italian made Vox/ Crybaby wahs. They were only made in Italy for 1 year, but became a staple of the British sound of the late ’60s, and early ’70s, and are very rare, and are known to many as the best wah ever made. This is the circuit DG used when he discovered the Seagull effect, but the circuit in it’s stock version will only do the effect with a .1 capacitor in the guitar, and since thatswhat DG had to use to get the effect, I prefer going for the cap change, instead of changing the wah circuit. I feel it’s more authentic, but will darken the fuitar a lilttle, which some will love, others will prefer the more modern .047, or ultra modern .022 cap. So, without changing the character of the Wah, in a recent conversation Mr. Castledine said that he could add a cap to the output that would match the wah to the cap in your guitar. However, I think the proper way is to cgange to the .1 cap. the change will not darken the sound much, and if you like tge tone of the Black Strat during the period wgen DG aquired it, until likely 76, that is the .1 cap, and hus straight up mod that adds a switch that reverses the leads, and turns off an output buffer that in normal mode allows the wah to go in front of a vintage fuzz, byt as that buffer will nit allow the seagull effect, the switch turns the fuzz friendly circuit off when in Seagull mode. The kit drops in easily, and you can just drill a 1/4″ hole anywhere you prefer to put the switch! Sirry fir another long post, but this post serves two purposes. 1. To tell everyone about the perfect Gilmourish Wah, and 2. If you are gaving trouble getting the laughing effect,( self modulation) from a V847, or GCB-95, you nost likely have a .022 cap, and need to change it to an .047 or higher value capacitor. It’s a cheap, and easy fix, even if you have a tech do it for you. Hope that helps the many who have struggled with the effect. A lot of money was spent buying several wahs, Only to find my guitars .022 cap was the only thing keeping the effect beyond my reach.
    Thanks, Keith

    [Thanks for the insights, Keith! – Bjorn]

  12. Stephen says:

    Right on! Thanks for the update Keith, this sounds like a killer wah!

    Hey Bjorn have you ever tried the .1 cap in any of your Gilmour Guitars? Just curious what your take is on it. :)

    Cheers
    Stephen

    [Oh… I’m not even sure what’s in my guitars… I’m afarid I’m no expert on the electronics… – Bjorn]

  13. KEITH says:

    That was supposed to be a capacitor he can add to make it work with the specific cap in your guitar, but it will only work with that value cap. So, to sum up, this is a direct clone of a 1967 Italian made Thomas Organ Vox/ Crybaby wah, with a fuzz friendly output resistor, tied to a switch that turns the fuzz friendly buffer off, and reverses the in/outs, at the flip of a microswitch. It is as close in it’s unmodded circuit as you’ll get to those very rare, and vocal wahs, and with the mod, it is the ultimate Gilmour wah! It is a special order, and you need to tell him what the value of the cap in your guitar is, or it will not work. I have chosen to change my guitars cap to the .1 uf, because I feel it’s a more authentic approach to the sound DG had when Pompeii was recorded, and had his guitar not had that cap, there would have been no Seagulls in Echoes!!!
    Peace, Keith

  14. KEITH says:

    Yeah Stephen, just talked to Stu today, and he said that he could add a resitor to the wah, that would work specifically for a .022, or one for .047, but to make it work without changing the vintage chatachter of the wah, it would have to be dedicated to one, or the other, but not both. I have decided that I don’t have a problem with the .1 cap, as that’s what Gilmour had in the Strat, or the Seagull effect would never have worked with his vintage wah! And Stu said he loves his Strat so much more with the .1, and was curious how he ever put the .022 in there in the first place. But the straight answer is, yes, if you tell him ehat value cap you run, he can make what you, and I believe to be the ultimate Gilmour Wah! Finally paid mine off today, maybe that’s why he’s speaking to me again, hahaha!
    Peace, Keith

  15. Stephen says:

    Speaking of Keith… Any word on the Wah from Castledine? :)

  16. KEITH says:

    @Roger, check the cap in your guitar, if it’s an .022, replace it with a .047. That should have it laughing, if 845’s will do the effect. That’s what I did to solve the same issue with a V847.
    Peace, Keith

  17. Roger Sartori says:

    Here I am again, Bjorn.
    I got this new Vox V845 model. I was able to get the feedback effect but strangely I couldn’t get the “laughing” part in a proper way. It’s very subtle, actually… and for some reason, the lower tone control doesn’t close the feedback entirely. But I also have the effect with the neck pickup and upper tone control. Again, the laughing part is pretty hard to emulate.

    [You do use the fourth position, neck and bridge, right? The “laughing” effect is tricky and you need to do it really slow to make it work. I’ve only managed to make it work on vintage output single coils. On buckers and others it sounds very strange… Try to find the sweetspot where it breaks and just barely move the pot. It kind of self oscillates and feeds back on it self. – Bjorn]

  18. DIMITRIS says:

    I was at a local music store to buy, some diy materials, to make a signal flip/switch stompbox (like the gull switch from eye rock) with a friend who knows of electronics. But somebody there told me to lower the overall volume for having this effect, or else I’m gonna damage my amp.
    Is it normal to use this effect, or something that will eventually harm any piece of your equipment?

    [Depending on the amp I’m not sure the effect would damage it but if you’re not careful with the volume it is going to sound VERY loud and if not the amp’s breaking your ears will certainly hurt. Try at a very low volume first to get an idea how it works. – Bjorn]

  19. Roger Sartori says:

    Hi, Bjorn.
    Never tried this effect before… I guess because I don’t have a wah pedal yet.. HAHA.
    I see some comments people having trouble with pedals working for some and not working for others…
    My intention is to get a wah pedal soon only to try the seagull effect… but as it’s going to be a “blind” purchase (I intend to buy it on the internet), I’ll never try it to see if it works on my guitar.
    I know you said it works with both, But if YOU are going to buy one new, today, which one do you recommend: VOX V845 or CRYBABY GCB-95? My purchase will depend on your answer. So, be responsible! HAHA.. just kidding. Thanks a lot, friend!

    [I’ve never tried it with the GCB but both my Cry Baby standard and Vox V845 works nicely. – Bjorn]

  20. Roger Sartori says:

    I forgot to ask you one more thing, please, sorry: can I get the seagull effect with a NEW VOX or CRY BABY wah-wah pedal? Thanks again.

    [It works only on the vintage models – old and new. But not the signatures and modified. – Bjorn]

  21. Roger Sartori says:

    Hi, Bjorn.
    I was reading your comments on the Gullmour Wah pedal and I have a simple question about it: can you use the Gullmour Wah WITHOUT a volume pedal do get the seagull effect? Cheers.

    [Yes. That’s the whole idea :) – Bjorn]

  22. TimeEchoes says:

    I’m a huge DG fan since Ummagumma. I would really like to know what the tremolo effect is on my favorite PF song Money. Is it the Binson….maybe a Leslie going 100mph? Is it a Fender amp with tremolo? I am going crazy trying to recreate that sound with pedals. Please!

    [He used a Kepex studio processor for the tremolo. – Bjorn]

  23. MichaelH says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    I read your instructions and almost every comment from the readers. So I have one question so far, and I didn’t find an answer yet: Is it necessary to play an amp with speakers? I always play with headphones because of the neighbours.

    btw: GREAT site!!!

    Greets
    Michael

    [Hi Michael! Some amps has an output for headphones but you should never run an amp head alone. It needs a load and without it you’ll blow the tubes and transformers within minutes. If you can’t use an amp at home, then check out modelling software like Line 6 and Amplitube. They’re getting better and better and have lots of great tones and possibilities. Some recoridng software, like Garageband and Logic also feature amp and pedal sims that works great for practice and recording. – Bjorn]

  24. Andy says:

    Will this work through a wireless system, or does it have to be hard wired??

    [Haven’t tried it but I wouldn’t think so. – Bjorn]

  25. Mike S. says:

    Hi Bjorn,

    I just wanted to tell you THANK YOU!!! I cannot tell you how dreadful my improvised “seagull” was, and how frustrated I was becoming. I’m such a perfectionist, and like you had described yourself, I too was using a slide and jolting it quickly up the E string to try and imitate the effect. But my God it was so terrible. Then yesterday, out of sheer desperation, I typed into Google, “How do Pink Floyd create the seagull effect on Echoes?” Sure enough, your page was the first to catch my eye. I tried it earlier tonight, just the guitar and the pedal by itself, and it blew my top off LOL! I am so pleased. I have two Crybaby pedals, and just simply turned one around facing backwards, and threw it to the front of my lineup. This time I was able to add my MXR Phase and my MXR Analog Delay, as well as a few other effects just to experiment with the sound, and it sounded exactly what I wanted. I cannot thank you enough, sir. I’m a huge Floyd fan, and until yesterday, was about to throw away the idea of adding that gem of a song into my set list. After all, if it isn’t going to sound right to the musician, it probably won’t sound right with the audience, either. I cannot wait to hear the crowd’s reaction the first time I throw those laughing gulls into their ears. You have helped me add a fantastic song to my arsenal, and have kept an otherwise frustrated guitarist from tearing his hair out lol. Thanks again for a spot on tutorial. I will be sure to tell my fellow musician friends. Take care, sir. Cheers!

    Mike S.

    [Hi Mike! Thanks for your kind words! Glad the tutorial worked out for you :) Remember to play loud when you perform this. It’s supposed to sound both frightening and annoying :) Cheesr! – Bjorn]

  26. Keith says:

    Absoulutely, I did everything the same as I did with the GCB-95. I shot Vox/Korg USA a letter asking if they knew off the effect, and any differences in the b revision that would keep it from working. Their reply was:” We do not keep specs for specific revisions here in the US office, but are familiar with the effect, and have done some testing, and our 845 does the effect as you explained.”. Very odd, as when I saw it was a late ’80’s version, I thought it would be great, and it did absolutely nothing to color my tone when in bypass, and had a great sweet spot, but I want one wah that does everything I want! Very strange, maybe it had been modded, although I doubt it, as it had a spdt switch, which is usually the first mod done, getting rid of that switch. ????
    Peace, so glad my buddy Stephen won one of the gifts! Keith

    [I don’t have a good answer. Never had any problems with the models that usually work although some pickups and buffered pedal (even if they’re not next to the wah) can mess up the effect. – Bjorn]

  27. Keith says:

    Hey Bjorn, my last posts in this catagory evidently were wrong. I git the effect absolutely album perfect with a new GCB-95, but it sucked tone so bad I took it back thinking I’d send my Teese to analog man, get the fuzz friendly mod, and go with that, but the Teese won’t stop squealing when you turn the tone down. Today, I thought I’d hit the Gold mine. I found an older 847, revision B, and in great shape. Brought it home for $40.00, and it has a great sweet spot, doesn’t color my tone, but like the Teese, It squeals no matter how low I turn the tone down. My vetdict, some wahs it works, others with the same circuit won’t. So, I guess I’ll take the 847 back, even though it sounds great as a wah, and came with a great little Vox carry bag. Maybe if I find the right GCB, it will work, and maybe it won’t suck the tone terribly like the last one. The wah search is getting really frustrating!
    Cheers, Keith

    [That’s strange. You’re sure you’ve put the pickup switch in the 4th position – bridge/mid? – Bjorn]

  28. Keith says:

    Also wanted to add two things, whoever at Dunlop said that it won’t work with the GCB95 shouldn’t be answering questions, as I bought one yesterday, and it works great. And, for those looking for the Vox 847, it has been discontinued according to Sam Ash, and Guitar center, so if you want to do the effect perfectly, the GCB95 is hardwired bypass, costs $65.00 US, and if your Strat is wired vintage, it will laugh indefinitely once the middle pickup tone knob hits the sweet spot. Hope this clears this issue up for all. Vintage single coils, and vintage wiring, and it will work perfectly!
    Peace, KC

  29. Keith says:

    Okay, I haven’t read every comment, but I read enough to see that this subject has mystified many guitarist who have tried to get the Seagull effect down pat, and I think I figured out the most common problem. I went to the store to buy a new wah, as the RMCIII I have is 14 years old, and needs to go back to Teese for repair. I took my guitar to find out if I was on the right track. You see, Vintage Strats don’t have the bottom tone control hooked up to the bridge pickup, but all modern Strats use the bottom tone to control both the middle, and bridge pups. When I had my guitar built, I insisted upon havinv it wired vintage, which means no tone control on the bridge pup. I grabbed a strat off the wall, and a $65 GCB95 Cry Baby. I couldn’t make it laugh, and instead of a Seagull, it sounded like something died. I then hooked Cymbaline, my handmade DG Strat up, and voila, I had it perfected in like two seconds. I may be wrong, but it seems that so many people can’t seem to get it right, with the same wah that I believe my test has deciphered this issue. To achieve the petfect Seagull laughing effect, the guitar should not just have vintage pickups, but should be wired like a true vintage Strat, with the tone knibs controlling the neck, and bridge pick ups only!
    I hope this ends the problem others have encountered, because I was astounded how easily I could make the exact sound with nothing but the wah, plugged into a Blackstar, with a little OD.
    Peace, love, and Gilmourish, Keith

  30. Mike says:

    This fella just made me a switch box to reverse the inputs on my wah! it’s not on the website but just email him. It cost me about 30 GBP. I thought everyone would be interested to know.

    http://www.brightonion.co.uk/

    Mike

    [Thanks for the tip, Mike! – Bjorn]

  31. Steven Meyer says:

    Hey Bjorn I have a question. I have a Vox V847 but when I plug it in I don’t get the “laughing” effect like you do. Do you think you can help me out with this? I also have an American Standard Stratocaster with single pickups.

    [You get the seagull effect, right? Or is there no feedback? The “laughing” part is a bit tricky but it appears right before you fade out the tone completely. Roll down the tone control very slow and you should hit a spot where the effect appears. You need to hold it there for a couple of seconds and then slowly roll it all the way down for the right pitch and then silence. Hope this helped. – Bjorn]

  32. Oliver says:

    Björn,

    I am somewhat confused now… David is using Vox Wahs at Pompeji and Meddle. Hi switched to the Cry Baby later.. But in mind that the Pompeji / Meddle is the “original” I am going to own a Vox Wah.
    I can only find the 847A and the 845 in the current Vox offerings. You are mentioning the 847 without A in your posts. Can you please give a hint if I should get for the 845, 847A or a Cry Baby to get that seagull laughing?
    Thanks and keep on shining
    Oliver

    [All of these would work nicely :) – Bjorn]

  33. Alex says:

    Instead of manually reversing the cables, is there a way for me to install a switch like on David’s wah pedal from his Animals pedal board? And will it work on a home made wah wah? (i own a DIY wah pedal)

    [Depends on the DIY circuit. Most vintage ones will work. Make a quick Google search on reverse modding the wah. There are lots of schematics out there on how to do it. Should be an easy mod. – Bjorn]

  34. Matteo says:

    Works great even with a Gibson and an old wah! Now I only need a good tape delay.. :-)

  35. Ramin says:

    Will this work with a wah wah with true bypass? I am thinking of bying a BYOC wah:)

    [No, I don’t think it will. – Bjorn]

  36. Edgar says:

    Bjorn: If you gonna put an invert wah to have seagull effects in you pedal chain, where do you put it? In the front or effects loop?

    Edgar (Puerto Rico)

    [The wah should always be placed first in the chain. – Bjorn]

  37. Tristan says:

    Just to let everyone know, this doesn’t work with the satriani vox wah.

  38. Nick says:

    Bjorn,

    One more thing that I just found out. The VOX V847 will do the seagull effect. BUT, here’s one thing to know: While the V847 will work correctly 100%, the V847A, which is also listed as V847 now, will NOT do every effect correctly. The V847A, which is surface mount and also has a adapter for a 9v, will not be able to do the ‘laughing’ effect, and the sound will not be as high of a pitch.

    Something very important to keep in mind for everyone having trouble with the V847’s.

    [Thanks for the info! – Bjorn]

  39. Nick says:

    Bjorn,

    Just wanted to follow up and let you know the situation with the Crybaby Classic… It WILL NOT work with it. I personally talked with Dunlop asking if/why it wouldn’t make that sound. They told me that it wouldn’t work because it is a buffered pedal. Bummer, but thats the deal they told me. Hope this helps others who are wondering the same thing I was!!

    Cheers!
    -Nick

  40. Dan says:

    Hi, Bjorn.
    Would this work with a multi-effects unit? Namely a Boss ME-70.
    Thanks,
    Dan.

    [No. You need to reverse the wah and no digital prosessors allow this. – Bjorn]

  41. batuta says:

    Hello, me again! The seagull effect works perfectly with the vox v847A made in china, but i did not get the effect of laughter with my Squier Deluxe Hot Rails …

    thank you for everything!

    [The effect only works on vintage style pickups. – Bjorn]

  42. batuta says:

    The Seagull Effect works with the vox v847a made in China? And it works with the Squier Deluxe Hot Rails? She has three humbuckers (Duncan desing).

    [It works with the wah but I’m not sure about the pickups. Seems to work fine on most humbuckers though although the pitch is a bit off. – Bjorn]

  43. TCL says:

    Hi,
    I have the same issue with my Dunlop Crybaby classic and my fender strat with the ssl5 and custom 69 picups… I folloowed the advice (only with guitar, wah and amp. I didn’t put any delay after the wah is there an issue ?).
    Could you please sumup the working wah pedal that we can order ? Thx.
    Tcl

    [I really have no idea. Sorry. I’ve only tried the effect with a Vox V847 and a Cry Baby GCB95 and it works fine. – Bjorn]

  44. Nick says:

    Bjorn,

    Having a little bit of trouble with my set up…I’ve got a Cry Baby Classic running into a Fender Twin playing my Fender Fat Strat HSS Style. Now I also have a coil splitter so it should work, but I’m not having luck getting any such feedback. Not only that, but when I try using my Les Paul with Burstbuckers, I’m not getting anything there either. I try with the Strat in position 4 and the Les Paul in middle position. Can’t get anything! Help!

    -Nick

    [That’s strange. I assume you’ve followed the steps in the feature? I really have no idea why it doesn’t work with the classic. Do you have any pedals in front of the wah? – Bjorn]

  45. Wildstrat says:

    Bjorn,

    That’s exactly what I did :-(
    I’m using a strat with single coils…wah comes first in the chain…
    can’t do anything more….

    [Hm… I’m afraid I can’t suggest anything else… Should work fine with the tutorial I’ve written down. – Bjorn]

  46. Wildstrat says:

    I’ve got a VOX V847 reissue. I can get the whole effect except the laghing part.I’ve tried with the delay in the FX loop (both series and paralel) and right in front of amp’s input (as the wah-wah). I’ve triet it also with several guitars and different pickup configurations. Can’t understand what’s wrong…
    If anyone can help me…many thanks!!

    [The wah wah needs to be placed first in the chain and I recommend using vintage style pickups or at least single coils (doesn’t work on active and humbuckers). The laughing effect, or the tremolo sound, appears when you’ve almost dialed the tone knob all the way down. You have to be really careful not doing it too fast. The effect should appear right before the tone dies and you need to roll off very very slowly. – Bjorn]

  47. Russell says:

    Yea, this works best with my “crybaby” Hendrix sig wah and it also works (but not as good) with a 2006 standard “crybaby”…

    niiiiiiiiiiice

  48. DumpWeed says:

    Hey Bjorn,
    I tried the effect with a Vox V847 and Crybaby GCB-95 — both with the Keeley Mellow Mod.

    The Crybaby was perfect all the way. No problems. Sounded exactly like Echoes and scared the crap out of my dog. The Vox worked except I wasn’t able to get the laughing effect. The feedback part worked and the tone sounded perfect — but dialing the tone knob down just lowered the feedback volume until it was silent.

    So, if anyone was concidering the Keeley mods but wanted to make sure they could still get the effect, there you have it. Also, incase it matters with the Vox, I was running a Fender Eric Johnson strat –> wah –> Analogman Dual Delay –> Ernie Ball Jr 6180 volume –> Clark ’59 Bassman clone. Note that the only thing screwy with my setup is the EJ strat has two tone knobs and one volume. Maybe that caused the issue with the Vox?? Could have, but don’t think so since I played with all the pickup settings and both tone knobs.

    Anyway, thanks again Bjorn.

    [Thanks for your input! – Bjorn]

  49. Norbert Kiss says:

    Hi Everyone!

    Please help me! I would like to reproduce the seagull effect but I cannot get a Vox V847 here in Hungary.
    Although I may buy a Vox V845 but I don’t know if it is good for this purpose? What’s your opinion? Is there anybody who tried this pedal?

    Thank U in advance!

    [It should work perfectly. – Bjorn]

  50. Aureliano says:

    ok….
    but dont work with me…..
    i dont know…
    I have a Dunlop 535Q Multi-Wah Crybaby , a BOSS DD-3, but a poor guitar….
    my pickups have a vintage style but i think thats not a lot powerful…
    could you help?
    thanks!
    Great web site!

    [I haven’t tried the 535Q my self but that might be your problem. The effetc only work on vintage style wahs. – Bjorn]

  51. Victor says:

    Hello Bjorn!
    First of of all, thank you greatly for making this tutorial, it has made playing “Echoes” even more fun!
    Second, I think I have figured out why the laughing part of the effect doesn’t always work for people. I’m using a Dean Vendetta with ’59 and Jazz model Humbuckers using just the bridge (‘the ’59 Model) pickup using the split-coil function. In addition, I’m using the Vox V845 Classic Wah for the effect. At first, It didn’t fully work; I couldn’t get any laughing. But them, when I used the wah SEPERATE from my other pedals, it worked beautifully. It probably has something to do with putting too much of a load on the pedal’s Input side created by having too many effects, but I’m not sure. Anyways, I have been able to conclude that the effect works best with as little effects as possible.

    [Thanks for the input! – Bjorn]

  52. Michael says:

    Hey Bjorn,

    Would you recommend a Vox or a cry baby, not for just the seagul effect but for overall. Also, would this Vox pedal be suitable to buy? I saw another one beside this one that was more expensive and had different numbers in the name,(whats the difference?)

    Heres the link to the Vox pedal http://www.buy.com/prod/vox-wah-wah-pedal-v845/q/listingid/83638562/loc/101/215511296.html

    P.S. Great article!

    [You’ll need a vintage type Cry Baby or Vox to be able to achieve the seagull effect. Some of the newer models and signatures doesn’t work. – Bjorn]

  53. bottle says:

    Oops, meant to say that one knob on the guitar controls bass and the other controls TREBLE, left that off somehow. :)

  54. bottle says:

    I have a crybaby gcb-95, completely stock (including buffer) and this works fine for me. Awesome effect. My guitar is a G&L Legacy and the its tone controls are differ from Fender’s, so that may make a difference. One knob controls bass and the other . But I followed your directions and it works just like your video. Your site rules, by the way.

    [Cheers! – Bjorn]

  55. Hélder says:

    Bjorn,

    Please check out your email.

    For all interested, this is the link for a video of me doing the seagull effect without the laughing part. My drama!

    Regards.
    http://rapidshare.com/files/320935890/MVI_1644.mp4.html

  56. Hélder says:

    Bjorn,
    I’ve also tried it with a gibson explorer and a fender lead II, and never get the laughing part.
    On the strat yes it’s selected M/B combo, and it is dead silent with tone rolled all off. I use a peavey combo and between guitar and amp it’s a boss gt-g to get some compression, volume control and digital delay (300ms, 6 repeats, high cut at 700hz,effect level 100).
    Please help :-S
    Regards.

    [I’m really not sure what might be the problem. Can you record a snippet and mail me? – Bjorn]

  57. Hélder says:

    Hi!

    I bought today the Vox 847 and I can get part of the seagull effect, following all instructions above.
    However, rolling off the tone knob to “1” doesn’t makes the feedback to mute. I get a permanent low volume and constant feedback signal which prevents me to get the “laughing part” of the effect (the one you get by slowly turn the tone towards “1”). In resume, from tone 1 to 10, I always have a sound (varying in volume and pitch, as supposed). Do any of you have any idea what is going wrong? I use an American Std’96 Strat with stock pickups…if that info helps you…

    Please give me your feedback.

    Hélder
    helder.j.dias@gmail.com

    [I really have no idea. Never tried it on a standard model but I’d assume that the effect would work with the stock pickups. The pickup selector is set for mid/bridge combo? Should be dead silent when the tone is rolled all off. – Bjorn]

  58. Renan (Brazil) says:

    That’s absolutely amazing!

    Man, I’m a big fan of Gilmour and Pink Floyd, and I’m a guitarist as well. Your website is of an unconceivable value for us musicians. It’s so carefully and beautifully designed and updated, and the incredible amount of information posted here acts very much like a Course on David Gilmour!

    Congratulations!
    (Your website definetely should be put in David’s website’s link section)

    Renan Ferreira, Brazil.

    [Thanks for your kind words and support! Glad you enjoy the site :) – Bjorn]

  59. Sherwin says:

    Fantastic tutorial, Bjorn. Thank you!

    For TQuay (or anyone else) wondering why the tab for Echoes cuts out in the “Echoes: The Best of PF” book, that’s the edited version of the song. The best tab in print for Echoes (as it appears on Meddle) is Wolf Marshall’s “Pink Floyd Early Classics” book/CD. It’s very accurate but is only transcribed until the funk section.

  60. Alessandro says:

    Thanx very much, indeed (as uncle Dave always said…)!
    Your explainations ’bout Echoes and its Make A Real Seagull Cry (and try to fly, somehow…XD) has really cool, which tomorrow i’ll go to my favourite technician with my old Cry Baby (what a great name, isn’t?) and trying to do some very profound modification with a switch, while it will be possible to change the polarity of that one as Cornisch work. My technician is Vincenzo Tabacco from Rome, Italy, hoping to see his work and the obvious results on this beeeeautyful site! Many thanx more, guys: you saved my day!!!

    [Cheers Alessandro! – Bjorn]

  61. DocziBoti says:

    Very nice demo… I`ve red about it few years ago but couldn`t imagine how it`s actually done.
    Congats Bjorn..! Keep up the good work!! Cheers, Boti

    [Cheers! – Bjorn]

  62. bourgois says:

    Hello !

    This effect cannot be possible with hf box ;do you know the reason why?

    Thanks for your good works .

    Pascal

    [I’m not sure I know what a HF box is… – Bjorn]

  63. Johnnie Floyd says:

    I recently purchased a VOX V847 for about $70.00 new, and it works perfectly for the Echoes Seagull effect. I’d say get the Vox – it is a great wah wah, and it looks way better than the crybaby due to it’s nice chrome accent!

  64. TQuay says:

    Bjorn,

    Did you order Power Scaling as an option with your new Reeves Custom 50? It is an incredible thing to have. You can get the “Live at Leeds” saturated tone of a 50watt amp at lower volume levels that you can live with at home. Check their site anyone for more information. If it’s not too late you should have them add it on. Anyway, I can’t wait to read your review and I hope you asked for the vintage Purple speaker (s) if you ordered more than the head. Cheers

    [I ordered just the Custom 50 head and without the power scaling. Don’t need it. I want the tone as clean and loud as possible :) I’ll have the review up as soon as it arrives. – Bjorn]

  65. J. Hart says:

    The same noise is also in Marooned, about 1:23 into it on the left channel.

    Did Alan (first post) mean the other high-pitched noise, from rubbing a tone bar across the E string (as in Pompeii)? I was a little disappointed he didn’t include that in the recent tour, though Echoes was still phenomenal. Tutorial on that, perchance? Thank you Bjørn!

  66. Hélder says:

    So, if i go to a store and buy a new 847 reissue, everything would work fine, right?

    [Mine works nicely. – Bjorn]

  67. Hélder says:

    Let me share with you the answer i got directly from JIM DUNLOP Company:

    “I spoke to one of our top engineers and he had not heard of this, but he did say it made sense. He said that in order to get this you would need an un-buffered pedal. All of our pedals are buffered these days, an older vintage wah would be best, as long as it is unbuffered. He also said to try and plug it into a Fuzz Face that might work.”

    You experience confirm this? Current Cry Babys don’t work at all?????? :-S

    I REALLY WANT TO MAKE THIS SOUND HERE AT MY HOME!! :-)
    What a nice Christmas gift i’ll offer me :-D

    Regards!
    Hélder

    [I guess you’d need a non buffered or hardwire bypass. like the Vox and older Cry Babys. – Bjorn]

  68. Dave A says:

    Regarding Working Cry Baby Models,i can vouch for the GCB-95 Model.Mine works a treat.Cheers

  69. Hélder says:

    Bjorn:

    Any Vox? Current ones?
    And how old must be a Dunlop to work this way?

    Thanks
    Hélder

    [Mine is a 847 reissue. You can also use the Classic and Original reissue Cry Babys. Those are the ones I’ve tried but I’m sure there are several models that works. Anyone? – Bjorn]

  70. Narcotic Dreamer says:

    Hey Bjorn !

    I don’t know if you aware of that, but a review of your Airbag album has been published here.

    Do not hesitate to ask me if you need a, I’d be glad to help :)

    Have a nice day !

    [Thanks for your support! – Bjorn]

  71. Hélder says:

    Very good. Great service you offered us Bjorn!

    BTW, does anyone knows where to buy a wah-wah pedal capable of doing this? I don’t even know which are the correct models…

    Any suggestion, just email me.
    regards

    Hélder
    helder.j.dias@gmail.com

    [Vox and classic Cry Baby. – Bjorn]

  72. Luca RODANO says:

    Thank you a lot! I’ve been trying to achieve that sound for years! Very very helpful, go on publishing such interesting tutorials! luca

  73. MT says:

    About the mod, sorry mates i’m bloody awfull with electronics, i had made it with my friend who works doing custom amps & pedals, so i have no idea of how it works. It shouldnt be so complicated thought, i’ll ask my friend if he can give me the schematics.
    Cheers.

  74. Josh says:

    Nice tutorial. I actually used your original mention of this in the Echoes article a couple years back to learn it, but it’s nice to see a video!

    This effect is good fun – but yes, it can be dangerously loud if you’re not careful! Funny part is, the seagull effect tends to get a round of applause all by itself whenever we play Echoes live. I think audiences don’t expect you to be able to do it – so they love when it happens :D

  75. Alan says:

    like david said “What is rock’n roll without feedback”?

    (LOL! – Bjorn)

  76. Steve Schibuola says:

    Just like to add my thanks, Bjorn, for another instructive tutorial. Been meaning to try the seagull effect since you first described it in the Echoes post, and the video reminded me to do it. Worked like a charm!

    I’m using a Maestro Boomer 2 Wah (the “Shaft” wah) and wasn’t sure it would work since it’s a strange beast – it worked great! The “laughing” effect squelches out after 2-3 laughs – may have to tweak some knobs to improve that – but as an added bonus I get this sort of synth-like undertone, especially noticeable with echo. And a volume pedal keeps the neighbors away (though my kids were scared at first!).

    [Cool! – Bjorn]

  77. Kit Rae says:

    To Tquay,

    You should be able to save any mp3 you find on my site, here on Gilmourish, or just about any website, file after it has loaded from your browser. On a Mac I click the popup menu in the player bar and “save as”. Maybe Bjorn or someone here can help with where you do it on a PC? I have not used Windows in years.

    Regarding getting a Reeves, maybe one day, but I am a Fender man and have been for a long while. My Twin sounds anything but flat. I did get the chance to play a Hiwatt DR103 several years back and I loved it and the unique chime it added to the tone. Ever since finding Gilmourish I have been on the hunt for a decent Hiwatt or Reeves though. You can never have enough amps, or Big Muffs!

    Sorry to hijack your blog as a forum Bjorn :)

    [No worries! Nice to see a discussion :) I actually have a Reeves on the way… Custom 50. Should be here in about 2 weeks. You’ll hear all about it. – Bjorn]

  78. Dave A says:

    Hey Bjorn.Really good tutorial,simplicity personified.Interesting to hear MT say he had a mod done so he can switch In/Out on his wah.Im sure there will be plenty of interest in that mod.Have you got this.Perhaps MT can enlighten us about this.Cheers mate looking forward to the next tutorial as always.Echoes fuzz fills perhaps !! Hehe.Cheers

    [Thanks Dave! No I don’t have a mod on my wah. Still have to switch manually. The mod is pretty easy to do though and you should be able the find the schematic by a quick google search. Cheers! – Bjorn]

  79. TQuay says:

    To Kit Rae,

    Thanks for the backing track but can I download and burn it to a disk to play it elsewhere besides through the crappy computer speakers? You have a very well done site (like this one) with all the sound clips and pictures.

    I noticed you have lots of amazing gear but play through a Fender Twin and have one suggestion: buy a Reeves Custom 50/100 with Power Scaling if you live in the US. If you live in the UK or Europe then buy a simuliar Hiwatt or Sound City. I sold my Fender Twin because it had a boring, flat sound to it and have been since awed by the Reeves’s dynamic, chiming tone. Bjorn is right it is much different than Fenders-especially clean. My Reeves Custom 50 PS is truly 3-Dimensional in it’s church bell like clean tones and unfolds songs like Shine on You Crazy Diamond perfectly.

    On a Reeves the Power Scaling is a must option so you can get great natural tube distortion at lower volumes which can transfer to your pedals. Perfect if you have neighbors or spouses who are sick of loud playing or if you just want great tones without blowing your eardrums out. I wish I could play better and make a clip or video with the Reeves and Power Scaling in use. It is like having three amps and insist on getting the Vintage Purple speaker. No, I don’t work for Reeves, and my sound engineer friend was blown away by the pristine tones too. Anyway, cheers all.

  80. MT says:

    Correct me if i’m wrong but i’m sure i heard this same effect in some Hendrix song, one of the electric ladyland i think.

    Btw, i have done a little mod to my vox wah, i added a switch to swap the In/Out, so far is working great.

    I have a question though Bjorn, in my rig the effect sounds really at a low volume, i had to increase the input level with the colorsound to make it sound loud enough, had this ever happened to you?

    Cheers

    [Never experienced problems with the volume. The effect is extremely loud and must be tamed with a volume pedal. Have you tried disconnecting the pedal board and just running the wah between the guitar and the amp? If the problem disappears then you might have a pedal in the chain that’s interfering with the signal. Are you sure the mod was done right? – Bjorn]

  81. Gabriel says:

    Awesome article and video. Thanks so much for putting this online. I remember years ago a friend and I were trying to figure out how the hell this sound was made. I had some ideas, my friend had some ideas… turns out were were both wrong. Ha!

    I wonder if this will work with a Fulltone Clyde wah. Maybe I’ll that out tonight and piss off my neighbors. ;)

    Thanks again for all the great work you do here.

    Hey… what software are you using to make this blog? Is that something you setup or are you paying for a service? I like the format. It’s very easy to read. Cheers.

    ~g

    [The whole site is based on WordPress, which is a free blog php based setup and very easy to use. I’ve tweaked the css and xhtml codes and made the graphics my self. – Bjorn]

  82. Bruno Ribeiro says:

    JUST AMAZING! I mean you’ve always done a great work but to search (and find!) even that detail… it’s really awesome! Thanks once again!

    [Thanks! – Bjorn]

  83. Agnor says:

    @ Kit Rae.

    Great site! Never saw it before :o ! I’m downloading the backingtrack for echoes right now. The Compilated one. It goes slow, but I goes. Hehe!

    Thanks!

  84. joao says:

    Hey KIT RAE!
    If you get me a MIDI file (of any song from Pink Floyd) with the instruments in separeted channels, I could make them sound more PRO: real drums, etc…

    Thanks! ;-)

  85. Kit Rae says:

    In response to TQuay’s question about a backing track for Echoes. I have a really good one by the Floyd band Pinkover (Tav on the Gilmour forum) on this page, but it is only the first half on the song:
    http://www.kitrae.net/music/backing_tracks.html

    There is a complete one that was posted by Plankspanker on the Gilmour Gear forum as well, in the downloads section called Echoes Complete BT Compilation. It is made up from various sources, including the Pinkover BT, a loop for the seagul section that I made, and a GXT extraction from the Meddle studio recoding with most of the guitar removed. Not a perfect BT, but better than nothing.

  86. João says:

    Amazing!! You’ll get a medal some day!!!

    Thanks to your video, and your very well explained text, I made that sounds for the first time!
    I’ve tried before with some kinds of wha and it doesn’t work… I tried with a cry baby JH – IS (hendrix) and the guitar starts to cry! :-) But, it’s funny… it needed a boost or an overdrive to push it louder! The signal is week…

    I never tried a VOX wha, what are the diferences between both?

    Again… great, great work! Great tutorial!!

    [I think you need to use a wah wah with a hardwire bypass. Doesn’t work on buffered or true bypass models. – Bjorn]

  87. Kit Rae says:

    I remember plugging my wah in backwards after you explained this in your Echoes article a while back. It is very easy to pick up after a few minutes. I experimented with it for hours using a lot of other effects and multiple delays. I came up with some interesting variations…until my wife came into my studio and asked me to please stop making those horrible screeching noises!

    [Yeah well, the sound can be frightening :) – Bjorn]

  88. Jae says:

    Well Bjorn, it’s official, the neighbours hate me ;) ! Thanks for a great tutorial and a fine excuse to crank it up!
    Jae

    [That’s what rock and roll is all about! – Bjorn]

  89. TQuay says:

    Bjorn,

    That looks like a fantastic tutorial that a guitarist could find no where else. I hope to give it try if I can borrow a wah wah from somebody. Speaking of “Echoes” how do you compensate for the string bends at the 24th fret if you don’t have a Lewis or simuliar? Can you prebend the E string at the 22nd fret up two tones?

    Also, does anyone know where one can find a good tab for Echoes? Most grassroots free tab is terrible on the internet but so is the printed version in the fat black “Echoes-Best of Pink Floyd” tab book. It only goes halfway through the introduction guitar part and stops with no explaination. Then the rest is helpful but probably not accurate.

    One last thing. Does anybody know where to get a backing track that goes the whole length of the song? Do NOT buy a backing track from Planet of Rock Music studios!! They are absolutely terrible and don’t even sound close! A total joke. Cheers all,

    [I never play the album version of the solo and David has never done that live. The Pompeii version is a good reference to how high you can go on the Strat. – Bjorn]

  90. Leandro says:

    Really cool article man!!Thanks a lot,

    Cheers!

    [Cheers Leandro! – Bjorn]

  91. James says:

    Hi Bjorn. Very helpful! Is that a new guitar I see on the wall behind you? A Gibson SG?

    Cheers!

    [I’ve had it for years. Mainly use it for studio stuff and it’s featured on most of the songs on the Airbag album. – Bjorn]

  92. Jason Dolinski says:

    Awesome video Bjorn. I watched it and it explains it perfectly. Good work mate! Jay

    [Thanks! – Bjorn]

  93. Alan says:

    Holy crap that sounds good, but how does David achieve that really high pitched nearly double tracked part in echoes???

    [You can control the pitch by carefully adjusting the angle of the wah wah. – Bjorn]

  94. Deck says:

    Hi Bjorn, fantastic tip! Many thanks for explaining this.
    I was thinking, concerning the 1987 tour, what if Tim Renwick played the seagull effect instead of David Gilmour?
    I don’t know what pickups were in Tim’ Strats at that time, maybe he had one with passives pickups. And also, what was his rig? Did he used an old Cornish pedalboard like he had for the 94 tour? In that case, there must be a wahwah included on the board.

    [I think Tim mostly used Lace pickups. I’m not sure what Cornish board he used. In 94 he had the Wall studio board but I think he used the Animals board in 1987, which indeed featured a wah wah. It could also have been prerecorded but the screams seems to change from night to night so I think they were played live. – Bjorn]

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